From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:46 +0100 (BST) Lines: 17 Message-ID: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Z0O4MazbDrU40N4DWBFElQ0uP3hvTjbXEr2Z4bczU8A7jX7J8= X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16129 Was out shopping at a busy mall (yeah, yeah) on Saturday ... Walking into one shop, a lady was walking out at the same time .. she appeared to be a child of the 60s (which I am) and unafraid to go grey ...[I'm going grey, but being blond, you can't see it ] She fixed my eye (for it was hurting) and nodded .... Being in a zombie mood., it took me a few seconds .. I look round to ask a question, and she's gone .. So we'll never know .. Stuart ###### From: suzee Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:39:26 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 19 Message-ID: <40B2A3CE.42B1ADED@imbris.com> References: Reply-To: qiuser@yahoo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pm842-44.dialip.mich.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AUTHid: fordkenn X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!msunews!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16133 Stuart Vernon wrote: > > Was out shopping at a busy mall (yeah, yeah) on Saturday ... > > Walking into one shop, a lady was walking out at the same > time .. she appeared to be a child of the 60s (which I am) > and unafraid to go grey ...[I'm going grey, but being blond, > you can't see it ] > > She fixed my eye (for it was hurting) and nodded .... > > Being in a zombie mood., it took me a few seconds .. I look > round to ask a question, and she's gone .. > > So we'll never know .. You have malls in England?! sue ###### From: montane Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 18:46:38 -0700 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 52 Message-ID: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-108.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16134 On Mon, 24 May 2004 23:46 +0100 (BST), stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) wrote: An interesting story, Stuart. But as to the question in your subject line, I have sometimes had brief encounters (often with words unspoken) in which a) the personal change in myself seemed to be recognized (i.e., since my first attunement); b) another person seemed to me to have "that Reiki vibe." An interesting thing that I recall. One time a professional photographer (female) stayed overnight in the neighbourhood, and in the morning came into my house and brought a laptop computer in with her to show me some images. The laptop had been kept in her car overnight, and when she attempted to boot it, it would not boot -- to her expressed displeasure. She said it had been a problem machine and had been in the shop before. She didn't have a line-voltage power source, so I stuck my hands on the laptop, top and bottom, just to try to transfer ordinary body warmth to the battery. Then she tried it again, and it booted normally -- at which point, out of the blue, she exclaimed that I must be a Reiki master! Well, you probably know my attitude -- it would take a *lot* for me to regard anyone, certainly myself, as a "master," and at that point (a year or 18 months after my first attunement, I *definitely* did not ascribed the title to myself. Still don't. So I said "oh, no." It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. m/J > >Was out shopping at a busy mall (yeah, yeah) on Saturday ... > >Walking into one shop, a lady was walking out at the same >time .. she appeared to be a child of the 60s (which I am) >and unafraid to go grey ...[I'm going grey, but being blond, >you can't see it ] > >She fixed my eye (for it was hurting) and nodded .... > >Being in a zombie mood., it took me a few seconds .. I look >round to ask a question, and she's gone .. > >So we'll never know .. > >Stuart ###### X-Abuse-Report: abuse@teranews.com Message-ID: <5307fd55b77967236ef94e1ce3c19e3a@news.teranews.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 02:41:58 GMT Lines: 37 From: suzee Reply-To: qiuser@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!c03.atl99!chi1.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!news.teranews.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16135 montane wrote: > > On Mon, 24 May 2004 23:46 +0100 (BST), stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart > Vernon) wrote: > > An interesting story, Stuart. > > But as to the question in your subject line, I have sometimes had > brief encounters (often with words unspoken) in which a) the > personal change in myself seemed to be recognized (i.e., since my > first attunement); b) another person seemed to me to have "that > Reiki vibe." > > An interesting thing that I recall. One time a professional > photographer (female) stayed overnight in the neighbourhood, and > in the morning came into my house and brought a laptop computer > in with her to show me some images. The laptop had been kept in > her car overnight, and when she attempted to boot it, it would > not boot -- to her expressed displeasure. She said it had been a > problem machine and had been in the shop before. She didn't have > a line-voltage power source, so I stuck my hands on the laptop, > top and bottom, just to try to transfer ordinary body warmth to > the battery. Then she tried it again, and it booted normally -- > at which point, out of the blue, she exclaimed that I must be a > Reiki master! Well, you probably know my attitude -- it would > take a *lot* for me to regard anyone, certainly myself, as a > "master," and at that point (a year or 18 months after my first > attunement, I *definitely* did not ascribed the title to myself. > Still don't. So I said "oh, no." > > It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed > Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. You're right. You probably just warmed up the battery enough to start it. ;) sue ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:03:09 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085464969 26054 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 06:02:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16138 Stuart Vernon wrote: > Was out shopping at a busy mall (yeah, yeah) on Saturday ... > Walking into one shop, a lady was walking out at the same time > .. she appeared to be a child of the 60s (which I am) > and unafraid to go grey ...