From: "manaus" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: any healing experience? Lines: 10 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.117.83.76 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@tin.it X-Trace: news2.tin.it 1044792091 80.117.83.76 (Sun, 09 Feb 2003 13:01:31 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 13:01:31 MET Organization: TIN Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!newsfeeder.edisontel.com!news-out.tin.it!news-in.tin.it!news2.tin.it.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2930 Hallo, just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real effectiveness? bye m. ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:39:05 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 34 Message-ID: <3e46902f.47758229@news.netidea.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-517.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!tethys.csu.net!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2929 On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" wrote: >Hallo, >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real >effectiveness? > >bye >m. > manaus, I believe the people you would get the best answers from on this newsgroup would be people who have been at it for a while (attuned for years and years), who will have the backlog of experience and the perspective to give you a substantial answer. I think of people like Peggy Jentoft, James Deacon, Chamundi, Gabriel, and Taggart King. I sense that you are looking for a response relating to physical healing. (Or, tell me if I am wrong on this.) Many people will tell you about experiences that relate to their emotional lives and personal sense of empowerment and direction. But I too am interested in Reiki's potential for physical healing. I wait for the more seasoned Reiki-ists to answer. I'll chime in later with a few words about my own positive experiences with physical healing. But I have not yet been involved for even three years with Reiki. Blessings, Joel ###### From: "Serendipity Aromatherapy" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e46902f.47758229@news.netidea.com> Subject: Re: any healing experience? Lines: 57 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:39:32 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.12.147.82 X-Trace: nnrp1.ozemail.com.au 1044833893 63.12.147.82 (Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:38:13 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:38:13 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.optus.net.au!optus!snewsf0.syd.ops.aspac.uu.net!nnrp1.ozemail.com.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2954 Hi there, I have been involved with Reiki for about 8 months and am now at reiki 2 level. I do my self treatments almost every day. I got a wart on a finger about 4 years ago and no matter how many times I had it frozen at the doc's, it never moved. I noticed recently that my wart was shrinking.... and now it has gone. You could attribute it to many things. Personally, I think that reiki helped to clear the mental and emotional blockage that caused the wart to appear in the first place. Now that the causes and conditions are no longer in my mind for a wart to appear (because reiki helped to move them), the wart disappeared. Hope this helps, Christina Serendipity Aromatherapy www.serendipityaromatherapy.com "Joel" wrote in message news:3e46902f.47758229@news.netidea.com... > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" > wrote: > > >Hallo, > >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience > >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are > >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real > >effectiveness? > > > >bye > >m. > > > manaus, > > I believe the people you would get the best answers from on this > newsgroup would be people who have been at it for a while (attuned for > years and years), who will have the backlog of experience and the > perspective to give you a substantial answer. I think of people like > Peggy Jentoft, James Deacon, Chamundi, Gabriel, and Taggart King. > > I sense that you are looking for a response relating to physical > healing. (Or, tell me if I am wrong on this.) Many people will tell > you about experiences that relate to their emotional lives and > personal sense of empowerment and direction. But I too am interested > in Reiki's potential for physical healing. > > I wait for the more seasoned Reiki-ists to answer. I'll chime in > later with a few words about my own positive experiences with physical > healing. But I have not yet been involved for even three years with > Reiki. > > Blessings, > > Joel ###### From: "michael" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <7uH1a.29619$5x6.205518@news20.bellglobal.com> Subject: Re: any healing experience? Lines: 132 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:00:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.132.88.60 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1044860407 144.132.88.60 (Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:00:07 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:00:07 EST Organization: BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.net.au) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!colt.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.algonet.se!algonet!