From: "Alison" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Lines: 39 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:02:10 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.107.80.156 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net 1075240927 81.107.80.156 (Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:02:07 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:02:07 GMT Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13164 Hi Good Folks I am sorry that this is such a long post, but please bear with me. I would like to ask some advice relating to an unusual(for me) experience. I think others in the group may have experienced something similar. I spent last weekend with a few friends practising Thai massage and a bit of Reiki. Thai massage is based on energy lines and I always feel energy flow when I treat someone. We also talked a lot about spirit(s) and one of the group is actually a medium. At one point in the day we gave reiki healing to my friend, a sitting short form and then she went on to be given a seichem attunement. Two of us watched(is this allowed? :)) and although I would like to be attuned to this energy I didn't take any part. However at the end of the day we retired to bed and I woke a little while later with a lot of heat like a high temeperature, having had quite a nightmare and feeling quite scared and unwell. I removed my some of the covers but despite the cold night there temperature didn't drop. I finally fell asleep only to be literally jolted awake by a sort of energy zap through my whole body and again the high temeprature. I finally slept with the light on feeling very strange and buzzy. when I closed my eyes there were quite a few colours swirling around and faces froming in the colours. This does actually happen occaisionally to me. The rest of my dreams that night were to do with helping spirits to 'cross over' I know it sounds weird, but thats what i dreamt. It wasn't at all scarey. In the morning I awoke feeling tired, shakey and still slighty buzzy. What I was wondering was did i become attuned to siechem energy or was it a sort of spontaneous self attunement or do folk just think that I overloaded by being in such a group of 'high energy' friends for a day. Thanks for listening/reading love and light to all Alison ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:49:56 GMT Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET> References: Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37ka1nr.dialup.mindspring.com (207.69.6.251) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1075243491 25932775 207.69.6.251 ([218672]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!user-37ka1nr.dialup.mindspring.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13168 Hi Alison! On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:02:10 -0000, "Alison" wrote: >What I was wondering was did i become attuned to siechem energy or was it a >sort of spontaneous self attunement or do folk just think that I overloaded >by being in such a group of 'high energy' friends for a day. Yes, have some. :-) Seriously, it could have been any or all of the above, or something else besides. Hard to say. Try to see what feels like the right answer to you. I think it would be difficult for someone else to say, "Oh, it was definitely such and so" and to be correct. The person best equipped to answer the question is you. Look within for your answers. I know this may not sound like much help, but give it a shot! Love and Light, Garry ###### From: "Alison" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET> Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Lines: 49 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:18:41 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.107.80.156 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net 1075303117 81.107.80.156 (Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:18:37 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:18:37 GMT Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13181 "Garry Williams" wrote in message news:4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET... > Hi Alison! > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:02:10 -0000, "Alison" > wrote: > > > > >What I was wondering was did i become attuned to siechem energy or was it a > >sort of spontaneous self attunement or do folk just think that I overloaded > >by being in such a group of 'high energy' friends for a day. > > Yes, have some. :-) > > Seriously, it could have been any or all of the above, or something > else besides. Hard to say. Try to see what feels like the right answer > to you. I think it would be difficult for someone else to say, "Oh, it > was definitely such and so" and to be correct. The person best > equipped to answer the question is you. Look within for your answers. > > I know this may not sound like much help, but give it a shot! > > Love and Light, > > Garry Thanks Garry I've been thinking about it and I think I can't be certain, but if it wasn't a seichim attunement then it was very close. Probably just an opening up to recieve. It was certainly one of the most intense feelings I have had and i certainly feel alot more 'connected'. Even just chatting about reiki starts the old hands a tingling. I know that it's been said that seichim is a feminine enrgy and the faces that i saw gave the impression of being female in a swirly kind of way. And no i don't just imagine them. i know we can all shut our eyes and make images out if we try, but these were different. I haven't felt that kind of heat all over since Saturday, but enrgy does flow much more quickly at the moment. Perhaps it was a quick start to remove some blockage. Well our snow has been and gone- we never do well in the south of England. Hopefully we can have a bit more and get to go sledging! love Alison ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:47:07 -0600 From: "gargoyle" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET> Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:47:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.50.166.98 X-Trace: sv3-92kdBNwSVDqCIypCMQZeBhlCPlxnj3oyNNV2rR9eRJfL853CpUXG+HIvBdz3bDz0hKFpWDb9UgBQVeB!RxWeE/GkQz4I8ejxU2OEXIVYNKtDnyRrwOlkU6WFl+1QVwvY8hoRZ6aGrgPhc4y8dK3vt5wkFZg= X-Complaints-To: abuse@karoo.kcom.