From: kisrael@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: 15 Mar 1998 22:09:37 GMT Organization: Tufts University Lines: 32 Approved: Kid Tested, Moderator Approved Message-ID: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: allegro.eecs.tufts.edu X-Trace: news3.tufts.edu 889999777 10640 (None) 192.138.177.97 X-Complaints-To: news@news.tufts.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Path: ccw.ch!bali.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!feeder.qis.net!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed5.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.tufts.edu!allegro!kisrael A friend of mine is setting up a Saturn (the car company) kiosk at a mall and is having a Win95 PC setup to allow mall patrons to browse Saturn web sites ( http://www.saturn.com , and a few sites of the form www.SaturnOfCityname.com ) I've already setup a custom startpage for him with links to those 4 sites, but was wondering if anyone could suggest a way of limiting MS-IE to localhost and just those sites? (A wildcard solution that just allowed access to any URL with "Saturn" in the name would be fine.) I don't know if any of the "Net Nanny" programs could be adapted to this ude, or if there's a chaper solution. lame obComfortHack: At home I like to use my computer from the comfort of the old college papasan chair (satellite dish shaped thing.) Being so far from the desk makes using a regular mouse difficult (though I sometimes have put a mousepad on a hardback book and used that as the surface) I've gained a lot of skills in getting around Win95 without any secondary input device (it's one of the better OSs for that) but some programs (especially Netscape) are unusable without. I considered getting another trackball, but good ones are somewhat expensive, bad ones are annoying to use, and I like having a mouse for use with Paint programs. The hack was realising that a decent mouse substitute i bundled on every Win95 CD-- you just have to pretend that you're Handicapped (that's the vaguely hacky part)-- Under "Accesibility Options" is a nifty program called MouseKeys that changes the numberpad (usually one of the biggest wastes of real-estate for the majority of keyboard users) into a Mouse. -- Kirk Israel - kisrael@cs.tufts.edu - http://www.alienbill.com Here I am; I'm here-- in my mind, and yours, it seems. Please don't hold me too dear. Some dreams are unrealized. ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.wli.net!news.he.net!pulsar.dimensional.com!dimensional.com!quasar.dimensional.com!flatland.dimensional.com!not-for-mail From: mackys@dim.com (Ben Cantrick) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: 15 Mar 1998 22:08:55 -0700 Organization: Silky Doll Women's Lingerie, Megatokyo, JP Lines: 38 Sender: mackys@dimensional.com Approved: hirop@ronin.net (Hiro Protagonist) Message-ID: <6eic57$g32@flatland.dimensional.com> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: flatland.dimensional.com X-Caution: Address heavily filtered. If mail bounces, "finger -l" for options. In article <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu>, Kirk Is wrote: >A friend of mine is setting up a Saturn (the car company) kiosk at a mall >and is having a Win95 PC setup to allow mall patrons to browse Saturn web >sites ( http://www.saturn.com , and a few sites of the form >www.SaturnOfCityname.com ) I've already setup a custom startpage for him >with links to those 4 sites, but was wondering if anyone could suggest a >way of limiting MS-IE to localhost and just those sites? (A wildcard >solution that just allowed access to any URL with "Saturn" in the name >would be fine.) I don't know if any of the "Net Nanny" programs could be >adapted to this ude, or if there's a chaper solution. Get an el-cheapo 386 (you can probably find one for $50 at some junk store) and put a very minimal distribution of Linux on it. Slap an ethernet card in it, and make a very simple PERL script to act as a filtering proxy. (Only lets through stuff with "saturn" in the name go through, else returns a "403 Denied".) Turn off all other services. ("rm /etc/inetd.conf" + reboot should be fine.) Set the proxy settings of the browser to point to the proxy box and somehow "freeze" them in. Easy, except the part where you have to make an M$ product do something two degrees different than normal. ObHack: light-weight NTP daemon for Solaris and Linux. I hate how complex xntpd is to set up if you just want a dumb solution to update the clock every so often. But cron jobs