[I'm going grey, but being blond, you > can't see it ] > She fixed my eye (for it was hurting) and nodded .... > Being in a zombie mood., it took me a few seconds .. I look > round to ask a question, and she's gone .. > So we'll never know .. > Stuart shopping mall ? best place for crusing on saturday's Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:07:14 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085465215 26121 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 06:06:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16139 montane wrote: > It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed > Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. > m/J amusing .. do we feel guilty to admit that ? or just scared that people might thionk we are mad? why this hiding ? Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:07:59 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <5307fd55b77967236ef94e1ce3c19e3a@news.teranews.com> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085465260 26121 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 06:07:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: <5307fd55b77967236ef94e1ce3c19e3a@news.teranews.com> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!peernews3.colt.net!news0.de.colt.net!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16140 suzee wrote: > You're right. You probably just warmed up the battery enough to start > it. ;) > sue ie: one of the ways of energy :-) Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: "Hilary Starke" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-153-150-135.range81-153.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1085481209 12848 81.153.150.135 (25 May 2004 10:33:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:33:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!194.72.9.35.MISMATCH!news-peer1!news-peer0-test!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16144 Possibly because it is so much fun being "on the inside" (as it were ..... ) I'm newish to this group and find the delightfully non/supportive emails wonderfully entertaining. I may cover a lot of "old ground" - but something that springs to mind about the "master" thing, is a "definition" of a reiki master which I love - it's by William Lee Rand who attuned me - "A reiki master is not one who has mastered reiki, rather one whom reiki is mastering" ..... like that one a lot. Love and hugs Hilary "Theo" wrote in message news:c8unpv$pg9$1@news.eusc.inter.net... > > > montane wrote: > > > > It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed > > Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. > > > > m/J > amusing .. do we feel guilty to admit that ? or just scared that > people might thionk we are mad? > why this hiding ? > > > Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 > > L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni > (la Rochefocault) > > «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» > ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:38:51 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de foDbF+sk6jMW2CNxNQGs6wLS8FDgHQmzXLyaguJIfksy17QyqA X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news.amigo.co.uk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16145 On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:46:38 -0700, montane wrote: >It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed >Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. Joel, I'm curious--what, exactly, qualifies as "Reiki paraphernalia"? Garry ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:35:46 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085484925 2273 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 11:35:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16148 Hilary Starke wrote: > Possibly because it is so much fun being "on the inside" (as it were ..... ) > I'm newish to this group and find the delightfully non/supportive emails > wonderfully entertaining. > I may cover a lot of "old ground" - but something that springs to > mind about > the "master" thing, is a "definition" of a reiki master which I love - it's > by William Lee Rand who attuned me - "A reiki master is not one who has > mastered reiki, rather one whom reiki is mastering" ..... like that one a > lot. > Love and hugs > Hilary very often the best thing to do is to lie down the decks .. than from people's reaction you know what to do I have a lovely american lady in the building and she is very discreet and very oriental and she loves whites flowers a lot and sometimes I feel olibanum or Vatican incens smoldering in the house... and I am wondering .. and few days ago I was in her house and .. I found a fantastic indian closet all wood painted with on each panel the yogy drawings of the human body with chackras as we have in some books about Chachras and once I freely talked with her bout reaiki she said she does as well but all stop there no farther discusion .. so now she knows ,if she does not go further I am warned she does not like to .. Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:40:17 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085485197 2362 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 11:39:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16149 Garry Williams wrote: > On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:46:38 -0700, montane > wrote: > >>It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed >>Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. > Joel, I'm curious--what, exactly, qualifies as "Reiki > paraphernalia"? Garry Beside of some reiki & Zen books on my night table and a Tankra and a Buddha I have the 5 precepts written on a birch bark something 8 " size and that's all and Cheaschire cat stauette form Alice in wonderland and a dream catcher on my wall Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: montane Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:23:23 -0700 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: <33i6b013fnt1pfo8336rrr1s5eusu2k6rf@4ax.com> References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <5307fd55b77967236ef94e1ce3c19e3a@news.teranews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-766.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16151 On Tue, 25 May 2004 02:41:58 GMT, suzee wrote: > >You're right. You probably just warmed up the battery enough to start >it. ;) > >sue Yes, I suppose that is the fact. It's what I felt at the time and what I tend to believe about that incident. Namaste, Sue, montane ###### From: montane Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:28:20 -0700 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-809.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16152 On Tue, 25 May 2004 08:07:14 +0200, Theo wrote: > > >montane wrote: > > >> It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed >> Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. >> >> m/J > amusing .. do we feel guilty to admit that ? or just scared that >people might thionk we are mad? > why this hiding ? > I can only speak for myself. I like simplicity and would rather just be natural and be myself. I enjoy participating in this newsgroup, when I have time, and chatting here with other Reiki folks. But when Reiki comes into a situation in my life, it does so naturally, not because I have a photo of Usui in my living room or because I'm attached to some self-image as "a Reiki person." Namaste, Theo montane ###### From: montane Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:33:50 -0700 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4ii6b0587dn5ji1monks6mk8e4top6c61u@4ax.com> References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-860.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!c03.atl99!sjc1.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!border1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!border2.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16153 On Tue, 25 May 2004 10:38:51 GMT, gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) wrote: >On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:46:38 -0700, montane >wrote: > >>It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed >>Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. > >Joel, I'm curious--what, exactly, qualifies as "Reiki paraphernalia"? > >Garry Hi, Garry When I wrote that, I was thinking of things like a photo of Usui on the wall or the Reiki precepts printed on a wallhanging (or even just some Reiki books lying around). I suppose it might sometimes be a massage table in evidence. Dunno. Not that I have any objection to any of the above. They're fine, just meant that they aren't there in my house. Namaste, montane ###### From: montane Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:54:31 -0700 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 67 Message-ID: <04n6b01fdog7ltpho6k6nd3ag6q9pt3j7q@4ax.com> References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-667.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16156 On Tue, 25 May 2004 10:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Hilary Starke" wrote: >Possibly because it is so much fun being "on the inside" (as it were ..... ) >I'm newish to this group and find the delightfully non/supportive emails >wonderfully entertaining. > Hi, Hilary I believe you have posted here before, but actually I can't recall the specific threads you were part of. My presence here has been scant in the past couple months. When you write that you "find the delightfully non/supportive emails wonderfully entertaining.," what do you mean? When I've exchanged e-mails with the people who post here, I've usually found their e-mails to me to be forthright and helpful. Generally I've found we are groping after the same things, and feel positive about Reiki. Non-supportive? :-! Just curious. Namaste, montane >I may cover a lot of "old ground" - but something that springs to mind about >the "master" thing, is a "definition" of a reiki master which I love - it's >by William Lee Rand who attuned me - "A reiki master is not one who has >mastered reiki, rather one whom reiki is mastering" ..... like that one a >lot. > >Love and hugs > >Hilary > >"Theo" wrote in message >news:c8unpv$pg9$1@news.eusc.inter.net... >> >> >> montane wrote: >> >> >> > It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed >> > Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. >> > >> > m/J >> amusing .. do we feel guilty to admit that ? or just scared that >> people might thionk we are mad? >> why this hiding ? >> >> >> Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 >> >> L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni >> (la Rochefocault) >> >> «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» >> > ###### From: "Hilary Starke" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 89 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <04n6b01fdog7ltpho6k6nd3ag6q9pt3j7q@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-153-150-135.range81-153.