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Hi everyone,
Am looking for the 'how to' of 'agni pran' or 'breath of fire'. The most
I can find is 'the drawing of short breaths for a 1-2 minutes'. Is that
all there is?
Google is pretty stingy on the topic.
Cheers
Rich

######

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Purchase an ample supply of lighter fluid and a good lighter.
Take a small  amount of fluid in your mouth and blow it out with some force
as you hold the lit lighter in front of your mouth.

That is Breath of Fire at it best.

However it does require years of practice to get it right and can be harmful
to self and others.

--
ShadowWolf
http://www.mysticreiki.com
http://www.reiki.net
"Rich" <rorlesky@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:3F26D613.B302C52C@shaw.ca...
> Hi everyone,
> Am looking for the 'how to' of 'agni pran' or 'breath of fire'. The most
> I can find is 'the drawing of short breaths for a 1-2 minutes'. Is that
> all there is?
> Google is pretty stingy on the topic.
> Cheers
> Rich
>

######

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<LOL> Okay, and that might surprise the hell out of my meditation group!
Rich

ShadowWolf wrote:
> 
> Purchase an ample supply of lighter fluid and a good lighter.
> Take a small  amount of fluid in your mouth and blow it out with some force
> as you hold the lit lighter in front of your mouth.
> 
> That is Breath of Fire at it best.
> 
> However it does require years of practice to get it right and can be harmful
> to self and others.
> 
> --
> ShadowWolf
> http://www.mysticreiki.com
> http://www.reiki.net
> "Rich" <rorlesky@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:3F26D613.B302C52C@shaw.ca...
> > Hi everyone,
> > Am looking for the 'how to' of 'agni pran' or 'breath of fire'. The most
> > I can find is 'the drawing of short breaths for a 1-2 minutes'. Is that
> > all there is?
> > Google is pretty stingy on the topic.
> > Cheers
> > Rich
> >

######

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Don't try this at home, children ... ;)

Stuart

(ShadowWolf) wrote:

> Purchase an ample supply of lighter fluid and a good lighter.
> Take a small amount of fluid in your mouth and blow it out with some 
> force as you hold the lit lighter in front of your mouth.

######

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Come on baby light my fire...   ;-)

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:10 +0100 (BST), stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon)
wrote:

>
>Don't try this at home, children ... ;)
>
>Stuart
>
>(ShadowWolf) wrote:
>
>> Purchase an ample supply of lighter fluid and a good lighter.
>> Take a small amount of fluid in your mouth and blow it out with some 
>> force as you hold the lit lighter in front of your mouth.
>

######

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Hi Rich
 I guess it is a Pranayama practice  breath of fire as it  rise the   inner
fire inside in the Hara or Dantian
 can be done as well by pushin   with a finger like pushing a putton few
times 4 fingers under the belly button  in this case activate gastric fire
in case of indigestion..
 but blaying with berathing if you oevrdie can provoke dilatation of lungs
alveoles. and disturb Tyroid . and this in not very good.. it is something
that needs to be practiced with a swami checking what you do  and not in our
careless occidental way..
 Theo

Rich wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Am looking for the 'how to' of 'agni pran' or 'breath of fire'. The most
> I can find is 'the drawing of short breaths for a 1-2 minutes'. Is that
> all there is?
> Google is pretty stingy on the topic.
> Cheers
> Rich

--

######

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... surely 'come on fire, light my baby' in this case!

"Nadie Niemand" <nobody@nowhere.org.net> wrote in message
news:3f270069.800837@news.west.earthlink.net...
> Come on baby light my fire...   ;-)
>
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:10 +0100 (BST), stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Don't try this at home, children ... ;)
> >
> >Stuart
> >
> >(ShadowWolf) wrote:
> >
> >> Purchase an ample supply of lighter fluid and a good lighter.
> >> Take a small amount of fluid in your mouth and blow it out with some
> >> force as you hold the lit lighter in front of your mouth.
> >
>

