From: Rexx Magnus Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Necessity of attunement? Date: 23 Jun 2004 11:35:40 GMT Organization: Me?? Organised? Lines: 24 Message-ID: X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de fSiK6h+AKYmfsu6CLwyR1AhcqxFrMFlM95Psj8C45g4Y3Hsxg= User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: 6G^K=?aJV"H\A\F"+8dgL&^\I2\FPezP^{60c5x)5+[v9s{*?oy3LFzjbd7s*20=AO{L]E2wg~d)}{K'LCCX*k&4&w!pdf|b2DSF12l}"OD<{"[f_UW|uJJ.(I:`^rdM~W: Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-153-148-40.range81-153.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1087992267 17145 81.153.148.40 (23 Jun 2004 12:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:04:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!216.196.110.149.MISMATCH!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!194.72.9.35.MISMATCH!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16972 I like your post very much. On a personal belief level, I don't think that attunement is totally necessary. Unless, that irritating little word again(!), you personally believe that it is. I love the attunement process, it is powerful in many ways - and I love giving attunements. And I have been attuned. I would think that Dr Usui (insofar as we can be certain - which I do not think we can be) was in fact attuned through the "vision" or whatever we call it, that he experienced. I don't think that it is necessary at all to charge money: one thing which I would add to this is - people tend (and I know this is a generalisation, however it is one I have found to be rather accurate) to value more that which they pay for, than that which is given away for free. If anyone asked me to give them an attunement at no charge, I would immediately do so - if they were prepared to listen to me for six hours, in a class setting, also free - about my understanding of what I was doing. Love and hugs Hilary "Rexx Magnus" wrote in message news:Xns9511802A08071rexxdeansaund@130.133.1.4... > Knowing close to nothing about Reiki, other than the fact that it is a > type of energy healing that is almost identical to a method that I picked > up myself (ie not from books or others) and have used since I was about 10 > (I'm 27 now) - the following issue arises: > > Is 'attunement' totally necessary? It seems like a way for many > practitioners to get money for nothing. I know that might sound terribly > cynical, but I find it difficult to believe that if it is totally > necessary, how did the first person start doing Reiki? > > Thus, am I right in assuming that it is simply a 'contagious' way of > triggering the inherent ability in everyone, and that a lesser number of > people are already tapped into that and therefore don't need attunement > (or would get lesser benefit from it?) > > The only reason I've started looking at Reiki is that I've started doing > Tai Chi a few months ago, and come to realise that using the body directly > for energy transfer can be much more potent than just visualisation alone > and that I'd never realised that Qi is the same 'universal force' I've > used all along. > -- > http://www.rexx.co.uk > > To email me, visit the site. ###### From: "Steel Dragon" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:10:58 +0200 Organization: Nerim -- xDSL Internet Provider Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: chorand.net1.nerim.net X-Trace: biggoron.nerim.net 1087999806 93905 213.41.139.75 (23 Jun 2004 14:10:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nerim.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:10:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fr.ip.ndsoftware.net!nerim.net!biggoron.nerim.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16973 Hi Rexx, > Knowing close to nothing about Reiki, other than the > fact that it is a type of energy healing that is almost > identical to a method that I picked up myself (ie not > from books or others) and have used since I was > about 10 (I'm 27 now) - the following issue arises: > > Is 'attunement' totally necessary? It seems like a > way for many practitioners to get money for nothing. > I know that might sound terribly cynical, but I find it > difficult to believe that if it is totally necessary, how > did the first person start doing Reiki? > > Thus, am I right in assuming that it is simply a > 'contagious' way of triggering the inherent ability in > everyone, and that a lesser number of people are > already tapped into that and therefore don't need > attunement (or would get lesser benefit from it?) Well, I would not call you cynical ;-) I'll only say that I had some previous experience of energy healing. But I did feel "something" after receiving each attunement (more focus and/or energy "throughput" through my palms or else). So I sincerely believe it was very valuable for me. And I would not oppose these. And, because I happen to live in a place where Reiki is definitely not current, apart from "commercial" approaches that I could not afford, I ended up receiving distant attunements by a bunch of really nice people who happen to be among the AHR regulars. So, I'd say, it's up to you (depending on "mileage" etc.) to determine what you need/want and under which form you see it best. Henri ###### From: Rexx Magnus Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: 23 Jun 2004 14:30:13 GMT Organization: Me?? Organised? Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de C3INSqX/59O4XIMJr4TF3gXm153XVBa2TRkaUBanTbjtoK0jE= User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: 6G^K=?aJV"H\A\F"+8dgL&^\I2\FPezP^{60c5x)5+[v9s{*?oy3LFzjbd7s*20=AO{L]E2wg~d)}{K'LCCX*k&4&w!pdf|b2DSF12l}"OD<{"[f_UW|uJJ.(I:`^rdM~W: Well, I would not call you cynical ;-) > > I'll only say that I had some previous experience of energy healing. But > I did feel "something" after receiving each attunement (more focus > and/or energy "throughput" through my palms or else). So I sincerely > believe it was very valuable for me. And I would not oppose these. > > And, because I happen to live in a place where Reiki is definitely not > current, apart from "commercial" approaches that I could not afford, I > ended up receiving distant attunements by a bunch of really nice people > who happen to be among the AHR regulars. > > So, I'd say, it's up to you (depending on "mileage" etc.) to determine > what you need/want and under which form you see it best. > > > Henri I guess it sounds like it wouldn't hurt to get it done if I were going to start learning it properly, rather than using the sort of freeform approach that I do at the moment. Some days I'm way off, I'd noticed that my ability had dwindled somewhat in the few months before I took up tai chi, so evidently the 'tuning' or focus that one has will often go out of whack if you don't practise (or at least get feedback) periodically. -- http://www.rexx.co.uk To email me, visit the site. ###### From: "Steel Dragon" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:01:05 +0200 Organization: Nerim -- xDSL Internet Provider Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: chorand.net1.nerim.net X-Trace: biggoron.nerim.net 1088006411 97383 213.41.139.75 (23 Jun 2004 16:00:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nerim.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:00:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!feed1.news.be.easynet.net!nerim.net!biggoron.nerim.