Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:13:00 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: New year Reiki related dream Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.8.68 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.8.68 Message-ID: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1072969948 62.203.8.68 (1 Jan 2004 16:12:28 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 19 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12305 I dreamed that someone said to me how people should be attuned to Reiki . First of all must be given the Attunement , and 1 ( just one) Attunement is valid for all levels , master included , is not necessary that the person has some knowledge of reiki before being Attuned At ach level of studies that MUST be done after the attunement another sort of Attunement can be done as confirmation -prize for the progress in knowledge! But was a sort of Attunement and Spirit-Soul Sharing -meditation with another Reiki person to mark the change between the different 3 levels of evolution It was very amusing as dream and it was early in the mornng maybe another cultivation of Reiki is coming to life in this new 2004 Bright Blessings Theo ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Lines: 34 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 06:19:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.84.198.67 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny02.gnilink.net 1073024350 162.84.198.67 (Fri, 02 Jan 2004 01:19:10 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 01:19:10 EST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny02.gnilink.net.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12327 i am not sure i understand the second part of what you said. the first part sounds like what shadowwolf asserts, doesn't it? but you speak of another attunement (the prize for progress in knowledge) which adds a different variation (unless maybe the other one you speak of is like a reiju empowerment). if it's different then apparently another cultivation of reiki IS coming to life and you must trademark it, set up your website, and charge your fee. get on it theo. you're going to be rich! you can be grandmaster theo. post the turban head and crystal ball photo on your webpage to enhance the mystique and lure people into your lair. . . "Theo" wrote in message news:3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch... > I dreamed that someone said to me how people should be attuned to > Reiki . > > First of all must be given the Attunement , and 1 ( just one) > Attunement is valid for all levels , master included , is not > necessary that the person has some knowledge of reiki before being Attuned > > At ach level of studies that MUST be done after the attunement another > sort of Attunement can be done as confirmation -prize for the progress > in knowledge! But was a sort of Attunement and Spirit-Soul Sharing > -meditation with another Reiki person to mark the change between the > different 3 levels of evolution > It was very amusing as dream and it was early in the mornng > maybe another cultivation of Reiki is coming to life in this new > 2004 > > Bright Blessings > Theo > ###### Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 08:54:56 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.3.75 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.3.75 Message-ID: <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1073030097 81.62.3.75 (2 Jan 2004 08:54:57 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 55 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12329 HI Ginger Happy new year the difference from my dream and what is done in Reiki is that is the first attunemente that is the unique and valid one the others could be reiju or something differente as well it was more closer between the Reiji pratictionneer but not necessary and probably are a sort of control benediction or similar but even if not given are not necessary no I do not want to become a guru nor trademark and apparently what I posted interested just you :-) Preaching in the desert has been already done by somene else !LOL! love and light Theo gingerobyn wrote: > i am not sure i understand the second part of what you said. the first part > sounds like what shadowwolf asserts, doesn't it? but you speak of another > attunement (the prize for progress in knowledge) which adds a different > variation (unless maybe the other one you speak of is like a reiju > empowerment). if it's different then apparently another cultivation of > reiki IS coming to life and you must trademark it, set up your website, and > charge your fee. get on it theo. you're going to be rich! you can be > grandmaster theo. post the turban head and crystal ball photo on your > webpage to enhance the mystique and lure people into your lair. . . > > "Theo" wrote in message > news:3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch... > >> I dreamed that someone said to me how people should be attuned to >> Reiki . >> >> First of all must be given the Attunement , and 1 ( just one) >>Attunement is valid for all levels , master included , is not >>necessary that the person has some knowledge of reiki before being > > Attuned > >>At ach level of studies that MUST be done after the attunement another >>sort of Attunement can be done as confirmation -prize for the progress >>in knowledge! But was a sort of Attunement and Spirit-Soul Sharing >>-meditation with another Reiki person to mark the change between the >>different 3 levels of evolution >> It was very amusing as dream and it was early in the mornng >> maybe another cultivation of Reiki is coming to life in this new >> 2004 >> >> Bright Blessings >> Theo >> > > > ###### From: "Daemon Weird" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:57:51 +0100 Organization: IskonInternet d.d. Lines: 95 Message-ID: References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: zg02-022.dialin.iskon.hr X-Trace: sunce.iskon.hr 1073077076 18805 213.191.130.23 (2 Jan 2004 20:57:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@iskon.hr NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jan 2004 20:57:56 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!Iskon!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12344 hi there, theo, i think that you did received message and if you want to do what is said in that message, than you should do, i am doing it for a certain time, and it is not practically new thing in reiki, or that we do call reiki. it is thruth that we do pass through initiations allmost daily, especially when we do accomplish masterhood, but, tradition posts us messages that we do need to do things ruled sometimes somewhere / and if you do some salt in the brains, than you should notice that it is said by other persones/, and imanently that is what i did recognised before in some of my posts as putting borderlines into our paths, mainly to slow us down in our efforts to accomplish healing. just because healed person is more like saint than the common one. or maybe we are out of commonness in proper way, because in that stage i feel that i am more common than ones that do not do reiki or other stuff we often call lightworking. but lets go to the point: that ways of initiations and attunings are common for the this time and i strongly believe that it is really our future. simply because i did experienced that last summer when my teacher of tibetan usui did it to me - all the levels at the once, and she was helded by her guides and ... great experience, really. allso, atunenments can be done only by thoughts and it is simply as snapping the fingers, someone will be or not be attuned just by the will of their own light guides. we are just here to amuse our brains with something till it is over. and that is here, just like bucaneers, haiduks and thieves. our thoughts and our thoughts...oh it is just that we like to think that WE do something. oh, what a ...heck? love and light daemon the one p.s. in Shamballa 13 D we do that stuff much more often, but it is /not/ reiki, isn`t it? :-)))) "Theo" wrote in message news:3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch... > HI Ginger > Happy new year > the difference from my dream and what is done in Reiki is that is > the first attunemente that is the unique and valid one > the others could be reiju or something differente as well it was more > closer between the Reiji pratictionneer but not necessary and probably > are