Reply-To: "Steven Buck, CMT" From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Self Administered Reiki Lines: 49 Organization: http://www.metareiki.org X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.116.151.230 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr29.news.prodigy.com 1070661721 ST000 67.116.151.230 (Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:02:01 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:02:01 EST X-UserInfo1: TSU[@SBEFZVYR_LX]BCBNWX@RJ_XPDLMN@GZ_GYO^JWTEPIB_NVUAH_[BL[\IRKIANGGJBFNJF_DOLSCENSY^U@FRFUEXR@KFXYDBPWBCDQJA@X_DCBHXR[C@\EOKCJLED_SZ@RMWYXYWE_P@\\GOIW^@SYFFSWHFIXMADO@^[ADPRPETLBJ]RDGENSKQQZN Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:02:01 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!news.primus.ca!news.primus.ca!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr29.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11622 This week was particularly difficult for myself. It began Sunday night when there was a problem with heat in my sleeping quarters. Anytime my body experiences an abrupt change of temperature and remains in a cold environment for an unspecified period of time, I get a cold. Unfortunately the heat went out Sunday night and Monday morning I was awakened by the wet and rainy cold weather of San Francisco. By Tuesday I realized something was wrong, and by Wednesday I had severe body aches, sore throat, uncontrollable nasal drip, and heavy chest congestion. I left work early on Wednesday and tucked myself into bed by 2 p.m., only to emerge at 6 a.m. the next day (no better off than when I entered). Thursday was just plain hell. The joints in my toes were screaming in agony. Even anti-histamines did not stop that horrid nasal drip; it was that bad. Thursday evening I had enough of that crap. My body had not healed whatever was offsetting my metabolism, medications were giving me no relief, so it was time for drastic measures: Reiki. I took a liter of bottled spring water, lay on the bed, rest it on my heart and held it with both of my hands. "Reiki," was the only thing I thought. The energy flowed. Five minutes later there was an immediate difference in the way my body felt, but congestion drainage caused me to stop channeling. After clearing the congestion I returned to the bed, hydrated myself with the newly Reiki'd water, turned out the lights, tuned into the Reiki energy, and allowed it to carry me into a sleep full of visions. This morning the sore throat was completely gone. No body aches. No fatigue. Congestion was minimal this morning and as of this afternoon is completely gone. -- ===== Who's Who on AHR? Visit www.ahr-reiki.org to find out! ===== Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA Website: www.metareiki.org ===== ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:48 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: public2-bolt3-3-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.91) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1070664512 72308619 80.2.124.91 ([41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!public2-bolt3-3-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11623 (Steven Buck, CMT) wrote: > "Reiki," was the only thing I thought. > > The energy flowed. > > Five minutes later there was an immediate difference in the way my body > felt, but congestion drainage caused me to stop channeling. After > clearing the congestion I returned to the bed, hydrated myself with > the newly Reiki'd water, turned out the lights, tuned into the > Reiki energy, and allowed it to carry me into a sleep full of visions. > > This morning the sore throat was completely gone. No body aches. No > fatigue. Congestion was minimal this morning and as of this afternoon > is completely gone. Nice one Steven ... and you didn't even have to get up for a pee with all that rehydration ... ;) By contrast, I actually prefer cold [not rain & wind] environments to cloying, over-heated ones (unless, of course, it's trunks, pool, sand and dry heat) .. Stuart ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 20:49:00 -0600 From: "Bob_reikipower" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Followup-To: poster References: Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:51:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Lines: 67 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.109.8 X-Trace: sv3-GLwBug9rauJe6EzK/5AAkz4y4UM7HaY1gG+Wcu/aNpU7z2UJ3uAdDFkrWEAT3Th1irfxlczzHpfpoF6!VkkZnn5ocC0tHe+hSLJ5DEaXvw59fECizADQjgYHANEtzyz75C2zkx/HGncJ X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!38.119.100.83.MISMATCH!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11644 Way to go!!! Bob Roffman MS, RP "Steven Buck, CMT" wrote in message news:tf7Ab.33054$Rj1.21004@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com... > This week was particularly difficult for myself. It began Sunday night when > there was a problem with heat in my sleeping quarters. Anytime my body > experiences an abrupt change of temperature and remains in a cold > environment for an unspecified period of time, I get a cold. Unfortunately > the heat went out Sunday night and Monday morning I was awakened by the wet > and rainy cold weather of San Francisco. By Tuesday I realized something > was wrong, and by Wednesday I had severe body aches, sore throat, > uncontrollable nasal drip, and heavy chest congestion. I left work early on > Wednesday and tucked myself into bed by 2 p.m., only to emerge at 6 a.m. the > next day (no better off than when I entered). > > Thursday was just plain hell. The joints in my toes were screaming in > agony. Even anti-histamines did not stop that horrid nasal drip; it was > that bad. > > Thursday evening I had enough of that crap. My body had not healed whatever > was offsetting my metabolism, medications were giving me no relief, so it > was time for drastic measures: Reiki. > > I took a liter of bottled spring water, lay on the bed, rest it on my heart > and held it with both of my hands. > > "Reiki," was the only thing I thought. > > The energy flowed. > > Five minutes later there was an immediate difference in the way my body > felt, but congestion drainage caused me to stop channeling. After clearing > the congestion I returned to the bed, hydrated myself with the newly Reiki'd > water, turned out the lights, tuned into the Reiki energy, and allowed it to > carry me into a sleep full of visions. > > This morning the sore throat was completely gone. No body aches. No > fatigue. Congestion was minimal this morning and as of this afternoon is > completely gone. > > -- > ===== > Who's Who on AHR? Visit > www.ahr-reiki.org to find out! > ===== > > Steven Buck, CMT > San Francisco, CA > Website: www.metareiki.org > ===== > > > ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3fd14ae8.5042114@news.west.earthlink.net> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 8 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 03:16:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.69.13.