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2962 I think we need to remember that just because we practice Reiki does not stop us being the people we are and our characteristics could very much be important for us to retain for this time on the earth. We are here to learn and to build ourselves. Reiki helps us in the same way that being overweight, addicted, in bad relationships etc. The great thing is that Reiki helps us to espand our understanding. Most important is to understand ourselves. Michael "Vanessa" wrote in message news:7uH1a.29619$5x6.205518@news20.bellglobal.com... > Just for sake of sanity.... It doesn't take a 'seasoned' reiki-ist. Many > just don't see or have trouble acknowledging the gift behind the 'present' > and many develop emotional or mental healings first which we don't tend to > use as a sign that healing is on its way or can be done with more clarity. > Many also have troubles accepting or validating if it was reiki. For the > most part, I noticed it is the disconnection from conventionality, > assumption and impatience that seems to be the 'block' for most. Many stick > to or worry about following what is 'too much or too little'?, how many > sessions, how long at each place etc (you know the very basic instructs and > bare bones you are given to begin with) but doesn't this tend to be the way > when we are learning to 'walk' (our talk(?)) > > Many people don't notice these things, many don't notice that soon it takes > them 4 foolish statements rather than just one before they stomp off in > anger, the scowl they constantly wore has lessened, they look and feel much > younger and lighter, ppl like them better (or differently) as well as > animals (lol and sometimes mosquitos and blackflies like them less ). > > I have noticed that the focus is on the extremes and after seeing quite a > few ppl angry or upset because they can't help them selves nor thier mate > (intstantly), I realized that focussing on the major stories (or the glory) > is what seems to stop most ppl in thier tracks especially when they don't > see the 'steps that are taken' or the steps they have achieved to get > there. I noticed that it is also neglected to mention the 'ahhhhhh that's > beautiful' realizations (to many who never took the time to see it in the > first place) and I noticed that maybe some felt their story of animils > liking them much more, feeling better, or freer, the forum that makes all > knowledge (lol for those who probably would never have listened to anyone > else) seasoned, all 'typos' and struggles less of a concern and the forum > that has enlightened us all because of reiki.... > > First as there is no way to be sure, if you watch the requests for help here > on the newsgroup, some do write back and give updates or results. I have > adopted a way of telling ppl not to 'expect' the same or earth shaking > results but to just see what happens and usually look again after a bit of > time has passed. > > Before I was attuned, I asked for reiki for an up coming dentist > appointment. I had to have all 4 wisdom teeth taken at one time. Along > with the "ROTW's" there were horror stories. I went from having a minor > concern to a bit more panic (and may I add that my other concern was because > of prior operations I had, conventional routine could not be followed). For > some reason tho, I wasn't in total fear as 'non-reiki' ppl advised but my > mind kept on 'knowing' it was going to be ok and my habit was questioning > constantly, why aren't you worried??? I remember joking with the surgeon > and then being told "ok you can go in the other room now". I bled very > little and only had to take 2 pain pills over the next while and was told > later, that it healed surprisingly well. And as a very pleasing added > benefit (altho it took a bit for me to realize this also), finally getting > my wisdom teeth out relieved my migraines considerably :D, enabling less to > trigger one and also enabling me to find some of the cause. > > After my attunement, altho I have had healing abilities (healing others and > casual for myself) for as long as I can remember, and to me most ppls > problems are serious to them, I was quite the bleeder for quite a while and > rather than noticing I was cut by the trail of blood and then healing the > wound, I would notice it because it was there and apply healing. I healed > other's headaches, calmed them before weddings and exams, calmed them enough > to see what would actually help them since reiki at times isn't the only > thing necessary (change of diet, reflexology, talking to someone or letting > go of judgement or forgiveness) a lot of these things were major > realizations for the ppl that I've helped. > > I have spent a lot of time on myself and altho I still have headaches they > are no where near the 5 days a week I used to have but are rather scattered > over months or none at all; the same can be said about my depression or > emotional state(?), I have become, shall I say differently, aware and much > more sensitive to mine and others inner timings and working and my other > abilities have heightened. A freind of mine, had a bag attached because of > crohn's (I think that was what it was) and no longer has that need for it. > 2 people and a possible 3rd, who had many miscarriages got pregnant with > either being in my presence or direct healing from me. I am more > comfortable saying that working on myself is because of reiki as others it > is more questionable as is it reiki or medicine or better timing? > > Just my ramblings, Blessed Be, > Vanessa > > "manaus" wrote in message > news:vqr1a.208374$AA2.8174056@news2.tin.it... > > Hallo, > > just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience > > from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are > > overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it > real > > effectiveness? > > > > bye > > m. > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 31/12/2002 > > ###### From: "Vanessa" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: Subject: Re: any healing experience? Lines: 99 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: <7uH1a.29619$5x6.205518@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:17:11 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.209.138.41 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1044857859 216.209.138.41 (Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:17:39 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:17:39 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!torn!webster!