will cause a bunch of well-synced machines to hammer the server _exactly_ at the top of the hour. So I'm writing a probabilistically random updating NTP daemon for Linux/Sol that you can just start and it'll run. No config files, no complex junk, just a very minimal small subset of NTP-speaking clock nudger. -Ben -- Ben Cantrick (mackys@dim.com) | Yes, the BGC dubs still suck. BGC Nukem: http://www.dim.com/~mackys/bgcnukem.html The Spamdogs: http://www.dim.com/~mackys/spamdogs "I don't want the world... I just want your half." -They Might Be Giants ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: wess@gtii.com (Wes Szumera) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:18:42 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 70 Sender: @208.154.70.37 Approved: CIA@FBI.MIL Message-ID: <6ehntv$9a0$1@usenet50.supernews.com> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> Reply-To: wess@gtii.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 9536@208.154.70.37 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 kisrael@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) wrote: >A friend of mine is setting up a Saturn (the car company) kiosk at a mall >and is having a Win95 PC setup to allow mall patrons to browse Saturn web >sites ( http://www.saturn.com , and a few sites of the form >www.SaturnOfCityname.com ) I've already setup a custom startpage for him >with links to those 4 sites, but was wondering if anyone could suggest a >way of limiting MS-IE to localhost and just those sites? (A wildcard >solution that just allowed access to any URL with "Saturn" in the name >would be fine.) I don't know if any of the "Net Nanny" programs could be >adapted to this ude, or if there's a chaper solution. > Well in a month or so you should be able to download netscapes product from www.motzilla.org, then you can lock it down and get the job done right. I was thinging about using route to change gateway for everything other than saturn's addresses but that may be ugly as a solution. OBHACK1: Remove the keyboard! If they can't click it, they can't go there! Need to due some surgery on the other icon's on desktop and on taskbar. OBhack2: Hope I didn't use this before. Once upon a time, I was a MARINE radar tech MOS 6657. I ts'd and fixed radar and weapons guidance systems on the F4-J and F-4S Phantom II. Two J-79's will make anything fly. We finally went digital (8080) from the analog computers in the turtleback. This was great. Then we got an upgrade to some wiring that would survive enviromental hazards. HINT, don't try to strip Kevlar insulated wire with your teeth. Problem was that the wiring bundles were a little short. Had a bunch uf 100+ pin conectors that mated to the computers. We also had Clark and Abafy. They used 'cannon plug' plier to install the connectors. This is a set of Channelocks (tm) with nylon jaws. The tool is for taking them off. Well due the the fact that the cables were short, it was tough to get the connectors on and easy to miss one of the three pins the helical ring connected to. If you used excessive force, you bent all the pins. They did, downed 2 or 3 airframes. This isn't good. The squadron CO is rated by the number of "Full mission capable" a/c he has. The avionics OIC is rated bye his systems not causing a Non full mission event. Fixing the plug sucked but fixing the problem sounded better. I wanted to add an inch or so to the cables. The Westinghouse techrep said this was going to cause timing problems. On an 8080 at 4mhz, lets get real. I pointed out that a nanosecond was about 11 inches or so. (Thanks Grace Harper) and he backed down rather quickly. No the hack was making pin extractors out of aluminum soda can's. Seemed like only 10 of the plastic pin extractors existed in the whole supply system. 1500 pins tends to wear out a few. The three we had didn't last long. Now I may have mentioned this before but there was a social engineering hack also. I managed to get my OIC to transfer these clowns so I wouln'd have do do this again and latter, Westinghouse or whoever lengthened the wires. ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed2.uk.ibm.net!sackheads.org!ibm.net!europa.clark.net!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: chip76@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Vinocur) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:23:37 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 41 Approved: chip76@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <351099e6.7159528@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vfg-pa5-08.