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1085499214 10154 81.153.150.135 (25 May 2004 15:33:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:33:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.ip-plus.net!newsfeed.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!194.72.7.126.MISMATCH!news-peer-test!news-peer0-test!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16157 I didn't type non-supportive, I typed non/supportive - i.e. both sorts! I have a warped sense of humour which gets me into a great deal of hot water here and there - fortunately I love warm baths ..... Seriously tho' (never!) - I love the exchange of ideas and associations, of loving energy and interest, of humor - and shared thoughts. If they entertain me - well, I don't think we're humor police, are we? Of course we may be ...... in which case you'll probably bar me (it has happened before!) And as to feeling positive about reiki - you bet I agree with you. Love and hugs Hilary "montane" wrote in message news:04n6b01fdog7ltpho6k6nd3ag6q9pt3j7q@4ax.com... > On Tue, 25 May 2004 10:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Hilary Starke" > wrote: > > >Possibly because it is so much fun being "on the inside" (as it were ..... ) > >I'm newish to this group and find the delightfully non/supportive emails > >wonderfully entertaining. > > > > Hi, Hilary > > I believe you have posted here before, but actually I can't > recall the specific threads you were part of. My presence here > has been scant in the past couple months. > > When you write that you "find the delightfully non/supportive > emails wonderfully entertaining.," what do you mean? > > When I've exchanged e-mails with the people who post here, I've > usually found their e-mails to me to be forthright and helpful. > Generally I've found we are groping after the same things, and > feel positive about Reiki. > > Non-supportive? :-! > > Just curious. > > Namaste, > > montane > > > > >I may cover a lot of "old ground" - but something that springs to mind about > >the "master" thing, is a "definition" of a reiki master which I love - it's > >by William Lee Rand who attuned me - "A reiki master is not one who has > >mastered reiki, rather one whom reiki is mastering" ..... like that one a > >lot. > > > >Love and hugs > > > >Hilary > > > >"Theo" wrote in message > >news:c8unpv$pg9$1@news.eusc.inter.net... > >> > >> > >> montane wrote: > >> > >> > >> > It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed > >> > Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. > >> > > >> > m/J > >> amusing .. do we feel guilty to admit that ? or just scared that > >> people might thionk we are mad? > >> why this hiding ? > >> > >> > >> Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 > >> > >> L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni > >> (la Rochefocault) > >> > >> «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» > >> > > > ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 19:33 +0100 (BST) Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de +TZP0m3hVbjb4ss/4rUMvQdYDwVAT7+SqRN1oqEJLzUzNTiPo= X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16160 (Hilary Starke) wrote: > I have a warped sense of humour Heh! You'll just fit right in ... ;) Stuart ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:06:41 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085511981 25582 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 19:06:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16163 montane wrote: > But when Reiki comes into a situation in my life, it does so > naturally, not because I have a photo of Usui in my living room > or because I'm attached to some self-image as "a Reiki person." > Namaste, Theo > montane I agree the paraphernalia are *within* Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:07:44 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085512043 25582 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 19:07:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16164 Theo wrote: > montane wrote: > >> But when Reiki comes into a situation in my life, it does so >> naturally, not because I have a photo of Usui in my living room >> or because I'm attached to some self-image as "a Reiki person." >> >> Namaste, Theo >> >> montane > I agree the paraphernalia are *within* within us I ment :-) Namaste > Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 > L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni > (la Rochefocault) > «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» > -- Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:23:14 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <04n6b01fdog7ltpho6k6nd3ag6q9pt3j7q@4ax.com> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085512974 25777 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 19:22:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!peernews3.colt.net!news0.de.colt.net!