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2958 Just for sake of sanity.... It doesn't take a 'seasoned' reiki-ist. Many just don't see or have trouble acknowledging the gift behind the 'present' and many develop emotional or mental healings first which we don't tend to use as a sign that healing is on its way or can be done with more clarity. Many also have troubles accepting or validating if it was reiki. For the most part, I noticed it is the disconnection from conventionality, assumption and impatience that seems to be the 'block' for most. Many stick to or worry about following what is 'too much or too little'?, how many sessions, how long at each place etc (you know the very basic instructs and bare bones you are given to begin with) but doesn't this tend to be the way when we are learning to 'walk' (our talk(?)) Many people don't notice these things, many don't notice that soon it takes them 4 foolish statements rather than just one before they stomp off in anger, the scowl they constantly wore has lessened, they look and feel much younger and lighter, ppl like them better (or differently) as well as animals (lol and sometimes mosquitos and blackflies like them less ). I have noticed that the focus is on the extremes and after seeing quite a few ppl angry or upset because they can't help them selves nor thier mate (intstantly), I realized that focussing on the major stories (or the glory) is what seems to stop most ppl in thier tracks especially when they don't see the 'steps that are taken' or the steps they have achieved to get there. I noticed that it is also neglected to mention the 'ahhhhhh that's beautiful' realizations (to many who never took the time to see it in the first place) and I noticed that maybe some felt their story of animils liking them much more, feeling better, or freer, the forum that makes all knowledge (lol for those who probably would never have listened to anyone else) seasoned, all 'typos' and struggles less of a concern and the forum that has enlightened us all because of reiki.... First as there is no way to be sure, if you watch the requests for help here on the newsgroup, some do write back and give updates or results. I have adopted a way of telling ppl not to 'expect' the same or earth shaking results but to just see what happens and usually look again after a bit of time has passed. Before I was attuned, I asked for reiki for an up coming dentist appointment. I had to have all 4 wisdom teeth taken at one time. Along with the "ROTW's" there were horror stories. I went from having a minor concern to a bit more panic (and may I add that my other concern was because of prior operations I had, conventional routine could not be followed). For some reason tho, I wasn't in total fear as 'non-reiki' ppl advised but my mind kept on 'knowing' it was going to be ok and my habit was questioning constantly, why aren't you worried??? I remember joking with the surgeon and then being told "ok you can go in the other room now". I bled very little and only had to take 2 pain pills over the next while and was told later, that it healed surprisingly well. And as a very pleasing added benefit (altho it took a bit for me to realize this also), finally getting my wisdom teeth out relieved my migraines considerably :D, enabling less to trigger one and also enabling me to find some of the cause. After my attunement, altho I have had healing abilities (healing others and casual for myself) for as long as I can remember, and to me most ppls problems are serious to them, I was quite the bleeder for quite a while and rather than noticing I was cut by the trail of blood and then healing the wound, I would notice it because it was there and apply healing. I healed other's headaches, calmed them before weddings and exams, calmed them enough to see what would actually help them since reiki at times isn't the only thing necessary (change of diet, reflexology, talking to someone or letting go of judgement or forgiveness) a lot of these things were major realizations for the ppl that I've helped. I have spent a lot of time on myself and altho I still have headaches they are no where near the 5 days a week I used to have but are rather scattered over months or none at all; the same can be said about my depression or emotional state(?), I have become, shall I say differently, aware and much more sensitive to mine and others inner timings and working and my other abilities have heightened. A freind of mine, had a bag attached because of crohn's (I think that was what it was) and no longer has that need for it. 2 people and a possible 3rd, who had many miscarriages got pregnant with either being in my presence or direct healing from me. I am more comfortable saying that working on myself is because of reiki as others it is more questionable as is it reiki or medicine or better timing? Just my ramblings, Blessed Be, Vanessa "manaus" wrote in message news:vqr1a.208374$AA2.8174056@news2.tin.it... > Hallo, > just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience > from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are > overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real > effectiveness? > > bye > m. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 31/12/2002 ###### From: wolf@reiki.net (ShadowWolf) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? Date: 10 Feb 2003 04:14:36 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 49 Message-ID: <7e8900b5.0302100414.576405d0@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.164.49.15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1044879276 22520 127.0.0.1 (10 Feb 2003 12:14:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Feb 2003 12:14:36 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com!hub1.meganetnews.com!nntpserver.com!telocity-west!DIRECTV!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2960 "manaus" wrote in message news:... > Hallo, > just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience > from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are > overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real > effectiveness? > > bye > m. Good question. Yes there are definately positive healing results on the physical,Mental, emotional levels that can be obvious to self and others. (I purposely omitted Spiritual because I maintain that as a personal and private area) The most important thing in learning and experiencing Reiki is the use of Reiki. You will only learn theory if all you do is distant work and read about it. Take the time to use reiki on others and you will see things that you never thought possible. Every Time? Absolutely Not! Some changes are not visable and although we believe that Reiki always does something we can not prove or demonstrate such a belief. The results in Reiki treatments for the same condition in different people is not consistant. My favorite saying is "Reiki is consistently inconsistant" However if you do take the time to share reiki here are a few things you may be fortunate enought to experience first hand. Swelling and discoloration completely or particialy disapearing Absyes (Sp?) healing in a spontanous manner. Relief of Pain from physical injuries or strains There are many things that you may experience but again, You have to do Reiki to experience what it can do. You have to keep doing Reiki even when you do not see immediate results from your efforts. ShadowWolf PS Do not discount the work you do distantly, it is important and effective, iy k=just is not the same as hands on. ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:47:57 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3e47bac9.60977212@news.netidea.com> References: <7uH1a.29619$5x6.205518@news20.bellglobal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-690.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!luth.se!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!140.99.99.194.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2952 On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:17:11 -0600, "Vanessa" wrote: > >Many people don't notice these things, many don't notice that soon it takes >them 4 foolish statements rather than just one before they stomp off in >anger, the scowl they constantly wore has lessened, they look and feel much >younger and lighter, ppl like them better (or differently) as well as >animals (lol and sometimes mosquitos and blackflies like them less ). > I don't forget. (, LOL, he, he, he) Joel ###### From: lois_la_pudding@hotmail.com (Lois LaPudding) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:26:56 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 38 Message-ID: <3e497494.29006728@news.netidea.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-953.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!luth.se!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!mtvwca1-snh1.ops.genuity.net!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2985 On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" wrote: >Hallo, >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real >effectiveness? > >bye >m. > I have been a lurker here for a long time. But i am pretty exited about reiki! i got my Reiki2 over a year ago. It /does/ heal i can tell youthat. I helped a friend of mine who had lower back pain. I just did the hand positions on him and gave extra time to his bak after. After a couple of times he said it was much bet er. i do the self healing too. I used to have a lot of sniffles every morning and now i have a lot less. I used it on o tooth ache onvce and it helped in just a few moments. !!!!!! I have a cocker spaniel-Irish setter cross named Bill Baggins. He really likes reiki and i like to send it too him in the evening, makes him calm. I give it to him it he has hurt his paw or something & seems to make it better. He licks my hand.. lois ###### Message-ID: <3E4A46C6.6C5E2477@bluewin.ch> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:06:15 +0100 From: Theo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr,it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? References: <3e497494.29006728@news.netidea.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------754BB87B584896D57CD07C8B" NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.19.41 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.19.41 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1045055012 62.202.19.41 (12 Feb 2003 14:03:32 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 84 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2995 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------754BB87B584896D57CD07C8B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hard to say:-) I had a bad loooking varice.. and passing massage with my hands every evening it was reabsorbed just the skin around is a little darker-- it was before I started Reiki.. I can stop my toot ache ( mild) when I have some.. I put Reiki on it .. no problem with headaches.. I have almost none.. I had an unpleasant hack end after it had been bothering me for months left few weeks after I started just using my hands.. otherwise nothing more outstanding than that .. Unfortunately I cannot practice on other persons as in my close family they flee me if I dare offering that ..