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1070680582 207.69.13.129 (Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:16:22 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:16:22 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!cox.net!news-xfer.cox.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!7510546c!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11647 Excellent, Steven! Thanks for sharing-it helps give confidence to those with less experience. Love and Light, Garry ###### Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:45:12 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.102.24 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.102.24 Message-ID: <3fd19713$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1070700307 81.62.102.24 (6 Dec 2003 09:45:07 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 13 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11651 Well the the staring point to your problems should have been Reiki first and not the last rescue solution I am surprised of you Steven! Theo Steven Buck, CMT wrote: > This week was particularly difficult for myself. -SNIP_ > This morning the sore throat was completely gone. No body aches. No > fatigue. Congestion was minimal this morning and as of this afternoon is > completely gone. > ###### Reply-To: "Steven Buck, CMT" From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3fd19713$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Lines: 37 Organization: http://www.metareiki.org X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.116.151.230 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr29.news.prodigy.com 1070731350 ST000 67.116.151.230 (Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:22:30 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:22:30 EST X-UserInfo1: [[PA@SBEFZVYR_LX]BCBNWX@RJ_XPDLMN@GZ_GYO^BTBTSUBYFWEAE[YJLYPIWKHTFCMZKVMB^[Z^DOBRVVMOSPFHNSYXVDIE@X\BUC@GTSX@DL^GKFFHQCCE\G[JJBMYDYIJCZM@AY]GNGPJD]YNNW\GSX^GSCKHA[]@CCB\[@LATPD\L@J\\PF]VR[QPJN Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:22:30 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!38.119.100.83.MISMATCH!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!in.nntp.be!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr29.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e700f050!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11658 I suppose you are right. A part of me had convinced myself that since I'm actively channeling, direct hands-on, throughout the day, enough was flowing through me so that self administeration was not necessary. Apparently I was wrong. Applying Reiki to drinking water will become a nice nightly ritual. -- ===== Who's Who on AHR? Visit www.ahr-reiki.org to find out! ===== Steven Buck, CMT San Francisco, CA Website: www.metareiki.org ===== "Theo" wrote in message news:3fd19713$1_3@news.bluewin.ch... > Well the the staring point to your problems should have been Reiki > first and not the last rescue solution > I am surprised of you Steven! > Theo > > Steven Buck, CMT wrote: > > > This week was particularly difficult for myself. -SNIP_ > > This morning the sore throat was completely gone. No body aches. No > > fatigue. Congestion was minimal this morning and as of this afternoon is > > completely gone. > > > ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:38 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: public2-bolt3-3-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.91) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1070732317 74118242 80.2.124.91 ([41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!public2-bolt3-3-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11659 (Steven Buck, CMT) wrote: > A part of me had convinced myself that since I'm > actively channeling, direct hands-on, throughout > the day, enough was flowing> through me so that > self administeration was not necessary. > Apparently I was wrong. A certain Roger once of this parish used to insist that "THE ONLY PERSON YOU CAN HEAL IS YOURSELF!!!" Stuart ###### Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:53:56 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.102.24 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.102.24 Message-ID: <3fd225bd_1@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1070736829 81.62.102.24 (6 Dec 2003 19:53:49 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 26 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11662 Stuart Vernon wrote: > (Steven Buck, CMT) wrote: > > >>A part of me had convinced myself that since I'm >>actively channeling, direct hands-on, throughout >>the day, enough was flowing> through me so that >>self administeration was not necessary. >>Apparently I was wrong. > > > A certain Roger once of this parish used to insist > that "THE ONLY PERSON YOU CAN HEAL IS YOURSELF!!!" well it is already a great staring point! theo > > > > Stuart > ###### From: Judy Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:08:04 +0000 Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rigbys.