a sort of control benediction or similar but even if not given are > not necessary > no I do not want to become a guru nor trademark and apparently what I > posted interested just you :-) > Preaching in the desert has been already done by somene else !LOL! > love and light > Theo > > > gingerobyn wrote: > > > i am not sure i understand the second part of what you said. the first part > > sounds like what shadowwolf asserts, doesn't it? but you speak of another > > attunement (the prize for progress in knowledge) which adds a different > > variation (unless maybe the other one you speak of is like a reiju > > empowerment). if it's different then apparently another cultivation of > > reiki IS coming to life and you must trademark it, set up your website, and > > charge your fee. get on it theo. you're going to be rich! you can be > > grandmaster theo. post the turban head and crystal ball photo on your > > webpage to enhance the mystique and lure people into your lair. . . > > > > "Theo" wrote in message > > news:3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch... > > > >> I dreamed that someone said to me how people should be attuned to > >> Reiki . > >> > >> First of all must be given the Attunement , and 1 ( just one) > >>Attunement is valid for all levels , master included , is not > >>necessary that the person has some knowledge of reiki before being > > > > Attuned > > > >>At ach level of studies that MUST be done after the attunement another > >>sort of Attunement can be done as confirmation -prize for the progress > >>in knowledge! But was a sort of Attunement and Spirit-Soul Sharing > >>-meditation with another Reiki person to mark the change between the > >>different 3 levels of evolution > >> It was very amusing as dream and it was early in the mornng > >> maybe another cultivation of Reiki is coming to life in this new > >> 2004 > >> > >> Bright Blessings > >> Theo > >> > > > > > > > ###### Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 08:43:28 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.0.11 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.0.11 Message-ID: <3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1073115805 62.203.0.11 (3 Jan 2004 08:43:25 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 166 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12392 HI Well it was just adream but I always pay attention to my dreams as looking backwards I realize that quite sometimes tehy warned / gave advices/or suggest something I am deeply convinced that we all connect sparingly into collective inconscious where we can summarize some answer.. this does not happens everytime in our everyday life nor at will ( at least for me) My dream so so neat so "natural" in its logig and emotional side that maybe was areal ansnwer to some questions I was wondering about or maybe to all these discusssions here about attunements brreds and so on strangely it happend just at the same time or slightly before this general attunement discussion.. I have never been convinced of all- in- one attunements that I refused to receive even for myself , I preferred to put time in between the 3 stages .. all in one weekends end workshops looks to me a brain stuffing game. Probably my dream suggested a different approach First open the channels and than explore the new world intuitively when we read different methods and stiles we have to follow a path that not forcibly suits us, so we start wondering do i really feel energy? why did or did I not feel something, do I act properly does enegy flows or not should I feel or notsomething, what I feel is immagination or ... and so on as we can read here all these questions built up in many individuals ion the sunconscious level blockages by being attuned first and learning after how can be used Reiki what it is suppposed to be Reiki it is a different approach maybe a more natural one.. when I was doing other energy exercises I was doing them for the well being not for the energy did not even know it existed as such , but I realized its manifesation on the physical plane and this opened my awareness to it One more thing amazingly the dream was connected to a maple tree image.. I grow bonsais and I have a predilection for maples maples are prized for their well done soft ramification starting from the main trunk the tree divides into primary secondary and tertiary branches and so on The attunement was as sap going from soil into roots and flowing to the to the tips of the twigs .. the sap in a tree is flowing since is born.. is not added , grows its flows with a mutual echange of leaves and roots growing each of them stimulating the other. In teh Dream each stage of learning was like the ramification from the trunk into smaller and smaller twigs.. As in the tree the attumenent let energy -sap flows , experience and cultivation will make it reach more and more subtle terminals and will develope into new twigs -issues .. wich ones ?.. a tree is endlessly growing if well cared and a bonsai often lives beyond his natural span of life .. and for us probably it means growing into unknown realms we humans are all different, all maples tree ramifications are diferent too ... but are still a tree Thanks to you as by answering to your mail this helped me to recall from my mind parts sides of the dream and concepts that I did not connect in the first moment, and gave not importance at the very firts report in AHR of the dream Bright Blessing Theo Daemon Weird wrote: > hi there, > > theo, i think that you did received message and if you want to do what is > said in that message, than you should do, i am doing it for a certain time, > and it is not practically new thing in reiki, or that we do call reiki. it > is thruth that we do pass through initiations allmost daily, especially when > we do accomplish masterhood, but, tradition posts us messages that we do > need to do things ruled sometimes somewhere / and if you do some salt in the > brains, than you should notice that it is said by other persones/, and > imanently that is what i did recognised before in some of my posts as > putting borderlines into our paths, mainly to slow us down in our efforts to > accomplish healing. just because healed person is more like saint than the > common one. or maybe we are out of commonness in proper way, because in that > stage i feel that i am more common than ones that do not do reiki or other > stuff we often call lightworking. > but lets go to the point: that ways of initiations and attunings are common > for the this time and i strongly believe that it is really our future. > simply because i did experienced that last summer when my teacher of tibetan > usui did it to me - all the levels at the once, and she was helded by her > guides and ... great experience, really. allso, atunenments can be done only > by thoughts and it is simply as snapping the fingers, someone will be or not > be attuned just by the will of their own light guides. we are just here to > amuse our brains with something till it is over. and that is > here, just like bucaneers, haiduks and thieves. our thoughts and our > thoughts...oh it is just that we like to think that WE do something. oh, > what a ...heck? > love and light > daemon the one > p.s. > in Shamballa 13 D we do that stuff much more often, but it is /not/ reiki, > isn`t it? :-)))) > > > "Theo" wrote in message > news:3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch... > >>HI Ginger >> Happy new year >> the difference from my dream and what is done in Reiki is that is >>the first attunemente that is the unique and valid one >> the others could be reiju or something differente as well it was more >>closer between the Reiji pratictionneer but not necessary and probably >>are a sort of control benediction or similar but even if not given are >>not necessary >> no I do not want to become a guru nor trademark and apparently what I >>posted interested just you :-) >> Preaching in the desert has been already done by somene else !LOL! >> love and light >> Theo >> >> >>gingerobyn wrote: >> >> >>>i am not sure i understand the second part of what you said. the first > > part > >>>sounds like what shadowwolf asserts, doesn't it? but you speak of > > another > >>>attunement (the prize for progress in knowledge) which adds a different >>>variation (unless maybe the other one you speak of is like a reiju >>>empowerment). if it's different then apparently another cultivation of >>>reiki IS coming to life and you must