From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Reiki in Japan Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3ea667fb.2040769@news.earthlink.net> References: <3e9875ec.156765@news.earthlink.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 31 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:22:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.151.211 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1051093377 165.247.151.211 (Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:22:57 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:22:57 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5071 I got a message back from Petter this morning. He says that Reiki is not very well known in Japan yet, and that often Japanese traditional arts have to become well known in the West before the Japanese can rediscover them for themselves. Most of those that do practice Reiki practice a Western version. He couldn't guess at the number of practitioners, but thought it would certainly be less than 100,000. With a population of ~120MM, that's roughly 0.08% of the population if my Jethro Bodine cypherin' is keerect. I got a similar report from someone on the URRI list who said that outside of Reiki circles, it is not well known there, and those that have heard of it think it's some kind of MLM scheme. :-) Anyone else care to offer any experiences, figures or opinions? Gratefully, Garry "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message news:3e9875ec.156765@news.earthlink.net... > Does anyone in ahr know how widespread Reiki is, in whatever form, in > Japan, and how publicly accepted it is? And how does that compare with > other countries? I would be interested to hear any personal > experiences, or if anyone has some reliable figures, that would be > great, too. > > namaste, > > Garry ###### Message-ID: <3EA6940F.47DD10AC@bluewin.ch> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:24:31 +0200 From: Theo Reply-To: no_spam_byjoke@bluewin.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in Japan References: <3e9875ec.156765@news.earthlink.net> <3ea667fb.2040769@news.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.3.71.200 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.3.71.200 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1051103915 213.3.71.200 (23 Apr 2003 15:18:35 +0200) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 42 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5056 How make en inquiry about ? spamming in the net ? or making a door to door questioning ? In Italy is known in french Switzerland and France is known . but at which extent ? No Reiki Newsgroups In Italy or France no in Spain or Portugal No idea in Germany or Nrordic Scandinavian countries (as far as I could find out ) Namaste Theo Nadie Niemand wrote: > I got a message back from Petter this morning. He says that Reiki is > not very well known in Japan yet, and that often Japanese traditional > arts have to become well known in the West before the Japanese can > rediscover them for themselves. Most of those that do practice Reiki > practice a Western version. He couldn't guess at the number of > practitioners, but thought it would certainly be less than 100,000. > With a population of ~120MM, that's roughly 0.08% of the population if > my Jethro Bodine cypherin' is keerect. > > I got a similar report from someone on the URRI list who said that > outside of Reiki circles, it is not well known there, and those that > have heard of it think it's some kind of MLM scheme. :-) > > Anyone else care to offer any experiences, figures or opinions? > > Gratefully, > > Garry > > "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message > news:3e9875ec.156765@news.earthlink.net... > > Does anyone in ahr know how widespread Reiki is, in whatever form, in > > Japan, and how publicly accepted it is? And how does that compare with > > other countries? I would be interested to hear any personal > > experiences, or if anyone has some reliable figures, that would be > > great, too. > > > > namaste, > > > > Garry ###### From: montanevine@netidea.com (montane) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in Japan Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:01:23 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 61 Message-ID: <3ea69aa3.47881018@news.netidea.com> References: <3e9875ec.156765@news.earthlink.net> <3ea667fb.2040769@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-376.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!image.surnet.ru!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5069 Hi, Garry It's nice that you are now in contact with Arjava Petter. I'm just dashing this note off quickly and have not done a detailed search, but here are some things. You might want to Google-search the name Mieko Mitsui (try it in both orders, with the name, because it is Japanese and Mitsui is no doubt the family name -- given first, in Asia). Apparently Ms. Mitsui began researching historical and modern Reiki in Japan in the mid 1980s. I got her name from the site http://www.threshold.ca/reiki/ -- otherwise known as The Reiki Threshold, which is Rick Rivard's site. When on the index page, choose "Experienced" from the buttons on the left margin, and then you will find references to articles published in Japan in 1986 and 2000. By the way, Rick Rivard is quite a nice guy and has been over to Japan fairly recently to meet Reiki people through his friend Hiroshi Doi, so he might be another source of the info you want. Namaskar, montane On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:22:57 GMT, nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) wrote: >I got a message back from Petter this morning. He says that Reiki is >not very well known in Japan yet, and that often Japanese traditional >arts have to become well known in the West before the Japanese can >rediscover them for themselves. Most of those that do practice Reiki >practice a Western version. He couldn't guess at the number of >practitioners, but thought it would certainly be less than 100,000. >With a population of ~120MM, that's roughly 0.08% of the population if >my Jethro Bodine cypherin' is keerect. > >I got a similar report from someone on the URRI list who said that >outside of Reiki circles, it is not well known there, and those that >have heard of it think it's some kind of MLM scheme. :-) > >Anyone else care to offer any experiences, figures or opinions? > >Gratefully, > >Garry > >"Nadie Niemand" wrote in message >news:3e9875ec.156765@news.earthlink.net... >> Does anyone in ahr know how widespread Reiki is, in whatever form, in >> Japan, and how publicly accepted it is? And how does that compare with >> other countries? I would be interested to hear any personal >> experiences, or if anyone has some reliable figures, that would be >> great, too. >> >> namaste, >> >> Garry > ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.144.1.130 Message-ID: <3EA6B9C1.51293A73@shaw.ca> From: Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD telus.net_v5.0.1HS (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in Japan References: <3e9875ec.156765@news.earthlink.net> <3ea667fb.2040769@news.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 47 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:06:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1051113969 24.71.223.147 (Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:06:09 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:06:09 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:5077 Hi Garry, I bumped into this info recently.....not specifying numbers of practitioners in Japan, and an interesting (Canadian) study never-the-less. The link contains a chapter from their book, 'Complementary and Alternative Medicine - Challenge and Change' http://www.utoronto.ca/CAMlab/publications/wellman_part_in_illness_who_helps.html It is lengthy and full of statistics, so I also included the abstract which should provide a 'why or why not' plow through the stats. The researchers indicate that such results would be similar almost anywhere. ----------------------------------------------- Merrijoy Kelner and Beverly Wellman University of Toronto We compare the personal relationships and network characteristics of 300 patients of family physicians with those of patients/clients of chiropractors, acupuncturists/traditional chinese medicine doctors, naturopaths and Reiki practitioners. We examine how perceptions of their health status and choice of practitioner is affected by the social networks in which these relationships are located, their social situations (e.g., paid worker or "homemaker", with or without children or spouse) and sociodemographic characteristics (e.g., age, gender). Preliminary results suggest that those with more wide-ranging social networks (larger, structurally complex, more heterogeneous) are associated with choosing acupuncture, naturopathy and Reiki and not physicians and chiropractors. --------------------------------------------- Rich (waiting for the movie) > Anyone else care to offer any experiences, figures or opinions? > > Gratefully, > > Garry > >