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16975 Hi, > I guess it sounds like it wouldn't hurt to get it done if I > were going to start learning it properly, rather than using > the sort of freeform approach that I do at the moment. That's what I would advise. It won't prevent you from continuing any such freeform approaches, as basically, one has to listen to one's hands. > Some days I'm way off, I'd noticed that my ability had > dwindled somewhat in the few months before I took up > tai chi, so evidently the 'tuning' or focus that one has will > often go out of whack if you don't practise (or at least > get feedback) periodically. Well, the sensations one has from practicing Reiki (both transmitter and receiver) are consistently inconsistent... BTW, there are other people around here who practice Tai Chi, I'm sure you can share your experiences concerning energy. Henri ###### From: kdc Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Organization: http://www.mega.bz Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.169.57.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s04 1088010279 67.169.57.204 (Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:04:39 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:04:39 GMT Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:04:39 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s04.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16978 On 23 Jun 2004 11:35:40 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: >Knowing close to nothing about Reiki, other than the fact that it is a >type of energy healing that is almost identical to a method that I picked >up myself (ie not from books or others) and have used since I was about 10 >(I'm 27 now) - the following issue arises: It is possible to "self-attune" - which is probably what you did when you were ten. :;smile:: ten! ::smile That's so young in the physical world for such insight. (and I do think that is awesome! :-) --- spamtrap: remove the shadow to send an e-mail. http://www.MEGA.bz ###### From: Rexx Magnus Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: 23 Jun 2004 17:49:26 GMT Organization: Me?? Organised? Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 4lrzm/yfWHhm40nVX+vrZg53HMAXgP+XR3e8Cac4EQ8Czywnk= User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: 6G^K=?aJV"H\A\F"+8dgL&^\I2\FPezP^{60c5x)5+[v9s{*?oy3LFzjbd7s*20=AO{L]E2wg~d)}{K'LCCX*k&4&w!pdf|b2DSF12l}"OD<{"[f_UW|uJJ.(I:`^rdM~W: On 23 Jun 2004 11:35:40 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: > >>Knowing close to nothing about Reiki, other than the fact that it is a >>type of energy healing that is almost identical to a method that I >>picked up myself (ie not from books or others) and have used since I was >>about 10 (I'm 27 now) - the following issue arises: > > It is possible to "self-attune" - which is probably what you did when > you were ten. :;smile:: ten! ::smile That's so young in the physical > world for such insight. (and I do think that is awesome! :-) > I was into crystals big time back then, when I started collecting them whilst on holiday. I got dragged to one of those psychics and mystics faires - where I got introduced to them being used for healing. I'd already had feelings in that direction before going though. As time has gone by, I've relied on tools less and less - the ones I used to use were copper tube with crystals in, but now I've 'graduated' to plain wooden sticks for when I feel the need to use a tool of any kind. One of the funniest things was when I tried to get other kids at school to feel energy, and I'd used the opening and closing hands technique (metal in 5 element qigong) and was very surprised when starting Tai Chi, that this was a standard movement. :) The downside to picking things up yourself, is that you don't know the more refined way of doing some things. Healing had been pretty focused for me, I'm often able to sort of 'see' inside an area that needs healing, and have directed energy there - whereas it seems more natural to others to simply pump energy into a person for them to do with what is necessary. -- http://www.rexx.co.uk To email me, visit the site. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.144.1.130 Message-ID: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> From: Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD telus.net_v5.0.1HS (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 43 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:25:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1088033140 24.71.223.147 (Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:25:40 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:25:40 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16990 Quite interesting comments. Have you by any chance, investigated the Indigo children phenomenon? Rich Rexx Magnus wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:04:39 GMT, kdc scrawled: > > > On 23 Jun 2004 11:35:40 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: > > > >>Knowing close to nothing about Reiki, other than the fact that it is a > >>type of energy healing that is almost identical to a method that I > >>picked up myself (ie not from books or others) and have used since I was > >>about 10 (I'm 27 now) - the following issue arises: > > > > It is possible to "self-attune" - which is probably what you did when > > you were ten. :;smile:: ten! ::smile That's so young in the physical > > world for such insight. (and I do think that is awesome! :-) > > > > I was into crystals big time back then, when I started collecting them > whilst on holiday. I got dragged to one of those psychics and mystics > faires - where I got introduced to them being used for healing. I'd > already had feelings in that direction before going though. As time has > gone by, I've relied on tools less and less - the ones I used to use were > copper tube with crystals in, but now I've 'graduated' to plain wooden > sticks for when I feel the need to use a tool of any kind. > > One of the funniest things was when I tried to get other kids at school to > feel energy, and I'd used the opening and closing hands technique (metal > in 5 element qigong) and was very surprised when starting Tai Chi, that > this was a standard movement. :) > > The downside to picking things up yourself, is that you don't know the > more refined way of doing some things. Healing had been pretty focused for > me, I'm often able to sort of 'see' inside an area that needs healing, and > have directed energy there - whereas it seems more natural to others to > simply pump energy into a person for them to do with what is necessary. > > -- > http://www.rexx.co.uk > > To email me, visit the site. ###### From: Rexx Magnus Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: 24 Jun 2004 08:21:49 GMT Organization: Me?? Organised? Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de fVDgW/9jJgp7mKx3OBWRvgHOTIKTgMROC+yjqfjABEc6sL2ag= User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: 6G^K=?aJV"H\A\F"+8dgL&^\I2\FPezP^{60c5x)5+[v9s{*?oy3LFzjbd7s*20=AO{L]E2wg~d)}{K'LCCX*k&4&w!pdf|b2DSF12l}"OD<{"[f_UW|uJJ.(I:`^rdM~W: Quite interesting comments. Have you by any chance, investigated the > Indigo children phenomenon? > Rich > Never heard of it, (them?) so no. :-S -- http://www.rexx.co.uk To email me, visit the site. ###### From: "Seann" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Lines: 37 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: <05zCc.482429$Ar.141208@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:40:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.48.145.88 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1088077244 65.48.145.88 (Thu, 24 Jun 2004 07:40:44 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 07:40:44 EDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!c01.