( I tried :-) ) nor mentioning about with my friends.. ( they already think I am a little bit out of the box) I am trying on plants now .. but even my dog bitch flees me when I start doing HATSUREI- HO-- a bad omen maybe ? I am sending Reiki to people that needs help( when in bad health) even if they do not ask me personally , that's all what I can do .. Namaste Theo Lois LaPudding wrote: > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" > wrote: > > >Hallo, > >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience > >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are > >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real > >effectiveness? > > > >bye > >m. > > > > I have been a lurker here for a long time. But i am > pretty exited about reiki! i got my Reiki2 over a year > ago. It /does/ heal i can tell youthat. > > I helped a friend of mine who had lower back pain. I > just did the hand positions on him and gave extra time > to his bak after. After a couple of times he said it > was much bet er. > > i do the self healing too. I used to have a lot of > sniffles every morning and now i have a lot less. I > used it on o tooth ache onvce and it helped in just a > few moments. !!!!!! > > I have a cocker spaniel-Irish setter cross named Bill > Baggins. He really likes reiki and i like to send it > too him in the evening, makes him calm. I give it to > him it he has hurt his paw or something & seems to make > it better. He licks my hand.. > > lois --------------754BB87B584896D57CD07C8B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="byjoke.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Theo Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="byjoke.vcf" begin:vcard n:S.N.C.;Mauro Lattes & José Vargas tel;fax:+41 022 310 91 02 tel;work:+41 022 310 91 01 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:byjoke@ch.inter.net fn:SPRINTERS end:vcard --------------754BB87B584896D57CD07C8B-- ###### From: "Taggart King" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e497494.29006728@news.netidea.com> <3E4A46C6.6C5E2477@bluewin.ch> Subject: Re: any healing experience? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:27:19 -0000 Lines: 83 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-62-64-227-104.access.uk.tiscali.com Message-ID: <3e4a4bca_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> X-Trace: 12 Feb 2003 13:27:38 GMT, dial-62-64-227-104.access.uk.tiscali.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!dial-62-64-227-104.access.uk.tiscali.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2991 Hi Theo, I don't think it's a bad omen when your dog runs away during hatsurei. I think they can probably see energy and she's quite surprised to see you emanating! Best wishes, Taggart "Theo" wrote in message news:3E4A46C6.6C5E2477@bluewin.ch... > hard to say:-) > I had a bad loooking varice.. and passing massage with my hands every > evening it was reabsorbed just the skin around is a little darker-- it was > before I started Reiki.. I can stop my toot ache ( mild) when I have some.. I > put Reiki on it .. no problem with headaches.. I have almost none.. > I had an unpleasant hack end after it had been bothering me for months > left few weeks after I started just using my hands.. > otherwise nothing more outstanding than that .. Unfortunately I cannot > practice on other persons as in my close family they flee me if I dare > offering that ..( I tried :-) ) nor mentioning about with my friends.. ( they > already think I am a little bit out of the box) I am trying on plants now .. but > even my dog bitch flees me when I start doing HATSUREI- HO-- a bad omen maybe ? > > I am sending Reiki to people that needs help( when in bad health) even if they > do not ask me personally , that's all what I can do .. > Namaste > Theo > > > > > Lois LaPudding wrote: > > > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" > > wrote: > > > > >Hallo, > > >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience > > >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are > > >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real > > >effectiveness? > > > > > >bye > > >m. > > > > > > > I have been a lurker here for a long time. But i am > > pretty exited about reiki! i got my Reiki2 over a year > > ago. It /does/ heal i can tell youthat. > > > > I helped a friend of mine who had lower back pain. I > > just did the hand positions on him and gave extra time > > to his bak after. After a couple of times he said it > > was much bet er. > > > > i do the self healing too. I used to have a lot of > > sniffles every morning and now i have a lot less. I > > used it on o tooth ache onvce and it helped in just a > > few moments. !!!!!! > > > > I have a cocker spaniel-Irish setter cross named Bill > > Baggins. He really likes reiki and i like to send it > > too him in the evening, makes him calm. I give it to > > him it he has hurt his paw or something & seems to make > > it better. He licks my hand.. > > > > lois > ###### Message-ID: <3E4A532D.A1AF67BA@bluewin.ch> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:59:09 +0100 From: Theo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr,it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? References: <3e497494.29006728@news.netidea.com> <3E4A46C6.6C5E2477@bluewin.ch> <3e4a4bca_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DB44FB6133A93C5E0FB634FA" NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.19.41 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.202.19.41 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1045058187 