trademark it, set up your website, > > and > >>>charge your fee. get on it theo. you're going to be rich! you can be >>>grandmaster theo. post the turban head and crystal ball photo on your >>>webpage to enhance the mystique and lure people into your lair. . . >>> >>>"Theo" wrote in message >>>news:3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch... >>> >>> >>>> I dreamed that someone said to me how people should be attuned to >>>> Reiki . >>>> >>>> First of all must be given the Attunement , and 1 ( just one) >>>>Attunement is valid for all levels , master included , is not >>>>necessary that the person has some knowledge of reiki before being >>> >>>Attuned >>> >>> >>>>At ach level of studies that MUST be done after the attunement another >>>>sort of Attunement can be done as confirmation -prize for the progress >>>>in knowledge! But was a sort of Attunement and Spirit-Soul Sharing >>>>-meditation with another Reiki person to mark the change between the >>>>different 3 levels of evolution >>>> It was very amusing as dream and it was early in the mornng >>>> maybe another cultivation of Reiki is coming to life in this new >>>> 2004 >>>> >>>> Bright Blessings >>>> Theo >>>> >>> >>> >>> > > ###### From: "Daemon Weird" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:23:07 +0100 Organization: IskonInternet d.d. Lines: 193 Message-ID: References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: zg04-033.dialin.iskon.hr X-Trace: sunce.iskon.hr 1073247796 26152 213.191.137.34 (4 Jan 2004 20:23:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@iskon.hr NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Jan 2004 20:23:16 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!Iskon!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12443 it was worth one for me too, my dear :-)))) "Theo" wrote in message news:3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch... > HI > Well it was just adream but I always pay attention to my dreams as > looking backwards I realize that quite sometimes tehy warned / gave > advices/or suggest something > I am deeply convinced that we all connect sparingly into collective > inconscious where we can summarize some answer.. this does not happens > everytime in our everyday life nor at will ( at least for me) > My dream so so neat so "natural" in its logig and emotional side that > maybe was areal ansnwer to some questions I was wondering about or > maybe to all these discusssions here about attunements brreds and so on > strangely it happend just at the same time or slightly before this > general attunement discussion.. > I have never been convinced of all- in- one attunements that I > refused to receive even for myself , I preferred to put time in > between the 3 stages .. all in one weekends end workshops looks to me > a brain stuffing game. > Probably my dream suggested a different approach > First open the channels and than explore the new world intuitively > when we read different methods and stiles we have to follow a path > that not forcibly suits us, so we start wondering do i really feel > energy? why did or did I not feel something, do I act properly does > enegy flows or not should I feel or notsomething, what I feel is > immagination or ... and so on as we can read here > all these questions built up in many individuals ion the > sunconscious level blockages > by being attuned first and learning after how can be used Reiki what > it is suppposed to be Reiki it is a different approach maybe a more > natural one.. > > when I was doing other energy exercises I was doing them for the > well being not for the energy did not even know it existed as such , but > I realized its manifesation on the physical plane and this opened my > awareness to it > One more thing amazingly the dream was connected to a maple tree > image.. I grow bonsais and I have a predilection for maples > maples are prized for their well done soft ramification > starting from the main trunk the tree divides into primary > secondary and tertiary branches and so on > The attunement was as sap going from soil into roots and flowing to > the to the tips of the twigs .. the sap in a tree is flowing since is > born.. is not added , grows its flows with a mutual echange of > leaves and roots growing each of them stimulating the other. > In teh Dream each stage of learning was like the ramification from > the trunk into smaller and smaller twigs.. > As in the tree the attumenent let energy -sap flows , experience and > cultivation will make it reach more and more subtle terminals and will > develope into new twigs -issues .. wich ones ?.. a tree is endlessly > growing if well cared and a bonsai often lives beyond his natural > span of life .. and for us probably it means growing into unknown realms > we humans are all different, all maples tree ramifications are > diferent too ... but are still a tree > Thanks to you as by answering to your mail this helped me to > recall from my mind parts sides of the dream and concepts that I did > not connect in the first moment, and gave not importance at the very > firts report in AHR of the dream > Bright Blessing > Theo > > > > Daemon Weird wrote: > > hi there, > > > > theo, i think that you did received message and if you want to do what is > > said in that message, than you should do, i am doing it for a certain time, > > and it is not practically new thing in reiki, or that we do call reiki. it > > is thruth that we do pass through initiations allmost daily, especially when > > we do accomplish masterhood, but, tradition posts us messages that we do > > need to do things ruled sometimes somewhere / and if you do some salt in the > > brains, than you should notice that it is said by other persones/, and > > imanently that is what i did recognised before in some of my posts as > > putting borderlines into our paths, mainly to slow us down in our efforts to > > accomplish healing. just because healed person is more like saint than the > > common one. or maybe we are out of commonness in proper way, because in that > > stage i feel that i am more common than ones that do not do reiki or other > > stuff we often call lightworking. > > but lets go to the point: that ways of initiations and attunings are common > > for the this time and i strongly believe that it is really our future. > > simply because i did experienced that last summer when my teacher of tibetan > > usui did it to me - all the levels at the once, and she was helded by her > > guides and ... great experience, really. allso, atunenments can be done only > > by thoughts and it is simply as snapping the fingers, someone will be or not > > be attuned just by the will of their own light guides. we are just here to > > amuse our brains with something till it is over. and that is > > here, just like bucaneers, haiduks and thieves. our thoughts and our > > thoughts...oh it is just that we like to think that WE do something. oh, > > what a ...heck? > > love and light > > daemon the one > > p.s. > > in Shamballa 13 D we do that stuff much more often, but it is /not/ reiki, > > isn`t it? :-)))) > > > > > > "Theo" wrote in message > > news:3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch... > > > >>HI Ginger > >> Happy new year > >> the difference from my dream and what is done in Reiki is that is > >>the first attunemente that is the unique and valid one > >> the others could be reiju or something differente as well it was more > >>closer between the Reiji pratictionneer but not necessary and probably > >>are a sort of control benediction or similar but even if not given are > >>not necessary > >> no I do not want to become a guru nor trademark and apparently what I > >>posted interested just you :-) > >> Preaching in the desert has been already done by somene else !LOL! > >> love and light > >> Theo > >> > >> > >>gingerobyn wrote: > >> > >> > >>>i am not sure i understand the second part of what you said. the first > > > > part > > > >>>sounds like what shadowwolf asserts, doesn't it? but you speak of > > > > another > > > >>>attunement (the prize for progress in knowledge) which adds a different > >>>variation (unless maybe the other one you speak of is like a reiju > >>>empowerment). if it's different then apparently another cultivation of > >>>reiki IS coming to life and you must trademark it, set up your website, > > > > and > > > >>>charge your fee. get on it theo. you're going to be rich! you can be > >>>grandmaster theo. post the turban head and crystal