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Mar 15 9:25:35 PM CST 1998 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 On 15 Mar 1998 22:09:37 GMT, kisrael@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) wrote: :A friend of mine is setting up a Saturn (the car company) kiosk at a mall :and is having a Win95 PC setup to allow mall patrons to browse Saturn web :sites ( http://www.saturn.com , and a few sites of the form :www.SaturnOfCityname.com ) I've already setup a custom startpage for him :with links to those 4 sites, but was wondering if anyone could suggest a :way of limiting MS-IE to localhost and just those sites? (A wildcard :solution that just allowed access to any URL with "Saturn" in the name :would be fine.) I don't know if any of the "Net Nanny" programs could be :adapted to this ude, or if there's a chaper solution. Something I just saw may help. Go to the latest reverse telephone lookup site, http://www.anywho.com/, and click the privacy link on the link bar at the top of the page. Somewhere in there it transfers you to another site, where one of the standard links is "Banner Adverisement" or something similar. They have a program to download (free) that lets you specify addresses you want to block (they intend for you to type in the hosts for the annoying banner ads that are rampant nowadays and their program acts as a proxy server that blocks those requests and returns a Document Not Available or something like that). But you should be able to specify "deny all sites" and then allow a given list only. (The documentation shows how to do this, I haven't tried it.) Their standard disclaimer seems to be Beware of Users That Can Change the Proxy Server. ObThoughtHack: The above: using a spam-blocker to restrict net access (on the spur of the moment). -- Jeff Vinocur chip76@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3768/ ###### From: SirTwist@pobox.com (John Alan 'Sir Twist' Belli) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:19:26 -0500 Organization: Jackson's Whole Lines: 41 Approved: Agent and Free Agent users, RTFM! This is trivial and will not be accepted as a hack. Message-ID: <6ek8hg$m4s@news3.newsguy.com> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-538.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: ccw.ch!bali.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 15 Mar 1998 22:09:37 GMT, In alt.hackers, in message <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu>, kisrael@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) said: >A friend of mine is setting up a Saturn (the car company) kiosk at a mall >and is having a Win95 PC setup to allow mall patrons to browse Saturn web >sites ( http://www.saturn.com , and a few sites of the form >www.SaturnOfCityname.com ) I've already setup a custom startpage for him >with links to those 4 sites, but was wondering if anyone could suggest a >way of limiting MS-IE to localhost and just those sites? (A wildcard .... The easiest, cheapest way I can think of is to first add all the hosts and their IPs you want to be able to reach to the hosts file, then disable the DNS for the dial up connection. If it's a network connection, you may have to turn on DNS in the Network Properties, and may need to enter a dummy server. Naturally, I would turn on all the security features, too. ST - -- Sir Twist is John Alan Belli sirtwist@pobox.com PGP Key ID 0xFD7399CD http://www.pobox.com/~sirtwist 62906E6A F1F26625 0830F0F5 4E0CB80C By finger, and on website and keyservers. U/~ (_@___# O- All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNQ2evtiLDoWfmlIzEQKt7ACeM5p/0TqaG1t/IqdtIXPHl0jNgbkAnA36 STZJmSWVHhXVsi2K8iJg0bcO =SsA4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ###### Newsgroups: alt.hackers References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> Approved: By cordless phones and by remote control. Organization: Organisation Against Organization. Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control From: shri@cs.umass.edu (H.Shrikumar) NNTP-Posting-Host: eternity.cs.umass.edu X-NNTP-Posting-Host: eternity.cs.umass.edu Message-ID: <350e0e91.0@rcfnews.cs.umass.edu> Date: 17 Mar 98 05:48:01 GMT Lines: 87 Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-dc.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.xcom.