From: peterz@magma.ca (Peterz) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Does it scan? Date: 2 May 2003 06:35:32 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.217.123.201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1051882532 7909 127.0.0.1 (2 May 2003 13:35:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 May 2003 13:35:32 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5538 Hi all... Taggart mentioned scanning in his article on Feng Shui and Reiki. I was taught to scan as part of Reiki (including for self-Reiki), but have read articles comparing Reiki to Therapeutic Touch that say that TT has a diagnostic approach (comparing "energy signatures in different places") whereas Reiki does not. What I was taught: Scan = sense the energy around the person. Hand is about 6 inches/15cm away (although I also scan higher up - about 3x as high). Try to sense heat, cold, drops in energy, rises,... anything that is "different" is worth noting. Often (not always) if I get a block or drop over somewhere then there is very little energy sense below that point. Sometimes my hand gets "pulled" somewhere that seems to want attention. I also scan by touch, feeling for hot/cold/unusual spots (from a Ki healing course taught by Aikido teacher). This is usually for mechanical/muscular problems. I would like to know who-all does what and what you use it for. Thanks in advance, PEter www.onreiki.com ###### Message-ID: <3EB27B1D.8C26655@bluewin.ch> Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 16:05:17 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no_spam_byjoke@bluewin.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.103.251 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.103.251 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1051883938 62.203.103.251 (2 May 2003 15:58:58 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 35 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5376 could someone write down a list of the different sensations and sympthom related to Fenguy shui or physical deseases or is mainly a subjective experience ? Theo Peterz wrote: > Hi all... > > Taggart mentioned scanning in his article on Feng Shui and Reiki. I > was taught to scan as part of Reiki (including for self-Reiki), but > have read articles comparing Reiki to Therapeutic Touch that say that > TT has a diagnostic approach (comparing "energy signatures in > different places") whereas Reiki does not. > > What I was taught: Scan = sense the energy around the person. Hand is > about 6 inches/15cm away (although I also scan higher up - about 3x as > high). Try to sense heat, cold, drops in energy, rises,... anything > that is "different" is worth noting. Often (not always) if I get a > block or drop over somewhere then there is very little energy sense > below that point. Sometimes my hand gets "pulled" somewhere that seems > to want attention. > > I also scan by touch, feeling for hot/cold/unusual spots (from a Ki > healing course taught by Aikido teacher). This is usually for > mechanical/muscular problems. > > I would like to know who-all does what and what you use it for. > > Thanks in advance, > > PEter > > www.onreiki.com ###### From: "Taggart King" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Does it scan? Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 15:17:23 +0100 Lines: 75 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-62-64-162-165.access.uk.tiscali.com Message-ID: <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> X-Trace: 2 May 2003 15:17:26 +0100, dial-62-64-162-165.access.uk.tiscali.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!dial-62-64-162-165.access.uk.tiscali.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5372 Hi Peter, There is a technique/approach that comes from the 'Gakkai, called 'byosen', or byosen reikan ho, where there is this idea that each medical condition or disease produces its own characteristic echo or energy signature... and with a great deal of practice you start to learn what particular sensations mean in particular places. There are no short cuts, it seems, and you can't consult a big book to find out what different sensations mean: you have to work out for yourself what your wn hands' vocabulary is. Success with Byosen is apparently taken as an indicator that you have developed your abilities sufficiently to warrant moving on to higher levels of training. This isn't an Original Usui Reiki method, though. There were no treatment technqiues taught by Usui. Treating others wasn't the main focus of the system. Though I teach scanning, I prefer to work intuitively, using reiji ho, where you allow the energy to guide your hands into the correct combination of hand positions for that person on that occasion. When your hands get there, you find that there is a lot going on, of course, but scanning and reiji ho are sort of opposites... with scanning you're focusing on your hands and trying to pick up differences in different areas, trying to pick up 'hotspots' (however they might feel: hot, fizzy, pulsing, heavy, cool, breezy, whatever), and with reiji ho you're not thinking, not trying, not focusing, just merging with the energy, becoming one with it, and letting the energy guide your hands. Phew! Best wishes, Taggart King, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk --------------------------------------------- Visit our Home Study Centre! Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five Element Healing. Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. --------------------------------------------- "Peterz" wrote in message news:4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad @posting.google.com... > Hi all... > > Taggart mentioned scanning in his article on Feng Shui and Reiki. I > was taught to scan as part of Reiki (including for self-Reiki), but > have read articles comparing Reiki to Therapeutic Touch that say that > TT has a diagnostic approach (comparing "energy signatures in > different places") whereas Reiki does not. > > What I was taught: Scan = sense the energy around the person. Hand is > about 6 inches/15cm away (although I also scan higher up - about 3x as > high). Try to sense heat, cold, drops in energy, rises,... anything > that is "different" is worth noting. Often (not always) if I get a > block or drop over somewhere then there is very little energy sense > below that point. Sometimes my hand gets "pulled" somewhere that seems > to want attention. > > I also scan by touch, feeling for hot/cold/unusual spots (from a Ki > healing course taught by Aikido teacher). This is usually for > mechanical/muscular problems. > > I would like to know who-all does what and what you use it for. > > Thanks in advance, > > PEter > > www.onreiki.com ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 19:40 +0100 (BST) Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: public2-bolt3-3-cust49.oldh.