From: "Reiki Evolution" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:51:36 +0100 Lines: 117 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-62-64-203-152.access.uk.tiscali.com Message-ID: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> X-Trace: 1 Aug 2003 07:51:36 +0100, dial-62-64-203-152.access.uk.tiscali.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!luth.se!uio.no!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!dial-62-64-203-152.access.uk.tiscali.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8191 Hi, I thought some of you might be interested to read a new article I have written, so here it is, below the signature line... Taggart King, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk --------------------------------------------- Visit our Reiki Resource Centre! Free Reiki Guides, free quarterly eZine, extensive Reiki links and loads of Reiki articles to read. Downloadable manuals, audio CDs for meditation and learning, and a beautiful print of the Reiki precepts. --------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Mindfulness and Compassion ------------------------------- In this article I want to talk about Mindfulness and Compassion, which I believe are two essential components of Reiki practice. Whether we are treating others, working on ourselves, empowering others or living our lives with Reiki, we should grow to embody those two states, the essence of the Reiki precepts. According to Usui Sensei's surviving students, Mindfulness was taught at First-Degree level, and emphasised further at Second Degree. Mindfulness is a state of living in the moment, of being relaxed, calm and fully engaged in what we are doing. Mindfulness is being aware of what is happening right now and giving ourselves completely to our task without distraction. By learning how to enjoy and be in the present moment we can find peace within ourselves. I believe we are exhorted to achieve this state by the precepts, where "just for today" we release anger and worry. These are distractions. We don't dwell on the past and beat ourselves up for things that did not go the way we wanted, we do not think about the future and worry about things that have not yet happened. Our reality is illusion. We can learn to release our attachments to the past and the future and just "be" now, content and accepting in the moment. For me, the precepts both represent a goal to work towards, and a description of the effects that Reiki can produce within us, over time, if we work with the energy in a committed, dedicated way. The final precept, that of being "compassionate towards ourselves and others" is for me an exhortation to be gentle with ourselves, to be patient, to be light-hearted, to not take ourselves quite so seriously and above all to be forgiving - first of all of ourselves but also of others. By accepting and forgiving ourselves we start to release our anger and our worry, and move towards a state of contentment in the moment. The original system was a spiritual path, a path to enlightenment, and the precepts were what Usui Sensei's system was all about. These principles are a foundation for everything we do with Reiki; the states of mindfulness and compassion arise from following the precepts and from working with Reiki. For example, how do we feel when we carry out a Reiki treatment? Treating someone with Reiki is a special, special gift. We feel a closeness, an intimacy, a merging with the recipient; we receive trust and we experience compassion. Ideally we should just be there in the moment, with the energy, with the recipient, with no expectations. We do not treat someone with the intention to resolve their health problem or eliminate their headache. We just merge with the energy and allow Reiki to do its work. We create a sacred space for healing to occur. If our mind wanders, as it may do, then we notice this and gently but firmly bring our attention back to the present and what we are doing. We become one with the energy as it flows through us, we become one with the recipient, and we experience that blissful contentment in the moment. Though some are taught that you can hold a conversation with someone as you treat, or watch television at the same time, this really will not lead to the best being given to the recipient. To be the most effective channel we can be, we need to be there with the energy, fully and gently engaged in our work, giving ourselves fully to the task without distraction. Those same principles apply when working on ourselves, whether carrying out Hatsurei ho or self-treating. The state we should seek to achieve is that of being fully engaged in the endeavour, of being with the energy without distraction, merged, aware and simply existing in the moment, with a gentle feeling of forgiveness, love and compassion towards ourselves. So both Mindfulness and Compassion are fundamental to our life with Reiki, fundamental to the Reiki precepts, to working on others and working on ourselves. Not surprisingly they are also an essential component of the transmission of Reiki to another person through carrying out Reiju empowerments. Reiju is the 'connection ritual' that Usui Sensei used, and taught to his surviving students. It is simple, elegant and powerful, free from the clutter and detail that surrounds most Western attunement styles. When we perform Reiju we have no expectations: we are there in the moment with the energy, following the prescribed movements. We are relaxed and fully engaged in what we are doing, aware of what is happening right now, and we give ourselves completely to our task without distraction. That is the essence of Reiju, the essence of treatments, the essence of the precepts, and the essence of our life with Reiki. ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 12:30:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 12:32:23 -0500 From: Cameron User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030723 Thunderbird/0.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2a5780.5059001@news.west.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3f2a5780.5059001@news.west.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.81.227.203 X-Trace: sv3-tGDPy1l9t9zGrIXTa/5VAMDaXQjEQ/f/zqyyJqcXY3QGNP/t80oBELkn98tOGzzlexr7IjZm8/05Gvt!XrxwrBp/dk1gZ1rkdhwELmADGBdCpXV7QJ93lUJDi0j90jNCo61r/UXyGRQj1zUjXVpYwWCbdUwu!JPfFbxNmHuVXHqQcKpk= X-Complaints-To: abuse@speakeasy.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@speakeasy.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.magnet.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.speakeasy.net!news.speakeasy.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8221 Nadie Niemand wrote: > Taggart, thanks! You've summed it up nicely. Mind if I forward it on > to a few friends and students? > > Love and Light, > > Garry You're a Reiki Master, Garry? If not, what do you teach? ###### From: montanevine@netidea.com (montane) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:35:23 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 40 Message-ID: <3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com> References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-100.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8229 Nice to read the article about mindfulness, compassion, and Reiki. I'm not one to stir up controversy for its own sake, though I feel that when different views rub against one another, new understandings can emerge. Taggart, you wrote: "According to Usui Sensei’s surviving students, Mindfulness was taught at First-Degree level, and emphasised further at Second Degree. Mindfulness is a state of living in the moment, of being relaxed, calm and fully engaged in what we are doing. Mindfulness is being aware of what is happening right now and giving ourselves completely to our task without distraction." I remember asking about this when I was first attuned, for a couple reasons. First, I had a yoga meditation and Zen meditation background, so I wondered if attention, per se, was a necessary part of the Reiki healing process (either self healing or a session provided to another person). Second, a session lasting 30 minutes or an hour is a longish time, so the mind can easily wander, if it is not brough back on task. When I was out in Vancouver, Canada, visiting with a well-known Reiki master, he said that he had attuned his young daughters and that Reiki flowed strongly from their hands, including a conspicuous amount of heat. But, he told me, they readily get bored when providing a Reiki session, so they watch videos while they do it. Needless to say, this is not classic Japanese mindfulness! When I brought this question (mindfulness versus natural absentmindedness) onto our AHR n.g. a couple years ago, people said 'why don't you just experiment and tell us'. Well, I have experimented -- but I find it hard to decide. It is very easy to "try", very easy to "push Reiki" simply by attempting to put one's attention on the process, though I have sometimes felt that gentle mindfulness (like you wrote about) does seem to increase the general flow during a session -- for me, anyway. I just thought I'd raise these points for what they might be worth. Namaste, montane ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3f2b04de.2013521@news.west.earthlink.net> References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2a5780.5059001@news.west.earthlink.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 15 Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:05:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.162.252 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1059786322 165.247.162.252 (Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:05:22 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:05:22 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!peer02.cox.net!cox.net!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8243 On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 12:32:23 -0500, Cameron wrote: >You're a Reiki Master, Garry? If not, what do you teach? I am master of nothing (so to speak ). Whereas some might call themselves Reiki Masters, I prefer to call myself Reiki practitioner/teacher. I used to say Reiki and Seichim Master, but these days I feel that all roads lead to Rome, and that a rose by any other name smells as sweet, so why make things any more complicated than they need to be? Love and Light, Garry ###### From: montanevine@netidea.com (montane) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 14:02:25 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3f2bc387.4261308@news.netidea.com> References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-307.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!129.250.169.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8250 On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:35:23 GMT, montanevine@netidea.com (montane) wrote: > >When I was out in Vancouver, Canada, visiting with a well-known Reiki master, >he said that he had attuned his young daughters and that Reiki flowed >strongly from their hands, including a conspicuous amount of heat. But, he >told me, they readily get bored when providing a Reiki session, so they watch >videos while they do it. Needless to say, this is not classic Japanese >mindfulness! > Maybe the point with children is that they are usually on "an outward stroke" -- their minds are naturally active and they are captivated with curiosity about the world and engaged in their imaginations. "Just being with Reiki" may in fact be boring for them, especially after the novelty of attunement wears off. Nevertheless, apparently they can be strong channels even with distracted minds. So, then, what does this example mean for us adults? montane ###### From: "Reiki Evolution" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2a5780.5059001@news.west.