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16166 Hilary Starke wrote: > I didn't type non-supportive, I typed non/supportive - i.e. both sorts! > I have a warped sense of humour which gets me into a great deal of hot water > here and there - fortunately I love warm baths ..... LOL! > Seriously tho' (never!) - I love the exchange of ideas and associations, of > loving energy and interest, of humor - and shared thoughts. If they > entertain me - well, I don't think we're humor police, are we? Of course we > may be ...... in which case you'll probably bar me (it has happened before!) sad scornful exist everywhere ..:-) Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:46:24 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085514363 26096 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 19:46:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16168 Stuart Vernon wrote: > (Hilary Starke) wrote: > >>I have a warped sense of humour > Heh! You'll just fit right in ... ;) > Stuart agreed!;-) Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Organization: http://www.ascesis.net Reply-To: steven@ascesis.net Message-ID: <45a7b05b1a17n7aqooenjrd7ab49ai0hnu@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.116.151.230 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr29.news.prodigy.com 1085515977 ST000 67.116.151.230 (Tue, 25 May 2004 16:12:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:12:57 EDT X-UserInfo1: O@YUS_SEFJTUCFD[LZKJOPHAWB\^PBQLGPQRZUEK@YUDUWYAKVUOPCW[ML\JXUCKVFDYZKBMSFX^OMSAFNTINTDDMVW[X\THOPXZRVOCJTUTPC\_JSBVX\KAOTBAJBVMZTYAKMNLDI_MFDSSOLXINH__FS^\WQGHGI^C@E[A_CF\AQLDQ\BTMPLDFNVUQ_VM Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:12:57 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshosting.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr29.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16170 That was exactly what I thought when I read "non/supportive." I'm still chuckling to myself about it. It's a great observation! On Tue, 25 May 2004 19:33 +0100 (BST), stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) wrote: > >(Hilary Starke) wrote: > >> I have a warped sense of humour > >Heh! You'll just fit right in ... ;) > >Stuart Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA www.ahr-reiki.org www.ascesis.net "If you want to lift yourself up, Lift up someone else." - Booker T. Washington ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:11:57 GMT Lines: 14 Message-ID: <40b3c46f.792552@news.Individual.NET> References: Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de H0rZZDsLdF2JwbjepBE20QjmOhzmnhc2xSzf1MBj6nBp4k6kMW X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16179 On Tue, 25 May 2004 19:33 +0100 (BST), stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) wrote: > >(Hilary Starke) wrote: > >> I have a warped sense of humour > >Heh! You'll just fit right in ... ;) Yep! Another soulmate for all us lost ones! } :-> That GD Williams fellow ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:27:07 GMT Lines: 45 Message-ID: <40b3c4fe.936137@news.Individual.NET> References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> <4ii6b0587dn5ji1monks6mk8e4top6c61u@4ax.com> Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de qB0WjJB6ZgoAi0crkXgxPweLLP9OzoMmKxyHk0Ostw2TpAGQul X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16180 On Tue, 25 May 2004 06:33:50 -0700, montane wrote: >On Tue, 25 May 2004 10:38:51 GMT, gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry >Williams) wrote: > >>On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:46:38 -0700, montane >>wrote: >> >>>It was curious, though, because she and I had never dsicussed >>>Reiki, and I have no Reiki paraphernailia in the house. >> >>Joel, I'm curious--what, exactly, qualifies as "Reiki paraphernalia"? >> >>Garry > >Hi, Garry > >When I wrote that, I was thinking of things like a photo of Usui >on the wall or the Reiki precepts printed on a wallhanging (or >even just some Reiki books lying around). I suppose it might >sometimes be a massage table in evidence. Dunno. > >Not that I have any objection to any of the above. They're fine, >just meant that they aren't there in my house. Ah! Thanks for making that clear. At the time I was wondering if you were referring to crystals, incense, candles, chakra posters, pyramids, singing bowls, angel statues and all the other things people "add on" and cover with the Reiki name. That said, I will admit to being in possession of and occasional use of a singing bowl, various artforms decorated with dragons including a painted/woodburned gourd and a dragon with a crystal pearl in its mouth perched atop a bed of amythest, a candle with Chinese characters on it, a Virgen de Guadalupe candle, diablo ceramics from Mexico, shelves and shelves of books, several feet of which are devoted to Reiki, Traditional Chinese Medicine, qigong, taijiquan, and feng shui, aromatherapy oils, smudge sticks, massage table.....*but* I don't call any of those things Reiki! :-) namaste, Garry ###### From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Organization: http://www.ascesis.net Reply-To: steven@ascesis.net Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> <4ii6b0587dn5ji1monks6mk8e4top6c61u@4ax.com> <40b3c4fe.936137@news.Individual.NET> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.116.151.230 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr25.news.prodigy.com 1085534401 ST000 67.116.151.230 (Tue, 25 May 2004 21:20:01 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:20:01 EDT X-UserInfo1: TSU[@I_AOHVUSW\Y]JIBNFXBWR\HPCTL@XT^OBPLAH[\RWYAKVUOPCW[ML\JXUCKVFDYZKBMSFX^OMSAFNTINTDDMVW[X\THOPXZRVOCJTUTPC\_JSBVX\KAOTBAJBVMZTYAKMNLDI_MFDSSOLXINH__FS^\WQGHGI^C@E[A_CF\AQLDQ\BTMPLDFNVUQ_VM Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 01:20:01 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!priapus.visi.com!orange.octanews.net!news.octanews.net!green.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!news.glorb.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr25.