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.49) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1051900817 14698001 80.2.124.49 (16 [41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!public2-bolt3-3-cust49.oldh.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5527 (Joel M. Eichen) wrote: > WAIT! > > You scan the paper before you eat it? Yeah sure ... Original Reiki comes with an optional Twain driver (W2K and XP only) .. idea being that you mail the scanned jpg to everyone in your address book, they print it out and repeat the process .. neat, no? > Or am i lost????? Probably ... :) Stuart ###### Message-ID: <3EB2C33F.F6E31E95@ch.inter.net> Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 21:13:04 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no-spam-byjoke@ch.inter.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3EB27B1D.8C26655@bluewin.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.31.54 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.31.54 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1051902777 62.203.31.54 (2 May 2003 21:12:57 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 55 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5443 we are all still waiting for your supposed to be existing " dentist" diploma.. Theo "Joel M. Eichen" wrote: > WAIT! > > You scan the paper before you eat it? > > Or am i lost????? > > "Theo" wrote in message news:3EB27B1D.8C26655@bluewin.ch... > > could someone write down a list of the different sensations and sympthom > > related to Fenguy shui or physical deseases or is mainly a subjective > > experience ? > > Theo > > > > Peterz wrote: > > > > > Hi all... > > > > > > Taggart mentioned scanning in his article on Feng Shui and Reiki. I > > > was taught to scan as part of Reiki (including for self-Reiki), but > > > have read articles comparing Reiki to Therapeutic Touch that say that > > > TT has a diagnostic approach (comparing "energy signatures in > > > different places") whereas Reiki does not. > > > > > > What I was taught: Scan = sense the energy around the person. Hand is > > > about 6 inches/15cm away (although I also scan higher up - about 3x as > > > high). Try to sense heat, cold, drops in energy, rises,... anything > > > that is "different" is worth noting. Often (not always) if I get a > > > block or drop over somewhere then there is very little energy sense > > > below that point. Sometimes my hand gets "pulled" somewhere that seems > > > to want attention. > > > > > > I also scan by touch, feeling for hot/cold/unusual spots (from a Ki > > > healing course taught by Aikido teacher). This is usually for > > > mechanical/muscular problems. > > > > > > I would like to know who-all does what and what you use it for. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > PEter > > > > > > www.onreiki.com > > -- How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? Theo http://www.byjoke.com/ ###### From: peterz@magma.ca (Peterz) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? Date: 3 May 2003 11:30:47 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 77 Message-ID: <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.217.123.201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1051986648 21066 127.0.0.1 (3 May 2003 18:30:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 May 2003 18:30:48 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5517 Hi Thanks for the help Taggart. There are three different things that I do when I practise, although I do not know what they correspond to in the Japanese lexicon. In the first, of these, I am sending with intent, usually from one hand to the other (polarized, if you will). This comes from training in a modality from Aikido - usually referred to as Kiatsu. Non-polarized transmission takes two forms: in one, I am paying attention to the scan explicitly, feeling that one place is empty/cold/whatever and responding to it. In the other, I am "above" that place (the above is a condition of my own being, not a value judgement), and I just "AM". Very different to me and to the recipient. I know that descriptions like this are very difficult to interpret, but does this last sound like reijhi ho? (I was not taught the Japanese teminology...) I have "found" things that I was not told about while doing Reiki, and correctly identified them in rather astonishing (to me) detail. So I may suppose that I am correctly interpreting the input that I am getting. So... to what "higher levels of training" are you referring? Thanks much, Peter peter zorzella www.onreiki.com OMG! An on-topic response. "Taggart King" wrote in message news:<3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>... > Hi Peter, > > There is a technique/approach that comes from the 'Gakkai, called 'byosen', > or byosen reikan ho, where there is this idea that each medical condition or > disease produces its own characteristic echo or energy signature... and with > a great deal of practice you start to learn what particular sensations mean > in particular places. There are no short cuts, it seems, and you can't > consult a big book to find out what different sensations mean: you have to > work out for yourself what your wn hands' vocabulary is. Success with Byosen > is apparently taken as an indicator that you have developed your abilities > sufficiently to warrant moving on to higher levels of training. > > This isn't an Original Usui Reiki method, though. There were no treatment > technqiues taught by Usui. Treating others wasn't the main focus of the > system. > > Though I teach scanning, I prefer to work intuitively, using reiji ho, where > you allow the energy to guide your hands into the correct combination of > hand positions for that person on that occasion. When your hands get there, > you find that there is a lot going on, of course, but scanning and reiji ho > are sort of opposites... with scanning you're focusing on your hands and > trying to pick up differences in different areas, trying to pick up > 'hotspots' (however they might feel: hot, fizzy, pulsing, heavy, cool, > breezy, whatever), and with reiji ho you're not thinking, not trying, not > focusing, just merging with the energy, becoming one with it, and letting > the energy guide your hands. > > Phew! > > Best wishes, > > > Taggart King, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > --------------------------------------------- > Visit our Home Study Centre! > Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five > Element Healing. > Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. > Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. > --------------------------------------------- > ###### Message-ID: <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 20:43:09 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no-spam-byjoke@ch.inter.