From: Chacal Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:42:44 +0000 Organization: changelater Lines: 35 Sender: Ted Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.137.21.35 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 1042404148 29756 62.137.21.35 (12 Jan 2003 20:42:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Jan 2003 20:42:28 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!charted.freeserve.co.uk!ted Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2447 Hi, I thought I'd come out of lurking mode to ask a question that is bothering me. Is it possible to loose your Reiki? I was attuned to Reiki level 2 about three years ago. Though I hardly have the time to practice on others, I reiki myself almost daily. I sit in front of the TV and give myself reiki for the entire length of a film, sometimes longer. In spite of this my health hasn't been all that great lately. I've had shingles twice since November. I am better now after a course of tablets and just time. Reiki didn't seem to do all that much for me or speed it up. Recently I've had an allergic reaction that left one of my eyes swollen, red and streaming. Still Reiki didn't help. I am better now thanks to the antibiotic drops that the doctor prescribed. I am also having a very bad cold since the beginning of the year. My throat is swollen and it's painful to swallow, my ears are blocked and can't hear all that well at times, according to the doctor they are a bit infected. Still, no amount of Reiki seems to make any difference, and since the doctor didn't give me anything for this I have to put up with it until it goes. Reiki doesn't seem to help, even though last night I spent the entire evening reiking myself. I don't get it. Either my Reiki "touch" has gone, or perhaps Reiki doesn't work all that well after all.. I think in moments of crisis you have to go back to conventional medicine, or perhaps to other forms of therapy. When I lie in bed at night I often get attacks of coughing, with the risk of waking up my partner and the whole house! So it's not reiki that helps me at those times, but Acupressure. I lie in bed pressing the acupressure points for coughs and it goes away. I think reiki enhances your life when you are well, but if you are sick you have to look for help elsewhere.. It's at moments like this that I feel like a dissatisfied customer. All that money spent doing my reiki attunements.. I want my money back!! Chacal ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 66 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:22:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.133.214 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1042406541 165.247.133.214 (Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:22:21 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:22:21 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!news-xfer.cox.net!cox.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2400 Chacal, good to hear from you! OK, so how do you know the Reiki didn't help? Maybe without it you would have turned belly up and died from your common cold. ;-) Seriously, maybe something else needed healing more seriously than the things that *you* thought needed healing. Perhaps even your understanding about Reiki is what needs healing, and this is being brought up now so that you can dig into it. As for your statement that medical help is necessary in a moment of crisis--damn straight it is! Reiki isn't a magic wand, any more than any other modality. How many times have you been told that when we give Reiki, we are not supposed to be attached to outcomes? And what is the reason for us being told that? Just something to think about. That said, has there ever been a time for you when Reiki was noticably helpful? Are we throwing those times out with the bathwater? BTW, no, you haven't "lost" your Reiki. It's there forever, or for as long as you live, whichever warranty runs out first. Hope this has been helpful! Love and Light, Garry On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:42:44 +0000, Chacal wrote: >Hi, I thought I'd come out of lurking mode to ask a question that is >bothering me. Is it possible to loose your Reiki? >I was attuned to Reiki level 2 about three years ago. Though I hardly >have the time to practice on others, I reiki myself almost daily. I sit >in front of the TV and give myself reiki for the entire length of a >film, sometimes longer. In spite of this my health hasn't been all that >great lately. I've had shingles twice since November. I am better now >after a course of tablets and just time. Reiki didn't seem to do all >that much for me or speed it up. Recently I've had an allergic reaction >that left one of my eyes swollen, red and streaming. Still Reiki didn't >help. I am better now thanks to the antibiotic drops that the doctor >prescribed. I am also having a very bad cold since the beginning of the >year. My throat is swollen and it's painful to swallow, my ears are >blocked and can't hear all that well at times, according to the doctor >they are a bit infected. Still, no amount of Reiki seems to make any >difference, and since the doctor didn't give me anything for this I have >to put up with it until it goes. Reiki doesn't seem to help, even though >last night I spent the entire evening reiking myself. >I don't get it. Either my Reiki "touch" has gone, or perhaps Reiki >doesn't work all that well after all.. >I think in moments of crisis you have to go back to conventional >medicine, or perhaps to other forms of therapy. When I lie in bed at >night I often get attacks of coughing, with the risk of waking up my >partner and the whole house! So it's not reiki that helps me at those >times, but Acupressure. I lie in bed pressing the acupressure points for >coughs and it goes away. >I think reiki enhances your life when you are well, but if you are sick >you have to look for help elsewhere.. >It's at moments like this that I feel like a dissatisfied customer. All >that money spent doing my reiki attunements.. I want my money back!! > >Chacal > > > ###### From: "Soul Purpose" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 8 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:42:51 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.40.197.117 X-Trace: newsfeeds.bigpond.com 1042407569 203.40.197.117 (Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:39:29 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:39:29 EST Organization: Telstra BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.com) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!intgwlon.nntp.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!newsfeeds.bigpond.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2435 Hi Chacal, Just a thought, it might be worth asking for Reiki from here (AHR). You never know, maybe a whole lot of Reiki from all over the world might help! Love and Light, Danni ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:56 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: public2-bolt3-3-cust49.oldh.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.49) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1042408623 19875170 80.2.124.49 (16 [41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!public2-bolt3-3-cust49.oldh.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2444 Hey Chacal (ex-Lurker) ... My RM used to say that if you're ill, take a pill ... There's nothing wrong with conventional medicine and hopefully no-one thinks that alternative / complementary medicine is any kind of substitute ... My thoughts are that if you're dealing with the base physical, use the physical ... Stuart ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:32:28 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 69 Message-ID: <3e221fb1.104577804@news.netidea.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-120.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!cyclone.bc.net!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newshub.northeast.verio.net!verio!newspeer.monmouth.com!