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!boston-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!umass.edu!rcfnews.cs.umass.edu!shri Kirk Is wrote, in news:<6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> : >and is having a Win95 PC setup to allow mall patrons to browse Saturn web >sites ( http://www.saturn.com , and a few sites of the form >www.SaturnOfCityname.com ) I've already setup a custom startpage for him >with links to those 4 sites, but was wondering if anyone could suggest a 1. How about (the MSIE equivalent of) turning caching on, setting aging and deletion of cache to never, check page always/once-a-day/never to never. Then you prefetch all the pages reachable from the start page, and finally yank off the net connection. 2. Or better yet, download all the pages and their gifs to disk (and unless someone has wired in BASE URLs), firing off the top page from off the disk. Of course, this will work only for static pages, with no forms to turn in. But if that is the case, it might save some net connectivity money. 3. I dont know if you can do this is Windows, (can I hazard a guess -- no?) but how about setting DNS off, and preloading the desirable host IP addresses by hand at set-up time. Heck these were not upto hack par, now I need an Ob Hack .... A friend called me after what had turned out to be in a while, and I had no reason in the world to want to loose the call, but my eevil conspiring phone was not of like mind -- it broke in mid conversation. It broke in a funny way too, the receiver (speaker) part of it just went dead, with no sidetone -- leading me to think two possibilities, either I lost my pair to the local office and hence talk battery as well, or some gremlin chewed on an audio amp chip in my phone and quaffed up the vital blue smoke normally trapped in the little epoxy case that makes it work. Oops! As my mind raced to hack ("cant lose her, cant lose her now"), I figgered a thing or two quickly. I turned to my vt100, punched up an ATM2, ATDT-nothing. This gave me back a speaker (wow, a speakerphone! :) that lasted just till dialtone timeout of my modem (60 secs) -- but that was quite enough time to say hello, hear her voice back and be reassured that she was still there. Whew! So I told her how my phone had just died on me, had met its maker, was grimly reaped, had passed on, and was now an ex-telephone. And I promised her that I'll call her right back, in about 30 mins. Then I jumped into the car, off to the mall, and returned with a long-overdue spanking new phone home. "And we lived happily ever after", you might think. Well close, but no cigar. K-mart had a nice looking cordless phone on deep discount sale, and that cordless phone, to my deepest regret, had caught my eye. Yep, you're right -- the dead-empty brand new battery in the cordless wouldnt let me use it for the next 12 hours, not until it was charged up, burped and had a diaper change. Oops, and Oops biso! During all this, you'll recall, she was still there, waiting on a tether, expecting my call back. What to do ? !ZOT! An idea!. I pulled out the battery connector on the phone's 3.6volt NiCd pack, poked a pair of 22awg jumper wire into them, and wired the cordless to the battery compartment on my stereo remote control. The 2xAAA 3 volts proved enough juice, luckily. Whew! PS: That day might have proved a lot worse had it turned out that it was my car, and not my cordless phone that had needed the jumper cables. Perhaps, after all, there *is* a God. -- //Shrikumar shri@cs.umass.edu ###### Path: ccw.ch!usenet From: Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:44:37 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Approved: who need approval? Lines: 64 Message-ID: <3512AB05.8A710DDC@ccw.ch> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i486) Kirk Is wrote: > A friend of mine is setting up a Saturn (the car company) kiosk at a mall > and is having a Win95 PC setup to allow mall patrons to browse Saturn web > sites ( http://www.saturn.com , and a few sites of the form > www.SaturnOfCityname.com ) I've already setup a custom startpage for him > with links to those 4 sites, but was wondering if anyone could suggest a > way of limiting MS-IE to localhost and just those sites? (A wildcard > solution that just allowed access to any URL with "Saturn" in the name > would be fine.) I don't know if any of the "Net Nanny" programs could be > adapted to this ude, or if there's a chaper solution. Well I know you specifeid MS IE. But if going to any Unix were OK you could use my... ObInfoKioskHack We have at work an Info-Kiosk in the foyer. One day when exploring the system (I am the new sysadmin since 1 month) I discovered in