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@karoo.kcom.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!border1.nntp.ash.giganews.com!border2.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!border1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.karoo.co.uk!news.karoo.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13183 "Alison" wrote in message news:hpQRb.12460> Well our snow has been and gone- we never do well in the south of England. > Hopefully we can have a bit more and get to go sledging! > > love Alison > You can have our snow from 'oop north',the car was spinning all over the place on my 8mile journey to work at 5:15 this morning,not looking forward to tomorrows journey too much either. Greg. ###### From: "Ruben" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:43:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Lines: 70 Message-ID: <4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net> Organization: Versatel NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jan 2004 17:43:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: dslam124-162-59-81.dyndsl.zonnet.nl X-Trace: 1075311808 news.versatel.net 184 81.59.162.124:1046 X-Complaints-To: abuse@versatel.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.versatel.net!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13184 It sounds to me like a kundalini arousal. I had a few of those and your descriptions match. You don't need attunements for kundalini. It is earth energy originating fom the energycentre in your lower back. The firy thing happens when you're producing more energy than can handle. The energy pathways are burned clean when the kundalini energy rages through. Hot, fever like, super energized, not sleeping for nights, electric like shocks, shivering, hallucinations, strong sexual feelings, burning pains. All possible. It just depend how much energy was released and how you react on it. Don't be afraid, fighting it can be very painfull, cooperate with it. It's evolution! The Thai massage may have triggered it. Congratulations, you have just grown a bit energetically! ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Alison Nieuwsgroepen: alt.healing.reiki Verzonden: dinsdag 27 januari 2004 23:02 Onderwerp: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload > Hi Good Folks > I am sorry that this is such a long post, but please bear with me. > > I would like to ask some advice relating to an unusual(for me) experience. I > think others in the group may have experienced something similar. > I spent last weekend with a few friends practising Thai massage and a bit of > Reiki. Thai massage is based on energy lines and I always feel energy flow > when I treat someone. We also talked a lot about spirit(s) and one of the > group is actually a medium. > > At one point in the day we gave reiki healing to my friend, a sitting short > form and then she went on to be given a seichem attunement. Two of us > watched(is this allowed? :)) and although I would like to be attuned to this > energy I didn't take any part. > > However at the end of the day we retired to bed and I woke a little while > later with a lot of heat like a high temeperature, having had quite a > nightmare and feeling quite scared and unwell. > I removed my some of the covers but despite the cold night there temperature > didn't drop. I finally fell asleep only to be literally jolted awake by a > sort of energy zap through my whole body and again the high temeprature. I > finally slept with the light on feeling very strange and buzzy. when I > closed my eyes there were quite a few colours swirling around and faces > froming in the colours. This does actually happen occaisionally to me. > The rest of my dreams that night were to do with helping spirits to 'cross > over' I know it sounds weird, but thats what i dreamt. It wasn't at all > scarey. > In the morning I awoke feeling tired, shakey and still slighty buzzy. > > What I was wondering was did i become attuned to siechem energy or was it a > sort of spontaneous self attunement or do folk just think that I overloaded > by being in such a group of 'high energy' friends for a day. > > Thanks for listening/reading > love and light to all > > Alison > > ###### From: "Alison" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET> Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Lines: 30 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:01:04 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.107.80.156 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net 1075316459 81.107.80.156 (Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:00:59 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:00:59 GMT Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.222.61.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13187 Hi Greg I spoke too soon. We had an inch or so in about 20 mins at 5pm. took my hubby an hour to about a mile. It's now bedtime for the kids but they're building snowmen!!! Maybe we'll get a day off school tomorrow. Alison "gargoyle" wrote in message news:ApGcnSHqRY4WeordSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk... > > > > "Alison" wrote in message > news:hpQRb.12460> > > Well our snow has been and gone- we never do well in the south of England. > > Hopefully we can have a bit more and get to go sledging! > > > > love Alison > > > You can have our snow from 'oop north',the car was spinning all over the > place on my 8mile journey to work at 5:15 this morning,not looking forward > to tomorrows journey too much either. > Greg. > > ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:14:47 -0600 From: "gargoyle" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET> Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:14:43 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.50.180.42 X-Trace: sv3-VsOjTIDXqVlNdsHViWDnON80K961A3iYXIiK5GQaNthwy2XTYeIseizwRIg9wC3sNQ6ES4ORZHNun4L!NdBJ6ZFN+Yr6CiGbC+94GYdNJCYN6JbOR6yqQ8yYU71VPlegDkbP7pTPib8WgP8f27dgq7al3wo= X-Complaints-To: abuse@karoo.kcom.