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2393 On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:42:44 +0000, Chacal wrote: >Reiki doesn't seem to help, even though >last night I spent the entire evening reiking myself. >I don't get it. Either my Reiki "touch" has gone, or perhaps Reiki >doesn't work all that well after all. Hi, Chacal. This relates to some very big questions about Reiki. And yours is not the first post to open these questions up. I think we have all been learning about the patterns by which Reiki works. Yet it seems that either a lot is not known, with any "firm grasp," or that people have only been willing to speak of these things to a *certain* extent -- everyone, understandably, wants to remain positive. >I think in moments of crisis you have to go back to conventional >medicine, or perhaps to other forms of therapy. When I lie in bed at >night I often get attacks of coughing, with the risk of waking up my >partner and the whole house! So it's not reiki that helps me at those >times, but Acupressure. I lie in bed pressing the acupressure points for >coughs and it goes away. >I think reiki enhances your life when you are well, but if you are sick >you have to look for help elsewhere. Even getting your third level Reiki does not make you into "a master" in the sense that the word is applied to many other arts, Asian or Western. One of the comforting ideas that I am willing to accept, tentatively, is the one that Hiroshi Doi-sensei puts forward: attunements are not enough -- we have to do Reiki sessions (on self and others) and also engage in meditative exercises, all of which develop the ability to channel Reiki more effectively. Doi-sensei communicates that this is the Japanese understanding, as differentiated from the Western desire for "instant" learning, instant effectiveness. The energy is universal, and "not our own," but we must learn through practice to make use of it better. >It's at moments like this that I feel like a dissatisfied customer. All >that money spent doing my reiki attunements.. I want my money back!! > >Chacal > One of the reasons that I enjoy this newsgroup is that people do give feedback. You can ask questions, and generally you will get at least a few responses. Answers based on reason or experience will not, of course, walk the path for you. Answers that people can formulate in words are just "painted cakes" -- and "painted cakes do not satisfy hunger." There is not substitute for each of us working at becoming better healers. I have e-mailed back and forth with some people who, in terms of their individual life story, seem to be natural healers -- for whom healing ability showed itself in youth, long before they got their first Reiki attunement. These people may start out in an advanced position, when they receive their attunements. (Mozart was writing significant classical music by time he was 10, whereas many other musicians and composers are fortunate if they have mastered the piano part for one of his compositions by time they are 28.) The rest of us must work to progress, though I do not mean to strain or try to force anything. Having said all this, I am truly amazed in some ways at what Reiki has done for me emotionally, mentally, and even physically. But I still find physical healing to be the toughest nut to crack, in general. Blessings, Joel ###### From: "Vanessa" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 36 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:03:51 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.208.85.160 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1042427052 216.208.85.160 (Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:04:12 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:04:12 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.magnet.ch!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!torn!webster!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2420 Maybe reikiing the medicine would be of help or reikiing something else... If you have an allergy to something, have had shingles 2 times since November, maybe the allergy and or the allergy has left some 'damage', the doctor isn't seeing something and this is why nothing is helping. I can't help remembering the person that wrote about her sick horse who just wasn't getting better despite vet care and reiki. The horse had a cut that just wouldn't heal. At some point it was discovered that this horse had a sliver or something where this cut was, and if the cut had of healed over, I imagine there would have been more pain and possible serious infection for the horse, of course it would have been a relief for the owner. I find it odd that your doctor wouldn't give you meds for this last infection, but have you sought a second opinion or dug deep into his opinion. Good Luck, Blessed Be, Vanessa "Soul Purpose" wrote in message news:lglU9.22435$jM5.60311@newsfeeds.bigpond.com... > Hi Chacal, > > Just a thought, it might be worth asking for Reiki from here (AHR). You > never know, maybe a whole lot of Reiki from all over the world might help! > > Love and Light, Danni > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/2002 ###### From: Chacal Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:24:11 +0000 Organization: changelater Lines: 56 Sender: Ted Message-ID: References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.137.37.90 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk 1042464335 4779 62.137.37.90 (13 Jan 2003 13:25:35 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jan 2003 13:25:35 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!charted.freeserve.co.uk!ted Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2445 >Chacal, good to hear from you! Hi Garry, Nice to hear from you too. It has been a while.. :) > >OK, so how do you know the Reiki didn't help? Maybe without it you >would have turned belly up and died from your common cold. ;-) lol >Seriously, maybe something else needed healing more seriously than the >things that *you* thought needed healing. Maybe. Right now I think my physical body NEEDS healing though. Today I went to work for the first time after all this and I wasn't at my fittest, I can tell you that.. >Perhaps even your >understanding about Reiki is what needs healing, and this is being >brought up now so that you can dig into it. Hmmmmmm > >As for your statement that medical help is necessary in a moment of >crisis--damn straight it is! Reiki isn't a magic wand, any more than >any other modality. How many times have you been told that when we >give Reiki, we are not supposed to be attached to outcomes? And what >is the reason for us being told that? Just something to think about. Do you mean by that that we are not supposed to expect any results? If that's the case it doesn't seem to be much point spending the time having reiki.. > >That said, has there ever been a time for you when Reiki was noticably >helpful? Are we throwing those times out with the bathwater? I can't think of many times when reiki has been noticeably helpful. Reiki has eased a headache or a backache sometimes, but ultimately if things were getting to bad I had to take painkillers or go to the osteopath. When I first was attuned to reiki I was so excited.. My husband was suffering from arthritis in his knees at the time and I thought I could cure him with reiki. I gave him reiki a few times but he wasn't feeling any better, so eventually I stopped. Now his arthritis seems to be a lot better, after using special supplements and diet, but reiki didn't do anything for him. > >BTW, no, you haven't "lost" your Reiki. It's there forever, or for as >long as you live, whichever warranty runs out first. Good to know! :) > >Hope this has been helpful! > >Love and Light, > >Garry > Thanks for your comments anyway. Love and Light to you too, Chacal ###### From: Chacal Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:52:58 +0000 Organization: changelater Lines: 48 Sender: Ted Message-ID: References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.137.21.53 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk 1042473154 8636 62.137.21.53 (13 Jan 2003 15:52:34 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jan 2003 15:52:34 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!charted.freeserve.co.uk!ted Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2446 Thank you all for your feedback and support, you are very kind. I thought I was going to get shouted at in here for being negative about something you believe in. :) It shows that you are very open minded. I'll do my best to reply to your comments. Danni: Thank you. I think I'll accept your suggestion of asking for reiki here. So yes, Reiki would be appreciated. A lot of reiki can be better than a little reiki.. :) Stuart: I like what your RM says "if you are ill, take a pill" It shows someone that takes a practical approach in life. I'll remember that.. Joel: I find very interesting what you said about engaging in meditative exercises, to develop the ability to channel Reiki more effectively. If that's the case I'm in trouble since I hardly ever meditate. I'm meaning to do it but I never