the hosts file, that this is running NT+IE. As we are an Unix shop (I admin the SGIs and Suns) and heavy Netscape users (see the X-Newsreader of this) I was surprised. A small talk with the kioskadmin (we had just walked by the Kiosk and seen it crashed once again) brought the problem to light. IE will run without "decorations", just the page visible. NS will not. I started thinking through all the obvious (= reconfiguring NS) ways, then the hacker in me struck: Use the -geometry parameter to NS to position and resize it so that all the decorations lay outside the visible range (0-639 x 0-479), so they are not clickable (whether NS draws then isn't relevant, just users using them). With this method one only has to then make sure that all pages only have links to other legal pages (this may mean duplicating them from the public Web pages). Note that our Info Kiosk has no keyboard, so Alt-L is not possible. Note also that because it is a touch screen (simulates 1 button mouse) one can not use the left button to do "Back" and the "Back" button at the top is off screen. So all the pages must have an Back button (or two, one at top, one at bottom) in them. Or one would have to use frames and an navigation bar (with Back and Top). ObSysadminEscapeHack Preventing the public from surfing off is one thing. Being able to do it oneself is OTOH "desired". So in my page footer "this page by" embed an invisible link to an escape page. As I use an link style with underlinig switched off I simply put an around one of the spaces there. -- private: Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch, http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/ office: franklin.remove.this@arch.ethz.ch, http://caad.arch.ethz.ch/~franklin/ I don't like it Microsoft, I like it Megahard If I go missing, its once again my newsfeed that has craped ###### From: fail@psc.edu (John Fail) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: 20 Mar 1998 21:42:28 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center Lines: 17 Approved: :devorppA Message-ID: <6euns4$1d0@news.psc.edu> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> <6ehntv$9a0$1@usenet50.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kludge.psc.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!209.150.160.22!newsfeed.wli.net!nac!newsfeed.lightning.net!newssrvr.alleghenypower.com!news.psc.edu!fail Wes Szumera (wess@gtii.com) wrote these magic words: : OBHACK1: : Remove the keyboard! If they can't click it, they can't go there! : Need to due some surgery on the other icon's on desktop and on : taskbar. ObHack: clicking "open location" in netscape or whatever web browser, then cutting and pasting the url you wish to go to, letter by letter. it can be done, at least to go to some sites. -john http://www.clpgh.org/~fail/ ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-fw.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.4.64.199!miwok!ultra.sonic.net!not-for-mail From: fryman@sonic.net (Troy Arnold) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: 21 Mar 1998 05:26:37 GMT Organization: ? Lines: 42 Approved: Uh huh. Message-ID: <6evj2d$kup$1@ultra.sonic.net> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> <3512AB05.8A710DDC@ccw.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: bolt.sonic.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch wrote: - ObInfoKioskHack - - We have at work an Info-Kiosk in the foyer. One day when exploring the - system (I am the new sysadmin since 1 month) I discovered in the hosts - file, that this is running NT+IE. As we are an Unix shop (I admin the - SGIs and Suns) and heavy Netscape users (see the X-Newsreader of this) I - was surprised. - - A small talk with the kioskadmin (we had just walked by the Kiosk and - seen it crashed once again) brought the problem to light. IE will run - without "decorations", just the page visible. NS will not. - I lick your hack, but how about a little javascript. Stick the following into Navigator's location field: javascript: window.open("", "","scollbars"); or, with a default URL: javascript: window.open("http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html", "","scrollbars"); Since you don't have a keyboard attached to the kiosk, that should do the trick. BustedTripodHack: Using a paperclip and its accompanying paper (folded just so) to repair a busted tripod hinge. Yawn. Oh well. Some people swear by duct tape, i swear by paperclips. -t ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!cgram.demon.co.uk!norg.demon.com.uk!not-for-mail From: Kira L. Brown Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:09:03 +0000 Organization: norg! Technologies Sender: Kira L. Brown Approved: Automatically with Messenger! Message-ID: <482A4ED3BD%kbrown@norg.demon.com.uk> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> <6ehntv$9a0$1@usenet50.supernews.com> <6euns4$1d0@news.psc.edu> Reply-To: kbrown@norg.demon.