ball photo on your > >>>webpage to enhance the mystique and lure people into your lair. . . > >>> > >>>"Theo" wrote in message > >>>news:3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch... > >>> > >>> > >>>> I dreamed that someone said to me how people should be attuned to > >>>> Reiki . > >>>> > >>>> First of all must be given the Attunement , and 1 ( just one) > >>>>Attunement is valid for all levels , master included , is not > >>>>necessary that the person has some knowledge of reiki before being > >>> > >>>Attuned > >>> > >>> > >>>>At ach level of studies that MUST be done after the attunement another > >>>>sort of Attunement can be done as confirmation -prize for the progress > >>>>in knowledge! But was a sort of Attunement and Spirit-Soul Sharing > >>>>-meditation with another Reiki person to mark the change between the > >>>>different 3 levels of evolution > >>>> It was very amusing as dream and it was early in the mornng > >>>> maybe another cultivation of Reiki is coming to life in this new > >>>> 2004 > >>>> > >>>> Bright Blessings > >>>> Theo > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Lines: 81 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 01:27:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.84.186.179 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny02.gnilink.net 1073352463 162.84.186.179 (Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:27:43 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:27:43 EST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny02.gnilink.net.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12476 i really liked that description, it sounds like a beautiful dream. i am still interested, though of course i was just joking about starting your own high priced reiki. the comparison to the tree really reached me because i feel such a fondness for trees. speaking of dreams i have been having very bizarre ones for the past week or so. they are full of anxiety and i hope are merely serving to bring anxieties to the surface so that i can release them. i spoke to a friend who also had some very vivid dreams this week and hers were so vivid and hopeful and seemed more connected to the divine like yours and i felt sad that mine aren't like that. i almost decided that i must not be as evolved or connected to the source as she is but i guess thats a foolish way to look at it. i do hope and think that perhaps they are just helping me recognize some of my subconscious fears and anxieties so i can let them go. "Theo" wrote in message news:3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch... > HI > Well it was just adream but I always pay attention to my dreams as > looking backwards I realize that quite sometimes tehy warned / gave > advices/or suggest something > I am deeply convinced that we all connect sparingly into collective > inconscious where we can summarize some answer.. this does not happens > everytime in our everyday life nor at will ( at least for me) > My dream so so neat so "natural" in its logig and emotional side that > maybe was areal ansnwer to some questions I was wondering about or > maybe to all these discusssions here about attunements brreds and so on > strangely it happend just at the same time or slightly before this > general attunement discussion.. > I have never been convinced of all- in- one attunements that I > refused to receive even for myself , I preferred to put time in > between the 3 stages .. all in one weekends end workshops looks to me > a brain stuffing game. > Probably my dream suggested a different approach > First open the channels and than explore the new world intuitively > when we read different methods and stiles we have to follow a path > that not forcibly suits us, so we start wondering do i really feel > energy? why did or did I not feel something, do I act properly does > enegy flows or not should I feel or notsomething, what I feel is > immagination or ... and so on as we can read here > all these questions built up in many individuals ion the > sunconscious level blockages > by being attuned first and learning after how can be used Reiki what > it is suppposed to be Reiki it is a different approach maybe a more > natural one.. > > when I was doing other energy exercises I was doing them for the > well being not for the energy did not even know it existed as such , but > I realized its manifesation on the physical plane and this opened my > awareness to it > One more thing amazingly the dream was connected to a maple tree > image.. I grow bonsais and I have a predilection for maples > maples are prized for their well done soft ramification > starting from the main trunk the tree divides into primary > secondary and tertiary branches and so on > The attunement was as sap going from soil into roots and flowing to > the to the tips of the twigs .. the sap in a tree is flowing since is > born.. is not added , grows its flows with a mutual echange of > leaves and roots growing each of them stimulating the other. > In teh Dream each stage of learning was like the ramification from > the trunk into smaller and smaller twigs.. > As in the tree the attumenent let energy -sap flows , experience and > cultivation will make it reach more and more subtle terminals and will > develope into new twigs -issues .. wich ones ?.. a tree is endlessly > growing if well cared and a bonsai often lives beyond his natural > span of life .. and for us probably it means growing into unknown realms > we humans are all different, all maples tree ramifications are > diferent too ... but are still a tree > Thanks to you as by answering to your mail this helped me to > recall from my mind parts sides of the dream and concepts that I did > not connect in the first moment, and gave not importance at the very > firts report in AHR of the dream > Bright Blessing > Theo > >>> > >>> > > > > > ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 23:55:57 -0600 From: "gw" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 00:00:17 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <7N-dnXBDWJtz0Gei4p2dnA@idworld.net> Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.70.4 X-Trace: sv3-TjkWWR3Rk+a/qws5P1wX4RAdQJUAmTBQux+shyDS9O+mWwIlLDiPaAgKWzJyxvF0CnBehREpv59k7NL!JF4ySstN+UNYiGU6fsla+1ug0a387HL7LLcXJa+3WjPfxJddi19sORWZkg3fEC06whBTCF+mvw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@idworld.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@idworld.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.idworld.net!news.idworld.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12492 Theo-I actually think your dream may be the way we go in the not-so-distant future. I am finding more and more people are having wonderful success with Reiki, the first time they get an attunement, and by giving them all the symbols the first go-round, you then give them an opportunity to increase the "feel" of the Reiki and their own self knowledge by adding Seikem, Violet Flame,etc. in additional levels. Most teachers have several types of Reiki available to them, anymore, and it would be easy to develope some sort of heirarchy (perhaps depending on the student's development.) More and more of us are becoming conciously aware of the internal connection we have with God, and it's really just a matter of reconnecting the adults and those children who have lost their way, I think in another two generations we won't have to have Reiki teachers, as most of us will just be doing it automatically. Your dream may be pointing the way to your personal teaching. It has some wonderful metaphors, and you should continue to explore them. Happy New Year! gw ###### Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 07:57:50 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.238.2 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.238.2 Message-ID: <3ffa5c5f_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1073372255 81.62.238.2 (6 Jan 2004 07:57:35 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 112 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12499 Hi Ginger gingerobyn wrote: > i really liked that description, it sounds like a beautiful dream. i am > still interested, though of course i was just joking about starting your own > high priced reiki. the comparison to the tree really reached me because i > feel such a fondness for trees. I did understand.. yes brain sometimes supply an imagery to explain in a materilistic way a concept that is abstract > speaking of dreams i have