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16187 There's a Reiki Dragon here: http://www.reikisanga.org On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:27:07 GMT, gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) wrote: (snip) >That said, I will admit to being in possession of and >occasional use of a singing bowl, various artforms decorated with >dragons including a painted/woodburned gourd and a dragon with a >crystal pearl in its mouth perched atop a bed of amythest, a candle >with Chinese characters on it, a Virgen de Guadalupe candle, diablo >ceramics from Mexico, shelves and shelves of books, several feet of >which are devoted to Reiki, Traditional Chinese Medicine, qigong, >taijiquan, and feng shui, aromatherapy oils, smudge sticks, massage >table.....*but* I don't call any of those things Reiki! :-) > >namaste, > >Garry > Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA www.ahr-reiki.org www.ascesis.net "If you want to lift yourself up, Lift up someone else." - Booker T. Washington ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 02:51:08 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <40b40567.2318585@news.Individual.NET> References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> <4ii6b0587dn5ji1monks6mk8e4top6c61u@4ax.com> <40b3c4fe.936137@news.Individual.NET> Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de hdgxGgNZ6NFSt/NP/D+S8g9Que7Y+IUbzjiVgxxRPJzXltylq6 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16192 On Wed, 26 May 2004 01:20:01 GMT, "Steven Buck, CMT" wrote: >There's a Reiki Dragon here: >http://www.reikisanga.org Steven, I'm afraid that's a 404. I also tried .com and .net with no luck, either. Also tried hyphenating. Did a quick Google search, too, and failed to turn anything up. Can you double check when you have a spare moment? Thanks, Garry ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Lines: 24 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 03:24:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.83.241.167 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny01.gnilink.net 1085541853 162.83.241.167 (Tue, 25 May 2004 23:24:13 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:24:13 EDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!fu-berlin.de!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nwrdny01.gnilink.net.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16197 > > Beside of some reiki & Zen books on my night table and a Tankra and > a Buddha > I have the 5 precepts written on a birch bark something 8 " size > and that's all and Cheaschire cat stauette form Alice in wonderland > and a dream catcher on my wall was the chesire cat attuned to reiki? i have "alice in wonderland" art up too. alice is peering over the mushroom, the hooking smoking caterpillar is looking down at her and asks "in a languid sleepy voice-'who are you?'" my apartment also has a half-door leading to a closet for which i don't have the key (as it is my landlords closet). i made a sign (to hang on the doorknob) with an image of alice approaching the miniature door with the little golden key in hand. maybe for me there is a dreamy altered reality theme that alice's wonderland shares with the world of reiki. ? or just coincidence. > > ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:53:11 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> <4ii6b0587dn5ji1monks6mk8e4top6c61u@4ax.com> <40b3c4fe.936137@news.Individual.NET> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085550768 5879 212.59.168.7 (26 May 2004 05:52:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: <40b3c4fe.936137@news.Individual.NET> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16202 Garry Williams wrote: > That said, I will admit to being in possession of and > occasional use of a singing bowl, various artforms decorated with > dragons including a painted/woodburned gourd gourd? like two spheres one above teh other? if so I have a tiny pendent one in jade crystal pearl in its mouth perched atop a bed of amythest, this is amazing few years ago I bought a necklace ads teh lasp was a tiny Torai shaped impral jade bar and had a gourd hanging the encklace was made with silver beads and pink and pearl tormaline beads when I had it at home I wateched it more carefully it was achinese piece anyway and I relized that teh Toari T bar that formed teh clasp has to be introduced into a ring of carved pink tormaline The ring of pink tourimaline was in fact a coiled pink dragon holding in his clawas a pink tourmaline pearl the size of the whole thing is about a quarter coin size . So I start wearing the ring inside a chain and the gourd as well than I went to Bangkok for work... ..and had some problems as someone said :-) *with spirits* as I was just intrigued by the *house of spirits* that you can find in the streets corners sort of Thai bird house with smoldering incens and flower necklace / Bangkok is like Los Angeles the city of Angels as it seems has beeen created by angelsm the green ones with wings and gold helmet and lion feet ) , I lost my voice in few minutes for 2 days ( air conditioni most probably ) and so on when back in Geneva few days after I was going to do my yoga and I took away from my neck my chain with the dragon I had my passport on my night table that is leather covered ( the passport) so I carefully put the chain onto it straight with the dragon carefully placed and turned my back and I heard a sound a vibe tsbing!!!!! I turned my head to the source of sound and sow the dragon was broken in 3 pieces.. !!!!! A buddhist lady told me it absorbed some bad energy aimed to me I still have all the pieces glued together and I am thinking since then how to frame them in gold all together the gourd I wear it sparingly what is the gourd significance? someone told me it means thepossibility for the soul to reincarnate is it true? Often wise men statues hold that gourd that was in reality a water or wine container . The end the story after having purchased that necklace I was in paris at Jardin des plantes and there was a chinese exibition and they had exactly the same necklace shown on a bust in a show case it was an antique piece the like of mine >a candle > with Chinese characters on it, a Virgen de Guadalupe candle, diablo > ceramics from Mexico, shelves and shelves of books, several feet of > which are devoted to Reiki, Traditional Chinese Medicine, qigong, > taijiquan, and feng shui, aromatherapy oils, smudge sticks, massage > table.....