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@karoo.kcom.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!diablo.voicenet.com!feed2.newsreader.com!newsreader.com!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!216.196.98.140.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.ash.giganews.com!border2.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!border1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.karoo.co.uk!news.karoo.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13188 -- "Alison" wrote in message news:LFTRb.12606$JL4.102674@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net... > Hi Greg > > I spoke too soon. We had an inch or so in about 20 mins at 5pm. took my > hubby an hour to about a mile. > It's now bedtime for the kids but they're building snowmen!!! > > Maybe we'll get a day off school tomorrow. > > Theres a very good chance of that, over 200 schools in my region were closed today. Greg. ###### From: "ShadowWolf" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET> Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Lines: 84 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:17:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.33.138.52 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.tampabay.rr.com 1075328227 65.33.138.52 (Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:17:07 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:17:07 EST Organization: RoadRunner - Central Florida Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!cyclone.socal.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!news-post.tampabay.rr.com!twister.tampabay.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13194 First time is that it seems obvious enough that you experienced something. That in itself is wonderful for you. As to identifying it well that is another matter all together. Who is to say what it represents? Certainly not anyone who did not experience it themselves. And if the receiver never experienced it before how than can they identify it? It should be enough that you received something and it really isn't necessary to place in within the context of someone else's description. There is One Universal Life force, A rose by any name is still a rose. Kick back, enjoy the ride, go with the flow. namaste' ShadowWolf -- ShadowWolf http://www.mysticreiki.com http://www.reiki.net "Alison" wrote in message news:hpQRb.12460$JL4.101743@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net... > "Garry Williams" wrote in message > news:4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET... > > Hi Alison! > > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:02:10 -0000, "Alison" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >What I was wondering was did i become attuned to siechem energy or was it > a > > >sort of spontaneous self attunement or do folk just think that I > overloaded > > >by being in such a group of 'high energy' friends for a day. > > > > Yes, have some. :-) > > > > Seriously, it could have been any or all of the above, or something > > else besides. Hard to say. Try to see what feels like the right answer > > to you. I think it would be difficult for someone else to say, "Oh, it > > was definitely such and so" and to be correct. The person best > > equipped to answer the question is you. Look within for your answers. > > > > I know this may not sound like much help, but give it a shot! > > > > Love and Light, > > > > Garry > Thanks Garry > > I've been thinking about it and I think I can't be certain, but if it wasn't > a seichim attunement then it was very close. Probably just an opening up to > recieve. It was certainly one of the most intense feelings I have had and i > certainly feel alot more 'connected'. Even just chatting about reiki starts > the old hands a tingling. I know that it's been said that seichim is a > feminine enrgy and the faces that i saw gave the impression of being female > in a swirly kind of way. And no i don't just imagine them. i know we can all > shut our eyes and make images out if we try, but these were different. > > I haven't felt that kind of heat all over since Saturday, but enrgy does > flow much more quickly at the moment. Perhaps it was a quick start to remove > some blockage. > > Well our snow has been and gone- we never do well in the south of England. > Hopefully we can have a bit more and get to go sledging! > > love Alison > > > ###### From: "Alison" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET> Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Lines: 99 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:12:51 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.105.191.158 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net 1075576361 81.105.191.158 (Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:12:41 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:12:41 GMT Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.222.61.