seem to find the time.. I was never told that meditating would improve your reiki. In that case I think RMs should emphasise this. And I agree with you, physical healing is the toughest one to crack, in my case anyway, more than mental or emotional. Rick: As you say, learning how to relax, how not to panic, is a very important thing, and a difficult one for me to follow. I'm afraid when it comes to reiki, or to any other form of alternative therapy for that matter, I get very attached to the outcome and I get very frustrated when I don't see positive results. Vanessa: I had shingles twice before I had the allergy or this heavy cold. Do you know what? It doesn't surprise me, unpleasant as it is. Shingles leaves your immune system very low and you feel very run down for quite sometime. What I need to do now is to build up my immune system. Don't be surprised about the doctor not giving me meds. for this last infection. Doctors in the UK on the NHS are very reluctant to prescribe anything for some ailments, specially antibiotics. I had to visit her twice and insist that she gave me something else for my eye, since it wasn't getting any better. After much discussion she prescribed antibiotic drops, otherwise my eye would still be red and swollen. I believe that eyes are very delicate things and you should treat them properly. Colds are different, you can learn how to put up with them, even if you may feel awful on the meantime and they seem to go on forever.. Anyway, thank you all again for your help. Love and Light to you all Chacal ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:07:19 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 43 Message-ID: <3e22ef46.114552577@news.netidea.com> References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-587.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.online.be!oleane.net!oleane!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2394 On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:52:58 +0000, Chacal wrote: > >Joel: I find very interesting what you said about engaging in meditative >exercises, to develop the ability to channel Reiki more effectively. If >that's the case I'm in trouble since I hardly ever meditate. I'm meaning >to do it but I never seem to find the time.. I was never told that >meditating would improve your reiki. In that case I think RMs should >emphasise this. And I agree with you, physical healing is the toughest >one to crack, in my case anyway, more than mental or emotional. > Chacal, it was Judy Rigby who initially sent me the instructions for hatsureiho breathing-meditation. By the way, you can do it in any comfortable upright position, and do not have to sit in the Japanese seiza style. You can find instructions at: http://www.sharereiki.org/japan/hatsureiho.htm Apparently when Takata first started teaching Westerners, she did not feel that a daily meditative discipline would appeal to us or be something we would be likely to make into a habit. For that reason or possibly some other one, hatsureiho was neglected in the West for 15 or 20 years after Reiki attunements began to be made available in North America and Europe. Another unfortunate thing (to my way of thinking): in Western (Takata) style Reiki, Level 1 is said to make possible physical healing, whereas more emotional/mental/spiritual healing is said to be possible with more advanced attunements. But *that* makes it seem like physical healing is the most accessible aspect, whereas most Reiki practioners -- even ones who have high-level attunements and have been doing it for years -- say that physical healing is less frequently obvious as an outcome of Reiki sessions. Discussions such as what we have here on ahr will probably contribute to a better understanding, and Reiki may be taught differently in the future as a result of people communicating. Blessings, Joel ###### From: "Vanessa" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 34 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:15:56 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.208.193.156 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1042493772 216.208.193.156 (Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:36:12 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:36:12 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!torn!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2468 > Vanessa: I had shingles twice before I had the allergy or this heavy > cold. Do you know what? It doesn't surprise me, unpleasant as it is. Yes I had it as a child once, even tho I don't remember.... A low immunity is not just physical, it affects mental, and emotional abilities also. So take care, and hopefully a good strong dose of healing will boost everything you need to get past all this. (Wow! I marvel at the songs that come on when I'm replying to emails on this forum, right now there is a concert by the BeeGees 'Words' - I think that is the name - "Smile an Everlasting Smile...... ") It's kind of a good thing that your doctors don't go WillyNilly with the antibiotics as there was mention around places of penecillin resistant dis-eases. It's possible looking into some more natural things may help tho, a common immune booster is garlic, eating it has lots of benefits. Colds are no fun and actually can weaken eyes. Some doctors (probably more than I realize, I'm talking eye doctors, as some illnesses, especially those connected with neuro activity leave signs in the eyes, so just a guess, swelling in your eye may be connected in some way.) can tell what illness you've had or are having by your eyes. And another thought, maybe concentrating some healing there may help. Blessed Be, Vanessa Einstein said, The world we have made is a result of the level of thinking we have done thus far. We cannot solve problems at the same level at which we created them. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/2002 ###### From: "Vanessa" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 56 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:42:20 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.208.193.156 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1042494161 216.208.193.156 (Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:42:41 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:42:41 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!213.253.16.105.MISMATCH!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!torn!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2469 > Do you mean by that that we are not supposed to expect any results? If > that's the case it doesn't seem to be much point spending the time > having reiki.. Some times we get so glued or stuck on a certain result we refuse to see anything else. For example with reiki, you have stated that 'what is the point?' Going back to your original request and replies, this comes from expectation. And as it has been stated, you have reiki (whether you forget how to use it or not) and that is the point. Because you aren't getting what you have expected, you aren't seeing what you have and what you have (been) given. Time to take a look. You mentioned that you thought you could cure your husband with reiki. There have been some who have cured some pretty major illnesses, and many spent more than just a few sessions and more than just the typical time on them. If you are sticking to the 'first lesson' idea (5 mins in each position) you might try following intuition and going against common or logical thought. Maybe meditation on say your immune system and just your immune system, might offer the break thru you are looking for in healing yourself. The idea being that physiologically, mentally and emotionally we are all different and reiki seems to help ppl to see we all have different needs and goals and to honour them, so often the 'first lesson' idea needs to be adjusted with time and individual thought. Reiki is not like a medication, but can alleviate until a pill is taken, add to a pill, or adjust you so the pills will work and can actually cure (longstanding illnesses often take more time in length/dedication and how often it is needed). It teaches patience, and unconditional love, often thru experience. Many ppl don't heal at the hands of a reiki healer, but rather the reiki is the catalyst to the much needed adjustment in habit, social training/approval, and diet (coincidentally, altho it may not be the happiest thought, but it has been said that often dis-ease can be there for that reason, if you don't change, the lessons get deeper and a dis-ease ensues to force a change). IE if you are a workaholic, illnesses that make you rest or that give you time to see what you have been missing is common. There are also those who have the diet or adjustment and find little change or have trouble with it but after the reiki, what didn't work does. In some ways it is better to not be the one who cured the illness. Reiki isn't about big heads, or ego which tends to be what seeps in when we believe we can cure an illness that most can't. (Just me pouring milk on my soapbox, but also I hope this offers you something to look forward to) Blessed Be, Vanessa Einstein said, The world we have made is a result of the level of thinking we have done thus far. We cannot solve problems at the same level at which we created them. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/2002 ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3e237a47.9163238@news.earthlink.net> References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> <3e22ef46.114552577@news.netidea.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 36 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 02:37:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.131.115 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1042511858 165.247.131.115 (Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:37:38 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:37:38 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!207.217.77.102!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2460 Joel, something you said below just sparked a random thought in my head. I'll share it on the off-chance that someone with more smarts and experience than I might want to either expand on it, or else point out its flaws so we can get on with the good stuff. On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:07:19 GMT, xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) wrote: >Another unfortunate thing (to my way of thinking): in Western >(Takata) style Reiki, Level 1 is said to make possible physical >healing, whereas more emotional/mental/spiritual healing is said to be >possible with more advanced attunements. But *that* makes it seem >like physical healing is the most accessible aspect, whereas most >Reiki practioners -- even ones who have high-level attunements and >have been doing it for years -- say that physical healing is less >frequently obvious as an outcome of Reiki sessions. Perhaps the idea is to use the ego-drawing concept of becoming "super-healer" to hook us, then reel us in to do the real healing, ie, the mental/emotional/spiritual healing. A little white lie or embellishment on the truth to attract and hold us past the eye-candy until we can get into the real thing? Just a thought. >Discussions such as what we have here on ahr will probably contribute >to a better understanding, and Reiki may be taught differently in the >future as a result of people communicating. We can only hope. :-) Love and Light, Garry ###### From: Chacal Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:27:51 +0000 Organization: changelater Lines: 42 Sender: Ted Message-ID: References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> <3e22ef46.114552577@news.netidea.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.137.33.220 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 1042554586 11482 62.137.33.220 (14 Jan 2003 14:29:46 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 2003 14:29:46 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!newspeer.lavaseals.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!charted.freeserve.co.uk!ted Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2477 Thanks Joel. I've come across this website before and I've gone as far as copying the exercises but I've never done them. It all sounds a bit complicated, I suppose it's like anything until you learn it.. I will definitely have a go at this as soon as I have the time. Do you have to it everyday? I wonder why my RMs never mentioned anything about hatsureiho.. Well, you learn a lot in here :) Love and Light Chacal >> >Chacal, it was Judy Rigby who initially sent me the instructions for >hatsureiho breathing-meditation. By the way, you can do it in any >comfortable upright position, and do not have to sit in the Japanese >seiza style. You can find instructions at: > >http://www.sharereiki.org/japan/hatsureiho.htm > >Apparently when Takata first started teaching Westerners, she did not >feel that a daily meditative discipline would appeal to us or be >something we would be likely to make into a habit. For that reason or >possibly some other one, hatsureiho was neglected in the West for 15 >or 20 years after Reiki attunements began to be made available in >North America and Europe. > >Another unfortunate thing (to my way of thinking): in Western >(Takata) style Reiki, Level 1 is said to make possible physical >healing, whereas more emotional/mental/spiritual healing is said to be >possible with more advanced attunements. But *that* makes it seem >like physical healing is the most accessible aspect, whereas most >Reiki practioners -- even ones who have high-level attunements and >have been doing it for years -- say that physical healing is less >frequently obvious as an outcome of Reiki sessions. > >Discussions such as what we have here on ahr will probably contribute >to a better understanding, and Reiki may be taught differently in the >future as a result of people communicating. > >Blessings, > >Joel ###### From: Chacal Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:49:32 +0000 Organization: changelater Lines: 27 Sender: Ted Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.137.33.220 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 1042554587 11482 62.137.33.220 (14 Jan 2003 14:29:47 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 2003 14:29:47 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!newspeer.lavaseals.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!charted.freeserve.co.uk!ted Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2475 Hi Roberto, Thank you for the web address. I went in last night and didn't get much, apart from a tingly feeling in my spine. Well, I suppose that's something.. Now that I'm rereading your post, you said that it takes about 15 minutes. I was only there for about 5 minutes at most, as I was busy at the time. Maybe that's why it didn't work so well.. I will have another go next Monday. Thanks again. Blessings Chacal >Hello there! > >I think it might be useful for You to tune into the distant reiju broadcast >performed by Taggard every Monday. It really works and it might also help >You to power up Your Reiki. Today is Monday so You can try right away, it'll >take some 15 minutes, and it's worth trying! > >Here's the address to the web page where You can read some more about it: >http://www.reiki-evolution.co.uk/reijubroadcast.htm > >Hope it'll help you! > >Seeya > >El Roberto > > ###### From: Chacal Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:28:16 +0000 Organization: changelater Lines: 37 Sender: Ted Message-ID: References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.137.33.220 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 1042554589 11482 62.137.33.220 (14 Jan 2003 14:29:49 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 2003 14:29:49 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!newspeer.lavaseals.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!charted.freeserve.co.uk!ted Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2473 Thanks Vanessa, I'm intending to do a web search about the immune system, see what I get.. Medline is usually very good for such things. I know that garlic is good, if you can take it without it upsetting your stomach! (raw garlic, I mean). At the moment I'm taking plenty of vitamin C and doing acupressure exercises to boost the immune system. Blessings Chacal >> Vanessa: I had shingles twice before I had the allergy or this heavy >> cold. Do you know what? It doesn't surprise me, unpleasant as it is. > >Yes I had it as a child once, even tho I don't remember.... A low immunity >is not just physical, it affects mental, and emotional abilities also. So >take care, and hopefully a good strong dose of healing will boost everything >you need to get past all this. (Wow! I marvel at the songs that come on >when I'm replying to emails on this forum, right now there is a concert by >the BeeGees 'Words' - I think that is the name - "Smile an Everlasting >Smile...... ") It's kind of a good thing that your doctors don't go >WillyNilly with the antibiotics as there was mention around places of >penecillin resistant dis-eases. It's possible looking into some more >natural things may help tho, a common immune booster is garlic, eating it >has lots of benefits. Colds are no fun and actually can weaken eyes. Some >doctors (probably more than I realize, I'm talking eye doctors, as some >illnesses, especially those connected with neuro activity leave signs in the >eyes, so just a guess, swelling in your eye may be connected in some way.) >can tell what illness you've had or are having by your eyes. And another >thought, maybe concentrating some healing there may help. > >Blessed Be, >Vanessa > >Einstein said, The world we have made is a result of the level of >thinking we have done thus far. We cannot solve problems at the >same level at which we created them. > > ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:08:26 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 34 Message-ID: <3e243435.129561441@news.netidea.com> References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> <3e22ef46.114552577@news.netidea.com> <3e237a47.9163238@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-484.