*but* I don't call any of those things Reiki! :-) a real warlock ! just for today ...& be happy Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:58:57 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> <4ii6b0587dn5ji1monks6mk8e4top6c61u@4ax.com> <40b3c4fe.936137@news.Individual.NET> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085551114 5879 212.59.168.7 (26 May 2004 05:58:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16203 Steven Buck, CMT wrote: > There's a Reiki Dragon here: > http://www.reikisanga.org wrong link Steven Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 19:01:54 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085590889 15061 212.59.168.7 (26 May 2004 17:01:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16214 gingerobyn wrote: >> Beside of some reiki & Zen books on my night table and a Tankra and >>a Buddha >> I have the 5 precepts written on a birch bark something 8 " size >>and that's all and Cheaschire cat stauette form Alice in wonderland >>and a dream catcher on my wall > was the chesire cat attuned to reiki? > i have "alice in wonderland" art up too. alice is peering over the > mushroom, > the hooking smoking caterpillar is looking down at her and asks "in a > languid sleepy voice-'who are you?'" my apartment also has a half-door > leading to a closet for which i don't have the key (as it is my landlords > closet). i made a sign (to hang on the doorknob) with an image of alice > approaching the miniature door with the little golden key in hand. > maybe for me there is a dreamy altered reality theme that alice's > wonderland > shares with the world of reiki. ? or just coincidence. I love alice in wonderland and see it often as my grand doughter 3 1/2 adore it but she loves all the time me to make drawings of witches and ghosts quite unusual for such a young girl ... Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Organization: http://www.ascesis.net Reply-To: steven@ascesis.net Message-ID: References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> <4ii6b0587dn5ji1monks6mk8e4top6c61u@4ax.com> <40b3c4fe.936137@news.Individual.NET> <40b40567.2318585@news.Individual.NET> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.116.151.230 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr25.news.prodigy.com 1085592632 ST000 67.116.151.230 (Wed, 26 May 2004 13:30:32 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:30:32 EDT X-UserInfo1: T[OQRWKEPZRAR_H]]RKB_UDAZZ\DPCPDLXUNNHLHQAVTUZ]CLNTCPFK[WDXDHV[K^FCGJCJLPF_D_NCC@FUG^Q\DINVAXSLIFXYJSSCCALP@PB@\OS@BITWAH\CQZKJMMD^SJA^NXA\GVLSRBD^M_NW_F[YLVTWIGAXAQBOATKBBQRXECDFDMQ\DZFUE@\JM Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:30:32 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!209.11.36.156.MISMATCH!nntp-server.pubsub.com!news.glorb.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr25.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16217 My bad... http://www.reikisangha.org (one of mine of course and will be rated "G"). I'm only sharing this for the sake of the dragon. I'm working on more graphics at that level for the site. The content will be the same as you can find anywhere else, it's just the graphics that will make this site more unique than others. On Wed, 26 May 2004 02:51:08 GMT, gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) wrote: >On Wed, 26 May 2004 01:20:01 GMT, "Steven Buck, CMT" > wrote: > >>There's a Reiki Dragon here: >>http://www.reikisanga.org > >Steven, I'm afraid that's a 404. I also tried .com and .net with no >luck, either. Also tried hyphenating. Did a quick Google search, too, >and failed to turn anything up. Can you double check when you have a >spare moment? > >Thanks, > >Garry > Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA www.ahr-reiki.org www.ascesis.net "If you want to lift yourself up, Lift up someone else." - Booker T. Washington ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you kmow / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 02:13:57 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <40b54d99.2008389@news.Individual.NET> References: <2i85b0h33hnp40eqoqip7ea5uolb2ggj5h@4ax.com> <40b321a6.505708@news.Individual.NET> <4ii6b0587dn5ji1monks6mk8e4top6c61u@4ax.com> <40b3c4fe.936137@news.Individual.NET> <40b40567.2318585@news.Individual.NET> Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de vmaCKTfOWNQCRXfeFoZSYwPa1UJ1DSN68t/+BxAZZ1AWBj2bgv X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16233 On Wed, 26 May 2004 17:30:32 GMT, "Steven Buck, CMT" wrote: >My bad... >http://www.reikisangha.org >(one of mine of course and will be rated "G"). > >I'm only sharing this for the sake of the dragon. I'm working on more >graphics at that level for the site. The content will be the same as >you can find anywhere else, it's just the graphics that will make this >site more unique than others. Thanks for sharing, Steven! Nice dragon! Garry ###### Message-ID: <40B283B8.4B40D7D5@mn.rr.com> From: Alex Barna X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you know / sense a Reiki person when you interact? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 44 Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:16:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.30.225.94 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.rdc-kc.rr.com 1085440606 65.30.225.94 (Mon, 24 May 2004 18:16:46 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 18:16:46 CDT Organization: RoadRunner Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newshosting.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!cyclone.tampabay.rr.com!news-post.tampabay.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!twister.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16131 Hi Stuart, Stuart Vernon wrote: > > Was out shopping at a busy mall (yeah, yeah) on Saturday ... > > Walking into one shop, a lady was walking out at the same > time .. she appeared to be a child of the 60s (which I am) > and unafraid to go grey ...[I'm going grey, but being blond, > you can't see it ] > > She fixed my eye (for it was hurting) and nodded .... > > Being in a zombie mood., it took me a few seconds .. I look > round to ask a question, and she's gone .. > > So we'll never know .. > > Stuart The woman was probably a witch. I have had similar experiences a number of times & the person usually identified their self as a White Witch & assumed that I was one also. Or she may just be attracted to mature men. :) I was going to make a joke about your elderly appearance when the thought crossed my mind that 4 of my children are children of the 60's. GramPaHugs, Alex, -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * AOL Click * AOL Click * Don't worry about life, * you're not going to survive it anyway **************************************************** ###### From: "k.d.cowan" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <40B283B8.4B40D7D5@mn.rr.com> Subject: Re: Do you know / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Lines: 17 Organization: http://www.mega.bz X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <%3Osc.114210$iF6.10647973@attbi_s02> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.169.57.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s02 1085517179 67.169.57.204 (Tue, 25 May 2004 20:32:59 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:32:59 GMT Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:33:00 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.ip-plus.net!newsfeed.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16172 "Alex Barna" wrote in message news:40B283B8.4B40D7D5@mn.rr.com... > The woman was probably a witch. I have had similar experiences a number of times > & the person usually identified their self as a White Witch & assumed that I was > one also. Quite possibly. I've known many a witch that also practiced Reiki, the paths are not too divergent really. -- ------------------------------------------- http://www.MEGA.bz ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Do you know / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:40:13 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <40B283B8.4B40D7D5@mn.rr.com> <%3Osc.114210$iF6.10647973@attbi_s02> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1085517592 27773 212.59.171.109 (25 May 2004 20:39:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: <%3Osc.114210$iF6.10647973@attbi_s02> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16175 k.d.cowan wrote: > "Alex Barna" wrote in message > news:40B283B8.4B40D7D5@mn.rr.com... > >>The woman was probably a witch. I have had similar experiences a number of > times > >>& the person usually identified their self as a White Witch & assumed that > I was > >>one also. > Quite possibly. I've known many a witch that also practiced Reiki, the > paths are not too divergent really. energies involved and intention are the same the means used are partially different Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 L'Umiltą č la Peggiore delle Presunzioni (la Rochefocault) «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» ###### From: "k.d.cowan" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <40B283B8.4B40D7D5@mn.rr.com> <%3Osc.114210$iF6.10647973@attbi_s02> Subject: Re: Do you know / sense a Reiki person when you interact? Lines: 39 Organization: http://www.mega.bz X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.169.57.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s02 1085527393 67.169.57.204 (Tue, 25 May 2004 23:23:13 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:23:13 GMT Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:23:13 GMT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!209.11.36.156.MISMATCH!nntp-server.pubsub.com!news.glorb.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:16185 "Theo" wrote in message news:c90auo$r3t$2@news.eusc.inter.net... > > > k.d.cowan wrote: > > > "Alex Barna" wrote in message > > news:40B283B8.4B40D7D5@mn.rr.com... > > > >>The woman was probably a witch. I have had similar experiences a number of > > > > times > > > >>& the person usually identified their self as a White Witch & assumed that > > > > I was > > > >>one also. > > > Quite possibly. I've known many a witch that also practiced Reiki, the > > paths are not too divergent really. > > energies involved and intention are the same > the means used are partially different Uh huh :-) I might know more about it than I said, really ;-) /b.b. > > «»«»«» Just for today...be happy «»«»«» > -- ------------------------------------------- http://www.MEGA.bz