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!cyclone01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!12dc6cf53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17002 The Attunements are not necessary. They are useful however in that they are a ceremony which helps the person open up to feeling the energy at a more subconscious level. They symbols were introduced later by Usui as teaching tools so one can safely safe people were practicing Reiki without sumbols or attunements. I have seen people use Reiki before receiving attunements. One only needs practice and faith to use it. The rest is academic. "Rexx Magnus" wrote in message news:Xns9511802A08071rexxdeansaund@130.133.1.4... > Knowing close to nothing about Reiki, other than the fact that it is a > type of energy healing that is almost identical to a method that I picked > up myself (ie not from books or others) and have used since I was about 10 > (I'm 27 now) - the following issue arises: > > Is 'attunement' totally necessary? It seems like a way for many > practitioners to get money for nothing. I know that might sound terribly > cynical, but I find it difficult to believe that if it is totally > necessary, how did the first person start doing Reiki? > > Thus, am I right in assuming that it is simply a 'contagious' way of > triggering the inherent ability in everyone, and that a lesser number of > people are already tapped into that and therefore don't need attunement > (or would get lesser benefit from it?) > > The only reason I've started looking at Reiki is that I've started doing > Tai Chi a few months ago, and come to realise that using the body directly > for energy transfer can be much more potent than just visualisation alone > and that I'd never realised that Qi is the same 'universal force' I've > used all along. > -- > http://www.rexx.co.uk > > To email me, visit the site. ###### From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Organization: http://www.ascesis.net Reply-To: steven@ascesis.net Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.116.151.230 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr25.news.prodigy.com 1088095962 ST000 67.116.151.230 (Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:52:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:52:42 EDT X-UserInfo1: SCSGW^KGVJWUSRD[N[O@_WH@YR_B@EXLLBWLOOAFBATBTSUBYFWEAE[YJLYPIWKHTFCMZKVMB^[Z^DOBRVVMOSPFHNSYXVDIE@X\BUC@GTSX@DL^GKFFHQCCE\G[JJBMYDYIJCZM@AY]GNGPJD]YNNW\GSX^GSCKHA[]@CCB\[@LATPD\L@J\\PF]VR[QPJN Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:52:42 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!199.218.7.141!news.glorb.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr25.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17009 I like to differentiate "R"eiki with a capital "R," from "r"eiki with a small letter "r." "r"eiki would be what you have a natural inclination or ability to transmit to others - "r"eiki being Universal Life Force Energy (or some other translation of the same concept). It could become "R"eiki if you went through the attunement process and worked with the basic concepts introduced by Usui & Takata. For some, the Attunement process is an awakening experience that allows him or her to become consciously aware of Universal Life Force, and to others it's simply an initiation into a group. On 23 Jun 2004 14:30:13 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: >On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:10:58 GMT, Steel Dragon scrawled: > >> Well, I would not call you cynical ;-) >> >> I'll only say that I had some previous experience of energy healing. But >> I did feel "something" after receiving each attunement (more focus >> and/or energy "throughput" through my palms or else). So I sincerely >> believe it was very valuable for me. And I would not oppose these. >> >> And, because I happen to live in a place where Reiki is definitely not >> current, apart from "commercial" approaches that I could not afford, I >> ended up receiving distant attunements by a bunch of really nice people >> who happen to be among the AHR regulars. >> >> So, I'd say, it's up to you (depending on "mileage" etc.) to determine >> what you need/want and under which form you see it best. >> >> >> Henri > >I guess it sounds like it wouldn't hurt to get it done if I were going to >start learning it properly, rather than using the sort of freeform >approach that I do at the moment. > >Some days I'm way off, I'd noticed that my ability had dwindled somewhat >in the few months before I took up tai chi, so evidently the 'tuning' or >focus that one has will often go out of whack if you don't practise (or at >least get feedback) periodically. Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA ###### Message-ID: <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> From: Alex Barna Organization: WorldWide_Spam_killers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 38 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:31:43 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.30.225.94 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.rdc-kc.rr.com 1088101836 65.30.225.94 (Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:30:36 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:30:36 CDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!cyclone.socal.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!twister.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17013 Hi Rich & Rexx, Rich wrote: > > Quite interesting comments. Have you by any chance, investigated > the Indigo children phenomenon? > Rich I hadn't heard of the Indigo children before you mentioned it, but find it very interesting. I don't care for the use of term 'indigo' because of the connection to the color of a mind expanding drug used by natives in South America. I wish there would have been information like this around 60 years ago when I was being taught to hide my abilities. Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect to Ki/Chi/UE as children. GramPaHugs, Alex, :) -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. No endorsement is implied or intended. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * AOL Click * AOL Click **************************************************** ###### From: Alex Barna Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:56:20 -0500 Organization: WorldWide_Spam_killers Lines: 62 Message-ID: <40DB31E4.B86C1C90@mn.rr.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de d5QfZkqluZrxDP+fRn2w2gRTOUKzszjztzyAx4kctm7ZSSAxw= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17020 Hi Rexx, Rexx Magnus wrote: > > Knowing close to nothing about Reiki, other than the fact that it is a > type of energy healing that is almost identical to a method that I picked > up myself (ie not from books or others) and have used since I was about > 10 (I'm 27 now) - the following issue arises: > > Is 'attunement' totally necessary? In a word, No. I was born able to 'see' what I have learned is UE. I was attuned to Reiki last January & I have experienced a finer & stronger control since being attuned. > It seems like a way for many > practitioners to get money for nothing. I know that might sound terribly > cynical, but I find it difficult to believe that if it is totally > necessary, how did the first person start doing Reiki? If a person doesn't have access to the internet & all the free information about Reiki & the practice of Reiki available here paying a teacher for that information may be the only way to get it. We do have to pay someone (our ISP) for the free information. > Thus, am I right in assuming that it is simply a 'contagious' way of > triggering the inherent ability in everyone, and that a lesser number of > people are already tapped into that and therefore don't need attunement > (or would get lesser benefit from it?) Actually, IME, everyone is connected to UE even though few are aware of the connection. The purpose of a Reiki attunement is to show a person how to access UE as used in the practice of Reiki. > The only reason I've started looking at Reiki is that I've started doing > Tai Chi a few months ago, and come to realise that using the body > directly for energy transfer can be much more potent than just > visualisation alone and that I'd never realised that Qi is the same > 'universal force' I've used all along. As I've said learning about Reiki & what it means to practice Reiki may help you learn to fine tune your ability. GramPaHugs, Alex, > -- > http://www.rexx.co.uk > > To email me, visit the site. -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * AOL Click * AOL Click **************************************************** ###### From: Rexx Magnus Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: 25 Jun 2004 08:22:01 GMT Organization: Me?? Organised? Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Y877IUCOeJjwb3pvdochywZ+R99/ZUje4GYE3TLgnyWKpbl7M= User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: 6G^K=?aJV"H\A\F"+8dgL&^\I2\FPezP^{60c5x)5+[v9s{*?oy3LFzjbd7s*20=AO{L]E2wg~d)}{K'LCCX*k&4&w!pdf|b2DSF12l}"OD<{"[f_UW|uJJ.(I:`^rdM~W: Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ > you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect > to Ki/Chi/UE as children. I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what I read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some of it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in horoscopes (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could say "that's me!" to it). -- http://www.rexx.co.uk To email me, visit the site. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.144.1.130 Message-ID: <40DC232A.F33AD897@shaw.ca> From: Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD telus.net_v5.0.1HS (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:07:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1088168835 24.71.223.147 (Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:07:15 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:07:15 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17043 In reading some literature on meditative healing in the Buddhist tradition, I see where the author says he is described as New Age in his thinking. Say what? Buddhism is New Age? In the literature I have read about the Indigo children...those who see colors in the aura say they have indigo auras....many of these children are psychologically tested to determine whether they are 'beyond normal'. Not a lot of fluff there, it seems. Anyway, like anything else, some folks have more active minds than others, regarding these things. Cheers Rich Rexx Magnus wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:43 GMT, Alex Barna scrawled: > > > Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ > > you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect > > to Ki/Chi/UE as children. > > I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what I > read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some of > it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in > horoscopes (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into > thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could > say "that's me!" to it). > > -- > http://www.rexx.co.uk > > To email me, visit the site. ###### From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Organization: http://www.ascesis.net Reply-To: steven@ascesis.net Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.220.153.4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr29.news.prodigy.com 1088179704 ST000 64.220.153.4 (Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:08:24 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:08:24 EDT X-UserInfo1: FKPGW^KGVJWUSRD[N[O@_WH@YR_B@EXLLBWLOOAFEQR@ETUCCNSKQFCY@TXDX_WHSVB]ZEJLSNY\^J[CUVSA_QLFC^RQHUPH[P[NRWCCMLSNPOD_ESALHUK@TDFUZHBLJ\XGKL^NXA\EVHSP[D_C^B_^JCX^W]CHBAX]POG@SSAZQ\LE[DCNMUPG_VSC@VJM Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:08:24 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!207.115.63.142!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr29.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17046 "This dharma, (enlightened life) is abundantly inherent in each individual; nevertheless, without practice it will not be revealed, and without enlightenment it will not be realized." A Japanese boy said that some centuries ago and it seems relevant to your observation. In our case, the "dharma" would be known as Reiki. :-) On 23 Jun 2004 14:30:13 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: (snip) >Some days I'm way off, I'd noticed that my ability had dwindled somewhat >in the few months before I took up tai chi, so evidently the 'tuning' or >focus that one has will often go out of whack if you don't practise (or at >least get feedback) periodically. Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA ###### From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Organization: http://www.ascesis.net Reply-To: steven@ascesis.net Message-ID: References: <40DB31E4.B86C1C90@mn.rr.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.220.153.4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr29.news.prodigy.com 1088179704 ST000 64.220.153.4 (Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:08:24 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:08:24 EDT X-UserInfo1: FKPGW^KGVJWUSRD[N[O@_WH@YR_B@EXLLBWLOOAFEQR@ETUCCNSKQFCY@TXDX_WHSVB]ZEJLSNY\^J[CUVSA_QLFC^RQHUPH[P[NRWCCMLSNPOD_ESALHUK@TDFUZHBLJ\XGKL^NXA\EVHSP[D_C^B_^JCX^W]CHBAX]POG@SSAZQ\LE[DCNMUPG_VSC@VJM Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:08:24 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.tu-darmstadt.de!frankfurt1!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr29.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17047 Golf comes to mind while reading Alex's post. A person can own golf clubs, golf shirts, shorts, shoes, and of course golf balls. A person could just wear the shoes to aerate the lawn; the shirt/shorts to wear while purchasing groceries, the balls as toys, and use the clubs as decorative fireplace pokers or just to let them collect dust in the garage. The person may have all of the equipment to "be" a Golfer; the person may regularily use all of the golfing equipment; but owning the equipment alone would not make that person a Golfer. However, if that person made his or her way to a putting green, and learned to wear the clothing as a golfer, learned to use the club to hit the ball into a tiny hole in the ground some meters away THEN that person would be a Golfer! Even if that tiny ball never gets into the hole, the person is still a golfer because they practice specific techniques unique to golf that make it golf. I believe we all were born with the proper tools of the trade to practice Reiki. Just having the tools does not imply they will only be used for one task alone. Just having the tools doesn't mean that we know they are there to be used! Another person pointing to the old "golf clubs" in the garage just might result in an "Oh yeah, I forgot all about those things" and awaken a truly marvelous and beautiful awareness long since forgotten. On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:56:20 -0500, Alex Barna wrote: (snip) >Actually, IME, everyone is connected to UE even though few are aware of the >connection. The purpose of a Reiki attunement is to show a person how to access >UE as used in the practice of Reiki. >GramPaHugs, >Alex, Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA ###### From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Organization: http://www.ascesis.net Reply-To: steven@ascesis.net Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.220.153.4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr29.news.prodigy.com 1088179704 ST000 64.220.153.4 (Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:08:24 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:08:24 EDT X-UserInfo1: FKPGW^KGVJWUSRD[N[O@_WH@YR_B@EXLLBWLOOAFEQR@ETUCCNSKQFCY@TXDX_WHSVB]ZEJLSNY\^J[CUVSA_QLFC^RQHUPH[P[NRWCCMLSNPOD_ESALHUK@TDFUZHBLJ\XGKL^NXA\EVHSP[D_C^B_^JCX^W]CHBAX]POG@SSAZQ\LE[DCNMUPG_VSC@VJM Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:08:24 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr29.