From: "pr" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <68087810.0402041331.1568ab57@posting.google.com> <68087810.0402050838.636b0b5b@posting.google.com> <68087810.0402051754.34858439@posting.google.com> <402472cd.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <4025c214.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <40266578.A37D3342@shaw.ca> <4029dadb.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <4029f042.1180440@news.Individual.NET> <402bd1b1.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <402D2A55.62A5791D@mn.rr.com> <402dfd6b.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <402E72FE.FED8E778@mn.rr.com> <402ef7ce.1856162@news.Individual.NET> <402FEB56.414ECABA@mn.rr.com> <40305cd9.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <4030F650.5E72F143@mn.rr.com> Subject: OT: God and humans [Re: Knowing vs "That's that"] Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 23:00:13 +0200 Lines: 33 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: nld-dial-196-7-200-141.mweb.co.za Message-ID: <403196be.0@news1.mweb.co.za> X-Trace: 17 Feb 2004 06:21:18 +0200, nld-dial-196-7-200-141.mweb.co.za Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!uunet.co.za!news1.mweb.co.za!nld-dial-196-7-200-141.mweb.co.za Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13806 "Alex Barna" wrote in message news:4030F650.5E72F143@mn.rr.com... > pr wrote: > > > > Are you saying that the form God takes limits His abilities? > > Religions limit Gods abilities by assigning a human male persona to God. I don't see why religion would have anything to do with it. IMO, whatever form is taken by God or anything else, limits the capabilties to the forms capabilities. > > And if Jesus really was God why could he not achieve 100% of > > what a human could achieve? > > IMO, Jesus was no more god than any other other human. He often told the people > that were cured that their faith was what cured them not anything he did. Are you saying that he did *less* than what we do with Reiki? At least we channel or facilitate the flow of the life force which is not exactly not doing anything? Or is it? Just trying to be difficult :) -- Namu Amida Butsu Peter Reber "Life knows its needs" ###### Message-ID: <40324541.494C6558@mn.rr.com> From: Alex Barna Organization: WorldWide_Spam_killers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: OT: God and humans [Re: Knowing vs "That's that"] References: <68087810.0402041331.1568ab57@posting.google.com> <68087810.0402050838.636b0b5b@posting.google.com> <68087810.0402051754.34858439@posting.google.com> <402472cd.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <4025c214.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <40266578.A37D3342@shaw.ca> <4029dadb.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <4029f042.1180440@news.Individual.NET> <402bd1b1.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <402D2A55.62A5791D@mn.rr.com> <402dfd6b.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <402E72FE.FED8E778@mn.rr.com> <402ef7ce.1856162@news.Individual.NET> <402FEB56.414ECABA@mn.rr.com> <40305cd9.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <4030F650.5E72F143@mn.rr.com> <403196be.0@news1.mweb.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 75 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:45:53 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.30.225.94 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.rdc-kc.rr.com 1077036322 65.30.225.94 (Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:45:22 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:45:22 CST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!cyclone.southeast.rr.com!news-server.columbus.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!twister.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13818 pr wrote: > > "Alex Barna" wrote in message > news:4030F650.5E72F143@mn.rr.com... > > pr wrote: > > > > > > Are you saying that the form God takes limits His abilities? > > > > Religions limit Gods abilities by assigning a human male persona to God. > > I don't see why religion would have anything to do with it. Because religious dogma defines God & limits gods ability to what the writers of that dogma could imagine. > IMO, whatever form is taken by God or anything else, limits > the capabilties to the forms capabilities. Why would an Intelligence that could create the universe we live in & all the rules that govern it be limited by taking the form of a human or any other thing in creation. That Intelligence would still be itself, only it's form as perceived by observers would be changed. > > > And if Jesus really was God why could he not achieve 100% of > > > what a human could achieve? > > > > IMO, Jesus was no more god than any other other human. He often told the > people > > that were cured that their faith was what cured them not anything he did. > > Are you saying that he did *less* than what we do with Reiki? No, I'm saying he did what 'we' do with Reiki/UE only he did it *better*. Lets use that person that came 1,000 miles to see a Reiki practitioner as an example. The Reiki practitioner could treat him & hopefully help him. Jesus would only have needed to say that because the guy believed in his abilities enough to make that trip he would be cured because of that belief. IOW, the persons belief would activate the UE to the level that he would be cured. > At least we channel or facilitate the flow of the life force which > is not exactly not doing anything? Or is it? IMO A Reiki practitioner facilitates healing by activating the Neutral UE that in it's natural neutral state doesn't favor one life form over another. > Just trying to be difficult :) Good! Your being difficult makes me think through things I didn't need to think about before. ^_^ GramPaHugs, Alex, > -- > Namu Amida Butsu > Peter Reber > "Life knows its needs" -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * AOL Click * AOL Click * Don't worry about life, * you're not going to survive it anyway ****************************************************