######

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Hi Theo,
Thanks for the words of caution. I spent some time yesterday in the
local bookstore, going through the yoga section. Found a small paragraph
in a book on Kundalini. The topic came up for me when a fellow runner
suggested that it would be good for 'building inner core strength'.
Sounds like a bit of a hassle if done incorrectly. And I only know one
swami.....well, he's a swami whenever a towel is available for his head!
<g>
Might be safer to just do the lighter fluid version! <LOL>
Rich

Theo wrote:
> 
> Hi Rich
>  I guess it is a Pranayama practice  breath of fire as it  rise the   inner
> fire inside in the Hara or Dantian
>  can be done as well by pushin   with a finger like pushing a putton few
> times 4 fingers under the belly button  in this case activate gastric fire
> in case of indigestion..
>  but blaying with berathing if you oevrdie can provoke dilatation of lungs
> alveoles. and disturb Tyroid . and this in not very good.. it is something
> that needs to be practiced with a swami checking what you do  and not in our
> careless occidental way..
>  Theo
> 
> Rich wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> > Am looking for the 'how to' of 'agni pran' or 'breath of fire'. The most
> > I can find is 'the drawing of short breaths for a 1-2 minutes'. Is that
> > all there is?
> > Google is pretty stingy on the topic.
> > Cheers
> > Rich
> 
> --

######

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Hi,

Your runner friend sounds like he's into Kundalini Yoga. Their breath of fire
doesn't require a swami. It's a shallow, rapid yet relaxed diaphramtic breath,
usually done through the nose. If you pick up a book or video on Kundalini
Yoga, you will get better and more specific directions. 

Good luck. 

Blessed Be,

Christopher Penczak
www.christopherpenczak.com

######

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On a more serious note:
There are many forms of breath work available today and it is no longer
necessary to go to a Swami to participate in controlled breathing
techniques.
it is advisable however to learn proper breathing techniques from a someone
well versed.

Breathwork is also used to enter into an altered state of consciousness and
can be used as much the same as hypnotherapy to some degree which means
"learn it properly before using on self or others.

namaste'
ShadowWolf

--
ShadowWolf
http://www.mysticreiki.com
http://www.reiki.net
"Rich" <rorlesky@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:3F26D613.B302C52C@shaw.ca...
> Hi everyone,
> Am looking for the 'how to' of 'agni pran' or 'breath of fire'. The most
> I can find is 'the drawing of short breaths for a 1-2 minutes'. Is that
> all there is?
> Google is pretty stingy on the topic.
> Cheers
> Rich
>

######

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Many thanks, Christopher. Am off to the library! Getting way too curious
to let this go.
Cheers
Rich

Torcboy wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your runner friend sounds like he's into Kundalini Yoga. Their breath of fire
> doesn't require a swami. It's a shallow, rapid yet relaxed diaphramtic breath,
> usually done through the nose. If you pick up a book or video on Kundalini
> Yoga, you will get better and more specific directions.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Blessed Be,
> 
> Christopher Penczak
> www.christopherpenczak.com

######

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Hi ShadowWolf,
On a less serious note, I believe that a good sense of humor is as
important as good breathing
practices! After I had posted I realized, "Oh, oh! 'Breath of fire'
might be considered a pretty good straight line", and braced myself
for....???....a chuckle, as well as wisdom. Hey, what a great
combination!
Thanks!
Cheers!
Rich
 


ShadowWolf wrote:
> 
> On a more serious note:
> There are many forms of breath work available today and it is no longer
> necessary to go to a Swami to participate in controlled breathing
> techniques.
> it is advisable however to learn proper breathing techniques from a someone
> well versed.
> 
> Breathwork is also used to enter into an altered state of consciousness and
> can be used as much the same as hypnotherapy to some degree which means
> "learn it properly before using on self or others.
> 
> namaste'
> ShadowWolf
> 
> --
> ShadowWolf
> http://www.mysticreiki.com
> http://www.reiki.net
> "Rich" <rorlesky@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:3F26D613.B302C52C@shaw.ca...
> > Hi everyone,
> > Am looking for the 'how to' of 'agni pran' or 'breath of fire'. The most
> > I can find is 'the drawing of short breaths for a 1-2 minutes'. Is that
> > all there is?
> > Google is pretty stingy on the topic.
> > Cheers
> > Rich
> >