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!luth.se!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2457 On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 02:37:38 GMT, nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) wrote: >Joel, something you said below just sparked a random thought in my >head. I'll share it on the off-chance that someone with more smarts >and experience than I might want to either expand on it, or else point >out its flaws so we can get on with the good stuff. > >Perhaps the idea is to use the ego-drawing concept of becoming >"super-healer" to hook us, then reel us in to do the real healing, ie, >the mental/emotional/spiritual healing. A little white lie or >embellishment on the truth to attract and hold us past the eye-candy >until we can get into the real thing? > Hi, Garry Yes, I've thought the same. But I believe it is not just "the ego" that is attracted to the notion of learning to heal (do physical healing). People with a desire to serve and help other people can be attracted -- much like those who go into careers (or volunteer work) in search & rescue, or hospitals, or psychotherapy, disaster-relief work, or hospice work. Also, people who have a personal need for physical healing may be attracted to it for reasons other than "ego" -- if what we mean by "ego" is some sort of conceit, or some kind of "I'm rather special, aren't I?" Namaste, Joel ###### From: xwoodvine@netidea.com (Joel) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:21:29 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 53 Message-ID: <3e24361f.130051136@news.netidea.com> References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> <3e22ef46.114552577@news.netidea.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-669.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!logbridge.uoregon.edu!tethys.csu.net!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2458 On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:27:51 +0000, Chacal wrote: >Thanks Joel. I've come across this website before and I've gone as far >as copying the exercises but I've never done them. It all sounds a bit >complicated, I suppose it's like anything until you learn it.. It becomes one fluid routine, and does not take long to get to that point -- a week at most. > I will >definitely have a go at this as soon as I have the time. Do you have to >it everyday? If you want to do an Asian-style self-development, you do it daily. A lot like paths like Zen or meditative yoga. I do it pretty much daily, sometimes for more time, sometimes only five minutes, depending on how the particular day is working out. I have a job and other involvements and responsibilities, so.............. >I wonder why my RMs never mentioned anything about >hatsureiho.. Well, you learn a lot in here :) > Well, this is an interesting question. Perhaps other people will post to kind of propose an answer from multiple perspectives. I remember 18 months or so ago, there was a thread and someone described the hatsureiho technique. There was an RM who had also been studying qi gong and other techniques, and he posted and said something like "hey, wait a minute -- that's qi gong, not Reiki." And then a couple people pointed out that in Japan the Reiki-ists often do hatsureiho. Here's one idea: Most of the lineages in N America, U.K., Europe, Australia, New Zealand go back to Takata. I fully credit and respect her. But she didn't teach hatsureiho, so it has only been introduced into the West directly from Japan, and since about 1996, from what I have been able to learn. But it is only fair to mention another approach, which is "Reiki as guided by spirits, angels, or devas." Some people feel that these beings do the Reiki work through the Reiki practitioner. So it raises a question as to whether self-development is needed at all. However, this external-spirit-being approach is apparently not the Japanese approach, because they *do* believe in self-development as part of what Reiki practice is about. Namaste, Joel ###### From: "D/A Fischer" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 40 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:24:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.244.30.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1042730662 216.244.30.190 (Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:24:22 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:24:22 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2496 > Do you mean by that that we are not supposed to expect any results? If > that's the case it doesn't seem to be much point spending the time > having reiki.. Reiki sometimes requires a whopping leap of faith, specifically when we do not *see* the results. One must know in their heart that good is being done. Just trust. (easier said than done sometimes. ) > I can't think of many times when reiki has been noticeably helpful. > Reiki has eased a headache or a backache sometimes, but ultimately if > things were getting to bad I had to take painkillers or go to the > osteopath. When I first was attuned to reiki I was so excited.. My > husband was suffering from arthritis in his knees at the time and I > thought I could cure him with reiki. I gave him reiki a few times but he > wasn't feeling any better, so eventually I stopped. Now his arthritis > seems to be a lot better, after using special supplements and diet, but > reiki didn't do anything for him. First of all, you are not God. You can *cure* no others. Whether or not they accept the Reiki is up to them, but it is there for the taking. So you maybe had in your mind that a few sessions is all it would take and *bang* he's better. That is "expecting a certain outcome" which I can almost guarantee will disapoint everytime. Maybe this is more a test of your belief in Reiki and whether or not it works. You sense of channeling energy/amount of energy may get stronger as you use it more (I'm still not quite sure about that one myself ), but one thing I know is you cannot *lose* your Reiki. It is universal and unconditional. Just trust. Those two little words were extremely hard for me to fathom............when I did not *see* results my ego would jump in and decry everything. It was much better for me to think the system was flawed, then to believe that *I* did not have the effect I thought was necessary. I hope some of this has been helpful. Love and Light, Gyps ###### From: "D/A Fischer" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 16 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:41:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.244.30.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1042731662 216.244.30.190 (Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:41:02 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:41:02 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.frii.net!newsfeed.frii.net!140.99.99.194.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2501 > Many ppl don't heal at the hands of a reiki healer, but rather the reiki is > the catalyst to the much needed adjustment in habit, social > training/approval, and diet (coincidentally, altho it may not be the > happiest thought, but it has been said that often dis-ease can be there for > that reason, if you don't change, the lessons get deeper and a dis-ease > ensues to force a change). I really like this part, Ness. Very well put, and for me very true. Love and Light, Gyps ###### Message-ID: <3E2BBD56.6050805@verizon.net> From: squibcake User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 48 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:11:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.84.242.149 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc01.gnilink.net 1043057478 162.84.242.149 (Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:11:18 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:11:18 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamfinder.gnilink.net!nwrddc01.