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13310 Thanks wolf I think it was all a bitt much that day, but I'm not worried now. Energy flowing well. -- Alison "ShadowWolf" wrote in message news:DxWRb.139591$I05.2548734@twister.tampabay.rr.com... > First time is that it seems obvious enough that you experienced something. > That in itself is wonderful for you. > As to identifying it well that is another matter all together. > Who is to say what it represents? > Certainly not anyone who did not experience it themselves. > And if the receiver never experienced it before how than can they identify > it? > > It should be enough that you received something and it really isn't > necessary to place in within the context of someone else's description. > > There is One Universal Life force, A rose by any name is still a rose. > > Kick back, enjoy the ride, go with the flow. > > namaste' > ShadowWolf > > -- > ShadowWolf > http://www.mysticreiki.com > http://www.reiki.net > "Alison" wrote in message > news:hpQRb.12460$JL4.101743@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net... > > "Garry Williams" wrote in message > > news:4016ea02.891874@news.Individual.NET... > > > Hi Alison! > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:02:10 -0000, "Alison" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >What I was wondering was did i become attuned to siechem energy or was > it > > a > > > >sort of spontaneous self attunement or do folk just think that I > > overloaded > > > >by being in such a group of 'high energy' friends for a day. > > > > > > Yes, have some. :-) > > > > > > Seriously, it could have been any or all of the above, or something > > > else besides. Hard to say. Try to see what feels like the right answer > > > to you. I think it would be difficult for someone else to say, "Oh, it > > > was definitely such and so" and to be correct. The person best > > > equipped to answer the question is you. Look within for your answers. > > > > > > I know this may not sound like much help, but give it a shot! > > > > > > Love and Light, > > > > > > Garry > > Thanks Garry > > > > I've been thinking about it and I think I can't be certain, but if it > wasn't > > a seichim attunement then it was very close. Probably just an opening up > to > > recieve. It was certainly one of the most intense feelings I have had and > i > > certainly feel alot more 'connected'. Even just chatting about reiki > starts > > the old hands a tingling. I know that it's been said that seichim is a > > feminine enrgy and the faces that i saw gave the impression of being > female > > in a swirly kind of way. And no i don't just imagine them. i know we can > all > > shut our eyes and make images out if we try, but these were different. > > > > I haven't felt that kind of heat all over since Saturday, but enrgy does > > flow much more quickly at the moment. Perhaps it was a quick start to > remove > > some blockage. > > > > Well our snow has been and gone- we never do well in the south of England. > > Hopefully we can have a bit more and get to go sledging! > > > > love Alison > > > > > > > > ###### From: "Alison" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net> Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Lines: 93 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:14:52 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.105.191.158 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net 1075576483 81.105.191.158 (Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:14:43 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:14:43 GMT Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.222.61.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13311 Thanks Ruben I had wondered along the lines of Kundalini, but had no sexual feelings. Was probably too scared. However as a couple of others have said, it doesn't rreally matter what you call. I'll just wait and see if it happens again :) Love Alison "Ruben" wrote in message news:4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net... > It sounds to me like a kundalini arousal. I had a few of those and your > descriptions match. You don't need attunements for kundalini. It is earth > energy originating fom the energycentre in your lower back. The firy thing > happens when you're producing more energy than can handle. The energy > pathways are burned clean when the kundalini energy rages through. > Hot, fever like, super energized, not sleeping for nights, electric like > shocks, shivering, hallucinations, strong sexual feelings, burning pains. > All possible. It just depend how much energy was released and how you react > on it. Don't be afraid, fighting it can be very painfull, cooperate with it. > It's evolution! > The Thai massage may have triggered it. > > Congratulations, you have just grown a bit energetically! > > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: Alison > Nieuwsgroepen: alt.healing.reiki > Verzonden: dinsdag 27 januari 2004 23:02 > Onderwerp: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload > > > > Hi Good Folks > > I am sorry that this is such a long post, but please bear with me. > > > > I would like to ask some advice relating to an unusual(for me) experience. > I > > think others in the group may have experienced something similar. > > I spent last weekend with a few friends practising Thai massage and a bit > of > > Reiki. Thai massage is based on energy lines and I always feel energy flow > > when I treat someone. We also talked a lot about spirit(s) and one of the > > group is actually a medium. > > > > At one point in the day we gave reiki healing to my friend, a sitting > short > > form and then she went on to be given a seichem attunement. Two of us > > watched(is this allowed? :)) and although I would like to be attuned to > this > > energy I didn't take any part. > > > > However at the end of the day we retired to bed and I woke a little while > > later with a lot of heat like a high temeperature, having had quite a > > nightmare and feeling quite scared and unwell. > > I removed my some of the covers but despite the cold night there > temperature > > didn't drop. I finally fell asleep only to be literally jolted awake by a > > sort of energy zap through my whole body and again the high temeprature. I > > finally slept with the light on feeling very strange and buzzy. when I > > closed my eyes there were quite a few colours swirling around and faces > > froming in the colours. This does actually happen occaisionally to me. > > The rest of my dreams that night were to do with helping spirits to 'cross > > over' I know it sounds weird, but thats what i dreamt. It wasn't at all > > scarey. > > In the morning I awoke feeling tired, shakey and still slighty buzzy. > > > > What I was wondering was did i become attuned to siechem energy or was it > a > > sort of spontaneous self attunement or do folk just think that I > overloaded > > by being in such a group of 'high energy' friends for a day. > > > > Thanks for listening/reading > > love and light to all > > > > Alison > > > > > > ###### From: suzee Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:10:36 -0500 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <401C27DC.DFEFDB4D@imbris.com> References: <4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net> Reply-To: qiuser@yahoo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pm724-37.dialip.mich.