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.95.170 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.95.170 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1051987378 62.203.95.170 (3 May 2003 20:42:58 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 37 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news2.ip-plus.net,newsfeed2-zh.ip-plus.net!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5439 HI Peterz Peterz wrote: > -snip- > I have "found" things that I was not told about while doing Reiki, and > correctly identified them in rather astonishing (to me) detail. So I > may suppose that I am correctly interpreting the input that I am > getting. So... to what "higher levels of training" are you referring? thanks to say nicely now what I was trying one of these days to say. I had the same experience.. and what I was doing was even before I did know what Reiki was dealing with .. but I was already dealing with Qi in qi gong yesterday reading a book about what some hand positions cured I realized why I was doing it so energy or the collective incoscious was guiding me or I was tapping into .. higher levels ? will I never know the truth? Theo > ing, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > > --------------------------------------------- > > Visit our Home Study Centre! > > Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five > > Element Healing. > > Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. > > Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. > > --------------------------------------------- > > -- How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? Theo http://www.byjoke.com/ ###### From: "Taggart King" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Does it scan? Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 20:14:21 +0100 Lines: 65 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-62-64-213-69.access.uk.tiscali.com Message-ID: <3eb41511_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> X-Trace: 3 May 2003 20:14:25 +0100, dial-62-64-213-69.access.uk.tiscali.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!newspeer.lavaseals.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!dial-62-64-213-69.access.uk.tiscali.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5573 Dear Peter, Yes, your description of the second one sounds like Reiji ho, where you have just merged with the energy, become one with the energy, and your hands movements are not controlled by your conscious mind. You simply disappear, you are the energy, completely open, not putting yourself in the way. Reiji ho means 'indication of the spirit technique'. The reference to 'higher levels of training' just meant that in the 'Gakkai - apparently - you couldn't get to 2nd degree unless you could show that you could diagnose with the hands. That wasn't something that Usui insisted on, because his system wasn't really about treating others anyway... and the 'Gakkai was set up after his death as a memorial society, and the founding officers introduced many changes. Best wishes, Taggart King, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk --------------------------------------------- Visit our Home Study Centre! Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five Element Healing. Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. --------------------------------------------- "Peterz" wrote in message news:4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com... > Hi > > Thanks for the help Taggart. There are three different things that I > do when I practise, although I do not know what they correspond to in > the Japanese lexicon. > > In the first, of these, I am sending with intent, usually from one > hand to the other (polarized, if you will). This comes from training > in a modality from Aikido - usually referred to as Kiatsu. > Non-polarized transmission takes two forms: in one, I am paying > attention to the scan explicitly, feeling that one place is > empty/cold/whatever and responding to it. In the other, I am "above" > that place (the above is a condition of my own being, not a value > judgement), and I just "AM". Very different to me and to the > recipient. I know that descriptions like this are very difficult to > interpret, but does this last sound like reijhi ho? (I was not taught > the Japanese teminology...) > > I have "found" things that I was not told about while doing Reiki, and > correctly identified them in rather astonishing (to me) detail. So I > may suppose that I am correctly interpreting the input that I am > getting. So... to what "higher levels of training" are you referring? > > > Thanks much, > > Peter > > peter zorzella > www.onreiki.com ###### Message-ID: <3EB50514.9969D97D@ch.inter.net> Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 14:18:28 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no-spam-byjoke@ch.inter.