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17048 "This dharma, (enlightened life) is abundantly inherent in each individual; nevertheless, without practice it will not be revealed, and without enlightenment it will not be realized." A Japanese boy said that some centuries ago and it seems relevant to your post. The "dharma" in our case would be known as Reiki. :-) On 23 Jun 2004 14:30:13 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: (snip) >Some days I'm way off, I'd noticed that my ability had dwindled somewhat >in the few months before I took up tai chi, so evidently the 'tuning' or >focus that one has will often go out of whack if you don't practise (or at >least get feedback) periodically. Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA ###### From: "Hilary Starke" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-153-148-40.range81-153.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1088181379 22051 81.153.148.40 (25 Jun 2004 16:36:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:36:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!194.72.9.35.MISMATCH!news-peer1!news-peer0-test!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17052 Great post - much appreciated. Thank you Steven. Love and hugs Hilary "Steven Buck, CMT" wrote in message news:re2nd05urps5e4o8lldqookbrn6nrb0obc@4ax.com... > "This dharma, (enlightened life) is abundantly inherent in each > individual; nevertheless, without practice it will not be revealed, > and without enlightenment it will not be realized." > > A Japanese boy said that some centuries ago and it seems relevant to > your post. The "dharma" in our case would be known as Reiki. > > :-) > > On 23 Jun 2004 14:30:13 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: > > (snip) > > >Some days I'm way off, I'd noticed that my ability had dwindled somewhat > >in the few months before I took up tai chi, so evidently the 'tuning' or > >focus that one has will often go out of whack if you don't practise (or at > >least get feedback) periodically. > > Steven Buck, CMT > San Francisco, CA ###### From: "Hilary Starke" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 71 Message-ID: References: <40DB31E4.B86C1C90@mn.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-153-148-40.range81-153.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1088181709 22683 81.153.148.40 (25 Jun 2004 16:41:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:41:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed.esat.net!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!194.72.9.35.MISMATCH!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17054 I like this very much - skiing would be my personal analogy of choice(!) Speed merchant again! And forgive me if I am pointing out the obvious - you got me interested so please allow this(!) - it seems to moi that there is a tiny piece missing from this equation - the natural "athlete". There is a very old analogy, and one way I have heard it quoted is in the detective novels of Agatha Christie - one of her fictional detectives, Hercule Poirot, meanders gently "have you ever been handed a ball and told 'quick - hit that tree' , thrown the ball - and hit it And when you try to do it again, you think about it a bit - not too far left, not too far right, and somehow the magic isn't there". This is a paraphrase, not a quote, but the sense to me is rendered. I believe there are more instinctive winners than anything else ...... every single being who wants to be is one by desire. Love and hugs Hils "Steven Buck, CMT" wrote in message news:gl2nd0p0vnkk3u1c8c9p0n7en2ia3hrdqd@4ax.com... > Golf comes to mind while reading Alex's post. > > A person can own golf clubs, golf shirts, shorts, shoes, and of course > golf balls. A person could just wear the shoes to aerate the lawn; > the shirt/shorts to wear while purchasing groceries, the balls as > toys, and use the clubs as decorative fireplace pokers or just to let > them collect dust in the garage. > > The person may have all of the equipment to "be" a Golfer; the person > may regularily use all of the golfing equipment; but owning the > equipment alone would not make that person a Golfer. > > However, if that person made his or her way to a putting green, and > learned to wear the clothing as a golfer, learned to use the club to > hit the ball into a tiny hole in the ground some meters away THEN that > person would be a Golfer! > > Even if that tiny ball never gets into the hole, the person is still a > golfer because they practice specific techniques unique to golf that > make it golf. > > I believe we all were born with the proper tools of the trade to > practice Reiki. Just having the tools does not imply they will only > be used for one task alone. Just having the tools doesn't mean that > we know they are there to be used! Another person pointing to the old > "golf clubs" in the garage just might result in an "Oh yeah, I forgot > all about those things" and awaken a truly marvelous and beautiful > awareness long since forgotten. > > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:56:20 -0500, Alex Barna > wrote: > > (snip) > >Actually, IME, everyone is connected to UE even though few are aware of the > >connection. The purpose of a Reiki attunement is to show a person how to access > >UE as used in the practice of Reiki. > >GramPaHugs, > >Alex, > > > Steven Buck, CMT > San Francisco, CA ###### From: Rexx Magnus Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: 25 Jun 2004 17:52:50 GMT Organization: Me?? Organised? Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <40DB31E4.B86C1C90@mn.rr.com> X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de xQy311kwcG/XrOPgY6/jnwCP6Y/tXLLojVBF2cjCC40dcDhDE= User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: 6G^K=?aJV"H\A\F"+8dgL&^\I2\FPezP^{60c5x)5+[v9s{*?oy3LFzjbd7s*20=AO{L]E2wg~d)}{K'LCCX*k&4&w!pdf|b2DSF12l}"OD<{"[f_UW|uJJ.(I:`^rdM~W: I believe there are more instinctive winners than anything else ...... > every single being who wants to be is one by desire. > A similar concept exists in Daoism (and may be one of the guiding principles) [paraphrased] "to do without doing, and succeed without trying." This is why, to some, it sounds like talk of the force in starwars. :) -- http://www.rexx.co.uk To email me, visit the site. ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:04:13 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 112 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1088197452 22881 212.59.171.223 (25 Jun 2004 21:04:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17060 Steel Dragon wrote: > Hi Rexx, > >>Knowing close to nothing about Reiki, other than the >>fact that it is a type of energy healing that is almost >>identical to a method that I picked up myself (ie not >>from books or others) and have used since I was >>about 10 (I'm 27 now) - the following issue arises: >> >>Is 'attunement' totally necessary? It seems like a >>way for many practitioners to get money for nothing. >>I know that might sound terribly cynical, but I find it >>difficult to believe that if it is totally necessary, how >>did the first person start doing Reiki? >> >>Thus, am I right in assuming that it is simply a >>'contagious' way of triggering the inherent ability in >>everyone, and that a lesser number of people are >>already tapped into that and therefore don't need >>attunement (or would get lesser benefit from it?) > Well, I would not call you cynical ;-) > I'll only say that I had some previous experience of energy > healing. But I > did feel "something" after receiving each attunement (more focus and/or > energy "throughput" through my palms or else). So I sincerely believe it was > very valuable for me. And I would not oppose these. Hi Henry let's split the hair into two I thik we all have the ability to heal humanity always had.. in popular lore is known as *the secret* you know what it is in french too the Attunement in my opinion gives to the attuned person the awareness of this latent gift , in some opens meridians or Nadis or whatever carry the energy I started doing tai chi and had the buzzing and the heating hands and all the strage phenomenas related to Reiki and I did not even thinbk or know whyt reiki was .. and I was not doing Reiki I was doing Falun Gong , just myself alone at home and follwing thedescriptions of exercises you can download from the falungong site Why Falung gong ? Because tabloids made a mess about the persecution of falung gong adepts so I wonted to get informed and found their routines .. I never followed a routines or a grop exercise as I am scared with sects and whatever madness religion-linked so I went to snoop in the Falun Gong web site and as curiousas I am and as I was told few years ago that tai chi might be very good for me I tried it but tai chi is far too complicate and my patience is every poor) but falung gong routines looked fine and easy to follow So I tried Falung gong . I am already doing yoga since I was 24 so no *prejudices* about .. At my great amazement i realized this strong heat in my hands so strong that I had the impesssion to have plounged my hands in warm water and was a day long lasting sensation and it was during cold november and december season here I started reading more about falung gong and I decided was just gibberish I could not get over the firt page of their bible.. so I went in a tai chi site and tai chi Ng and theer again I found masters samurais ,playing their enlghtned role of holy wise men, teaching to us por trolls and i said myself another bounch of weirdo.. and moved over to Reiki .. I followed very shortly different reiki groups but found here in AHReiki , the most interesting one, even if I often think a shrink might make good money helping in here .. :-) Reiki has something that probably fits mostly something I feel.. so let it be.. I am not a fanatic about Reiki I practice it , it gives me something and that's fine.. all the rest is *ceremonial for the gallery* and is just a playful game.. that helps to focus maybe this ranting might be helpful and enlightening for some spirits > And, because I happen to live in a place where Reiki is definitely not > current, apart from "commercial" approaches that I could not afford, I ended > up receiving distant attunements by a bunch of really nice people who happen > to be among the AHR regulars. > So, I'd say, it's up to you (depending on "mileage" etc.) to > determine what > you need/want and under which form you see it best. > Henri > -- Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefoucauld) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: "Steel Dragon" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 01:32:25 +0200 Organization: Nerim -- xDSL Internet Provider Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: chorand.net1.nerim.net X-Trace: biggoron.nerim.net 1088206273 96300 213.41.139.75 (25 Jun 2004 23:31:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nerim.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:31:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fr.ip.ndsoftware.net!nerim.net!biggoron.nerim.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17073 Hi Theo, > > (............) You don't seem to split hairs to me :-) I have nearly no experience of tai chi. But I did one exercise once and felt warm hands, too. I quite agree with your description of Falun Gong. BTW, I've also met a herd of trolls on alt.philosophy.taoism ;-) And yes, alt.healing.reiki is definitely a nice groove ! Henri ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 07:28:09 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1088227686 6173 212.59.132.134 (26 Jun 2004 05:28:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17078 Steel Dragon wrote: > Hi Theo, > >>>(............) > You don't seem to split hairs to me :-) > I have nearly no experience of tai chi. But I did one exercise once > and felt > warm hands, too. > I quite agree with your description of Falun Gong. > BTW, I've also met a herd of trolls on alt.philosophy.taoism ;-) > And yes, alt.healing.reiki is definitely a nice groove ! > Henri It is always comforting we can share the same point of view :-) Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefoucauld) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: kdc Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Organization: http://www.mega.bz Message-ID: References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.169.57.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s04 1088525321 67.169.57.204 (Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:08:41 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:08:41 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:08:41 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s04.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17186 On 25 Jun 2004 08:22:01 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: >> Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ >> you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect >> to Ki/Chi/UE as children. > >I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what I >read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some of >it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in >horoscopes I think you may have it on a wide brush there, basically. It's funny when people refer to New Age "Fluff", for it's always seemed to me that what is regarded as "new age" is really ages old, but with a new name. Reiki fits the bill perfectly there, and is seen by many as just that (generally by those that do not know anything about alternative medicine to begin with - so it's up to us to educate them). I am reminded of a line from a Kryon channeling where it was spoken of this time as the Now Age > (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into >thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could >say "that's me!" to it). I believe every one is special. Persons are their own divinity, that is, there is a divine nature to the spirit within each person. --- spamtrap: remove the shadow to send an e-mail. http://www.MEGA.bz ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.144.1.130 Message-ID: <40E19A36.BFD2B69@shaw.ca> From: Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD telus.net_v5.0.1HS (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 50 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:36:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1088527002 24.71.223.147 (Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:36:42 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:36:42 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17187 Some people refer to the Indigo children as 'old souls', since they seem to have wisdom that could not have come from their short experience here, or they accumulated it like a powerful vacuum cleaner! Their numbers are increasing for some reason. 