From: algrant@myrealbox.com (Al Grant) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: 7 Nov 2003 01:27:57 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.131.176.54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1068197277 30078 127.0.0.1 (7 Nov 2003 09:27:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154483 When I was new on the job I remember being told about some OS or other piece of big-iron software with a variable or parameter called LIVERSAUSAGE which measured current usage of the RSA component (I have no idea what that would have been, Real Storage Area? This was a couple decades ago so probably not RSA encryption). I remembered this recently but couldn't find a reference. Name's a bit long for IBM. Was it VMS? Or was someone pulling my leg? ###### From: Jdavis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 02:25:19 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 14 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.hispeed.ch!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!prodigy.com!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154485 Al Grant wrote: > When I was new on the job I remember being told about some OS or > other piece of big-iron software with a variable or parameter called > LIVERSAUSAGE > which measured current usage of the RSA component (I have no > idea what that would have been, Real Storage Area? This was > a couple decades ago so probably not RSA encryption). > > I remembered this recently but couldn't find a reference. Name's a > bit long for IBM. Was it VMS? Or was someone pulling my leg? Well, live_rsa_usage seems to make some kind of sense. Jim Davis. ###### From: Trog Woolley Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: trog-oz.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1068222930 22152 80.176.225.249 (7 Nov 2003 16:35:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:35:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.3 (Linux) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154512 While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway algrant@myrealbox.com typed: > When I was new on the job I remember being told about some OS or > other piece of big-iron software with a variable or parameter called > LIVERSAUSAGE > which measured current usage of the RSA component (I have no > idea what that would have been, Real Storage Area? This was > a couple decades ago so probably not RSA encryption). > > I remembered this recently but couldn't find a reference. Name's a > bit long for IBM. Was it VMS? Or was someone pulling my leg? It would have to be IBM, as they have an obsession with meat. Ask an AIX sys admin type about DEADBEEF -- Trog Woolley | trog at trogwoolley dot com (A Croweater back residing in Pommie Land with Linux) Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inanna ###### From: algrant@myrealbox.com (Al Grant) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: 7 Nov 2003 09:28:15 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.131.176.54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1068226095 30610 127.0.0.1 (7 Nov 2003 17:28:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154522 Jdavis wrote in message news:... > Al Grant wrote: > > When I was new on the job I remember being told about some OS or > > other piece of big-iron software with a variable or parameter called > > LIVERSAUSAGE > > which measured current usage of the RSA component (I have no > > idea what that would have been, Real Storage Area? This was > > a couple decades ago so probably not RSA encryption). > > > > I remembered this recently but couldn't find a reference. Name's a > > bit long for IBM. Was it VMS? Or was someone pulling my leg? > > Well, live_rsa_usage seems to make some kind of sense. That's the point. It was one of those things like PowerPC's EIEIO instruction where you wonder to what extent it was contrived for amusement value. All I'm asking is whether it existed at all. ##### From: _firstname_@lr_dot_los-gatos_dot_ca.us Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:35:51 -0000 Organization: At home Message-ID: <1068233751.23639@smirk> References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: lr@idiom.com (Ralph Becker-Szendy) Cache-Post-Path: smirk!lr@idiom.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 43 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154534 In article <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com>, Al Grant wrote: > Jdavis wrote in message > news:... > > Al Grant wrote: > > > When I was new on the job I remember being told about some OS or > > > other piece of big-iron software with a variable or parameter called > > > LIVERSAUSAGE > > > which measured current usage of the RSA component (I have no > > > idea what that would have been, Real Storage Area? This was > > > a couple decades ago so probably not RSA encryption). > > > > > > I remembered this recently but couldn't find a reference. Name's a > > > bit long for IBM. Was it VMS? Or was someone pulling my leg? > > > > Well, live_rsa_usage seems to make some kind of sense. > >That's the point. It was one of those things like PowerPC's EIEIO >instruction where you wonder to what extent it was contrived for >amusement value. All I'm asking is whether it existed at all. There is indeed a PowerPC instruction named EIEIO. In the IBM StorageTank file system, there is an IO mode (IO here means: disk reading and writing) that was also called EIEIO during development. Here, the acronym stood for Enterprise Investment Enabling IO. It is a special IO mode designed for large enterprise-class applications (hint: large databases) when using large systems (hint: many CPUs) on large storage systems (hint: large disk arrays, for example named after a fish). Unfortunately, already