been having very bizarre ones for the past week or > so. they are full of anxiety and i hope are merely serving to bring > anxieties to the surface so that i can release them. thi sis good if you can pour out your inner problems but it might be a subsconscious warning too that you are steppin in a dangerous zone.. >i spoke to a friend who > also had some very vivid dreams this week and hers were so vivid and hopeful > and seemed more connected to the divine like yours and i felt sad that mine > aren't like that. i almost decided that i must not be as evolved or > connected to the source as she is but i guess thats a foolish way to look at > it. i do hope and think that perhaps they are just helping me recognize some > of my subconscious fears and anxieties so i can let them go. it is always interesting use a dream and do some introspection I always suggesto a silly thing to do sit yourself in front of a mirror and explain by words to your image the dream, articulating words will straighten the intertwined concepets of your mind .. before last century people went confessing to a priest .. and it was excellento to clear our concepts and faults burden ,and it was free, today we go to see a very expensive shrink , talong in front of teh mirror is better than with a priest cheaper than with a shrink and probably as valid as.. just my personal opinion:-) T H E O > "Theo" wrote in message > news:3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch... > >>HI >> Well it was just adream but I always pay attention to my dreams as >>looking backwards I realize that quite sometimes tehy warned / gave >>advices/or suggest something >> I am deeply convinced that we all connect sparingly into collective >>inconscious where we can summarize some answer.. this does not happens >>everytime in our everyday life nor at will ( at least for me) >> My dream so so neat so "natural" in its logig and emotional side that >>maybe was areal ansnwer to some questions I was wondering about or >>maybe to all these discusssions here about attunements brreds and so on >> strangely it happend just at the same time or slightly before this >>general attunement discussion.. >> I have never been convinced of all- in- one attunements that I >>refused to receive even for myself , I preferred to put time in >>between the 3 stages .. all in one weekends end workshops looks to me >>a brain stuffing game. >> Probably my dream suggested a different approach >>First open the channels and than explore the new world intuitively >> when we read different methods and stiles we have to follow a path >>that not forcibly suits us, so we start wondering do i really feel >>energy? why did or did I not feel something, do I act properly does >>enegy flows or not should I feel or notsomething, what I feel is >>immagination or ... and so on as we can read here >> all these questions built up in many individuals ion the >>sunconscious level blockages >> by being attuned first and learning after how can be used Reiki what >>it is suppposed to be Reiki it is a different approach maybe a more >>natural one.. >> >> when I was doing other energy exercises I was doing them for the >>well being not for the energy did not even know it existed as such , but >>I realized its manifesation on the physical plane and this opened my >>awareness to it >> One more thing amazingly the dream was connected to a maple tree >>image.. I grow bonsais and I have a predilection for maples >> maples are prized for their well done soft ramification >> starting from the main trunk the tree divides into primary >>secondary and tertiary branches and so on >> The attunement was as sap going from soil into roots and flowing to >>the to the tips of the twigs .. the sap in a tree is flowing since is >>born.. is not added , grows its flows with a mutual echange of >>leaves and roots growing each of them stimulating the other. >> In teh Dream each stage of learning was like the ramification from >>the trunk into smaller and smaller twigs.. >> As in the tree the attumenent let energy -sap flows , experience and >>cultivation will make it reach more and more subtle terminals and will >>develope into new twigs -issues .. wich ones ?.. a tree is endlessly >>growing if well cared and a bonsai often lives beyond his natural >>span of life .. and for us probably it means growing into unknown realms >> we humans are all different, all maples tree ramifications are >>diferent too ... but are still a tree >> Thanks to you as by answering to your mail this helped me to >>recall from my mind parts sides of the dream and concepts that I did >>not connect in the first moment, and gave not importance at the very >>firts report in AHR of the dream >> Bright Blessing >> Theo >> >>>>> >>> > > ###### Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:06:32 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch> <7N-dnXBDWJtz0Gei4p2dnA@idworld.net> In-Reply-To: <7N-dnXBDWJtz0Gei4p2dnA@idworld.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.238.2 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.238.2 Message-ID: <3ffa5e69_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1073372777 81.62.238.2 (6 Jan 2004 08:06:17 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 43 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12500 HI Happy new year you too :-) gw wrote: > Theo-I actually think your dream may be the way we go in the not-so-distant > future. I am finding more and more people are having wonderful success with > Reiki, the first time they get an attunement, and by giving them all the > symbols the first go-round, you then give them an opportunity to increase > the "feel" of the Reiki and their own self knowledge by adding Seikem, > Violet Flame,etc. I always have been against the all- in- one method but it could be a good solution first of all the channels are open and later the person *instinctively* and without an a-priori opinion will follow instinctively what will be probably more suitable for her/his evolution one peson shoudl be attuned forst than and after has tio be given teh palette of possibilities and choose by himself what will feel more attracted to often people start with a method a s had no other possibility and later one dismiss it and find another one more suitable as we read here quite often .. the risult will be teh same but maybe the previous one will be more instictive.. T H E O >in additional levels. Most teachers have several types of > Reiki available to them, anymore, and it would be easy to develope some sort > of heirarchy (perhaps depending on the student's development.) More and more > of us are becoming conciously aware of the internal connection we have with > God, and it's really just a matter of reconnecting the adults and those > children who have lost their way, I think in another two generations we > won't have to have Reiki teachers, as most of us will just be doing it > automatically. > Your dream may be pointing the way to your personal teaching. It has some > wonderful metaphors, and you should continue to explore them. > Happy New Year! > gw > > ###### From: "ShadowWolf" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Lines: 52 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:18:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.33.138.52 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.tampabay.rr.com 1073456294 65.33.138.52 (Wed, 07 Jan 2004 01:18:14 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 01:18:14 EST Organization: RoadRunner - Central Florida Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!news.mediascape.de!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!cyclone.tampabay.rr.com!news-post.tampabay.rr.com!twister.tampabay.