'The Indigo Children - The new kids have arrived' by Carroll and Tober is an interesting read. What I found for myself in reading about the indigos is that I have a much different appreciation for the 'different' kids I see around. We are so inclined to sedate certain groups of children in the name of 'control' or 'sameness' that we may truly be missing their gifts. And there seems to be whole lot more to the indigos that is worthy of investigation. Whoa! Are we getting back to the old critical mass discussion? Cheers Rich kdc wrote: > > On 25 Jun 2004 08:22:01 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: > > >> Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ > >> you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect > >> to Ki/Chi/UE as children. > > > >I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what I > >read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some of > >it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in > >horoscopes > > I think you may have it on a wide brush there, basically. It's funny > when people refer to New Age "Fluff", for it's always seemed to me > that what is regarded as "new age" is really ages old, but with a new > name. Reiki fits the bill perfectly there, and is seen by many as > just that (generally by those that do not know anything about > alternative medicine to begin with - so it's up to us to educate > them). > > I am reminded of a line from a Kryon channeling where it was spoken of > this time as the Now Age > > > (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into > >thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could > >say "that's me!" to it). > > I believe every one is special. Persons are their own divinity, that > is, there is a divine nature to the spirit within each person. > > --- > spamtrap: remove the shadow to send an e-mail. > > http://www.MEGA.bz ###### From: "Hilary Starke" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-156-25-41.range81-156.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1088528588 25826 81.156.25.41 (29 Jun 2004 17:03:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:03:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!194.72.9.35.MISMATCH!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17188 Great post - many thanks. Love and hugs Hils "kdc" wrote in message news:ap43e05i9gi08njhk5dh1qrgv9r4cpgfli@4ax.com... > On 25 Jun 2004 08:22:01 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: > > >> Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ > >> you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect > >> to Ki/Chi/UE as children. > > > >I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what I > >read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some of > >it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in > >horoscopes > > I think you may have it on a wide brush there, basically. It's funny > when people refer to New Age "Fluff", for it's always seemed to me > that what is regarded as "new age" is really ages old, but with a new > name. Reiki fits the bill perfectly there, and is seen by many as > just that (generally by those that do not know anything about > alternative medicine to begin with - so it's up to us to educate > them). > > I am reminded of a line from a Kryon channeling where it was spoken of > this time as the Now Age > > > (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into > >thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could > >say "that's me!" to it). > > I believe every one is special. Persons are their own divinity, that > is, there is a divine nature to the spirit within each person. > > > --- > spamtrap: remove the shadow to send an e-mail. > > http://www.MEGA.bz ###### From: "Hilary Starke" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> <40E19A36.BFD2B69@shaw.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-156-25-41.range81-156.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1088528654 25949 81.156.25.41 (29 Jun 2004 17:04:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:04:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!194.72.9.35.MISMATCH!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17189 I do hope so! Only kidding ...... what do you think about the Crystal Children who are to come? Being "enceinte" myself, I have a personal interest Love and hugs Hils "Rich" wrote in message news:40E19A36.BFD2B69@shaw.ca... > Some people refer to the Indigo children as 'old souls', since they seem > to have wisdom that could not have come from their short experience > here, or they accumulated it like a powerful vacuum cleaner! Their > numbers are increasing for some reason. 'The Indigo Children - The new > kids have arrived' by Carroll and Tober is an interesting read. > What I found for myself in reading about the indigos is that I have a > much different appreciation for the 'different' kids I see around. We > are so inclined to sedate certain groups of children in the name of > 'control' or 'sameness' that we may truly be missing their gifts. And > there seems to be whole lot more to the indigos that is worthy of > investigation. Whoa! Are we getting back to the old critical mass > discussion? > Cheers > Rich > > kdc wrote: > > > > On 25 Jun 2004 08:22:01 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: > > > > >> Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ > > >> you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect > > >> to Ki/Chi/UE as children. > > > > > >I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what I > > >read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some of > > >it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in > > >horoscopes > > > > I think you may have it on a wide brush there, basically. It's funny > > when people refer to New Age "Fluff", for it's always seemed to me > > that what is regarded as "new age" is really ages old, but with a new > > name. Reiki fits the bill perfectly there, and is seen by many as > > just that (generally by those that do not know anything about > > alternative medicine to begin with - so it's up to us to educate > > them). > > > > I am reminded of a line from a Kryon channeling where it was spoken of > > this time as the Now Age > > > > > (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into > > >thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could > > >say "that's me!" to it). > > > > I believe every one is special. Persons are their own divinity, that > > is, there is a divine nature to the spirit within each person. > > > > --- > > spamtrap: remove the shadow to send an e-mail. > > > > http://www.MEGA.bz ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.144.1.130 Message-ID: <40E1A652.151CFF6F@shaw.ca> From: Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD telus.net_v5.0.1HS (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> <40E19A36.BFD2B69@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 72 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:28:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1088530101 24.71.223.147 (Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:28:21 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:28:21 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.ip-plus.net!newsfeed.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.iesy.de!troll.iesy.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!fr.ip.ndsoftware.net!newshosting.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!216.196.98.140.