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3EB27B1D.8C26655@bluewin.ch> <3EB2C33F.F6E31E95@ch.inter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.60.68 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.60.68 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1052050694 62.203.60.68 (4 May 2003 14:18:14 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 72 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5422 u bought there ? Theo "Joel M. Eichen" wrote: > I got one ...... > > check on the internet .... > > "Theo" wrote in message news:3EB2C33F.F6E31E95@ch.inter.net... > > we are all still waiting for your supposed to be existing " dentist" diploma.. > > > > Theo > > > > "Joel M. Eichen" wrote: > > > > > WAIT! > > > > > > You scan the paper before you eat it? > > > > > > Or am i lost????? > > > > > > "Theo" wrote in message news:3EB27B1D.8C26655@bluewin.ch... > > > > could someone write down a list of the different sensations and sympthom > > > > related to Fenguy shui or physical deseases or is mainly a subjective > > > > experience ? > > > > Theo > > > > > > > > Peterz wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all... > > > > > > > > > > Taggart mentioned scanning in his article on Feng Shui and Reiki. I > > > > > was taught to scan as part of Reiki (including for self-Reiki), but > > > > > have read articles comparing Reiki to Therapeutic Touch that say that > > > > > TT has a diagnostic approach (comparing "energy signatures in > > > > > different places") whereas Reiki does not. > > > > > > > > > > What I was taught: Scan = sense the energy around the person. Hand is > > > > > about 6 inches/15cm away (although I also scan higher up - about 3x as > > > > > high). Try to sense heat, cold, drops in energy, rises,... anything > > > > > that is "different" is worth noting. Often (not always) if I get a > > > > > block or drop over somewhere then there is very little energy sense > > > > > below that point. Sometimes my hand gets "pulled" somewhere that seems > > > > > to want attention. > > > > > > > > > > I also scan by touch, feeling for hot/cold/unusual spots (from a Ki > > > > > healing course taught by Aikido teacher). This is usually for > > > > > mechanical/muscular problems. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know who-all does what and what you use it for. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > PEter > > > > > > > > > > www.onreiki.com > > > > > > > > -- > > How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? > > Theo > > http://www.byjoke.com/ > > > > -- How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? Theo http://www.byjoke.com/ ###### From: peterz@magma.ca (Peterz) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? Date: 4 May 2003 06:29:41 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 37 Message-ID: <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.217.123.201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1052054981 3845 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2003 13:29:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 May 2003 13:29:41 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5543 As per another thread Theo, I think that though the detailed models are different (stored/birth Qi etc - I started with Taiji/Qiqong), in the end Qi and Ki are the same energy. The symbol is the same for both. p Theo wrote in message news:<3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net>... > HI Peterz > > Peterz wrote: > > > > > -snip- > > > I have "found" things that I was not told about while doing Reiki, and > > correctly identified them in rather astonishing (to me) detail. So I > > may suppose that I am correctly interpreting the input that I am > > getting. So... to what "higher levels of training" are you referring? > > thanks to say nicely now what I was trying one of these days to say. > I had the same experience.. and what I was doing was even before I did know what Reiki was dealing with .. but I was > already dealing with Qi in qi gong > yesterday reading a book about what some hand positions cured I realized why I was doing it > so energy or the collective incoscious was guiding me or I was tapping into .. higher levels ? > will I never know the truth? > Theo > > > ing, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Visit our Home Study Centre! > > > Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five > > > Element Healing. > > > Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. > > > Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > ###### From: peterz@magma.ca (Peterz) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? Date: 4 May 2003 06:33:39 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 35 Message-ID: <4ef40597.0305040533.2691eb76@posting.google.com> References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3eb41511_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.217.123.201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1052055219 3937 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2003 13:33:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 May 2003 13:33:39 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!newspeer.lavaseals.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5523 Dear Taggart So it sounds like Reiji ho is the one to use given that I can. It so hard to let go of the getting in the way... it is so familiar... *pity*. Peter "Taggart King" wrote in message news:<3eb41511_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>... > Dear Peter, > > Yes, your description of the second one sounds like Reiji ho, where you have > just merged with the energy, become one with the energy, and your hands > movements are not controlled by your conscious mind. You simply disappear, > you are the energy, completely open, not putting yourself in the way. > > Reiji ho means 'indication of the spirit technique'. > [snip] > > Best wishes, > > > Taggart King, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > --------------------------------------------- > Visit our Home Study Centre! > Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five > Element Healing. > Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. > Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. > --------------------------------------------- > [snip] ###### Message-ID: <3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net> Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 19:59:15 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no-spam-byjoke@ch.inter.