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1070737699 29633 194.222.30.223 (6 Dec 2003 19:08:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:08:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!rigbys.demon.co.uk!judy.rigby Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11663 Stuart Vernon writes > >A certain Roger once of this parish used to insist >that "THE ONLY PERSON YOU CAN HEAL IS YOURSELF!!!" I reckon he's right at that. When it comes to "others", what we can do is to support that process on every level ... providing conditions of physical comfort, saying appropriate things (or better yet knowing when to keep quiet) & so on. None of which is to be underestimated. But what follows from that is entirely between themselves & the powers that guide them. -- Judy ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:50 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: public2-bolt3-3-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.91) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1070740248 73694552 80.2.124.91 ([41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!public2-bolt3-3-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11664 (Judy) wrote: > Stuart Vernon writes > > >A certain Roger once of this parish used to insist > >that "THE ONLY PERSON YOU CAN HEAL IS YOURSELF!!!" > > I reckon he's right at that. When it comes to "others", what we can do > is to support that process on every level ... providing conditions of > physical comfort, saying appropriate things (or better yet knowing when > to keep quiet) & so on. None of which is to be underestimated. But what > follows from that is entirely between themselves & the powers that guide > them. Mmmmmm indeed yes ... not "healers" but "catalysts" and "facilitators" .. Stuart ###### From: Judy Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:05:43 +0000 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rigbys.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1070741154 4370 194.222.30.223 (6 Dec 2003 20:05:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:05:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!rigbys.demon.co.uk!judy.rigby Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11665 Stuart Vernon writes > > >Mmmmmm indeed yes ... not "healers" but "catalysts" and "facilitators" .. > And time for one from the ahr archives ... In February 2000, Marie O:-) wrote: An exceptionally intelligent couple felt it important to own an equally intelligent pet. So, they went shopping... At a kennel specializing in this particular breed, they found a dog they liked quite a lot. When they asked the dog to fetch the encyclopaedia, he did it in a flash. Then they instructed him to look up thermonuclear dynamics and he complied equally fast, using his paws with dexterity. They were impressed, purchased the animal, and went home. That night they had friends over. They were so proud of their new super intelligent dog and his major skill, they called the dog to show off a little. The friends were impressed, and asked whether the dog was able to do any of the usual dog tricks as well. This stopped the couple cold, as they hadn't thought about "normal" tricks. "Well," they said, "let's try it out." Once more they called the dog, and they clearly pronounced the command, "HEEL." Quick as a wink the dog jumped up, put his paw on the man's forehead, closed his eyes in concentration, and bowed his head .... -- Judy http://www.rigbys.demon.co.uk ###### From: Roger@reborn.net Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Reply-To: Roger@reborn.net Message-ID: <3fd243e4.3022608@news.west.earthlink.net> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 12 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:59:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.69.2.185 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1070744365 207.69.2.185 (Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:59:25 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:59:25 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!7510546c!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11667 On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:38 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) wrote: >A certain Roger once of this parish used to insist >that "THE ONLY PERSON YOU CAN HEAL IS YOURSELF!!!" > > You makin' fun of me, Stu? Speak of the Devil and watch him appear! Roger ###### From: bigsam89@msn.com (Sami) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: 6 Dec 2003 17:36:23 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 9 Message-ID: <459f0ffb.0312061736.60359e7e@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.157.16.133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1070760983 31716 127.0.0.1 (7 Dec 2003 01:36:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 01:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11674 Thank you so very much for the reminder! I am a massage therapist and Reiki practioner who has recently been plagued with too many commitments and a serious lack of care for myself, resulting in several maladies. We "have not because we ask not" is still true. Yesterday while administering Reiki to my young child who has an ear infection, I thought, I should do this for my back. Isn't it amazing how the lights come on when we have the presence of mind to 'flip the switch' ? Thanks again! Best of Health! ###### Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 08:46:40 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki References: <459f0ffb.0312061736.60359e7e@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: <459f0ffb.0312061736.60359e7e@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.0.3 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.0.3 Message-ID: <3fd2dad5_2@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1070783189 62.203.0.3 (7 Dec 2003 08:46:29 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 17 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11678 What amezes me is that I DO give Reiki to myself for whatever bobo I have and almost never forget people I decided to send reiki as they need it ,BUT constantly FORGET to give it to my food to my bonsais .... Theo Sami wrote: > Thank you so very much for the reminder! I am a massage therapist and > Reiki practioner who has recently been plagued with too many > commitments and a serious lack of care for myself, resulting in > several maladies. We "have not because we ask not" is still true. > Yesterday while administering Reiki to my young child who has an ear > infection, I thought, I should do this for my back. Isn't it amazing > how the lights come on when we have the presence of mind to 'flip the > switch' ? Thanks again! > Best of Health! ###### From: bigsam89@msn.com (Sami) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: 7 Dec 2003 17:21:11 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: <459f0ffb.0312071721.2c50339b@posting.google.com> References: <3fd243e4.3022608@news.west.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.157.16.39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1070846472 24929 127.0.0.1 (8 Dec 2003 01:21:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!eusc.inter.