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2599 Reiki always helps! It goes to where it is needed. many times I do reiki and dont know if I feel any different, but later I know and feel better. Now as far as being really sick. I treat cancer patients often and they are quite sicker then you have expressed and they respond appropiately. Perhaps it is something else. Sometimes in the procces of healing we must expediate the negative so we can respond to healing or positive energy. it may feel that you are worst, but perhaps you are purging out so you can really get the reiki energy to the places in your life that it really need it when it needs it. I hope this makes sense. Squib Chacal wrote: > Hi, I thought I'd come out of lurking mode to ask a question that is > bothering me. Is it possible to loose your Reiki? > I was attuned to Reiki level 2 about three years ago. Though I hardly > have the time to practice on others, I reiki myself almost daily. I sit > in front of the TV and give myself reiki for the entire length of a > film, sometimes longer. In spite of this my health hasn't been all that > great lately. I've had shingles twice since November. I am better now > after a course of tablets and just time. Reiki didn't seem to do all > that much for me or speed it up. Recently I've had an allergic reaction > that left one of my eyes swollen, red and streaming. Still Reiki didn't > help. I am better now thanks to the antibiotic drops that the doctor > prescribed. I am also having a very bad cold since the beginning of the > year. My throat is swollen and it's painful to swallow, my ears are > blocked and can't hear all that well at times, according to the doctor > they are a bit infected. Still, no amount of Reiki seems to make any > difference, and since the doctor didn't give me anything for this I have > to put up with it until it goes. Reiki doesn't seem to help, even though > last night I spent the entire evening reiking myself. > I don't get it. Either my Reiki "touch" has gone, or perhaps Reiki > doesn't work all that well after all.. > I think in moments of crisis you have to go back to conventional > medicine, or perhaps to other forms of therapy. When I lie in bed at > night I often get attacks of coughing, with the risk of waking up my > partner and the whole house! So it's not reiki that helps me at those > times, but Acupressure. I lie in bed pressing the acupressure points for > coughs and it goes away. > I think reiki enhances your life when you are well, but if you are sick > you have to look for help elsewhere.. > It's at moments like this that I feel like a dissatisfied customer. All > that money spent doing my reiki attunements.. I want my money back!! > > Chacal > > > ###### Message-ID: <3E2BBD56.6050805@verizon.net> From: squibcake User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 48 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:11:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.84.242.149 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc01.gnilink.net 1043057478 162.84.242.149 (Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:11:18 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:11:18 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamfinder.gnilink.net!nwrddc01.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2610 Reiki always helps! It goes to where it is needed. many times I do reiki and dont know if I feel any different, but later I know and feel better. Now as far as being really sick. I treat cancer patients often and they are quite sicker then you have expressed and they respond appropiately. Perhaps it is something else. Sometimes in the procces of healing we must expediate the negative so we can respond to healing or positive energy. it may feel that you are worst, but perhaps you are purging out so you can really get the reiki energy to the places in your life that it really need it when it needs it. I hope this makes sense. Squib Chacal wrote: > Hi, I thought I'd come out of lurking mode to ask a question that is > bothering me. Is it possible to loose your Reiki? > I was attuned to Reiki level 2 about three years ago. Though I hardly > have the time to practice on others, I reiki myself almost daily. I sit > in front of the TV and give myself reiki for the entire length of a > film, sometimes longer. In spite of this my health hasn't been all that > great lately. I've had shingles twice since November. I am better now > after a course of tablets and just time. Reiki didn't seem to do all > that much for me or speed it up. Recently I've had an allergic reaction > that left one of my eyes swollen, red and streaming. Still Reiki didn't > help. I am better now thanks to the antibiotic drops that the doctor > prescribed. I am also having a very bad cold since the beginning of the > year. My throat is swollen and it's painful to swallow, my ears are > blocked and can't hear all that well at times, according to the doctor > they are a bit infected. Still, no amount of Reiki seems to make any > difference, and since the doctor didn't give me anything for this I have > to put up with it until it goes. Reiki doesn't seem to help, even though > last night I spent the entire evening reiking myself. > I don't get it. Either my Reiki "touch" has gone, or perhaps Reiki > doesn't work all that well after all.. > I think in moments of crisis you have to go back to conventional > medicine, or perhaps to other forms of therapy. When I lie in bed at > night I often get attacks of coughing, with the risk of waking up my > partner and the whole house! So it's not reiki that helps me at those > times, but Acupressure. I lie in bed pressing the acupressure points for > coughs and it goes away. > I think reiki enhances your life when you are well, but if you are sick > you have to look for help elsewhere.. > It's at moments like this that I feel like a dissatisfied customer. All > that money spent doing my reiki attunements.. I want my money back!! > > Chacal > > > ###### From: Chacal Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:23:40 +0000 Organization: changelater Lines: 43 Sender: Ted Message-ID: References: <3e21dbd3.2184506@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.136.88.41 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 1043256174 9127 62.136.88.41 (22 Jan 2003 17:22:54 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Jan 2003 17:22:54 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!charted.freeserve.co.uk!ted Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2639 In article , D/A Fischer writes > >Reiki sometimes requires a whopping leap of faith, >specifically when we do not *see* the results. One >must know in their heart that good is being done. Just >trust. (easier said than done sometimes. ) I can agree with that. The problem is that I've always had trouble accepting things on faith alone.. I wish I had the faith in reiki that you all seem to have in here! :) As for "expecting a certain outcome" I used to that at the beginning. I have now learned not to expect all that much, and this is usually what I get.. lol. I still reiki myself almost daily though, just because it relaxes me and makes me feel I'm doing something good while I'm watching TV. :) Love and Light Chacal > > >First of all, you are not God. You can *cure* no others. Whether or not >they accept the Reiki is up to them, but it is there for the taking. So >you >maybe had in your mind that a few sessions is all it would take and >*bang* he's better. That is "expecting a certain outcome" which I can >almost guarantee will disapoint everytime. Maybe this is more a test >of your belief in Reiki and whether or not it works. You sense of >channeling energy/amount of energy may get stronger as you >use it more (I'm still not quite sure about that one myself ), but >one thing I know is you cannot *lose* your Reiki. It is universal >and unconditional. Just trust. Those two little words were extremely >hard for me to fathom............when I did not *see* results my ego would >jump in and decry everything. It was much better for me to think >the system was flawed, then to believe