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.60.68 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.60.68 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1052071139 62.203.60.68 (4 May 2003 19:58:59 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 62 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5431 HI Peterz wrote: > As per another thread Theo, I think that though the detailed models > are different (stored/birth Qi etc - I started with Taiji/Qiqong), in > the end Qi and Ki are the same energy. The symbol is the same for > both. yes the same .. but one Qi as more physical and using merdians can get clogged and stagnant Rei-ki instead passes trought our body so runs as water and cannot stagnate Qui Gong exercises are like Yoga keeps you busy in absorbing and making teh energy circulate and sex is a waste of energy in Reiki I never heard whatever about sex depleting energy nor to keep the energy circulating ..it circulates only when neded and that's all ..in Qi gong is better to practices massages Ba Dua lin ( 8 pieces of Brocade) after Qui Gong to distribute leftover energy Oh my I should start Qui Gong again and Pranayama too but where to get the time? namaste Theo > > p > > Theo wrote in message news:<3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net>... > > HI Peterz > > > > Peterz wrote: > > > > > > > > > -snip- > > > > > I have "found" things that I was not told about while doing Reiki, and > > > correctly identified them in rather astonishing (to me) detail. So I > > > may suppose that I am correctly interpreting the input that I am > > > getting. So... to what "higher levels of training" are you referring? > > > > thanks to say nicely now what I was trying one of these days to say. > > I had the same experience.. and what I was doing was even before I did know what Reiki was dealing with .. but I was > > already dealing with Qi in qi gong > > yesterday reading a book about what some hand positions cured I realized why I was doing it > > so energy or the collective incoscious was guiding me or I was tapping into .. higher levels ? > > will I never know the truth? > > Theo > > > > > ing, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > Visit our Home Study Centre! > > > > Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five > > > > Element Healing. > > > > Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. > > > > Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > -- How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? Theo http://www.byjoke.com/ ###### Message-ID: <3EB55E73.1FB6FBD5@ch.inter.net> Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 20:39:48 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no-spam-byjoke@ch.inter.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3EB27B1D.8C26655@bluewin.ch> <3EB2C33F.F6E31E95@ch.inter.net> <3EB50514.9969D97D@ch.inter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.60.68 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.60.68 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1052073572 62.203.60.68 (4 May 2003 20:39:32 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 93 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5456 "Joel M. Eichen" wrote: > YUP cheaper than dental school! what school i!!!t is a scam what you are telling us.. you never ended the school! you have no diploma Theo > > > "Theo" wrote in message news:3EB50514.9969D97D@ch.inter.net... > > u bought there ? > > Theo > > > > "Joel M. Eichen" wrote: > > > > > I got one ...... > > > > > > check on the internet .... > > > > > > "Theo" wrote in message news:3EB2C33F.F6E31E95@ch.inter.net... > > > > we are all still waiting for your supposed to be existing " dentist" diploma.. > > > > > > > > Theo > > > > > > > > "Joel M. Eichen" wrote: > > > > > > > > > WAIT! > > > > > > > > > > You scan the paper before you eat it? > > > > > > > > > > Or am i lost????? > > > > > > > > > > "Theo" wrote in message news:3EB27B1D.8C26655@bluewin.ch... > > > > > > could someone write down a list of the different sensations and sympthom > > > > > > related to Fenguy shui or physical deseases or is mainly a subjective > > > > > > experience ? > > > > > > Theo > > > > > > > > > > > > Peterz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Taggart mentioned scanning in his article on Feng Shui and Reiki. I > > > > > > > was taught to scan as part of Reiki (including for self-Reiki), but > > > > > > > have read articles comparing Reiki to Therapeutic Touch that say that > > > > > > > TT has a diagnostic approach (comparing "energy signatures in > > > > > > > different places") whereas Reiki does not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I was taught: Scan = sense the energy around the person. Hand is > > > > > > > about 6 inches/15cm away (although I also scan higher up - about 3x as > > > > > > > high). Try to sense heat, cold, drops in energy, rises,... anything > > > > > > > that is "different" is worth noting. Often (not always) if I get a > > > > > > > block or drop over somewhere then there is very little energy sense > > > > > > > below that point. Sometimes my hand gets "pulled" somewhere that seems > > > > > > > to want attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also scan by touch, feeling for hot/cold/unusual spots (from a Ki > > > > > > > healing course taught by Aikido teacher). This is usually for > > > > > > > mechanical/muscular problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know who-all does what and what you use it for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PEter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.onreiki.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? > > > > Theo > > > > http://www.byjoke.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? > > Theo > > http://www.byjoke.com/ > > > > -- How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? Theo http://www.byjoke.com/ ###### From: peterz@magma.ca (Peterz) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? Date: 4 May 2003 15:49:00 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 68 Message-ID: <4ef40597.0305041449.7b3a725@posting.google.com> References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> <3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.217.123.201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1052088540 28446 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2003 22:49:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 May 2003 22:49:00 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5518 Well, I had a Taiji/Qiqong teacher tell me no sex for 6 months if you ever want to have qi. Pfui to qi then, I say - I will take Ki instead! Best to all, Peter Theo wrote in message news:<3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net>... > HI > > Peterz wrote: > > > As per another thread Theo, I think that though the detailed models > > are different (stored/birth Qi etc - I started with Taiji/Qiqong), in > > the end Qi and Ki are the same energy. The symbol is the same for > > both. > > yes the same .. but one Qi as more physical and using merdians can get clogged and stagnant > Rei-ki instead passes trought our body so runs as water and cannot stagnate > Qui Gong exercises are like Yoga keeps you busy in absorbing and making teh energy circulate > and sex