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12543 Hi Theo, For your information: One singular attunement which fully empowered the receiver (regardless of any previous experience or lack of) to the full Reiki empowerment (Reiki Master/Teacher) was publically introduced back in 1993 by A. Joseph Sparti {known as "Runnin Wolfe" than and ShadowWolf now}. Following that I initiated the first Free Worldwide Distant Singular Attunement to Reiki Master/Teacher and have provided free attunements to the same on a monthly basic since about 1996/97. At the time the above was not very well received by the other Reiki Masters as you can well imagine if you are aware of the structure of Reiki teaching back than. However in spite of the objections (which were many) I have never deviated from my teachings and today there are hundreds of other reiki Master teachers who are copying what I introduced. I have also taught that attunements do not come from the Reiki Teacher but from within the receiver themselves. The Power lies within the Self and is the acceptance or acknowledgement of a higher Power. -- ShadowWolf http://www.mysticreiki.com http://www.reiki.net "Theo" wrote in message news:3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch... > I dreamed that someone said to me how people should be attuned to > Reiki . > > First of all must be given the Attunement , and 1 ( just one) > Attunement is valid for all levels , master included , is not > necessary that the person has some knowledge of reiki before being Attuned > > At ach level of studies that MUST be done after the attunement another > sort of Attunement can be done as confirmation -prize for the progress > in knowledge! But was a sort of Attunement and Spirit-Soul Sharing > -meditation with another Reiki person to mark the change between the > different 3 levels of evolution > It was very amusing as dream and it was early in the mornng > maybe another cultivation of Reiki is coming to life in this new > 2004 > > Bright Blessings > Theo > > ###### Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 08:27:40 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.101.237 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.101.237 Message-ID: <3ffbb4d7$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1073460439 81.62.101.237 (7 Jan 2004 08:27:19 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 39 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12545 Hi Shadowwolf Nice to meet you:-) ShadowWolf wrote: > Hi Theo, > > For your information: > One singular attunement which fully empowered the receiver (regardless of > any previous experience or lack of) to the full Reiki empowerment (Reiki > Master/Teacher) was publically introduced back in 1993 by A. Joseph Sparti > {known as "Runnin Wolfe" than and ShadowWolf now}. as usual I am not the first probably my mind retrived this information in the collective inconscious.. I just started reiki almost 2 years ago > Following that I initiated the first Free Worldwide Distant Singular > Attunement to Reiki Master/Teacher and have provided free attunements to the > same on a monthly basic since about 1996/97. ok > At the time the above was not very well received by the other Reiki Masters > as you can well imagine if you are aware of the structure of Reiki teaching > back than. I imagine LOL! > However in spite of the objections (which were many) I have never deviated > from my teachings and today there are hundreds of other reiki Master > teachers who are copying what I introduced. >> I have also taught that attunements do not come from the Reiki Teacher but > from within the receiver themselves. The Power lies within the Self and is > the acceptance or acknowledgement of a higher Power. I agree with you .. the Attunement is a sort of self confidence switch! Thanks for sharing Theo ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ffa5c5f_3@news.bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Lines: 137 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 07:19:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.84.210.236 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny02.gnilink.net 1073546377 162.84.210.236 (Thu, 08 Jan 2004 02:19:37 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 02:19:37 EST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!216.166.71.118.MISMATCH!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny02.gnilink.net.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12615 hi theo you wrote: > it is always interesting use a dream and do some introspection > I always suggesto a silly thing to do > sit yourself in front of a mirror and explain by words to your > image the dream, articulating words will straighten the intertwined > concepets of your mind .. before last century people went confessing > to a priest .. and it was excellento to clear our concepts and faults > burden ,and it was free, today we go to see a very expensive shrink , > talong in front of teh mirror is better than with a priest cheaper than > with a shrink and probably as valid as.. > just my personal opinion:-) thats a cute and clever idea. you always have interesting ideas and thoughts. . . but i think if i tried that it would freak me out and bring up entirely different issues of recognizing myself and who i am. if i look in the mirror to brush my hair its just this thing i do everyday and i just see parts of me, i look critically at whether or not my hair looks good or bad that day, my skin looks clear or spotty, my eyes look pretty or puffy. . . i forget that i am looking at a whole person. if i look myself in the face objectively and then talk to myself on top of it i know it will be wierd. i remember seeing myself clearly in the mirror for the first time that i could remember when i was 18 and drunk and stoned (cheap beer and marijuana). it frightened me! i was in the bathroom at a fraternity party with a number of girls banging on the door and complaining that the line was too long and i just got into this different place, said hello to myself in the mirror, stared at myself then asked myself who i was and what the hell i was doing there in this place that felt wrong to me. i recognized myself as being pretty which i didn't really acknowledge or know and then i felt like i was looking beyond that and saw myself as ugly because i was ashamed of certain things. then i felt separate from myself and like i had no idea who i was looking at all and just kept asking myself "who are you?" it's almost funny now because teenagers and young adults are certainly searching to discover who they are, but i actually looked in the mirror and asked myself that. i didn't get an answer at that time. well i am in a much different place now 11 years later but i still have some issues related to knowing myself and accepting myself and i think that looking myself in the face like that in the mirror and talking to myself would still affect me in a really strange way. now you have inspired me. i think i will do it just for that reason. not to talk out my dreams or anything like that now, just to reintroduce myself to the mental and physical image at once. i am usually only in my head. > > > > "Theo" wrote in message > > news:3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch... > > > >>HI > >> Well it was just adream but I always pay attention to my dreams as > >>looking backwards I realize that quite sometimes tehy warned / gave > >>advices/or suggest something > >> I am deeply convinced that we all connect sparingly into collective > >>inconscious where we can summarize some answer.. this does not happens > >>everytime in our everyday life nor at will ( at least for me) > >> My dream so so neat so "natural" in its logig and emotional side that > >>maybe was areal ansnwer to some questions I was wondering about or > >>maybe to all these discusssions here about attunements brreds and so on > >> strangely it happend just at the same time or slightly before this > >>general attunement discussion.. > >> I have never been convinced of all- in- one attunements that I > >>refused to receive even for myself , I preferred to put time in > >>between the 3 stages .. all in one weekends end workshops looks to me > >>a brain stuffing game. > >> Probably my dream suggested a different approach > >>First open the channels and than explore the new world intuitively > >> when we read different methods and stiles we have to follow a path > >>that not forcibly suits us, so we start wondering do i really feel > >>energy? why did or did I not feel something, do I act properly does > >>enegy flows or not should I feel or notsomething, what I feel is > >>immagination or ... and so on as we can read here > >> all these questions built up in many individuals ion the > >>sunconscious level blockages > >> by being attuned first and learning after how can be used Reiki what > >>it is suppposed to be Reiki it is a different approach maybe a more > >>natural one.. > >> > >> when I was doing other energy exercises I was doing them for the > >>well being not for the energy did not even know it existed as such , but > >>I realized its manifesation on the physical plane and this opened my > >>awareness to it > >> One more thing amazingly the dream was