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AUTHid: fordkenn X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!msunews!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13320 Alison wrote: > > Thanks Ruben > > I had wondered along the lines of Kundalini, but had no sexual feelings. Was > probably too scared. However as a couple of others have said, it doesn't > rreally matter what you call. I'll just wait and see if it happens again :) > Love Kundalini energy is not necessarily associated with sexual feelings. It's an energetic force and can be experienced in many ways. sue ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.144.1.130 Message-ID: <401C5BF3.FCF18DC9@shaw.ca> From: Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD telus.net_v5.0.1HS (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload References: <4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net> <401C27DC.DFEFDB4D@imbris.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 20 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:53:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1075600407 24.71.223.147 (Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:53:27 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:53:27 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13326 What? That's why I signed up for Kundalini 101! Rats! For me it'll probably show up as a sudden energetic interest in the art of farriering! :) Rich suzee wrote: > > Alison wrote: > > > > Thanks Ruben > > > > I had wondered along the lines of Kundalini, but had no sexual feelings. Was > > probably too scared. However as a couple of others have said, it doesn't > > rreally matter what you call. I'll just wait and see if it happens again :) > > Love > > Kundalini energy is not necessarily associated with sexual feelings. > It's an energetic force and can be experienced in many ways. > > sue ###### From: suzee Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:19:19 -0500 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <401C6227.FA230DBF@imbris.com> References: <4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net> <401C27DC.DFEFDB4D@imbris.com> <401C5BF3.FCF18DC9@shaw.ca> Reply-To: qiuser@yahoo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pm673-18.dialip.mich.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AUTHid: fordkenn X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!msunews!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13327 Rich wrote: > > What? That's why I signed up for Kundalini 101! Rats! For me it'll > probably show up as a sudden energetic interest in the art of > farriering! :) I said it *might* not... but then again - it could. ;) A farrier, huh....? sue > suzee wrote: > > > > Alison wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Ruben > > > > > > I had wondered along the lines of Kundalini, but had no sexual feelings. Was > > > probably too scared. However as a couple of others have said, it doesn't > > > rreally matter what you call. I'll just wait and see if it happens again :) > > > Love > > > > Kundalini energy is not necessarily associated with sexual feelings. > > It's an energetic force and can be experienced in many ways. > > > > sue ###### From: "Alison" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net> <401C27DC.DFEFDB4D@imbris.com> <401C5BF3.FCF18DC9@shaw.ca> <401C6227.FA230DBF@imbris.com> Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Lines: 40 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:39:28 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.105.191.158 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net 1075639158 81.105.191.158 (Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:39:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:39:18 GMT Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13335 hmmm farrier equals horses equals sexual power??? Isn't that some freudian concept ;)) -- Alison "suzee" wrote in message news:401C6227.FA230DBF@imbris.com... > Rich wrote: > > > > What? That's why I signed up for Kundalini 101! Rats! For me it'll > > probably show up as a sudden energetic interest in the art of > > farriering! :) > > I said it *might* not... but then again - it could. ;) A farrier, > huh....? > > sue > > > suzee wrote: > > > > > > Alison wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Ruben > > > > > > > > I had wondered along the lines of Kundalini, but had no sexual feelings. Was > > > > probably too scared. However as a couple of others have said, it doesn't > > > > rreally matter what you call. I'll just wait and see if it happens again :) > > > > Love > > > > > > Kundalini energy is not necessarily associated with sexual feelings. > > > It's an energetic force and can be experienced in many ways. > > > > > > sue ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:47 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: spr1-bolt3-3-0-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.91) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1075639668 29981908 80.2.124.91 ([41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!spr1-bolt3-3-0-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13337 (Alison) wrote: > hmmm farrier equals horses equals sexual power??? Isn't that some > freudian concept ;)) Yes and no ... it's all about shoes ... ;) http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/shoes.htm Stuart ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:18:26 GMT Lines: 48 Message-ID: <401cfc88.4456551@news.Individual.NET> References: <4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net> <401C27DC.DFEFDB4D@imbris.com> <401C5BF3.FCF18DC9@shaw.ca> <401C6227.FA230DBF@imbris.com> Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37ka004.dialup.mindspring.com (207.69.0.4) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1075641183 29152190 207.69.0.4 ([218672]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news.tiscali.