62.202.19.41 (12 Feb 2003 14:56:27 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 126 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2999 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DB44FB6133A93C5E0FB634FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI Taggart King or Mr Taggart King.. you have a very impressive name:-) Well thanks for answering .. I am in the office right now and we have one of the secretaries that had a twisted ankle since few day.. a bad twist so I decided to treat her right now ! I put her seated and took her ankle on my leg to have it horizontal and put my hands during 10 minutes about .She said she was feeling very cold in the ankle almost painful.. we stop than when the time was over and she said she feels better right now I think that I will apply again hands every other day and we will see.... what do you suggest ? Thanks again for your feed back ! Namaste Theo Taggart King wrote: > Hi Theo, > > I don't think it's a bad omen when your dog runs away during hatsurei. I > think they can probably see energy and she's quite surprised to see you > emanating! > > Best wishes, > > Taggart > > "Theo" wrote in message > news:3E4A46C6.6C5E2477@bluewin.ch... > > hard to say:-) > > I had a bad loooking varice.. and passing massage with my hands every > > evening it was reabsorbed just the skin around is a little darker-- it > was > > before I started Reiki.. I can stop my toot ache ( mild) when I have > some.. I > > put Reiki on it .. no problem with headaches.. I have almost none.. > > I had an unpleasant hack end after it had been bothering me for > months > > left few weeks after I started just using my hands.. > > otherwise nothing more outstanding than that .. Unfortunately I cannot > > practice on other persons as in my close family they flee me if I dare > > offering that ..( I tried :-) ) nor mentioning about with my friends.. > ( they > > already think I am a little bit out of the box) I am trying on plants now > .. but > > even my dog bitch flees me when I start doing HATSUREI- HO-- a bad omen > maybe ? > > > > I am sending Reiki to people that needs help( when in bad health) even > if they > > do not ask me personally , that's all what I can do .. > > Namaste > > Theo > > > > > > > > > > Lois LaPudding wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Hallo, > > > >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing > experience > > > >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are > > > >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it > real > > > >effectiveness? > > > > > > > >bye > > > >m. > > > > > > > > > > I have been a lurker here for a long time. But i am > > > pretty exited about reiki! i got my Reiki2 over a year > > > ago. It /does/ heal i can tell youthat. > > > > > > I helped a friend of mine who had lower back pain. I > > > just did the hand positions on him and gave extra time > > > to his bak after. After a couple of times he said it > > > was much bet er. > > > > > > i do the self healing too. I used to have a lot of > > > sniffles every morning and now i have a lot less. I > > > used it on o tooth ache onvce and it helped in just a > > > few moments. !!!!!! > > > > > > I have a cocker spaniel-Irish setter cross named Bill > > > Baggins. He really likes reiki and i like to send it > > > too him in the evening, makes him calm. I give it to > > > him it he has hurt his paw or something & seems to make > > > it better. He licks my hand.. > > > > > > lois > > --------------DB44FB6133A93C5E0FB634FA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="byjoke.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Theo Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="byjoke.vcf" begin:vcard n:S.N.C.;Mauro Lattes & José Vargas tel;fax:+41 022 310 91 02 tel;work:+41 022 310 91 01 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:byjoke@ch.inter.net fn:SPRINTERS end:vcard --------------DB44FB6133A93C5E0FB634FA-- ###### From: "Chamundi" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e46902f.47758229@news.netidea.com> Subject: Re: any healing experience? Lines: 48 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1123 X-Inktomi-Trace: pc3-broo3-4-cust20.renf.cable.ntl.com 1045840411 12971 81.104.241.20 (21 Feb 2003 15:13:31 GMT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:13:38 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.1.224.4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net 1045840411 80.1.224.4 (Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:13:31 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:13:31 GMT Organization: ntl News Service Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.linkpendium.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!west.cox.net!cox.net!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:3178 Experience or length of experience is irrelevant a Reiki practitioner is a Reiki practitioner and the experience of each is equally valid. The answer to the question is yes. I personally have not documented any cases but there is an interesting article in last winters edition of Connections magazine. BB, bH Chamundi "Joel" wrote in message news:3e46902f.47758229@news.netidea.com... > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" > wrote: > > >Hallo, > >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience > >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are > >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real > >effectiveness? > > > >bye > >m. > > > manaus, > > I believe the people you would get the best answers from on this > newsgroup would be people who have been at it for a while (attuned for > years and years), who will have the backlog of experience and the > perspective to give you a substantial answer. I think of people like > Peggy Jentoft, James Deacon, Chamundi, Gabriel, and Taggart King. > > I sense that you are looking for a response relating to physical > healing. (Or, tell me if I am wrong on this.) Many people will tell > you about experiences that relate to their emotional lives and > personal sense of empowerment and direction. But I too am interested > in Reiki's potential for physical healing. > > I wait for the more seasoned Reiki-ists to answer. I'll chime in > later with a few words about my own positive experiences with physical > healing. But I have not yet been involved for even three years with > Reiki. > > Blessings, > > Joel ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:15:36 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 41 Message-ID: <3e564efa.12161718@news.netidea.