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17190 Hi Hils, I don't know about who will come, only what is observable in this case, right now. Sorry. Have a nice weekend. Am hitting the highway. Rich Hilary Starke wrote: > > I do hope so! Only kidding ...... what do you think about the Crystal > Children who are to come? > > Being "enceinte" myself, I have a personal interest > > Love and hugs > > Hils > > "Rich" wrote in message news:40E19A36.BFD2B69@shaw.ca... > > Some people refer to the Indigo children as 'old souls', since they seem > > to have wisdom that could not have come from their short experience > > here, or they accumulated it like a powerful vacuum cleaner! Their > > numbers are increasing for some reason. 'The Indigo Children - The new > > kids have arrived' by Carroll and Tober is an interesting read. > > What I found for myself in reading about the indigos is that I have a > > much different appreciation for the 'different' kids I see around. We > > are so inclined to sedate certain groups of children in the name of > > 'control' or 'sameness' that we may truly be missing their gifts. And > > there seems to be whole lot more to the indigos that is worthy of > > investigation. Whoa! Are we getting back to the old critical mass > > discussion? > > Cheers > > Rich > > > > kdc wrote: > > > > > > On 25 Jun 2004 08:22:01 GMT, Rexx Magnus wrote: > > > > > > >> Rexx, if you read some of the information at > http://www.indigochild.com/ > > > >> you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could > connect > > > >> to Ki/Chi/UE as children. > > > > > > > >I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what > I > > > >read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some > of > > > >it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in > > > >horoscopes > > > > > > I think you may have it on a wide brush there, basically. It's funny > > > when people refer to New Age "Fluff", for it's always seemed to me > > > that what is regarded as "new age" is really ages old, but with a new > > > name. Reiki fits the bill perfectly there, and is seen by many as > > > just that (generally by those that do not know anything about > > > alternative medicine to begin with - so it's up to us to educate > > > them). > > > > > > I am reminded of a line from a Kryon channeling where it was spoken of > > > this time as the Now Age > > > > > > > (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into > > > >thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could > > > >say "that's me!" to it). > > > > > > I believe every one is special. Persons are their own divinity, that > > > is, there is a divine nature to the spirit within each person. > > > > > > --- > > > spamtrap: remove the shadow to send an e-mail. > > > > > > http://www.MEGA.bz ###### From: Kevin Overhulser Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 05:31:31 -0600 Organization: NMIX Reader Lines: 27 Message-ID: <20040701053131.2aad6459.arthealer@newmexico.com> References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: albcmcs1-du186.cybermesa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: reader2.nmix.net 1088681608 26035 65.19.43.186 (1 Jul 2004 11:33:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@nmix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:33:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.8.8 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!news.octanews.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!feeder.nmix.net!reader2.nmix.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17249 On 25 Jun 2004 08:22:01 GMT Rexx Magnus wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:43 GMT, Alex Barna scrawled: > > > Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ > > you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect > > to Ki/Chi/UE as children. > > I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what I > read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some of > it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in > horoscopes (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into > thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could > say "that's me!" to it). Hey Rexx, There must be something of benifit in the horoscope that people latch on to, no? Is it of no value to (regaurdless of the source) believe in benificial things? I say. . . whatever works:} Love is. . . > -- > http://www.rexx.co.uk > > To email me, visit the site. ###### From: "Hilary Starke" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca><40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> <20040701053131.2aad6459.arthealer@newmexico.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-156-25-41.range81-156.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1088682077 12875 81.156.25.41 (1 Jul 2004 11:41:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:41:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!news2.euro.net!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!194.72.9.35.MISMATCH!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17250 All around you, everywhere you go ....... Sorry all - just been treating myself again!!! Love and hugs Hils "Kevin Overhulser" wrote in message news:20040701053131.2aad6459.arthealer@newmexico.com... > On 25 Jun 2004 08:22:01 GMT > Rexx Magnus wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:31:43 GMT, Alex Barna scrawled: > > > > > Rexx, if you read some of the information at http://www.indigochild.com/ > > > you will see that you & I aren't the only ones to find we could connect > > > to Ki/Chi/UE as children. > > > > I found some info on it, though admittedly I thought that a lot of what I > > read seemed like 'new age fluff' and began to put me right off. Some of > > it struck a chord, whilst a lot of the other just seems like things in > > horoscopes (in other words, it seems designed to flatter everyone into > > thinking they're something ultra special - almost everyone I know could > > say "that's me!" to it). > > Hey Rexx, > There must be something of benifit in the horoscope that people latch on to, no? > Is it of no value to (regaurdless of the source) believe in benificial things? > I say. . . whatever works:} > Love is. . . > > > > -- > > http://www.rexx.co.uk > > > > To email me, visit the site. ###### From: kdc Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Organization: http://www.mega.bz Message-ID: <6pcce01hejjnabbf61ogiqvfs94hsfk8ia@4ax.com> References: <40DA111F.B83634F1@shaw.ca> <40DB1E0F.7FEA300E@mn.rr.com> <40E19A36.BFD2B69@shaw.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.169.57.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s04 1088828000 67.169.57.204 (Sat, 03 Jul 2004 04:13:20 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 04:13:20 GMT Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 04:13:20 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!news.glorb.com!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s04.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17295 On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:04:14 +0000 (UTC), "Hilary Starke" wrote: >I do hope so! Only kidding ...... what do you think about the Crystal >Children who are to come? > >Being "enceinte" myself, I have a personal interest > >Love and hugs > >Hils I would like to hear more about the Crystal Children. Is that a prophetic vision? --- to send an email, remove the shadow from my address ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Necessity of attunement? Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 21:29 +0100 (BST) Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 6sLYUE8WvooJrPWneOFdWwCwKzViRhJKu7IDE2rFpcF1JP8o0= X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:17324 (kdc) wrote: > Reiki fits the bill perfectly there, and is seen by many as > just that (generally by those that do not know anything about > alternative medicine to begin with - so it's up to us to educate > them). I've never been "new age", "old age" or whatever .. but Reiki fits the bill .. ;) Stuart 324 to go