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!user-37ka004.dialup.mindspring.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13338 Stop horsin' around and pony up and we'll see! ;-) Garry On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:39:28 -0000, "Alison" wrote: >hmmm farrier equals horses equals sexual power??? Isn't that some freudian >concept ;)) > > >-- > >Alison >"suzee" wrote in message >news:401C6227.FA230DBF@imbris.com... >> Rich wrote: >> > >> > What? That's why I signed up for Kundalini 101! Rats! For me it'll >> > probably show up as a sudden energetic interest in the art of >> > farriering! :) >> >> I said it *might* not... but then again - it could. ;) A farrier, >> huh....? >> >> sue >> >> > suzee wrote: >> > > >> > > Alison wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Thanks Ruben >> > > > >> > > > I had wondered along the lines of Kundalini, but had no sexual >feelings. Was >> > > > probably too scared. However as a couple of others have said, it >doesn't >> > > > rreally matter what you call. I'll just wait and see if it happens >again :) >> > > > Love >> > > >> > > Kundalini energy is not necessarily associated with sexual feelings. >> > > It's an energetic force and can be experienced in many ways. >> > > >> > > sue > > ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:28 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <401cfeae.5007186@news.Individual.NET> Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: spr1-bolt3-3-0-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.91) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1075642087 29784681 80.2.124.91 ([41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!spr1-bolt3-3-0-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13341 (Garry Williams) wrote: > Thanks! I haven't visited the weebl site in a while. BTW, I was in > bookstore and noticed as I was passing by (but didn't pick it up) a > book with a title something like (I can't remember exact wording at > the moment) "Why men are idiots and why women need more shoes". URImeldaMarcosAICM5USD Stuart ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:30:36 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <401cfeae.5007186@news.Individual.NET> References: Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37ka004.dialup.mindspring.com (207.69.0.4) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1075641913 30131745 207.69.0.4 ([218672]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!user-37ka004.dialup.mindspring.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13339 On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:47 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) wrote: Thanks! I haven't visited the weebl site in a while. BTW, I was in bookstore and noticed as I was passing by (but didn't pick it up) a book with a title something like (I can't remember exact wording at the moment) "Why men are idiots and why women need more shoes". Garry ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.144.1.130 Message-ID: <401D0870.2880A18D@shaw.ca> From: Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD telus.net_v5.0.1HS (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Spontaneous atunement or energy overload References: <4017f4bf$0$184$7eb43735@news.versatel.net> <401C27DC.DFEFDB4D@imbris.com> <401C5BF3.FCF18DC9@shaw.ca> <401C6227.FA230DBF@imbris.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 44 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 14:09:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1075644565 24.71.223.147 (Sun, 01 Feb 2004 07:09:25 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 07:09:25 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshosting.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!167.206.3.103.MISMATCH!news3.optonline.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:13342 Well, once you mention a subject it takes on a life of its own and you never know where the darned thing will end up! Egads! Hope it doesn't end up here! http://free.freespeech.org/india100/asvamedha.htm Alison wrote: > > hmmm farrier equals horses equals sexual power??? Isn't that some freudian > concept ;)) > > -- > > Alison > "suzee" wrote in message > news:401C6227.FA230DBF@imbris.com... > > Rich wrote: > > > > > > What? That's why I signed up for Kundalini 101! Rats! For me it'll > > > probably show up as a sudden energetic interest in the art of > > > farriering! :) > > > > I said it *might* not... but then again - it could. ;) A farrier, > > huh....? > > > > sue > > > > > suzee wrote: > > > > > > > > Alison wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ruben > > > > > > > > > > I had wondered along the lines of Kundalini, but had no sexual > feelings. Was > > > > > probably too scared. However as a couple of others have said, it > doesn't > > > > > rreally matter what you call. I'll just wait and see if it happens > again :) > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > Kundalini energy is not necessarily associated with sexual feelings. > > > > It's an energetic force and can be experienced in many ways. > > > > > > > > sue