during development the name was changed to something common and boring, because we knew that if we didn't change it, the humor-less marketing people would. Over a beer sometime, I might tell someone the story of the "cesspool" that was also for a while an important component of StorageTank. It, alas, has also been renamed. -- The address in the header is invalid for obvious reasons. Please reconstruct the address from the information below (look for _). Ralph Becker-Szendy _firstname_@lr _dot_ los-gatos _dot_ ca.us ###### Message-ID: <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.1.126.198 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s52 1068235092 24.1.126.198 (Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:58:12 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:58:12 GMT Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:58:12 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!attbi_s52.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154537 Al Grant wrote: > > Jdavis wrote in message news:... > > Al Grant wrote: > > > When I was new on the job I remember being told about some OS or > > > other piece of big-iron software with a variable or parameter called > > > LIVERSAUSAGE > > > which measured current usage of the RSA component (I have no > > > idea what that would have been, Real Storage Area? This was > > > a couple decades ago so probably not RSA encryption). > > > > > > I remembered this recently but couldn't find a reference. Name's a > > > bit long for IBM. Was it VMS? Or was someone pulling my leg? > > > > Well, live_rsa_usage seems to make some kind of sense. > > That's the point. It was one of those things like PowerPC's EIEIO > instruction where you wonder to what extent it was contrived for > amusement value. All I'm asking is whether it existed at all. > Personally, I liked the 6809's SEX instruction, or the PDP-11's SOB instruction. You can *not* convince me that whoever wrote those assemblers did *not* know they were making a joke... I guess back in the olden days, having to code without C, the poor systems programmers could *not* create the variable "live_rsa_usage". So we must in some respects be in a better situation as programmers today... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: Roger Ivie Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net> Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (NetBSD) Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.219.242.36 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mchsi.com X-Trace: attbi_s03 1068238407 12.219.242.36 (Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:53:27 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:53:27 GMT Organization: MediaCom High Speed Internet Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:53:27 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!attbi_s03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154548 In article <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: > Personally, I liked the 6809's SEX instruction, or the PDP-11's > SOB instruction. You can *not* convince me that whoever wrote > those assemblers did *not* know they were making a joke... The 8051 has ORL and ANL along with a note in the data book admonishing you to be careful with pronunciation. -- Roger Ivie rivie@ridgenet.net ###### From: "Russ Holsclaw" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Lines: 37 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:47:22 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.38.216.149 X-Trace: news.uswest.net 1068241776 216.38.216.149 (Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:49:36 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:49:36 CST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.news.qwest.net!news.uswest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154551 > It would have to be IBM, as they have an obsession with meat. > Ask an AIX sys admin type about DEADBEEF I gather that one was a hexadecimal number, rather than a variable name. I suppose used to mark uninitialized memory or some such thing. Seemingly joking variable names have been known to arise unintentionally. I recall once some colleagues in the same building where I worked at IBM were developing a computer-aided instruction system called the Interactive Training System, or "ITS". One of the DSECTs in it ("data structure" to you non-mainframe types) listed a number of storage cells commonly addressable to a lot of the ITS code, and all included, by convention, the "ITS-" prefix. One of these fields was some sort of search Hit-count, so it was labelled ITSHITS. It was quite a while before anyone noticed, and it wasn't intentional. I know because it would not have fit the personality of the guy who came up with that name. Three-letter prefixes were often used at IBM to disambiguate modules belonging to different software components. They were also used as prefixes for message numbers and other such things. It was called a "component code" and usually started with "I" (for IBM). In most cases, the codes were assigned arbitrarily and weren't acronyms, but sometimes they produced amusing side-effects. Once, I worked on a module involved with downloading program fixes. We had been assigned the component code of "INA" for this component, so naturally we wound up with a module called INAFIX. Anyway, I don't find it at all impossible for a name like LIVERSAUSAGE to be purely accidental. ###### Message-ID: <3FAC4482.4B9AD55D@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.1.126.198 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s52 1068247413 24.1.126.198 (Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:23:33 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:23:33 GMT Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:23:33 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!attbi_s52.