that *I* did not have the >effect I thought was necessary. I hope some of this has been helpful. > >Love and Light, Gyps > > > ###### From: "Roy Barlow" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:54:27 -0000 Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.76.134.12 X-Trace: news7.svr.pol.co.uk 1043355270 16560 81.76.134.12 (23 Jan 2003 20:54:30 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Jan 2003 20:54:30 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2662 Hi Chacal I think your problem is more common than you think. Reiki 2 does not appear to have increased my Reiki ability as expected.In my case I have had no success with distance healing.My fingers go white in the cold weather and Reiki has had no appreciable effect on this.It does work on other members of the family however.But I am still disappointed. Hoping things improve Roy "Chacal" wrote in message news:aiMl+PAENdI+Ewxb@charted.freeserve.co.uk... > Hi, I thought I'd come out of lurking mode to ask a question that is > bothering me. Is it possible to loose your Reiki? > I was attuned to Reiki level 2 about three years ago. Though I hardly > have the time to practice on others, I reiki myself almost daily. I sit > in front of the TV and give myself reiki for the entire length of a > film, sometimes longer. In spite of this my health hasn't been all that > great lately. I've had shingles twice since November. I am better now > after a course of tablets and just time. Reiki didn't seem to do all > that much for me or speed it up. Recently I've had an allergic reaction > that left one of my eyes swollen, red and streaming. Still Reiki didn't > help. I am better now thanks to the antibiotic drops that the doctor > prescribed. I am also having a very bad cold since the beginning of the > year. My throat is swollen and it's painful to swallow, my ears are > blocked and can't hear all that well at times, according to the doctor > they are a bit infected. Still, no amount of Reiki seems to make any > difference, and since the doctor didn't give me anything for this I have > to put up with it until it goes. Reiki doesn't seem to help, even though > last night I spent the entire evening reiking myself. > I don't get it. Either my Reiki "touch" has gone, or perhaps Reiki > doesn't work all that well after all.. > I think in moments of crisis you have to go back to conventional > medicine, or perhaps to other forms of therapy. When I lie in bed at > night I often get attacks of coughing, with the risk of waking up my > partner and the whole house! So it's not reiki that helps me at those > times, but Acupressure. I lie in bed pressing the acupressure points for > coughs and it goes away. > I think reiki enhances your life when you are well, but if you are sick > you have to look for help elsewhere.. > It's at moments like this that I feel like a dissatisfied customer. All > that money spent doing my reiki attunements.. I want my money back!! > > Chacal > > > ###### From: nobody@nowhere.org.net (Nadie Niemand) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.org.net Message-ID: <3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 28 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:30:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.161.16 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1043357453 165.247.161.16 (Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:30:53 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:30:53 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2665 On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:54:27 -0000, "Roy Barlow" wrote: >Hi Chacal >I think your problem is more common than you think. >Reiki 2 does not appear to have increased my Reiki ability as expected.In my IMHO, those that advertise that getting attuned to the "next level" will "increase your ability to channel Reiki" are doing a great disservice to the community. A first level practitioner might be able to channel every bit as much Reiki as a "master" practitioner. After all, it is not so much the channel that determines how much energy is received, as it is the recipient! Another factor is how much does one practice? A first degree student who practices daily will probably be a much clearer channel than a 2nd degree or 3rd degree practitioner that only practices once in a blue moon. I'm sure there are other factors involved, and would like to hear others' experiences. This is what I have been taught and have come to believe. However, I'm open to hearing evidence or opinions to the contrary. Love and Light, Garry ###### From: "michael" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 49 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:24:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.132.90.228 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1043360667 144.132.90.228 (Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:24:27 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:24:27 EST Organization: BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.net.au) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.hostname.nl!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!intgwlon.nntp.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2689 Hi Chacal, Garry I feel that saying Reiki 1,2 3 etc. has an "increase" in anything is applying logic to something that works at right angles to logic. Does Reiki not work at a higher plane of which we can not be fully aware at our (human) stage of development? The best we can do is put our soul into when we do Reiki and trust implicitly that the "right" improvements can take place if all parties are willing. The dilemma is that the "right" is not the right that our logical mind says. Michael. "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message news:3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net... > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:54:27 -0000, "Roy Barlow" > wrote: > > >Hi Chacal > >I think your problem is more common than you think. > >Reiki 2 does not appear to have increased my Reiki ability as expected.In my > > > > IMHO, those that advertise that getting attuned to the "next level" > will "increase your ability to channel Reiki" are doing a great > disservice to the community. A first level practitioner might be able > to channel every bit as much Reiki as a "master" practitioner. After > all, it is not so much the channel that determines how much energy is > received, as it is the recipient! Another factor is how much does one > practice? A first degree student who practices daily will probably be > a much clearer channel than a 2nd degree or 3rd degree practitioner > that only practices once in a blue moon. I'm sure there are other > factors involved, and would like to hear others' experiences. > > This is what I have been taught and have come to believe. However, I'm > open to hearing evidence or opinions to the contrary. > > Love and Light, > > Garry > > ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:40 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net> Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: public2-bolt3-3-cust49.oldh.broadband.ntl.com (80.2.124.49) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1043361630 29789124 80.2.124.49 (16 [41161]) X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!opentransit.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!public2-bolt3-3-cust49.oldh.broadband.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2673 (Nadie Niemand) wrote: > IMHO, those that advertise that getting attuned to the "next level" > will "increase your ability to channel Reiki" are doing a great > disservice to the community Of course ... that was the old $$$$$$$$$$$ thing ... As more people get informed (increasingly through the Net), the fewer will get ripped off ... Stuart ###### Reply-To: "Steven Buck, CMT" From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 44 Organization: http://www.metareiki.org X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.168.24.105 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr17.news.prodigy.com 1043367788 ST000 64.168.24.105 (Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:23:08 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:23:08 EST X-UserInfo1: O@YCR^_EFRWSP_@YMZJ\_Q\@TJ_ZTB\MV@BL\QMIWIWTEPIB_NVUAH_[BL[\IRKIANGGJBFNJF_DOLSCENSY^U@FRFUEXR@KFXYDBPWBCDQJA@X_DCBHXR[C@\EOKCJLED_SZ@RMWYXYWE_P@\\GOIW^@SYFFSWHFIXMADO@^[ADPRPETLBJ]RDGENSKQQZN Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:23:08 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.hostname.nl!news-xfer.cox.net!