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-144.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:3183 On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" wrote: >Hallo, >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real >effectiveness? > >bye >m. > > manaus, You never clarified if, in fact, you were asking about physical healing. I can only assume you were. Originally, I suggested that the extra time in months and years spent by some individuals who post here would offer a larger backlog of experience and observation. I felt you would get better answers from these people, and it is still possible that more of them will join this thread. In any case, I noticed the following physical results from self-healing over a couple of years: an increase in daily physical energy level (by maybe 25 or 30 percent); a great reduction of a chronic conjunctivitis in my left eye (a condition of 25 years standing); elimination of "granulation" of the eyelids of both eyes (a condition since the age of 8 or 9); a reduction of annual colds/flu from one every three months, to one about every six months. Personally, I have not noticed any speeding of the healing of scrapes, cuts, or bruises when I get them -- but I believe some people here have reported that they *have* noticed this. Well, I still hope more people will join in here. Blessings, Joel ###### Message-ID: <3E566FA5.D68F2913@ch.inter.net.nospam> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:27:49 +0100 From: Theo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,it,fr-FR MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? References: <3e564efa.12161718@news.netidea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.89.46 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.89.46 X-Trace: news.bluewin.ch 1045852064 62.203.89.46 (21 Feb 2003 19:27:44 +0100) Organization: Bluewin AG Lines: 23 Complaints-To: abuse@bluewin.ch X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.bluewin.ch!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:3189   Joel wrote: > Personally, I have not noticed any speeding of the healing of scrapes, > cuts, or bruises when I get them -- but I believe some people here > have reported that they *have* noticed this. >   Hi no I cicatrize very quickly so  even if Reiki helps   is not noticeable..  But I remember many years ago when my doughter had a scratch on her  leg I passed the hand over it and  few hours later she made me notice that  had completely disappeared .. it was the first and last time ( for teh moment) I sow that in  my whole life !  Theo >   > Well, I still hope more people will join in here. > > Blessings, > > Joel ###### Lines: 31 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: carolsings@aol.com (Carolsings) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Date: 22 Feb 2003 12:32:14 GMT References: <3e564efa.12161718@news.netidea.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: any healing experience? Message-ID: <20030222073214.11161.00000695@mb-dh.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!luth.se!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed3.newsreader.com!newsreader.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:3218 HI I had to answer your inquiry - I happen to be a Reiki master who works on others and teaches others who is overweight. I became overweight through years of yo yo dieting and also past health problems and surgeries that happened before I became enlightened and brought Reiki into my life. I consider my weight and how I gained it and now my constant struggle with it, one of my life lessons, which we all have.I live a happy wonderful life - am I judged by others yes..but I no longer look for acceptance from everyone, as I know in this judgemental society I won't get it .I still struggle with my weight because for years I abused my body - now I no longer do but struggle with the results that are all too common with overweight people - lack of metabolism. I have a lot more energy than I ever did and my eating habits are so much healthier and I choose not to diet anymore -it is not healthy for me. Being overweight and able to walk for miles and sing with a band and be healthier than people half my age and size is working for me .. My clients are people that the universe places in my path and they see the person inside my weight is never an issue. And yes I have seen other Reiki healers/practioners who have chronic diseases also - they struggling with their life lesson. Having a chronic disease also helps them to be so much more compassionate with their clients than someone who has never experienced any health issues - Because they chose -or life dealt them a chronic disease they went searching and found Reiki and now have lessened their symtoms and are more comfortable and having a better quality of life than those who don't find something - whether it be Reiki or another modality. Bringing Reiki into my life has helped me to be heathier , happier, helped my entire family, helped keep me peaceful through a divorce and coping with a daughter with diabetes. It is not a quick fix - when someone really embraces it - it may become a way of life or a calling. My clients who have chronic diesease now still have pain, but they are learning ways to deal with that pain and it no longer controls them.. I hope I answered some of your questions :) Carolyn ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:06:35 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 58 Message-ID: <3e5e4473.37136628@news.netidea.