is a waste of energy > > in Reiki I never heard whatever about sex depleting energy nor to keep the energy circulating ..it circulates only when > neded and that's all ..in Qi gong is better to practices massages > Ba Dua lin ( 8 pieces of Brocade) after Qui Gong to distribute leftover energy > Oh my I should start Qui Gong again and Pranayama too but where to get the time? > namaste > Theo > > > > > p > > > > Theo wrote in message news:<3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net>... > > > HI Peterz > > > > > > Peterz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > -snip- > > > > > > > I have "found" things that I was not told about while doing Reiki, and > > > > correctly identified them in rather astonishing (to me) detail. So I > > > > may suppose that I am correctly interpreting the input that I am > > > > getting. So... to what "higher levels of training" are you referring? > > > > > > thanks to say nicely now what I was trying one of these days to say. > > > I had the same experience.. and what I was doing was even before I did know what Reiki was dealing with .. but I was > > > already dealing with Qi in qi gong > > > yesterday reading a book about what some hand positions cured I realized why I was doing it > > > so energy or the collective incoscious was guiding me or I was tapping into .. higher levels ? > > > will I never know the truth? > > > Theo > > > > > > > ing, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > Visit our Home Study Centre! > > > > > Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five > > > > > Element Healing. > > > > > Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. > > > > > Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3eb599b8.1322917@news.earthlink.net> References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> <3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 11 Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 22:49:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.138.99 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1052088563 165.247.138.99 (Sun, 04 May 2003 15:49:23 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 15:49:23 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5493 On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:59:15 +0200, Theo wrote: > Oh my I should start Qui Gong again and Pranayama too but where to get the time? Just pick the one you have the time and inclination for. Feng shui your energy practices.... ;-) Love and Light, Garry ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3eb5a1ae.3361492@news.earthlink.net> References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> <3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305041449.7b3a725@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 78 Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 23:21:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.138.99 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1052090479 165.247.138.99 (Sun, 04 May 2003 16:21:19 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 16:21:19 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5502 On 4 May 2003 15:49:00 -0700, peterz@magma.ca (Peterz) wrote: >Well, I had a Taiji/Qiqong teacher tell me no sex for 6 months if you >ever want to have qi. > >Pfui to qi then, I say - I will take Ki instead! I've read such things, but none of my in-person teachers have claimed such a thing. namaste, Garry >Best to all, > >Peter > > > > >Theo wrote in message news:<3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net>... >> HI >> >> Peterz wrote: >> >> > As per another thread Theo, I think that though the detailed models >> > are different (stored/birth Qi etc - I started with Taiji/Qiqong), in >> > the end Qi and Ki are the same energy. The symbol is the same for >> > both. >> >> yes the same .. but one Qi as more physical and using merdians can get clogged and stagnant >> Rei-ki instead passes trought our body so runs as water and cannot stagnate >> Qui Gong exercises are like Yoga keeps you busy in absorbing and making teh energy circulate >> and sex is a waste of energy >> >> in Reiki I never heard whatever about sex depleting energy nor to keep the energy circulating ..it circulates only when >> neded and that's all ..in Qi gong is better to practices massages >> Ba Dua lin ( 8 pieces of Brocade) after Qui Gong to distribute leftover energy >> Oh my I should start Qui Gong again and Pranayama too but where to get the time? >> namaste >> Theo >> >> > >> > p >> > >> > Theo wrote in message news:<3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net>... >> > > HI Peterz >> > > >> > > Peterz wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > -snip- >> > > >> > > > I have "found" things that I was not told about while doing Reiki, and >> > > > correctly identified them in rather astonishing (to me) detail. So I >> > > > may suppose that I am correctly interpreting the input that I am >> > > > getting. So... to what "higher levels of training" are you referring? >> > > >> > > thanks to say nicely now what I was trying one of these days to say. >> > > I had the same experience.. and what I was doing was even before I did know what Reiki was dealing with .. but I was >> > > already dealing with Qi in qi gong >> > > yesterday reading a book about what some hand positions cured I realized why I was doing it >> > > so energy or the collective incoscious was guiding me or I was tapping into .. higher levels ? >> > > will I never know the truth? >> > > Theo >> > > >> > > > ing, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk >> > > > > --------------------------------------------- >> > > > > Visit our Home Study Centre! >> > > > > Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five >> > > > > Element Healing. >> > > > > Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. >> > > > > Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. >> > > > > --------------------------------------------- >> > > > > ###### From: "Phoenix" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Does it scan? Lines: 43 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@randori.com - Please include ALL headers, thanks. Organization: http://www.randori.com - Fast, Complete, Great Retention! Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 04:55:14 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.compaq.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news.ticon.net!feed.news.sonic.net!69.22.128.15.MISMATCH!newsfeeder2.randori.com!news.randori.com!6757f691!