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr17.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!9eb22389!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2692 If I remember correctly, Usui did not have Levels, just practice. I see pro's and cons to the levels but don't have the time to write about it just yet. ShadowWolf has something called a Singular Attunement, right? -- Steven Buck, CMT "Nadie Niemand" wrote in message news:3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net... > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:54:27 -0000, "Roy Barlow" > wrote: > > >Hi Chacal > >I think your problem is more common than you think. > >Reiki 2 does not appear to have increased my Reiki ability as expected.In my > > > > IMHO, those that advertise that getting attuned to the "next level" > will "increase your ability to channel Reiki" are doing a great > disservice to the community. A first level practitioner might be able > to channel every bit as much Reiki as a "master" practitioner. After > all, it is not so much the channel that determines how much energy is > received, as it is the recipient! Another factor is how much does one > practice? A first degree student who practices daily will probably be > a much clearer channel than a 2nd degree or 3rd degree practitioner > that only practices once in a blue moon. I'm sure there are other > factors involved, and would like to hear others' experiences. > > This is what I have been taught and have come to believe. However, I'm > open to hearing evidence or opinions to the contrary. > > Love and Light, > > Garry > > > ###### From: suzee Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:39:58 -0800 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3E30A77E.1499D65E@nidlink.com> References: <3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net> Reply-To: qiuser@yahoo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sandpoint-189.imbris.com (216.18.141.189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1043376013 29597961 216.18.141.189 (16 [130985]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!sandpoint-189.imbris.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2656 "Steven Buck, CMT" wrote: > > If I remember correctly, Usui did not have Levels, just practice. > > I see pro's and cons to the levels but don't have the time to write about it > just yet. > > ShadowWolf has something called a Singular Attunement, right? Yes, and it makes some sense to me. I can't really see any reason for levels except maybe to accustom people to energy work if they're not used to it. I was, so having all the attunements in one evening (separate, not singular) was fine for me. When I do attunements, it's a singular one with the intention that it go to the receiver as much as they're able to handle, whenever they're able to handle it. Most of the people I've attuned have already had their level one or two, so they've got some experience with it already. namaste, sue ###### Reply-To: "Steven Buck, CMT" From: "Steven Buck, CMT" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net> <3E30A77E.1499D65E@nidlink.com> Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Lines: 65 Organization: http://www.metareiki.org X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.123.206.216 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr14.news.prodigy.com 1043400860 ST000 66.123.206.216 (Fri, 24 Jan 2003 04:34:20 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 04:34:20 EST X-UserInfo1: [[PA@SBE]JV_R_PYN[O@_WH@YR_B@EXLLBWLOOAFWIWTEPIB_NVUAH_[BL[\IRKIANGGJBFNJF_DOLSCENSY^U@FRFUEXR@KFXYDBPWBCDQJA@X_DCBHXR[C@\EOKCJLED_SZ@RMWYXYWE_P@\\GOIW^@SYFFSWHFIXMADO@^[ADPRPETLBJ]RDGENSKQQZN Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:34:20 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.hostname.nl!news.astraweb.com!news-small.astraweb.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr14.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!9eb22389!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2685 Shortly after my Masters attunement I began to attune others. In the past I had always observed how the energy itself worked, and did the same with the attunement energies. Beginning Reiki, I did things the way I was told.... During the Level 1 Attunement process I noticed that some students drew more "Attunement" Reiki than others... for some it was their first "awakening" and they realized they could now channel reiki; others receiving the first attunement lit up like it was long over-due and radiated at the distance and even master level. I knew that some could immediately channel distance, and even effectively conduct attunements but my Reiki Training said it was not so. After a few attunements (followed by visions during zazen meditations and dreams with Usui that contradicted the Reiki classes) I began to tell students that a Reiki Master is a Reiki Channel, and as a Reiki Channel have no real control over the energy and did not believe I had the right to regulate how much healing energy they received, nor did I believe anyone really could regulate it. With respect to attunements, they would draw the level of attunement energy appropriate for their needs, and emphasis was placed with the need to be honest with themselves about where it was with them and their abilities. Some would be able to only channel directly with hands-on, and others would be able to perform it at a distance. I suggested they use the Levels only as a personal reference chart, and put no real credence into them. Just practice, and the energy will flow. As they practice more, the energy would increase and so to their own healing and ability to channel greater amounts. One frequently asked question was "This is my very first attunement - How will I know if I can channel at a distance?" The answer was simple: "try it." Hold your hands up in front of you, remember the Reiki energies from the attunement, and invite them to flow to the person for whom it is intended. If you feel the flow and are not touching anything, then the distance works. If not, that's okay just do it a different way - use a surrogate for hands-on. An example of a surrogate could be a pillow. Light a candle, sit back in the recliner, lay the pillow in your lap and imagine the pillow as the person... then begin the process just as if it was a direct hands-on. -- Steven Buck, CMT "suzee" wrote in message news:3E30A77E.1499D65E@nidlink.com... > "Steven Buck, CMT" wrote: > > > > If I remember correctly, Usui did not have Levels, just practice. > > > > I see pro's and cons to the levels but don't have the time to write about it > > just yet. > > > > ShadowWolf has something called a Singular Attunement, right? > > Yes, and it makes some sense to me. I can't really see any reason for > levels except maybe to accustom people to energy work if they're not > used to it. I was, so having all the attunements in one evening > (separate, not singular) was fine for me. When I do attunements, it's a > singular one with the intention that it go to the receiver as much as > they're able to handle, whenever they're able to handle it. Most of the > people I've attuned have already had their level one or two, so they've > got some experience with it already. > > namaste, sue ###### From: Chacal Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Reiki in times of crisis... Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:34:52 +0000 Organization: changelater Lines: 16 Sender: Ted Message-ID: References: <3e305ec8.10595307@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.137.39.88 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 1043422528 14772 62.137.39.88 (24 Jan 2003 15:35:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Jan 2003 15:35:28 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!charted.freeserve.co.uk!ted Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:2682 Nadie Niemand writes > >IMHO, those that advertise that getting attuned to the "next level" >will "increase your ability to channel Reiki" are doing a great >disservice to the community. A first level practitioner might be able >to channel every bit as much Reiki as a "master" practitioner. I agree. You aren't taught the symbols on your first level so you can come back and pay more money.. This was so in my case. I was satisfied with my reiki at level 1 but wanted to know the symbols, not only for distance healing but because I was led to believe that if you know the symbols your reiki would be better. If this is true why don't they teach them in level one? It's all a big money-making business IMO. Chacal