connected to a maple tree > >>image.. I grow bonsais and I have a predilection for maples > >> maples are prized for their well done soft ramification > >> starting from the main trunk the tree divides into primary > >>secondary and tertiary branches and so on > >> The attunement was as sap going from soil into roots and flowing to > >>the to the tips of the twigs .. the sap in a tree is flowing since is > >>born.. is not added , grows its flows with a mutual echange of > >>leaves and roots growing each of them stimulating the other. > >> In teh Dream each stage of learning was like the ramification from > >>the trunk into smaller and smaller twigs.. > >> As in the tree the attumenent let energy -sap flows , experience and > >>cultivation will make it reach more and more subtle terminals and will > >>develope into new twigs -issues .. wich ones ?.. a tree is endlessly > >>growing if well cared and a bonsai often lives beyond his natural > >>span of life .. and for us probably it means growing into unknown realms > >> we humans are all different, all maples tree ramifications are > >>diferent too ... but are still a tree > >> Thanks to you as by answering to your mail this helped me to > >>recall from my mind parts sides of the dream and concepts that I did > >>not connect in the first moment, and gave not importance at the very > >>firts report in AHR of the dream > >> Bright Blessing > >> Theo > >> > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > ###### From: "pr" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff523d1$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3ff6729d_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3ffa5c5f_3@news.bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:51:19 +0200 Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: nld-dial-196-7-201-94.mweb.co.za Message-ID: <3ffda73e.0@news1.mweb.co.za> X-Trace: 8 Jan 2004 20:53:50 +0200, nld-dial-196-7-201-94.mweb.co.za Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!uunet.co.za!news1.mweb.co.za!nld-dial-196-7-201-94.mweb.co.za Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12651 "Theo" wrote in message news:3ffa5c5f_3@news.bluewin.ch... > and probably as valid as.. Not even remotely so. -- Namu Amida Butsu Peter Reber "Life knows its needs" ###### From: seven Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Organization: http://seven.postmodern.com Message-ID: References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.169.57.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s02 1074123918 67.169.57.204 (Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:45:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:45:18 GMT Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:45:18 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!attbi_s02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12823 On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:18:14 GMT, "ShadowWolf" wrote: >For your information: >One singular attunement which fully empowered the receiver (regardless of >any previous experience or lack of) to the full Reiki empowerment (Reiki >Master/Teacher) was publically introduced back in 1993 by A. Joseph Sparti >{known as "Runnin Wolfe" than and ShadowWolf now}. >Following that I initiated the first Free Worldwide Distant Singular >Attunement to Reiki Master/Teacher and have provided free attunements to the >same on a monthly basic since about 1996/97. > >At the time the above was not very well received by the other Reiki Masters >as you can well imagine if you are aware of the structure of Reiki teaching >back than. > >However in spite of the objections (which were many) I have never deviated >from my teachings and today there are hundreds of other reiki Master >teachers who are copying what I introduced. > >I have also taught that attunements do not come from the Reiki Teacher but >from within the receiver themselves. The Power lies within the Self and is >the acceptance or acknowledgement of a higher Power. It's interesting that others would object, but I suppose even lightworkers have security issues at times... The power of self is strong, if not then Dr. Usui would never have found what he did, yes? --- http://seven.postmodern.com seven at post modern dot com +add+ the word "newsgroup" to subject line for a quick response. ###### Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream From: Sean White References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> Organization: Your Company Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp149-68.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net Date: 15 Jan 2004 16:27:42 +1050 X-Trace: duster.adelaide.on.net 1074146262 ppp149-68.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net (15 Jan 2004 16:27:42 +1050) Lines: 70 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!news.xtra.co.nz!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12828 Hi ShadowWolf, your point about Reiki not being derived from the teacher, but from the reciever themselves is very interesting. From my experience, there seems to be two different types of initiations - one in which the attunenment is indeed connected to the teacher, and another in which the person has their own direct access. (In my subjective opinion) Reiki nowadays has had an infusion of new energy and power because of the contribution of Seichim/Sekhem/skhm, and all of it's energetic deriratives eg - Terra Mai, Karuna Reiki, Sai Baba Reiki etc, all of which derived from an initiation and attunmement method that does not establish a link to the teacher. However, the Reiki of Takata and her line appears to very much have a distinct connection to the teacher. I imagine that intent had a great deal to do with this occuring. In some cases, I've observed student teachers getting sick and very seriously ill because of the energetic connection to their teachers. When the teacher gets ill, the students get sick or they go crazy. Some of them have a reduction in the amount of energy that they can channel when their teacher is sick - their ability can be reduced depending on their teacher's ability, and likewise increased. Sean seven wrote in news:e0lb001ks7q9d8590n1i285jm3buu7ih9j@4ax.com: > On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:18:14 GMT, "ShadowWolf" wrote: > >>For your information: >>One singular attunement which fully empowered the receiver (regardless >>of any previous experience or lack of) to the full Reiki empowerment >>(Reiki Master/Teacher) was publically introduced back in 1993 by A. >>Joseph Sparti {known as "Runnin Wolfe" than and ShadowWolf now}. >>Following that I initiated the first Free Worldwide Distant Singular >>Attunement to Reiki Master/Teacher and have provided free attunements >>to the same on a monthly basic since about 1996/97. >> >>At the time the above was not very well received by the other Reiki >>Masters as you can well imagine if you are aware of the structure of >>Reiki teaching back than. >> >>However in spite of the objections (which were many) I have never >>deviated from my teachings and today there are hundreds of other reiki >>Master teachers who are copying what I introduced. >> >>I have also taught that attunements do not come from the Reiki >>Teacher but from within the receiver themselves. The Power lies within >>the Self and is the acceptance or acknowledgement of a higher Power. > > It's interesting that others would object, but I suppose even > lightworkers have security issues at times... > > The power of self is strong, if not then Dr. Usui would never have > found what he did, yes? > > > > --- > http://seven.postmodern.com > seven at post modern dot com > +add+ the word "newsgroup" to subject line for a quick response. > ###### From: seven Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Organization: http://seven.postmodern.com Message-ID: References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.169.57.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s52 1074149804 67.169.57.204 (Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:56:44 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:56:44 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:56:44 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!attbi_s52.