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11691 Here's a question for anyone/everyone: How do you explain Reiki to people who are unfamaliar with it? What do you think of the metaphor of comparing it to 'faith healing' or 'laying on of hands'? I'm truly interested in others opinions and experiences with the question. To whomever answers, thanks so much for your time and thoughts. Health and Healing to All :) ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:34:38 -0600 From: "gargoyle" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3fd243e4.3022608@news.west.earthlink.net> <459f0ffb.0312071721.2c50339b@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:34:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.50.179.234 X-Trace: sv3-vqLGWvODQ5YIpZz+xJ1qTlwaG40qihnVqiXfhh5xIEcLsPdQNakqqvxkDPwV6ujEvEd/r4UlPQ2qFty!1L+sVzAF97teZtCwff2lWG3lPQUWe2zE/Or6TcD6qrR5A7XpTzMG5/ywUik5jUtIYpVMenIUbQhn X-Complaints-To: abuse@karoo.kcom.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@karoo.kcom.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.karoo.co.uk!news.karoo.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11700 Hi Sami,..well if a person is totally unfamiliar with reiki I do say that it compares with,but is not exactly the same as, faith healing,only that no faith whatsoever is required,if that does not quench their thirst I would direct them to one of the web sites often mentioned on ahr or even print them off an article if they do not have access to the internet. Greg -- to e-mail> remove brains and get back to me. "Sami" wrote in message news:459f0ffb.0312071721.2c50339b@posting.google.com... > Here's a question for anyone/everyone: How do you explain Reiki to > people who are unfamaliar with it? What do you think of the metaphor > of comparing it to 'faith healing' or 'laying on of hands'? I'm truly > interested in others opinions and experiences with the question. > > To whomever answers, thanks so much for your time and thoughts. > > Health and Healing to All :) ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:46:52 -0600 From: "Peterz" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <459f0ffb.0312061736.60359e7e@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:43:54 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.26.170.196 X-Trace: sv3-HZsxFsMru0qtExWh6VfH/qOGChSE9aPqCq1iSGYPOELeUhli0HtrHh36xg2k/2ShSmfu39YWUus3DwM!764GcTKJlbHDwsB74y12Ch/9X6sTKMHPKK/fDhgRaq2rDbi0t6PkORMP535KQURraovqVkdnUQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@magma.ca X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@magma.ca X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!216.166.71.118.MISMATCH!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.magma.ca!news.magma.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11703 We are the shoemaker's children! Peter "Sami" wrote in message news:459f0ffb.0312061736.60359e7e@posting.google.com... > Thank you so very much for the reminder! I am a massage therapist and > Reiki practioner who has recently been plagued with too many > commitments and a serious lack of care for myself, resulting in > several maladies. We "have not because we ask not" is still true. > Yesterday while administering Reiki to my young child who has an ear > infection, I thought, I should do this for my back. Isn't it amazing > how the lights come on when we have the presence of mind to 'flip the > switch' ? Thanks again! > Best of Health! ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:49:05 -0600 From: "Peterz" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3fd243e4.3022608@news.west.earthlink.net> <459f0ffb.0312071721.2c50339b@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:46:07 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.26.170.196 X-Trace: sv3-MyR/HYjygZsCntL1FAuj4IH6fbxR9SJ6RkTNiJAUlZkMjMJOL5JxgKWyQLvEK8Z7ZJD9xCzpIbVy2YD!XKzr4gPI6Q4OOFrHpAPD05D49VbJ2zjYxt8FYjG1XV2nC7cCNzCN9OomDCCmO/XgsLSHT1GfKA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@magma.ca X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@magma.ca X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!63.218.45.10.MISMATCH!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.magma.ca!news.magma.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11704 What I say is that I enter a healing mediation, and through gentle touch, so do you... seems to have an intuitive resonance with people as well as being true. Peterz www.onreiki.com "Sami" wrote in message news:459f0ffb.0312071721.2c50339b@posting.google.com... > Here's a question for anyone/everyone: How do you explain Reiki to > people who are unfamaliar with it? What do you think of the metaphor > of comparing it to 'faith healing' or 'laying on of hands'? I'm truly > interested in others opinions and experiences with the question. > > To whomever answers, thanks so much for your time and thoughts. > > Health and Healing to All :) ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: OT: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:32 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: public2-bolt3-3-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.91) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1070919274 74719934 80.2.124.91 ([41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!public2-bolt3-3-cust91.manc.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11708 (Peterz) wrote: > We are the shoemaker's children! Cobblers! ... ;) Stuart ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:50:42 -0600 From: "gargoyle" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: Subject: Re: Re: Self Administered Reiki Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:50:36 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.50.176.200 X-Trace: sv3-92gT5vQ0E9steeuBxpBbz8c0qVDXCHSZf6wPv7uMFMiST+9b1tD80Zp4zWX3aTOJ9ZNloACwJgZbd3Z!7MR8NiivdDlxDCbi+MVMS/zobUkgEJcsLOdCAxG5GcgkkvdVY0LD+2mf0QsIC1jvqR1u4t5cS8NQ X-Complaints-To: abuse@karoo.kcom.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@karoo.kcom.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.karoo.co.uk!news.karoo.