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154559 Roger Ivie wrote: > > In article <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: > > Personally, I liked the 6809's SEX instruction, or the PDP-11's > > SOB instruction. You can *not* convince me that whoever wrote > > those assemblers did *not* know they were making a joke... > > The 8051 has ORL and ANL along with a note in the data book admonishing > you to be careful with pronunciation. > And we know that "bits" is short for the words "binary digits". It is lucky that we do *not* use "ternary digits"... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Message-ID: <3FAC452B.C4EFAB4C@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.1.126.198 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s52 1068247582 24.1.126.198 (Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:26:22 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:26:22 GMT Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:26:22 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!eusc.inter.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!attbi_s52.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154560 Russ Holsclaw wrote: > > > It would have to be IBM, as they have an obsession with > meat. > > Ask an AIX sys admin type about DEADBEEF > > I gather that one was a hexadecimal number, rather than a > variable name. I suppose used to mark uninitialized memory > or some such thing. > > Seemingly joking variable names have been known to arise > unintentionally. > > I recall once some colleagues in the same building where I > worked at IBM were developing a computer-aided instruction > system called the Interactive Training System, or "ITS". One > of the DSECTs in it ("data structure" to you non-mainframe > types) listed a number of storage cells commonly addressable > to a lot of the ITS code, and all included, by convention, > the "ITS-" prefix. One of these fields was some sort of > search Hit-count, so it was labelled ITSHITS. It was quite a > while before anyone noticed, and it wasn't intentional. I > know because it would not have fit the personality of the > guy who came up with that name. > Next you will be trying to convince us that Arthur C. Clarke was telling the truth...when he said that the name "HAL" was *not* chosen because each letter precedes the letters of"IBM" in the alphabet. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: "Rupert Pigott" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:13:11 -0000 Organization: Titanic Enterprises Unlimited Lines: 18 Message-ID: <1068297191.802730@saucer.planet.gong> References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: darkboong.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1068297192 1346 80.177.7.220 (8 Nov 2003 13:13:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:13:12 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Priority: 3 X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cache-Post-Path: saucer.planet.gong!unknown@192.168.69.33 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!213.253.16.105.MISMATCH!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154591 "Charles Richmond" wrote in message news:3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net... [SNIP] > Personally, I liked the 6809's SEX instruction, or the PDP-11's > SOB instruction. You can *not* convince me that whoever wrote > those assemblers did *not* know they were making a joke... Pretty sure that I've already mentioned this... But I co-wrote a system that fed Liquidity reports to the Bank of England called "LIAR". We fully expected it to be squished by management, but surprisingly they actually liked it & kept it. :) Cheers, Rupert ###### From: "Don Chiasson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <3FAC452B.C4EFAB4C@comcast.net> Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Lines: 20 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:58:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.157.42.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1068307083 24.157.42.82 (Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:58:03 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:58:03 EST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!cyclone01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154594 "Charles Richmond" wrote in message news:3FAC452B.C4EFAB4C@comcast.net... [snip..] > > Next you will be trying to convince us that Arthur C. Clarke > was telling the truth...when he said that the name "HAL" was > *not* chosen because each letter precedes the letters of"IBM" > in the alphabet. > Then there's Dave Cutler who was the VMS person at DEC. He left to do the new operating system at M$, Windows NT. VMS. WNT. Coincidence? I think not. ++Don e-mail: it's not not, it's hot. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.70.224.194 From: "Kingbarry2000" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net> <1068297191.802730@saucer.planet.gong> Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Lines: 28 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:24:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.67.253.205 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1068312247 24.67.253.205 (Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:24:07 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:24:07 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!167.206.3.103.MISMATCH!news3.optonline.