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-846.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.linkpendium.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:3319 On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" wrote: >Hallo, >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real >effectiveness? > >bye >m. Thought I'd take the liberty to paste-in a story told by "Sasa" on this newsgroup on October 17, 2000. The rest of the words in this post are those of S (and *thanks*, Sasa): Hi! Sorry if my English is not to good. (I am from Croatia) I was diagnosed with MS in 1996. The prognoses from the doctors was wery dark (from invalid chear to eventualy death) After release from hospital one friend was giving me bio-energetic treatments. It helped. But only in the way that I wasn't get any worse. He kept me in status quo, for what I am very thankfull to him. During that time I was confused, the whole life come upside down. I start to surch different kind of methodes to help my selfe. In that time I never heard for Reiki. And than, Reiki teacher find me. She told me that there is no other person that can cure me but myselve. I was initiated in Reiki I, and stop to go to bio-energetic treatments. The result was the same. Not worse, but not better (doctors said it will be worse). 3 months later I was initiated in Reiki II. After that things started to hapend. I was geting better and better and not only regarding MS. I was getting better person in any way. In 1998 I felt better then before I get sick. I have been to the doctors, and thay couldn't find anything. Now I have Reiki IIIA, and don't ask me how I know, but I know that if I stop to practice Reiki, MS will be back. But who cairs. Who wants to stop practicing Reiki. Now. How I did it. It was combination of Reiki and creative visualisation. During Reiki treatments I was always visualisating scene in which I came to doctors ordination, and doctor tells me that I am in perfect healt. (you will not be suprised if I tell you that it was exactly the scene that hapend 2 years later). I was doing that 2 years, every day 2-3 times a day. Each treatment app. 1 hour Now it is a habit (a good one). Treatments are not so long any more, but since I have rid of MS, I started to develop myselfe im many ways. I hope that this expirince will help you and everybody with similars problems. Greatings, Sasa ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: any healing experience? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 19:04:14 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 57 Message-ID: <3e63a5d1.4634519@news.netidea.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-970.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!newsfeed.bc.tac.net!cyclone.bc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:3443 On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:01:31 GMT, "manaus" wrote: >Hallo, >just wondering if there has been in the past any real healing experience >from a suffering, due to reiki therapy. I know reiki masters who are >overweight or with serious problems. Is it is used as a patch or has it real >effectiveness? > >bye >m. > I keep waiting for more postings from our group here, in response to the question by manaus. The response has been limited, and somehow I believe it is because people shy away from a spotlight being put on their own experience (and seem more likely to share that experience when they are not self-conscious about it). So once again, I've taken the liberty of reproducing the major portion of a post by Amy Rowland (ahr archives 1997/02/04), assuming Amy wouldn't mind: When a friend mentioned to me that she was considering selling her horse because she had spent all her savings -- $750 -- on vet bills and the vet had given up, I told her that I had just learned "this thing" called Reiki and I would be willing to try it if she would hold the horse still, because it might work -- and if it didn't, no big deal. So we went out to the barn and my friend got Holly out of her stall… So I knelt down beside Holly and put my hands on [the hoof] and felt like them go !!!!!****&&&&!!! zing, zing, zing!!! right away. It felt like I was holding an energy slinky and it was just going back and forth, back and forth, between my hands, on either side of the lame hoof. After a few minutes, my friend said, "Hey, she must like it. Look at her back legs. She's gone to sleep...." So I stayed out there on my knees in the barn for about forty-five minutes (till my hands turned off) and then I visited again four or five times in the next two weeks. Always, she was completely willing to receive Reiki. Then my friend called me to tell me her good news. Holly had "passed three abscesses" through the hoof cartilage and the vet couldn't explain it, but that was clearly what had been wrong. My friend starting walking her, then training her to jump, and ultimately took her to horse shows. [end] I don't believe autosuggestion or suggestion or placebo was involved here in the horse's improvement and healing -- but that's just my personal veiw. Blessings, Joel