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5483 Hi, I am new to the group - I am a Reiki teacher and homeopath in India - was in Pune, have shifted to Chennai (Madras) recently. With ref. to scanning - I use it as an optional tool; - you can do distance scanning as well. A normal aura is about 6-8" - while scanning, if you feel the person's energy at that level, things are more or less okay. Should the energy read much more than that, it's a sort of congestion and the aura should be cleansed - sweeping motions of one hand (can explain this better, but don't want to get too verbose!): after which check again to see if energy levels normal. Re-do if ness, and give part or person Reiki. A depletion, on the other hand can just be treated with Reiki. directly. Be warned - the first MANY times I tried scanning, I felt nothing and thought it was all imagination, but hey, it works! "Peterz" wrote in message news:4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com... > Hi all... > > Taggart mentioned scanning in his article on Feng Shui and Reiki. I > was taught to scan as part of Reiki (including for self-Reiki), but > have read articles comparing Reiki to Therapeutic Touch that say that > TT has a diagnostic approach (comparing "energy signatures in > different places") whereas Reiki does not. > > What I was taught: Scan = sense the energy around the person. Hand is > about 6 inches/15cm away (although I also scan higher up - about 3x as > high). Try to sense heat, cold, drops in energy, rises,... anything > that is "different" is worth noting. Often (not always) if I get a > block or drop over somewhere then there is very little energy sense > below that point. Sometimes my hand gets "pulled" somewhere that seems > to want attention. > > I also scan by touch, feeling for hot/cold/unusual spots (from a Ki > healing course taught by Aikido teacher). This is usually for > mechanical/muscular problems. > > I would like to know who-all does what and what you use it for. > > Thanks in advance, > > PEter > > www.onreiki.com ###### Message-ID: <3EB5F7D9.9047C6E8@ch.inter.net> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 07:34:17 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no-spam-byjoke@ch.inter.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> <3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305041449.7b3a725@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.39.201 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.39.201 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1052112840 62.202.39.201 (5 May 2003 07:34:00 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 83 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news2.ip-plus.net,newsfeed2-zh.ip-plus.net!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5442 Hi Peter Well not six months.. once per week if you :-) ejaculate Chi 10 times per day if you don't and keep your Chi it seems it gives you a very sharp mind... never tried ! Namaste Theo Peterz wrote: > Well, I had a Taiji/Qiqong teacher tell me no sex for 6 months if you > ever want to have qi. > > Pfui to qi then, I say - I will take Ki instead! > > Best to all, > > Peter > > Theo wrote in message news:<3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net>... > > HI > > > > Peterz wrote: > > > > > As per another thread Theo, I think that though the detailed models > > > are different (stored/birth Qi etc - I started with Taiji/Qiqong), in > > > the end Qi and Ki are the same energy. The symbol is the same for > > > both. > > > > yes the same .. but one Qi as more physical and using merdians can get clogged and stagnant > > Rei-ki instead passes trought our body so runs as water and cannot stagnate > > Qui Gong exercises are like Yoga keeps you busy in absorbing and making teh energy circulate > > and sex is a waste of energy > > > > in Reiki I never heard whatever about sex depleting energy nor to keep the energy circulating ..it circulates only when > > neded and that's all ..in Qi gong is better to practices massages > > Ba Dua lin ( 8 pieces of Brocade) after Qui Gong to distribute leftover energy > > Oh my I should start Qui Gong again and Pranayama too but where to get the time? > > namaste > > Theo > > > > > > > > p > > > > > > Theo wrote in message news:<3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net>... > > > > HI Peterz > > > > > > > > Peterz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -snip- > > > > > > > > > I have "found" things that I was not told about while doing Reiki, and > > > > > correctly identified them in rather astonishing (to me) detail. So I > > > > > may suppose that I am correctly interpreting the input that I am > > > > > getting. So... to what "higher levels of training" are you referring? > > > > > > > > thanks to say nicely now what I was trying one of these days to say. > > > > I had the same experience.. and what I was doing was even before I did know what Reiki was dealing with .. but I was > > > > already dealing with Qi in qi gong > > > > yesterday reading a book about what some hand positions cured I realized why I was doing it > > > > so energy or the collective incoscious was guiding me or I was tapping into .. higher levels ? > > > > will I never know the truth? > > > > Theo > > > > > > > > > ing, www.reiki-evolution.co.uk > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Visit our Home Study Centre! > > > > > > Learn Reiki Second Degree, Reiki Mastership, "Original Usui Reiki" and Five > > > > > > Element Healing. > > > > > > Comprehensive eBooks, audio CDs with commentary and guided meditations. > > > > > > Graded energy projects to carry out, and ongoing support and advice. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -- How can You put trust in me if I do not trust in Me? Theo http://www.byjoke.com/ ###### Message-ID: <3EB636BB.20E71586@bluewin.ch> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:02:36 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no_spam_byjoke@bluewin.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> <3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net> <3eb599b8.1322917@news.