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:11:16 +0100 Lines: 177 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-62-64-209-43.access.uk.tiscali.com Message-ID: <3f2e4d62_3@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> X-Trace: 4 Aug 2003 13:11:14 +0100, dial-62-64-209-43.access.uk.tiscali.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!newspeer.lavaseals.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!dial-62-64-209-43.access.uk.tiscali.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8288 Hi Garry, Yes, of course you can pass the article on to other people! If you visit my web site you can download a free eBook containing all 13 articles I have written so far. Best wishes, Taggart www.reiki-evolution.co.uk "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message news:3f2a5780.5059001@news.west.earthlink.net... > Taggart, thanks! You've summed it up nicely. Mind if I forward it on > to a few friends and students? > > Love and Light, > > Garry > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:51:36 +0100, "Reiki Evolution" > wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I thought some of you might be interested to read a new article I have > >written, so here it is, below the signature line... > > > >Taggart King, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > >--------------------------------------------- > >Visit our Reiki Resource Centre! > >Free Reiki Guides, free quarterly eZine, extensive Reiki links and loads of > >Reiki articles to read. > >Downloadable manuals, audio CDs for meditation and learning, and a beautiful > >print of the Reiki precepts. > >--------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Mindfulness and Compassion > >------------------------------- > > > > > >In this article I want to talk about Mindfulness and Compassion, which I > >believe are two essential components of Reiki practice. Whether we are > >treating others, working on ourselves, empowering others or living our lives > >with Reiki, we should grow to embody those two states, the essence of the > >Reiki precepts. > > > > > > > >According to Usui Sensei's surviving students, Mindfulness was taught at > >First-Degree level, and emphasised further at Second Degree. Mindfulness is > >a state of living in the moment, of being relaxed, calm and fully engaged in > >what we are doing. Mindfulness is being aware of what is happening right now > >and giving ourselves completely to our task without distraction. By learning > >how to enjoy and be in the present moment we can find peace within > >ourselves. > > > > > > > >I believe we are exhorted to achieve this state by the precepts, where "just > >for today" we release anger and worry. These are distractions. We don't > >dwell on the past and beat ourselves up for things that did not go the way > >we wanted, we do not think about the future and worry about things that have > >not yet happened. Our reality is illusion. We can learn to release our > >attachments to the past and the future and just "be" now, content and > >accepting in the moment. For me, the precepts both represent a goal to work > >towards, and a description of the effects that Reiki can produce within us, > >over time, if we work with the energy in a committed, dedicated way. > > > > > > > >The final precept, that of being "compassionate towards ourselves and > > others" is for me an exhortation to be gentle with ourselves, to be > >patient, to be light-hearted, to not take ourselves quite so seriously and > >above all to be forgiving - first of all of ourselves but also of others. By > >accepting and forgiving ourselves we start to release our anger and our > >worry, and move towards a state of contentment in the moment. > > > > > > > >The original system was a spiritual path, a path to enlightenment, and the > >precepts were what Usui Sensei's system was all about. These principles are > >a foundation for everything we do with Reiki; the states of mindfulness and > >compassion arise from following the precepts and from working with Reiki. > > > > > > > >For example, how do we feel when we carry out a Reiki treatment? Treating > >someone with Reiki is a special, special gift. We feel a closeness, an > >intimacy, a merging with the recipient; we receive trust and we experience > >compassion. Ideally we should just be there in the moment, with the energy, > >with the recipient, with no expectations. We do not treat someone with the > >intention to resolve their health problem or eliminate their headache. We > >just merge with the energy and allow Reiki to do its work. We create a > >sacred space for healing to occur. If our mind wanders, as it may do, then > >we notice this and gently but firmly bring our attention back to the present > >and what we are doing. We become one with the energy as it flows through us, > >we become one with the recipient, and we experience that blissful > >contentment in the moment. > > > > > > > >Though some are taught that you can hold a conversation with someone as you > >treat, or watch television at the same time, this really will not lead to > >the best being given to the recipient. To be the most effective channel we > >can be, we need to be there with the energy, fully and gently engaged in our > >work, giving ourselves fully to the task without