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11719 "Stuart Vernon" wrote in message news:memo.20031208213255.1216G@stuv.compulink.co.uk... > (Peterz) wrote: > > > We are the shoemaker's children! > > Cobblers! ... ;) > > Stuart > And Bollocks to you mate! ; ) ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3fd7d363.2467179@news.west.earthlink.net> References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <849578472fd2c19e6e3394f088aa2183@news.teranews.com> <3fd46c4d.7343097@news.west.earthlink.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 193 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 03:10:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.69.12.25 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1071112206 207.69.12.25 (Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:10:06 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:10:06 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!news.primus.ca!news.primus.ca!cox.net!news-xfer.cox.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!7510546c!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11743 On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 04:12:17 GMT, "arthealer" wrote: >> >> Of course, sometimes a problem is a physical issue, like, say, a >> >> broken bone. Maybe we broke it just so we could get sympathy to feed >> >> our sense of ego, but once broken, someone has to physically reset the >> >> bone and put it in a cast before it can heal properly >> > >> > One either believes in ones inherent power to heal or not. One either >> >believes that only the most benificial things happen or not. The middle >> >ground you speak of brings minimal results. >> >> One either believes dropped items fall to the ground instead of up >> into the sky, or not. >>However, changing one's beliefs on the matter >> doesn't change the way things fall. > > Garry, we are talking about healing not gravity. . . .besides, things on a And you are certain that there are no connections or similarities between the two? >sub atomic level are affected by our observance. The 'rules' keep changing >don't they, as what we believe changes. Of course. But let me give you an example of "rule changing". Prior to Einstein and his cohorts, physical interactions were believed to be covered by Newton's laws. We could use those formulas to calculate how much force was needed for a baseball bat to strike a baseball to bring it up to a given speed travelling in a given direction and covering a given distance. Well, along came Michelson-Morely and Einstein and others and showed that the Newtonian view wasn't correct in some areas, and now we know that as you approach a significant fraction of the speed of light, things get shorter in the direction of travel, time slows down for the thing travelling fast, and it's all relative to who's doing the travelling and the frame of reference it's being compared to, etc, etc. Yet none of this changes even a tiny whit the usefulness of the Newtonian mechanics for calculating the trajectory of the baseball in normal sports situations. The formula is good in all the situations it was previously applied to, and only became useless when applied to previously unimagined situations, like travel at speeds approaching the speed of light. What does this have to do with healing? It looks to me exactly like your situation of saying that you can use belief to move the broken bone that's out of position back to its proper position so that healing can begin. Your belief is like Einsteinian physics, it applies in previously unexplored areas, and *should* be able to get the same results that previous experience, like Newtonian physics, gets in previously well-explored areas. However, if you insist on calling realistic observation self-limiting failure, I don't see how we can come to a meeting of minds? >>Or can you flap your arms and fly, >> just because you believe you can? :-) > >Yes, but it is more like creative falling:) You see my point, even if you fail to acknowledge it outright. :-) >> I find that what brings minimal >> results is not making use of the power of observation. As a famous >> restaurant chain says, there are no rules, just right. ;-) >> >> Speaking of observations, it appears to me that you have a tendancy to >> think in dualistic terms. Yes/no, right/wrong, succeed/fail. There are >> ever only two options. You might want to expand your repertoire. Or >> you might not. Think about it! ;-) > >Well, if i believed in failure you might have a point, however, all those >options you speak of may not be benificial . . . so why concern yourself >with them. In healing, maybe so and maybe not isn't the mind set you want to >adopt. We create our own reality, and knowing this, it is best to create >what is benificial, no? Hmmm, I would say, we create our own *interpretation* of reality, based on senses that can't be trusted, and trying to see patterns in bad data that may not have any pattern. Yet I will be happy. :-) >> >> and overcoming >> >> ego isn't going to reset the bone >> > >> >How do you know? >> >> When you break a leg, can you just believe the pieces into moving >> around to the right position > >yes, of course. Do you doubt and limit the healing power of 'reiki'? >(assuming of course that the same healing power is imployed by everyone >reguardless of the name we attach to it.) You know I'm going to have to ask you for your sources, don't you? I'll need evidence of this having happened. :-) As for Reiki, I know what it's done for me and for others in the past, and feel certain it will be found useful in other situations in the future. I don't feel a need to say "halleluja, brother, I believe!" because experience shows that Reiki doesn't need my belief in order to be effective. >> or does someone actually have to pick >> them up and move them to the right position first? I go with having >> someone moving them to the right position, and *then* using one's >> innate healing abilities to speed the reknitting of the bone. This >> seems to take the least amount of time. YMMV :-) > > bones seem to be the popular example around here. Actually,according to the >people that participate here, *after* one goes to the doctor seems the be at >the top of the list for what reiki can help. Bones are popular because we like to pick bones, perhaps? ;-) And actually, we recommend Reiki before, after, and during seeing the doctor. And there are even situations where doctors might not be needed or wanted. >> Why does it bother you to think that someone can help facilitate your >> healing? >> >>and put on the cast, you have to go >> >> to the doctor for that. > >When a person deals with their