######

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In article <3F27CB63.716DFAFB@shaw.ca>, Rich <rorlesky@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Might be safer to just do the lighter fluid version! <LOL>

I know this is a joke. I know this is a joke. 
But don't even think about it :-)

If you're going to try fire breathing, lighter fluid is a terrible 
substance to use - it's essentially petrol, and people have been 
terribly injured using the stuff (I knew a guy at Uni who accidentally 
inhaled some burning lighter fluid while trying to fire-breathe, and he 
was lucky to only lose his singing voice. Permanently.)

Petrol explodes. As many people who've ill-advisedly used it to 
kick-start bonfires and bbqs have discovered to their cost.

Paraffin OTOH is good for fire-breathing. Insofar as anything is - used 
on a regular basis, the vapour collects in your lungs, never gets out, 
and helps cause nice little ailments like pleurisy if you're unlucky. 
But at least it's far less likely to kill or maim you if you make a 
mistake.

Which is why I don't fire-breathe. It looks great. But the cost is a 
little too high (did I mention that the smell of lighter fluid or 
paraffin on your breath is definately *not* considered sexy by most 
people?)

Fire *juggling* on the other hand is loads of fun. I can't recommend 
that highly enough :-)

Andy

######

From: Andy Lewis <ajlewis@puresoftware.co.nospam.please.uk>
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In article <qRAVa.176969$ic1.4042578@twister.tampabay.rr.com>,
 "ShadowWolf" <wolf@reiki.net> wrote:

> Purchase an ample supply of lighter fluid and a good lighter.
> Take a small  amount of fluid in your mouth and blow it out with some force
> as you hold the lit lighter in front of your mouth.

As before.

DO NOT DO THIS.

repeat

DO NOT EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING THIS.

See earlier post.

Andy
Anyway. The instructions are bad. Practise atomising liquid first as you 
spit it out (use a glass of water, out in the garden) until you can 
consistently spray out a fine mist of fluid. Then use paraffin (I think 
it's called kerosene in the States), NOT lighter fluid, and spit it in 
said fashion over a burning torch (juggling torches or fire-eating 
torches are best for this)

Don't do this using a lighter, as you could easily do nasty things to 
your hand. It's a little too close to the flame this way.

You can probably find better instructions on some of the juggling 
information pages. I recommend finding and looking at those before even 
contemplating fire breathing.

######

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In article <memo.20030729221045.400F@stuv.compulink.co.uk>,
 stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) wrote:

> Don't try this at home, children ... ;)
> 

Indeed.
Try it at school, where you can be properly supervised.

Ta daaa

Andy

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Nadie Niemand wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 20:53:41 +0100, Andy Lewis
> <ajlewis@puresoftware.co.nospam.please.uk> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >Paraffin OTOH is good for fire-breathing. Insofar as anything is - used
> 
> <snip essential, life-saving warnings>
> 
> Interesting. Paraffin, in US parlance, refers to the waxy stuff that
> candles are made out of commercially when you don't want to spend the
> bucks to use real bees wax. I see you mention in another post that in
> the UK it refers to what we Yanks call kerosene. I guess the moral of
> the story is, never follow instructions without first finding out
> which country they came from, and 2nd without consulting a bilingual
> dictionary.  ;-)

I think it's more like the stuff in canned heat, not kerosene, not white
gas either. The name escapes me, but it's the stuff used to keep chafing
dishes warm.

sue

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On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 19:28:55 -0700, suzee <suzeeq@nidlink.com> wrote:

>I think it's more like the stuff in canned heat, not kerosene, not white
>gas either. The name escapes me, but it's the stuff used to keep chafing
>dishes warm.

Of course, they're all in the same chemical family (he said, warming
up to the subject of flammable, saturated aliphatic hydrocarbons).