distraction. > > > > > > > >Those same principles apply when working on ourselves, whether carrying out > >Hatsurei ho or self-treating. The state we should seek to achieve is that of > >being fully engaged in the endeavour, of being with the energy without > >distraction, merged, aware and simply existing in the moment, with a gentle > >feeling of forgiveness, love and compassion towards ourselves. > > > > > > > >So both Mindfulness and Compassion are fundamental to our life with Reiki, > >fundamental to the Reiki precepts, to working on others and working on > >ourselves. Not surprisingly they are also an essential component of the > >transmission of Reiki to another person through carrying out Reiju > >empowerments. Reiju is the 'connection ritual' that Usui Sensei used, and > >taught to his surviving students. It is simple, elegant and powerful, free > >from the clutter and detail that surrounds most Western attunement styles. > >When we perform Reiju we have no expectations: we are there in the moment > >with the energy, following the prescribed movements. We are relaxed and > >fully engaged in what we are doing, aware of what is happening right now, > >and we give ourselves completely to our task without distraction. That is > >the essence of Reiju, the essence of treatments, the essence of the > >precepts, and the essence of our life with Reiki. > > > > > > > > > > > ###### From: "RTFM" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:09:53 +0200 Organization: HTnet Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com> <3f2bc387.4261308@news.netidea.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ar4-m224.net.hinet.hr X-Trace: ls219.htnet.hr 1060006388 6430 195.29.67.224 (4 Aug 2003 14:13:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@htnet.hr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:13:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-hub.siol.net!news1.hinet.hr.MISMATCH!news2.htnet.hr!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8264 everyone can be channel, for anything that we do or not do imagine and recognize. mindfullness is just term of beeing here when we do something. if you wash dishes, you do wash dishes, if you eat, just eat, if you do reiki just do it. i have two different experiences. i work in community centre here in rijeka / croatia onto several groups, two of them are based on the reiki treatments and, formally, we do reiki there. one group is on the hard basics of doing handpositioned reiki all onto one, and we do rechange on the table each other every 10 minutes, but we do talk all the time we do treatments, and it lasts from 7 pm till 9 pm. spirituality is word that is not very often here. and we are aged from 30 to 70 years. god forbid that someone even say meditation, :-))) other group is based on the routines established in traditional ways, means - we do meditate, discuss and give treatments in silence and with compassion. mindfully and sistematically. which way is better, i do not know, i enjoy both...on both groups i do learn a lot, allso i give treatments and i teach otehrs what i`ve been learned... but when i am doing treatments, i do follow the ways i do find in a good books of frank arjava peter, seem to me that he did pointed on the japanese meditative technique gassho as the originally technique of late mikao usui, and following the thought that he was monk, buddhist meditation on awareness and guidance is naturally followed in the calm state of mindfulness. after that my world did grew up. now i am doing something that is often called tibetan usui, it is a really powerful stuff especially into calming mind. instead of beeing in guidance, now i am in I am guidance... mindfullness is just necessity to accomplish that. mindfullness is feeling of freedom to do whatever i want to do and doing it. elegance in the mooves when you do live in moving, acting lined in the ways of love. to be into myself all the time. love and light ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3f2f26fe.1430575@news.east.earthlink.net> References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com> <3f2bc387.4261308@news.netidea.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 46 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 03:41:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.153.25 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net 1060054865 165.247.153.25 (Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:41:05 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:41:05 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8280 On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 14:02:25 GMT, montanevine@netidea.com (montane) wrote: >On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:35:23 GMT, montanevine@netidea.com (montane) wrote: > > >> >>When I was out in Vancouver, Canada, visiting with a well-known Reiki master, >>he said that he had attuned his young daughters and that Reiki flowed >>strongly from their hands, including a conspicuous amount of heat. But, he >>told me, they readily get bored when providing a Reiki session, so they watch >>videos while they do it. Needless to say, this is not classic Japanese >>mindfulness! >> > >Maybe the point with children is that they are usually on "an outward stroke" >-- their minds are naturally active and they are captivated with curiosity >about the world and engaged in their imaginations. "Just being with Reiki" >may in fact be boring for them, especially after the novelty of attunement >wears off. > >Nevertheless, apparently they can be strong channels even with distracted >minds. So, then, what does this example mean for us adults? Joel, I've been thinking about this. Young children, in general, do not have their egos as strongly developed as adults do, wouldn't you agree? So maybe having weaker or smaller egos, it doesn't matter so much that they are distracted because the majority of their energy goes into being present instead of being channeled into their egos. Adults are just the opposite, ie, the majority of our energy is invested in identifying with our egos, which interferes heavily with our being present during a Reiki exchange. We have to practice more and work harder at getting our egos out of the way than children do because we've been practicing identifying with our egos for much, much longer. Of course, YMMV. Love and Light, Garry P.S. I'm trying to get the books in the mail this week. Sorry I've been so slack! ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 14:28:05 -0500 From: "Peterz" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com> Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:24:32 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Lines: 67 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.217.79.35 X-Trace: sv3-UEy/2sTml2dqmyFLZJLHNFB+3M3op6V0O/8DhqrS9u9Rms9Ygdhu5mv3n+uHAT4yLsTff0G1aeXnREE!c/RKa7uCZCkBheZi6hGTEfk3FWRZzSAco5AdEM1gjUH0AeitQG3qFHunYERfrbduGPnqsuAV1w== X-Complaints-To: abuse@magma.ca X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@magma.ca X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.magma.ca!news.magma.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8270 Hi Joel and all My Aikido teacher added a 5th Ki principle to those normally used: Detach from all. Detached Ki is still Ki - in fact, the idea is that if you attach too much (I must not obsess, I must not obsess...) you lose your Ki state. Sometimes folks talk while doing/getting/receiving Reiki. Not me mostly, but I know it is done. Still trying not to obsess, Peterz www.onreiki.com "montane" wrote in message news:3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com... > Nice to read the article about mindfulness, compassion, and Reiki. > > I'm not one to stir up controversy for its own sake, though I feel that when > different views rub against one another, new understandings can emerge. > > Taggart, you wrote: "According to Usui Sensei's surviving students, > Mindfulness was taught at First-Degree level, and emphasised further at > Second Degree. Mindfulness is a state of living in the moment, of being > relaxed, calm and fully engaged in what we are doing. Mindfulness is being > aware of what is happening right now and giving ourselves completely to our > task without distraction." > > I remember asking about this when I was first attuned, for a couple reasons. > First, I had a yoga meditation and Zen meditation background, so I wondered > if attention, per se, was a necessary part of the Reiki healing process > (either self healing or a session provided to another person). Second, a > session lasting 30 minutes or an hour is a longish time, so the mind can > easily wander, if it is not brough back on task. > > When I was out in Vancouver, Canada, visiting with a well-known Reiki master, > he said that he had attuned his young daughters and that Reiki flowed > strongly from their hands, including a conspicuous amount of heat. But, he > told me, they readily get bored when providing a Reiki session, so they watch > videos while they do it. Needless to say, this is not classic Japanese > mindfulness! > > When I brought this question (mindfulness versus natural absentmindedness) > onto our AHR n.g. a couple years ago, people said 'why don't you just > experiment and tell us'. Well, I have experimented -- but I find it hard to > decide. It is very easy to "try", very easy to "push Reiki" simply by > attempting to put one's attention on the process, though I have sometimes > felt that gentle mindfulness (like you wrote about) does seem to increase the > general flow during a session -- for me, anyway. > > I just thought I'd raise these points for what they might be worth. > > > Namaste, > > montane ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com> Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Lines: 85 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <5w_Xa.11874$W%3.6040@nwrdny01.gnilink.net> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:22:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.84.150.6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny01.gnilink.net 1060140161 162.84.150.6 (Tue, 05 Aug 2003 23:22:41 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 23:22:41 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny01.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8302 when i worked on a friend whom i consider a mentor in the area of energy work (though reiki is not her "specialty") she said the session was wonderful and very powerful. i told her that i was concerned toward the end of the session that perhaps the session was not so good because my mind started to wander and i felt i was not fully present. i don't mean that i dissociated (because i would think of that as a good thing and a meditative state--which has happened also) what i mean is that i started thinking about my "to do" list and whatnot. she suggested that the most important thing was my intention and that the intent was there throughout regardless of my momentary lapse in attention. she said she was not aware of that and felt that i was with her throughout. she also suggested that one reason the session was powerful was because my ego was not involved in manipulating the energy. i felt better knowing that she had a good experience and was relieved also because i know that where i am right now i have a hard time maintaining that type of present mindfulness for short periods let alone longer periods of