own illness there is a responsibility for how >one got there to begin with. Things are learned that are missed otherwise. I see, and asking for help is shirking their responsibility? I don't think so! I would call asking to have a broken bone set and put into a cast taking responsibility for their healing, at least the physical aspects of it. As for why they have a broken leg in the first place, they can think about that whether they go to a doctor or not. So why do you urge the inhumane choice upon them? >Why does it bother you to believe the healing force is there for you to >employ? Speed of healing really isn't the issue. . . . profound healing is. You like to put words in my mouth, don't you? Would I be practicing Reiki and participating in AHR if I didn't believe the healing force was there to employ? And BTW, I wouldn't call having a crooked bone from lack of having it set properly before allowing it to heal "profound healing." But maybe you would. Guess we need to define what is meant by healing? >> >may not need one after the ego is delt with. >> >> How so? Example, please? > > Garry, i thought you believed things always worked out for the best! Believing things work out for the best does not absolve us of taking responsibility for our own healing, as you yourself have noted. >Healing may not be what you believe it to be. When the cause of disease is >being delt with, holisticly, things simply begin to fall into place.. .. >healing occures. Just as when one faithfully takes up the 5 precepts of >reiki, healing begins to occure from the inside out as all healing does. >When i was diagnosed with degenerative spinal condition i began to correct >the internal cause of the external manifestation and it immediately began to >heal. Part of the reason it began to heal was because* i * took >responsibility for the healing process. . and didn't let the doctors do a >spinal fussion. As you know, things respond to intention. And I have no problem with understanding or believing this. However, if you told me that your spine had been cut clean in two and the ends twisted in opposite directions, and you told the doctors to stand back while you took responsibility for your own healing and simply "believed" the two pieces back into place, I would have to call your bluff. :-) >> Do you mean what I mean by the words "find a way to live with the >> condition"? I am talking about success. You are talking about failure. > >No, i am talking about the statement you made above,"it's never going to go >away completely". So you can believe a change in your genetic structure? And have that belief spread to the folks down at the gene testing lab? >It is an attitude i am talking about that i see in your writting.. . .so >confident in the limitations of 'healing energies'. Not at all. You are the one that thinks a "limitation" is a failure. Because apparently, you want to believe it is so. To me, in the situation of the genetic disease, it simply means that you may have to find a different way to approach your healing than a "normal" person would, ie no quick fixes. All I'm saying is this may have to involve a lifelong change, and of course, you need to be comfortable with that change, or you have failed to heal. Again, the change must come from within, not without. If your happiness depends on outside conditions, it is doomed to be temporary. Love and Light, Garry ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <849578472fd2c19e6e3394f088aa2183@news.teranews.com> Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki Lines: 45 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 04:28:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.84.196.140 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny01.gnilink.net 1071116891 162.84.196.140 (Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:28:11 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:28:11 EST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!38.119.100.83.MISMATCH!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny01.gnilink.net.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11748 > > Or if the physical issue is genetic in nature, > > it's never going to go away completely and you will have to find a way > > to live with the condition. > > have you tried and failed? this reminds me of something i read. i don't recall the name of it, but i read a book about teaching yoga to special needs children. the woman was already a yoga teacher, but became an expert on the topic when she had a child with down's syndrome and taught her yoga from a very young age. the little girl was an excellent yoga student and along with her typically developing sister she helped her mother teach and demonstrate yoga at classes and conferences. according to the mother's account the yoga helped the little girl progress in so many areas that children with down's syndrome normally have trouble in. one obvious one being her muscle tone, but she claimed that it also helped her cognitive development. it helped her with her self-esteem of course and it even helped her with the position of her tongue in her mouth. her mother stated that the little girl didn't even look like a child with down's syndrome after a while. looking at the many pictures of her i would agree that the stereotypical features of someone with down's syndrome were signitificantly less noticeable than in prior pictures and i don't think that i would have recognized her as a child with down syndrome on appearance alone. the mother wrote that little girl would frequently speak to people and comment "when i was down's" indicating that she no longer felt that she was a child with down's syndrome after a time. this little girl died when she about 13 years old, but the mother felt that she had completed the journey that she needed to (essentially her life's purpose). she said something to the effect that this little girl overcame her biggest challenges at a young age as some adults never do and that she was an inspiration to many. it was really touching. the little girl didn't change her genetic structure, but she transformed something. i thought it was a beautiful story. here i picked up the book thinking i would find tips for introducing yoga to my students and i ended up in tears over this totally personal and inspirational story! i wish i remembered the book. i am sorry that i don't. i will have to look it up. ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net> References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 28 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:14:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.69.4.44 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1071198878 207.69.4.44 (Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:14:38 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:14:38 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!7510546c!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11769 On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:41:57 GMT, "gingerobyn" wrote: > >> >> You may wish to try giving yourself Reiki just before bedtime, and >> during your routine, place the Harmony (2nd, or Mental/Emotional) >> symbol in your crown chakra and state your intent to give yourself >> permission for your unconscious self to communicate with your >> conscious self and let you understand why you have/are holding onto >> this recurring issue. Then get a good night's rest and see what >> develops. >> >> Love and Light, >> >> Garry > >i think i already know why. i don't utilize the harmony symbol enough >though, so i should try it. thanks. Ginger, just wondering if you ever got around to trying this, and if so, did it provide you with any insights? Love and Light, Garry ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki Lines: 33 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:20:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.83.231.7 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny01.gnilink.net 1071199246 162.83.231.7 (Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:20:46 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:20:46 EST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny01.gnilink.net.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11770 not yet. "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message news:3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net... > On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:41:57 GMT, "gingerobyn" > wrote: > > > > >> > >> You may wish to try giving yourself Reiki just before bedtime, and > >> during your routine, place the Harmony (2nd, or Mental/Emotional) > >> symbol in your crown chakra and state your intent to give yourself > >> permission for your unconscious self to communicate with your > >> conscious self and let you understand why you have/are holding onto > >> this recurring issue. Then get a good night's rest and see what > >> develops. > >> > >> Love and Light, > >> > >> Garry > > > >i think i already know why. i don't utilize the harmony symbol enough > >though, so i should try it. thanks. > > Ginger, just wondering if you ever got around to trying this, and if > so, did it provide you with any insights? > > Love and Light, > > Garry > > ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3fd939a9.6422185@news.west.earthlink.net> References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 9 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:42:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.69.4.44 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net 1071200523 207.69.4.44 (Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:42:03 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:42:03 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!7510546c!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11771 On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:20:46 GMT, "gingerobyn" wrote: >not yet. 'nuff said. :-) Garry ###### From: "pr" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <849578472fd2c19e6e3394f088aa2183@news.teranews.com> <3fd46c4d.7343097@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd7d363.2467179@news.west.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:59:10 +0200 Lines: 79 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: nld-dial-196-7-201-236.mweb.co.za Message-ID: <3fd93d44.0@news1.mweb.co.za> X-Trace: 12 Dec 2003 06:00:04 +0200, nld-dial-196-7-201-236.mweb.co.za Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!uunet.co.za!news1.mweb.co.za!nld-dial-196-7-201-236.mweb.co.za Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11772 "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message news:3fd7d363.2467179@news.west.earthlink.net... > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 04:12:17 GMT, "arthealer" > wrote: > > >Well, if i believed in failure you might have a point, however, all those > >options you speak of may not be benificial . . . so why concern yourself > >with them. In healing, maybe so and maybe not isn't the mind set you want to > >adopt. We create our own reality, and knowing this, it is best to create > >what is benificial, no? > > Hmmm, I would say, we create our own *interpretation* of reality, > based on senses that can't be trusted, and trying to see patterns in > bad data that may not have any pattern. Yet I will be happy. :-) Usually I would concur with you. However, some idle thinking had the thought coming up "what if we really create our own reality?" What is the difference between perception of it and the actuality of it? Or to ask it in another way, "what is meant by creating our own reality?" If we really do create it ourselves, then why do we all create a reality that is so much the same, get born, live, and die? Why are animals apparently the same? Do they create their own (consenus) reality too, and how do they achieve that, get consensus? But what about the accounts recorded in many scriptural texts form all over the world which apparently defy our normal consensus on what is possible and what is not? But one of the most intriguing option that comes out of creating our own reality is that if that is true then I must be included in this creation. IOW, I create myself, and if I do that then I can also "not create" myself. What would happen to the world and the rest of reality in such a case? Where does Reiki fit into all of this? I have no idea other than it may just be the "thing" which allows us to create, in whatever sense you want to take "create". There are people who say that there is a great "indaba" (meeting) by yourself and you spiritual guides before you get born. In that meeting tou figure out what you want to learn in your next incarnation and then select suitable conditions where such learning can happen. In such a way you would have chosen not only the social and