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.102.65 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.102.65 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1052128568 62.202.102.65 (5 May 2003 11:56:08 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 29 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5382 Nadie Niemand wrote: > On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:59:15 +0200, Theo wrote: > > > Oh my I should start Qui Gong again and Pranayama too but where to get the time? > > Just pick the one you have the time and inclination for. Feng shui Hi Garry correct , I am criticizing people that cumulte specializations and I do the same! I have done Qui Gong so I should follow 3 times per week some exrcises in the morning as with light I wake up earlier and -... with warm weather t is easier Pranayama can be done during the day-- :-) somewhere I read also that self healing positions can be done in different moments of the day , of course if you can get energy instantly in hands instead of making some ceremonial it is easier ... er.. Feng Shui ??? you mean as being organized :-)? Namaste theo > > your energy practices.... ;-) > > Love and Light, > > Garry ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3eb63b6d.344994@news.earthlink.net> References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> <3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net> <3eb599b8.1322917@news.earthlink.net> <3EB636BB.20E71586@bluewin.ch> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 12 Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 10:17:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.137.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1052129822 165.247.137.245 (Mon, 05 May 2003 03:17:02 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 03:17:02 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!easynet-quince!easynet.net!cox.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5492 On Mon, 05 May 2003 12:02:36 +0200, Theo wrote: >some ceremonial it is easier ... er.. Feng Shui ??? you mean as being organized >:-)? As in, tossing out all the clutter, ie unneeded junk that doesn't do you any good and just complicates your life. :-) namaskar, Garry ###### Message-ID: <3EB6421D.50AD661F@bluewin.ch> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:51:10 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no_spam_byjoke@bluewin.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Does it scan? References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> <3eb27df6_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> <4ef40597.0305031030.237559a8@posting.google.com> <3EB40DBC.8D42476F@ch.inter.net> <4ef40597.0305040529.419ea14e@posting.google.com> <3EB554F2.F8DC7321@ch.inter.net> <3eb599b8.1322917@news.earthlink.net> <3EB636BB.20E71586@bluewin.ch> <3eb63b6d.344994@news.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.102.65 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.102.65 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1052131482 62.202.102.65 (5 May 2003 12:44:42 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 21 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5386 well in this case we should live with a backpack and that's all .. but I wonder if this sort of life would be valid in a city as it might be valid in the rainforest but it is true that St Augustin said that we should live with averything in order as if we might die any instant.. but hard to do Namaste Theo Nadie Niemand wrote: > On Mon, 05 May 2003 12:02:36 +0200, Theo wrote: > > >some ceremonial it is easier ... er.. Feng Shui ??? you mean as being organized > >:-)? > > As in, tossing out all the clutter, ie unneeded junk that doesn't do > you any good and just complicates your life. :-) > > namaskar, > > Garry ###### From: "Alison" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Does it scan? Lines: 60 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Inktomi-Trace: pc1-rdng2-4-cust50.winn.cable.ntl.com 1052222555 12421 80.5.148.50 (6 May 2003 12:02:35 GMT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:02:35 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.1.224.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net 1052222556 80.1.224.5 (Tue, 06 May 2003 13:02:36 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 13:02:36 BST Organization: ntl News Service Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.222.21.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5580 Hi Phoenix this sounds familiar as I can feel lumps (raised areas) in the aura whenI scan a person directly. Can you tell me how distant scanning works? Alison "Phoenix" wrote in message news:Q8mta.241$zV2.155@news.randori.com... > Hi, I am new to the group - I am a Reiki teacher and homeopath in India - > was in Pune, have shifted to Chennai (Madras) recently. > With ref. to scanning - I use it as an optional tool; - you can do distance > scanning as well. A normal aura is about 6-8" - while scanning, if you feel > the person's energy at that level, things are more or less okay. Should the > energy read much more than that, it's a sort of congestion and the aura > should be cleansed - sweeping motions of one hand (can explain this better, > but don't want to get too verbose!): after which check again to see if > energy levels normal. Re-do if ness, and give part or person Reiki. A > depletion, on the other hand can just be treated with Reiki. directly. Be > warned - the first MANY times I tried scanning, I felt nothing and thought > it was all imagination, but hey, it works! > "Peterz" wrote in message > news:4ef40597.0305020535.a529bad@posting.google.com... > > Hi all... > > > > Taggart mentioned scanning in his article on Feng Shui and Reiki. I > > was taught to scan as part of Reiki (including for self-Reiki), but > > have read articles comparing Reiki to Therapeutic Touch that say that > > TT has a diagnostic approach (comparing "energy signatures in > > different places") whereas Reiki does not. > > > > What I was taught: Scan = sense the energy around the person. Hand is > > about 6 inches/15cm away (although I also scan higher up - about 3x as > > high). Try to sense heat, cold, drops in energy, rises,... anything > > that is "different" is worth noting. Often (not always) if I get a > > block or drop over somewhere then there is very little energy sense > > below that point. Sometimes my hand gets "pulled" somewhere that seems > > to want attention. > > > > I also scan by touch, feeling for hot/cold/unusual spots (from a Ki > > healing course taught by Aikido teacher). This is usually for > > mechanical/muscular problems. > > > > I would like to know who-all does what and what you use it for. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > PEter > > > > www.onreiki.com > >