an hour or more uninterrupted by my many thoughts. it put me at ease to know that the reiki is effective regardless. that is not to say that i think it would not be more effective could i maintain the state of mindfullness, just to say that i am glad that even without mindfulness the reiki is still reiki. ultimately achieving that state of mindfulness is my goal though--not just in reiki but in all aspects. that is truly living as living should be in my mind and i dont think i ever achieved that for more than a few minutes (or if not in very unusual and uncommon circumstances) until i was attuned to reiki. thanks for the article to taggart and thanks for the additional thoughts, joel/montane -ginger "montane" wrote in message news:3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com... > Nice to read the article about mindfulness, compassion, and Reiki. > > I'm not one to stir up controversy for its own sake, though I feel that when > different views rub against one another, new understandings can emerge. > > Taggart, you wrote: "According to Usui Sensei's surviving students, > Mindfulness was taught at First-Degree level, and emphasised further at > Second Degree. Mindfulness is a state of living in the moment, of being > relaxed, calm and fully engaged in what we are doing. Mindfulness is being > aware of what is happening right now and giving ourselves completely to our > task without distraction." > > I remember asking about this when I was first attuned, for a couple reasons. > First, I had a yoga meditation and Zen meditation background, so I wondered > if attention, per se, was a necessary part of the Reiki healing process > (either self healing or a session provided to another person). Second, a > session lasting 30 minutes or an hour is a longish time, so the mind can > easily wander, if it is not brough back on task. > > When I was out in Vancouver, Canada, visiting with a well-known Reiki master, > he said that he had attuned his young daughters and that Reiki flowed > strongly from their hands, including a conspicuous amount of heat. But, he > told me, they readily get bored when providing a Reiki session, so they watch > videos while they do it. Needless to say, this is not classic Japanese > mindfulness! > > When I brought this question (mindfulness versus natural absentmindedness) > onto our AHR n.g. a couple years ago, people said 'why don't you just > experiment and tell us'. Well, I have experimented -- but I find it hard to > decide. It is very easy to "try", very easy to "push Reiki" simply by > attempting to put one's attention on the process, though I have sometimes > felt that gentle mindfulness (like you wrote about) does seem to increase the > general flow during a session -- for me, anyway. > > I just thought I'd raise these points for what they might be worth. > > > Namaste, > > montane ###### From: "Reiki Evolution" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com> Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:07:45 +0100 Lines: 94 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-225-5-237.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com Message-ID: <3f30a944_3@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> X-Trace: 6 Aug 2003 08:07:48 +0100, ppp-225-5-237.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!195.40.4.120.MISMATCH!easynet-quince!easynet.net!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!ppp-225-5-237.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8312 Hi Peterz, I don't think that chatting while doing Reiki is going to lead you to be the best channel that you can be! But equally, I think that you can be both focused and detached at the same time, neutral in the process but not wandering off elsewhere either. Best wishes, Taggart www.reiki-evolution.co.uk "Peterz" wrote in message news:lIydnW5NlLfYmK2iXTWJlg@magma.ca... > Hi Joel and all > > My Aikido teacher added a 5th Ki principle to those normally used: Detach > from all. Detached Ki is still Ki - in fact, the idea is that if you attach > too much (I must not obsess, I must not obsess...) you lose your Ki state. > > Sometimes folks talk while doing/getting/receiving Reiki. Not me mostly, but > I know it is done. > > Still trying not to obsess, > > Peterz > www.onreiki.com > > "montane" wrote in message > news:3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com... > > Nice to read the article about mindfulness, compassion, and Reiki. > > > > I'm not one to stir up controversy for its own sake, though I feel that > when > > different views rub against one another, new understandings can emerge. > > > > Taggart, you wrote: "According to Usui Sensei's surviving students, > > Mindfulness was taught at First-Degree level, and emphasised further at > > Second Degree. Mindfulness is a state of living in the moment, of being > > relaxed, calm and fully engaged in what we are doing. Mindfulness is being > > aware of what is happening right now and giving ourselves completely to > our > > task without distraction." > > > > I remember asking about this when I was first attuned, for a couple > reasons. > > First, I had a yoga meditation and Zen meditation background, so I > wondered > > if attention, per se, was a necessary part of the Reiki healing process > > (either self healing or a session provided to another person). Second, a > > session lasting 30 minutes or an hour is a longish time, so the mind can > > easily wander, if it is not brough back on task. > > > > When I was out in Vancouver, Canada, visiting with a well-known Reiki > master, > > he said that he had attuned his young daughters and that Reiki flowed > > strongly from their hands, including a conspicuous amount of heat. But, > he > > told me, they readily get bored when providing a Reiki session, so they > watch > > videos while they do it. Needless to say, this is not classic Japanese > > mindfulness! > > > > When I brought this question (mindfulness versus natural absentmindedness) > > onto our AHR n.g. a couple years ago, people said 'why don't you just > > experiment and tell us'. Well, I have experimented -- but I find it hard > to > > decide. It is very easy to "try", very easy to "push Reiki" simply by > > attempting to put one's attention on the process, though I have sometimes > > felt that gentle mindfulness (like you wrote about) does seem to increase > the > > general flow during a session -- for me, anyway. > > > > I just thought I'd raise these points for what they might be worth. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > montane > > ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 08:05:32 -0500 From: "Peterz" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3f2a0df8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com> <3f30a944_3@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> Subject: Re: Article About Reiki: Mindfulness and Compassion Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:01:59 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Lines: 132 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.217.79.35 X-Trace: sv3-RNn76z8qVyKKvJiLSPDjghxw1bechx+bW2G1JxG8oHYn+mXx9BBsbJ13Sc1Xu6NF84KVPYhJ78Q6L31!LBcspa3DEwYaVDFBdk59kLfiZPS1396TYvgPN4LU0lTpEATPn2MQKje3OIDQ9ZWnM0qTbAghuA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@magma.ca X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@magma.ca X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.magma.ca!news.magma.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:8301 Hi Taggart As I said - I don't do it. I only talk if the person being treated asks a question or something. Yesterday a lady was having an emotional release, and she needed some reassurance that it was not unusual, as well as some tissues. Once she settled, the talk stopped. But I continued doing Reiki while she was (audibly) upset. My verbal skills are probably rather off - I am not in a "verbal place". I totally agree with you that if you are chatting you are not in the best Ki-channeling state. But the combination of focus and detachment is an interesting one to explore... Warm best, Peterz www.onreiki.com "Reiki Evolution" wrote in message news:3f30a944_3@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com... > Hi Peterz, > > I don't think that chatting while doing Reiki is going to lead you to be the > best channel that you can be! But equally, I think that you can be both > focused and detached at the same time, neutral in the process but not > wandering off elsewhere either. > > Best wishes, > > > > Taggart > www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > > > "Peterz" wrote in message > news:lIydnW5NlLfYmK2iXTWJlg@magma.ca... > > Hi Joel and all > > > > My Aikido teacher added a 5th Ki principle to those normally used: Detach > > from all. Detached Ki is still Ki - in fact, the idea is that if you > attach > > too much (I must not obsess, I must not obsess...) you lose your Ki state. > > > > Sometimes folks talk while doing/getting/receiving Reiki. Not me mostly, > but > > I know it is done. > > > > Still trying not to obsess, > > > > Peterz > > www.onreiki.com > > > > "montane" wrote in message > > news:3f2ab09f.24109321@news.netidea.com... > > > Nice to read the article about mindfulness, compassion, and Reiki. > > > > > > I'm not one to stir up controversy for its own sake, though I feel that > > when > > > different views rub against one another, new understandings can emerge. > > > > > > Taggart, you wrote: "According to Usui Sensei's surviving students, > > > Mindfulness was taught at First-Degree level, and emphasised further at > > > Second Degree. Mindfulness is a state of living in the moment, of being > > > relaxed, calm and fully engaged in what we are doing. Mindfulness is > being > > > aware of what is happening right now and giving ourselves completely to > > our > > > task without distraction." > > > > > > I remember asking about this when I was first attuned, for a couple > > reasons. > > > First, I had a yoga meditation and Zen meditation background, so I > > wondered > > > if attention, per se, was a necessary part of the Reiki healing process > > > (either self healing or a session provided to another person). Second, > a > > > session lasting 30 minutes or an hour is a longish time, so the mind can > > > easily wander, if it is not brough back on task. > > > > > > When I was out in Vancouver, Canada, visiting with a well-known Reiki > > master, > > > he said that he had attuned his young daughters and that Reiki flowed > > > strongly from their hands, including a conspicuous amount of heat. But, > > he > > > told me, they readily get bored when providing a Reiki session, so they > > watch > > > videos while they do it. Needless to say, this is not classic Japanese > > > mindfulness! > > > > > > When I brought this question (mindfulness versus natural > absentmindedness) > > > onto our AHR n.g. a couple years ago, people said 'why don't you just > > > experiment and tell us'. Well, I have experimented -- but I find it > hard > > to > > > decide. It is very easy to "try", very easy to "push Reiki" simply by > > > attempting to put one's attention on the process, though I have > sometimes > > > felt that gentle mindfulness (like you wrote about) does seem to > increase > > the > > > general flow during a session -- for me, anyway. > > > > > > I just thought I'd raise these points for what they might be worth. > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > montane > > > > > >