environmental circumstances but also your genetic inheritance. You may be doubtful about this scenario but it brings up one more wonderful possibility. The question is about choices, circumstances and conditions, and how much say you had in them. What if the choice does not refer to to choices you made then, before you were born, but really refers to now? Right now you can chose to be content and happy with whatever conditions you have, or you can be discontent, wishing they were different. In a way it is taking responsibility for something you may not have had much control over it. It may be like an unexpected or even unwanted baby, it is here now and you better take good care of it. In a sense this is the concept of "duty" that exists in many religions. But we want freedom! We want to be free, certainly do not want to shackled by "duties" let alone imposed ones. However, once I accept it then from that point onwards, I can create instead of trying to dis-create my life. Maybe the idea of us trying discreate our reality continually, is a more useful and acceptable one than creating our reality. -- Namu Amida Butsu Peter Reber "Life knows its needs" ###### Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:42:27 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.12.151 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.12.151 Message-ID: <3fd99b91$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1071225745 81.62.12.151 (12 Dec 2003 11:42:25 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 42 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11774 gingerobyn wrote: > not yet. > "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message > news:3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net... > >>On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:41:57 GMT, "gingerobyn" >>wrote: >> >> >>>>You may wish to try giving yourself Reiki just before bedtime, and >>>>during your routine, place the Harmony (2nd, or Mental/Emotional) HI Garry SHK you mean? Theo >>>>symbol in your crown chakra and state your intent to give yourself >>>>permission for your unconscious self to communicate with your >>>>conscious self and let you understand why you have/are holding onto >>>>this recurring issue. Then get a good night's rest and see what >>>>develops. >>>> >>>>Love and Light, >>>> >>>>Garry >>> >>>i think i already know why. i don't utilize the harmony symbol enough >>>though, so i should try it. thanks. >> >>Ginger, just wondering if you ever got around to trying this, and if >>so, did it provide you with any insights? >> >>Love and Light, >> >>Garry >> >> > > > ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3fd9f0b7.516991@news.west.earthlink.net> References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd99b91$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 13 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:43:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.69.15.116 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1071247399 207.69.15.116 (Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:43:19 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:43:19 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!in.nntp.be!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!7510546c!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11777 On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:42:27 +0100, Theo wrote: >> "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message >> news:3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net... >>>>>You may wish to try giving yourself Reiki just before bedtime, and >>>>>during your routine, place the Harmony (2nd, or Mental/Emotional) >HI Garry > SHK you mean? Yes, Theo. Garry ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3fd9f198.741693@news.west.earthlink.net> References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <849578472fd2c19e6e3394f088aa2183@news.teranews.com> <3fd46c4d.7343097@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd7d363.2467179@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd93d44.0@news1.mweb.co.za> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 15 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:48:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.69.15.116 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1071247719 207.69.15.116 (Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:48:39 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:48:39 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!7510546c!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11778 On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:59:10 +0200, "pr" wrote: >However, once I accept it then from that point onwards, I can >create instead of trying to dis-create my life. Maybe the idea >of us trying discreate our reality continually, is a more useful >and acceptable one than creating our reality. You're really that O5 person that crossposts every now and then, right? Seriously, interesting points to ponder, Peter. I'll have to mull this one over a while. Garry ###### Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:28:07 +0100 From: Theo Reply-To: byjoke@bluewin.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Injuries and Reiki References: <3fcc8ba6.3022211@news.west.earthlink.net> <2o9zb.2620$t87.1873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <027609f5782965479a7cb2d6f9713ca7@news.teranews.com> <3fcd6891.1928917@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcda5c3$1_2@news.bluewin.ch> <3fcdd993.1040464@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fcf2565.951395@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd07703.1758602@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd93324.4753140@news.west.earthlink.net> <3fd99b91$1_3@news.bluewin.ch> <3fd9f0b7.516991@news.west.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3fd9f0b7.516991@news.west.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.12.151 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.62.12.151 Message-ID: <3fda08b4_2@news.bluewin.ch> X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1071253684 81.62.12.151 (12 Dec 2003 19:28:04 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 16 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:11780 Nadie Niemand wrote: Thanks Garry with all these nemes :-) THeo >>HI Garry >> SHK you mean? > > > Yes, Theo. > > Garry >