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154597 "Rupert Pigott" wrote in message news:1068297191.802730@saucer.planet.gong... > "Charles Richmond" wrote in message > news:3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net... > > [SNIP] > > > Personally, I liked the 6809's SEX instruction, or the PDP-11's > > SOB instruction. You can *not* convince me that whoever wrote > > those assemblers did *not* know they were making a joke... > > Pretty sure that I've already mentioned this... But I co-wrote > a system that fed Liquidity reports to the Bank of England > called "LIAR". We fully expected it to be squished by management, > but surprisingly they actually liked it & kept it. :) > > Cheers, > Rupert > > My last project, for a RR : RATes -- Porto le corna ch'ogni Huomo le vede, e qualch' Altro le porta che nol crede. ###### From: Keith R. Williams Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:53:49 -0500 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <3FAC452B.C4EFAB4C@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-838.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154706 In article , don_chiasson@notmail.com says... > > "Charles Richmond" wrote in message > news:3FAC452B.C4EFAB4C@comcast.net... > [snip..] > > > > Next you will be trying to convince us that Arthur C. Clarke > > was telling the truth...when he said that the name "HAL" was > > *not* chosen because each letter precedes the letters of"IBM" > > in the alphabet. > > > > Then there's Dave Cutler who was the VMS person at DEC. > He left to do the new operating system at M$, Windows NT. > VMS. WNT. Coincidence? I think not. How about WinCE? Coincidence? -- Keith ###### From: Eric Sosman Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:56:57 -0500 Organization: Sun Microsystems Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3FAFD169.4A7A4F@sun.com> References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net> <3FAC4482.4B9AD55D@comcast.net> Reply-To: Eric.Sosman@Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: tardis.east.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news1brm.Central.Sun.COM 1068487017 25778 129.148.168.113 (10 Nov 2003 17:56:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news1brm.central.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:56:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-CCK-MCD [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!zeus.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!feed.news.qwest.net!namche.sun.com!news1brm.central.sun.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154705 Charles Richmond wrote: > > > And we know that "bits" is short for the words "binary digits". > It is lucky that we do *not* use "ternary digits"... Knuth calls them "trits," and the underlying hardware implementation a "flip-flap-flop." -- Eric.Sosman@sun.com ###### From: algrant@myrealbox.com (Al Grant) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: 13 Nov 2003 05:27:22 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5765b025.0311130527.29ac5573@posting.google.com> References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.131.176.54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1068730042 3474 127.0.0.1 (13 Nov 2003 13:27:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:154926 "Russ Holsclaw" wrote in message news:... > of the DSECTs in it ("data structure" to you non-mainframe > types) listed a number of storage cells commonly addressable > to a lot of the ITS code, and all included, by convention, > the "ITS-" prefix. One of these fields was some sort of > search Hit-count, so it was labelled ITSHITS. It was quite a > while before anyone noticed, and it wasn't intentional. I used IBM's TCP/IP. It had lots of Pascal modules with names like TCPSEND, TCPRECV, TCPSOCK etc. The module that read the startup options string was called TCPARSE. Funnier for the Brits I guess. > module involved with downloading program fixes. We had been > assigned the component code of "INA" for this component, so > naturally we wound up with a module called INAFIX. DF/SMS had the code "IGD" and its main module was IGDZILLA. ###### From: David Powell Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: variable called LIVERSAUSAGE? Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:01:51 +0000 Organization: Nextra UK Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <5765b025.0311070127.262bfa3b@posting.google.com> <5765b025.0311070928.7ab75c67@posting.google.com> <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net> <3FAC4482.4B9AD55D@comcast.net> Reply-To: ddotpowell@icuknet.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: 29.25.153.194.dial.cix.gxn.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: thorium.cix.co.uk 1069297249 18342 194.153.25.29 (20 Nov 2003 03:00:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@net.nextra.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:00:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!peernews.cix.co.uk!news.nextra.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:155486 In article <3FAC4482.4B9AD55D@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond in alt.folklore.computers wrote: >Roger Ivie wrote: >> >> In article <3FAC1461.1A3103AB@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >> > Personally, I liked the 6809's SEX instruction, or the PDP-11's >> > SOB instruction. You can *not* convince me that whoever wrote >> > those assemblers did *not* know they were making a joke... >> >> The 8051 has ORL and ANL along with a note in the data book admonishing >> you to be careful with pronunciation. >> >And we know that "bits" is short for the words "binary digits". >It is lucky that we do *not* use "ternary digits"... It's just as well that "octet" etc did not find common use to define a "byte" of known size. The omnibus PDP-8 byteswap instruction would have SSW rather than BSW as its assembler mnemonic, pronounced in two syllables as... Regards, David P.