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12829 On 15 Jan 2004 16:27:42 +1050, Sean White wrote: > >However, the Reiki of Takata and her line appears to very much have a >distinct connection to the teacher. I imagine that intent had a great >deal to do with this occuring. I know when I took my first attunement, I had visual flashing of symbols in my mind's eye, symbols I had not at that time studied or been exposed to - but now know as the cho-ku-rei, sei-he-ki, and also the hon sha ze sho nen. My teacher suggested it was a past life memory, and it could have been - or it could have just been an intutitive leap, since reiki transcends time itself. --- http://seven.postmodern.com seven at post modern dot com +add+ the word "newsgroup" to subject line for a quick response. ###### Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream From: Sean White References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> Organization: Your Company Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp149-68.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net Date: 15 Jan 2004 19:06:02 +1050 X-Trace: duster.adelaide.on.net 1074155762 ppp149-68.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net (15 Jan 2004 19:06:02 +1050) Lines: 34 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12831 Perhaps you may have been reading the symbols from your aura also. Sean seven wrote in news:kndc0098s2ap8slg30ssli9rq45gpbhqdm@4ax.com: > On 15 Jan 2004 16:27:42 +1050, Sean White wrote: > >> >>However, the Reiki of Takata and her line appears to very much have a >>distinct connection to the teacher. I imagine that intent had a great >>deal to do with this occuring. > > I know when I took my first attunement, I had visual flashing of > symbols in my mind's eye, symbols I had not at that time studied or > been exposed to - but now know as the cho-ku-rei, sei-he-ki, and also > the hon sha ze sho nen. > > My teacher suggested it was a past life memory, and it could have been > - or it could have just been an intutitive leap, since reiki > transcends time itself. > > > > --- > http://seven.postmodern.com > seven at post modern dot com > +add+ the word "newsgroup" to subject line for a quick response. > ###### From: montane Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:36:27 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-375.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) trialware Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12832 On 15 Jan 2004 16:27:42 +1050, Sean White wrote: >Hi ShadowWolf, > your point about Reiki not being derived from the teacher, but >from the reciever themselves is very interesting. From my experience, >there seems to be two different types of initiations - one in which the >attunenment is indeed connected to the teacher, and another in which the >person has their own direct access. > > >However, the Reiki of Takata and her line appears to very much have a >distinct connection to the teacher. I imagine that intent had a great >deal to do with this occuring. > I hope it does not confuse the main issue here to add the traditional Buddhist view of vow and attunement, since Usui seems to have lived and died in the context of the Buddhist traditions. The various schools of Buddhism essentially date back about 2500 years, but yoga is an older tradition in India. To the meditative yoga practices, Buddhism added its own rejection of Brahmanic & caste traditions, and added specific ethical ideas and philosophical concepts. One idea that has run through Buddhism all through the centuries is the efficacy of the vow of a Great Being (a Buddha or Bodhisattva) -- the idea is that the vow has a spiritual momentum to it. We can bring to mind the image of a wheel (bike, car, etc) that, having been given a shove, is rolling freely along the ground. The vow (or intent) of such a person is sort of like that wheel. Buddha's action in the world is regarded as a force in motion, an intent for the salvation of human beings. Maybe we can see this principle in Usui's life. He and his successors had *an intent* for the benefit of those whom they could teach face-to-face, but probably also those whom they would never meet in the flesh. Sure, we each have an inate capacity for healing, but the current gets us moving in this particular river. Thus the "gassho" (gratitude & recognition) factor in Asian-style Reiki, and Buddhism in general. montane ###### From: seven Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Organization: http://seven.postmodern.com Message-ID: References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.169.57.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s53 1074198219 67.169.57.204 (Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:23:39 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:23:39 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:23:39 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!attbi_s53.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12837 On 15 Jan 2004 19:06:02 +1050, Sean White wrote: >Perhaps you may have been reading the symbols from your aura also. > >Sean > Interesting. Yes - perhaps... I had not considered that. --- http://seven.postmodern.com seven at post modern dot com +add+ the word "newsgroup" to subject line for a quick response. ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:19:37 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: <40073ba6.1724664@news.Individual.NET> References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37ka1pk.dialup.mindspring.com (207.69.7.52) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1074215716 15384319 207.69.7.52 ([218672]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!user-37ka1pk.dialup.mindspring.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12845 On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:36:27 -0800, montane wrote: >On 15 Jan 2004 16:27:42 +1050, Sean White wrote: > >>Hi ShadowWolf, >> your point about Reiki not being derived from the teacher, but >>from the reciever themselves is very interesting. From my experience, >>there seems to be two different types of initiations - one in which the >>attunenment is indeed connected to the teacher, and another in which the >>person has their own direct access. >> > >> >>However, the Reiki of Takata and her line appears to very much have a >>distinct connection to the teacher. I imagine that intent had a great >>deal to do with this occuring. >> > >I hope it does not confuse the main issue here to add the traditional >Buddhist view of vow and attunement, since Usui seems to have lived >and died in the context of the Buddhist traditions. The various Just (not) to confuse things worse--doesn't current research or thinking seem to indicate that it was Hayashi that actually came up with the first attunement set, and that Usui always used reiju? I could be wrong, of course. Just thought I would toss that in to see what sort of trouble I could cause. :-) Garry ###### From: montane Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: New year Reiki related dream Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:47:51 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <3ff438dc$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <40073ba6.1724664@news.Individual.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-822.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) trialware Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:12850 On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:19:37 GMT, gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) wrote: > >Just (not) to confuse things worse--doesn't current research or >thinking seem to indicate that it was Hayashi that actually came up >with the first attunement set, and that Usui always used reiju? I >could be wrong, of course. Just thought I would toss that in to see >what sort of trouble I could cause. :-) > >Garry Would Usui's reiju carry the intent? I think it's plausible. And if it did, then maybe "reiju" and "attunement" amount to about the same thing. I believe a Buddhist view would be that the general intent for humanity is carried by the vehicle of Buddhism, and this intent is carried by the varied traditions that nurtured Usui. And the intent of Gautama Buddha, plus the intents of all the tradition carriers, are further present in both the general intent of Usui (for humanity) and in the specific intent that might be embodied in the reiju he might give for a specific person. The philosophy of the Mahayana form of Buddhism conceives of a general intent for humanity, or "for all sentient beings." Both Buddha and those who followed in his footsteps are seen as sources of this intent -- the turning wheel. m / J.