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: cgram.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: cgram.demon.co.uk [193.237.113.134] X-Newsreader: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21ß X-Mangled: using ZapEmail's AST (ygolonhceT mapS-itnA) X-Apparently-From: kbrown@norg.demon.co.uk X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60g X-NNTP-Poster: NewsHound v1.20 Lines: 35 In message <6euns4$1d0@news.psc.edu> fail@psc.edu (John Fail) wrote: > Wes Szumera (wess@gtii.com) wrote these magic words: > > : OBHACK1: > > : Remove the keyboard! If they can't click it, they can't go there! > : Need to due some surgery on the other icon's on desktop and on > : taskbar. > > > ObHack: > > clicking "open location" in netscape or whatever web browser, then > cutting and pasting the url you wish to go to, letter by letter. it can > be done, at least to go to some sites. ObHack: Put the machine behind a firewall. Bar access to all domains except those you wish access to be available to. Okay, real obhack then: Using my Minidisc recorder as a listening device so that I could pinpoint the nasty noise coming from my workstation. Turned out to be the processor fan. Sigh, if only all machines were like my StrongARM I'm using here... no processor fan. No heatsink even. -- Kira L. Brown. Testing Zap 1.39. Brave or what? Slam a revolving door today! ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.idt.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!xs4all!not-for-mail From: Tanstaafl@?geocities.com (Tanstaafl) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: Wanted: Web browser domain control Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:23:40 GMT Organization: The Royal Phreakers Household®/ There ain't no such thing as a free lunch Sender: gapc@asd117.pi.net Approved: route@RESENTMENT.INFONEXUS.COM Message-ID: <3518ca47.4264468@news.xs4all.nl> References: <6ehjj1$acg$1@news3.tufts.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: asd117.pi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-XS4ALL-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:26:20 CET X-XS4ALL-User: gapc@xs4all.nl on asd117.pi.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 48 With great joy and love, kisrael@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) wrote: Hello Kirk Is, >A friend of mine is setting up a Saturn (the car company) kiosk at a = mall=20 >and is having a Win95 PC setup to allow mall patrons to browse Saturn = web >sites ( http://www.saturn.com , and a few sites of the form >www.SaturnOfCityname.com ) I've already setup a custom startpage for him >with links to those 4 sites, but was wondering if anyone could suggest a >way of limiting MS-IE to localhost and just those sites? (A wildcard >solution that just allowed access to any URL with "Saturn" in the name >would be fine.) I don't know if any of the "Net Nanny" programs could be >adapted to this ude, or if there's a chaper solution. You probably can, only you'd have to remember that anybody with a frame-file called saturn.htm(l) can access the URL and browse the web from there. ObHack: A different problem is that, using the above method, a quick visit to a site that crashes the browser may actually enable the person using the computer to crash the browser and/or any other programs run on the computer. Try the DigiCrime site: (http://www.digicrime.com) One obviously lame suggestion would be to not have a keyboard connected, but a better suggestion is to install a simple Netkiosk, I believe that Cybertron does a good rendition of this program. However this creates a different problem if you haven't secured your computer properly... C:\CYBERTRON> REN NETKIOSKE.EXE NOTKIOSK.EXE C:\CYBERTRON> COPY \WINDOWS\POLEDIT.EXE NETKIOSK.EXE This will seriously fuck with your computer. (excuse my Anglo-Saxon.) -- blaze your trail! David Dune, co-founder of The Royal Phreakers Household mailto:info-rphh@*technologist.com?subject=3DFAQ mailto:info-rphh@*technologist.com?subject=3DInfo+RPHH Get backissues from: http://www.jasper.force9.co(dot)uk Unsolicited commercial email read for $500 per message.