Garry

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And for the betterment and enlightenment of all, here's the official 
Juggling Information Service fire breathing/eating FAQ:

http://www.juggling.org/help/circus-arts/fire-eat/fire-eat.html

Enjoy,

Andy

In article <3F3067E7.7EF161C2@nidlink.com>, suzee <suzeeq@nidlink.com> 
wrote:

> Nadie Niemand wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 20:53:41 +0100, Andy Lewis
> > <ajlewis@puresoftware.co.nospam.please.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > >Paraffin OTOH is good for fire-breathing. Insofar as anything is - used
> > 
> > <snip essential, life-saving warnings>
> > 
> > Interesting. Paraffin, in US parlance, refers to the waxy stuff that
> > candles are made out of commercially when you don't want to spend the
> > bucks to use real bees wax. I see you mention in another post that in
> > the UK it refers to what we Yanks call kerosene. I guess the moral of
> > the story is, never follow instructions without first finding out
> > which country they came from, and 2nd without consulting a bilingual
> > dictionary.  ;-)
> 
> I think it's more like the stuff in canned heat, not kerosene, not white
> gas either. The name escapes me, but it's the stuff used to keep chafing
> dishes warm.
> 
> sue

######

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Andy Lewis wrote:
> 
> In article <3F27CB63.716DFAFB@shaw.ca>, Rich <rorlesky@shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> > Might be safer to just do the lighter fluid version! <LOL>
> 
> I know this is a joke. I know this is a joke.
> But don't even think about it :-)

Hi Andy,
You can be sure I won't! After being around this group for awhile, you
may notice 
that the sensation you get in your lower body from time to time is that
of your leg being pulled!
Here is a bit of what I found (no leg pulling here)----quote:

"'Breath of Fire' or 'Agni Pran' is a form of Rhythmic Breathing unique
to kundalini yoga that creates energy.
A rapid, powerful, diaphragmatic breath, it is an excellent tonic any
time your energy begins to flag. Sometimes Breath of Fire will cause
mild perspiration on the forehead. Yogis believe this is caused by tapa,
or psychic energy. I like to call this breath the spark that kindles the
flame.
The Breath of Fire may cause a slight feeling of lightheadedness, but
does not create hyperventilation. Studies have shown that the Breath of
Fire actually increases oxygen in the blood, while carbon dioxide levels
remain stable.
Although you should begin to practice this for durations of 1 to 3
minutes, some people find it easy to do a full 10 minutes immediately.
Some tingling sensations and lightheadedness are completely normal, as
your body adjusts to the new stimulation of your nerves. If you
concentrate at the brow point, this should pass quickly. Once you have
adjusted, it normally stays away. In some people, this is the result of
toxins released by the breath. That type 
of sensation is helped by a light diet, with a lot of fresh vegetable
juices. Others find the breath creates initial dizziness or giddiness.
These are signs you are not doing it correctly. Stop, rest, and then
begin again.
To perform Breath of Fire:
1. Inhale through your nostrils by bringing your diaphragm down, instead
of up. Breathe from your 
diaphragm, with your chest relaxed. Focus your mental energy on your
third chakra, or solar plexus, which is the seat of your personal power.
2. Make your inhalations swift and powerful, more than one inhalation
per second.
3. Do not pause between inhaling and exhaling.
4. Exhale forcefully through your nose.
5. Continue this for 1-3 minutes.

A variation: Sit straight and place your hands together in a prayer pose
at the center of the chest. The fingers point upward and the thumbs
press against the sternum. Close the eyelids nine-tenths of the way.
Roll the eyes up and concentrate at the brow point. Begin Breath of
Fire. Continue for 3 
minutes, then inhale through the nose and hold for 10 seconds. Relax. Do
Breath of Fire again, through the nose. Inhale through the nose and hold
for 10 seconds, then exhale through the nose, and relax. Stay still and
place the hands on the knees with the first fingertip touching the
thumb, palms up. Watch the natural flow of the breath and the constant
stream of sensation, both internal and external. After 3 minutes inhale
deeply, and exhale. Repeat this combination 
of 3 minutes of Breath of Fire with 3 minutes of breath awareness for
three to five repetitions.
The effects of the Breath of Fire are:

 -Increase in endurance

 -Increase of resistance to stress

 -Reduction of addictive impulses

 -Release of toxins from the mucous membranes of the lungs

 -Enhanced balance of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous
systems

 -Stimulation of the splanchnic nerves, causing increased output of
epinephrine and norepinephrine"

######

From: Andy Lewis <ajlewis@puresoftware.co.nospam.please.uk>
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In article <3F3118F4.2A25C2A7@shaw.ca>, Rich <rorlesky@shaw.ca> wrote:

> You can be sure I won't! After being around this group for awhile, you
> may notice 
> that the sensation you get in your lower body from time to time is that
> of your leg being pulled!

I know :-)

But you know how it is. I like fire juggling as a hobby, and I've done a 
little performance work occasionally with it, so I know some of the 
dangers. I also know the appeal, and how much fun it can be to mess 
around with fire (that in itself is a danger) And I know that not 
everyone will take that as a leg-pull - because people *do* try it.
It's a bee-in-bonnet thing.

Ugh. I'm in lecture mode again. Sorry guys.

I do humour too!
I do!

Um.

How many Reiki masters does it take to change a lightbulb?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
(If you know a funny answer for that one, please let me know)

Andy

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Hey, my friend, you have all my respect! I couldn't and wouldn't want to
try to do what you can do. I have enough of a challenge getting my BBQ
to co-operate! <g>
The lightbulb? Hm. Why change it? Why not just give it Reiki and it will
either re-light or not, depending on its highest good? Ooops. Mea culpa!
:-)
Cheers
Rich 

Andy Lewis wrote:
> 
> In article <3F3118F4.2A25C2A7@shaw.ca>, Rich <rorlesky@shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> > You can be sure I won't! After being around this group for awhile, you
> > may notice
> > that the sensation you get in your lower body from time to time is that
> > of your leg being pulled!
> 
> I know :-)
> 
> But you know how it is. I like fire juggling as a hobby, and I've done a
> little performance work occasionally with it, so I know some of the
> dangers. I also know the appeal, and how much fun it can be to mess
> around with fire (that in itself is a danger) And I know that not
> everyone will take that as a leg-pull - because people *do* try it.
> It's a bee-in-bonnet thing.
> 
> Ugh. I'm in lecture mode again. Sorry guys.
> 
> I do humour too!
> I do!
> 
> Um.
> 
> How many Reiki masters does it take to change a lightbulb?
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> (If you know a funny answer for that one, please let me know)
> 
> Andy

######

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Andy Lewis <ajlewis@puresoftware.co.nospam.please.uk> writes:

> How many Reiki masters does it take to change a lightbulb?
> .
> (If you know a funny answer for that one, please let me know)

At your service.

Answer: It does not matter. Just let the Reiki flow and the bulb will
change itsself. (Alternative: ... be healed by itsself)


--
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Andy Lewis <ajlewis@puresoftware.co.nospam.please.uk> writes:

> How many Reiki masters does it take to change a lightbulb?
> .
> (If you know a funny answer for that one, please let me know)

At your service.

Answer: It does not matter. Just let the Reiki flow and the bulb will
change itsself. (Alternative: ... be healed by itsself)


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Andy Lewis <ajlewis@puresoftware.co.nospam.please.uk> wrote in message news:<ajlewis-A47DF6.17022306082003@slb-newsm1.svr.pol.co.uk>...

> 
> Um.
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> How many Reiki masters does it take to change a lightbulb?
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Andy, hi 
 the term 'Reiki Masters' is a bit too general...

Now, if you'd asked:

"How many 'Usui Shiki Ryoho' Reiki Masters does it take to change a
lightbulb?"...

Answer: Four

one to hold the ladder
one to hold the energy
one to hold the ten thousand dollar fee
and of course, one to hold the lightbulb!

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'shiken haramitsu dai ko myo'

James
 

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