From: "Don Chiasson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Lines: 70 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 13:57:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.157.42.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1064066265 24.157.42.82 (Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:57:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:57:45 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!newsfeed.mountaincable.net!cyclone01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151503 Saw this on a local news group. (Original posters names and addresses snipped for privacy.) ++Don e-mail: it's not not, it's hot. ----- Original Message ----- From: ******** To: ************** Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [OT] funny: How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:20:08PM -0400, ****** wrote: given that this list is prone to this sort of thing, i thought that some would enjoy this: How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs 53 to flame the spell checkers 41 to correct spelling/grammar flames 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp" 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ 44 to ask what is a "FAQ" 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" 143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs" > 1 to give the history of how replacing light bulbs has changed > over time, and how light-bulb changers these days have it really > easy (it was dangerous! there was... voltage! But we took it > all in stride. Personally, I've changed thousands of these older > Proto Light Bulbs - I've got it down to a science.) > ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Sat, 20 Sep 03 13:32:59 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY6vlY8zkclUJeqpdE45sNvwSOOoh9+mifjqZex6Bu1pv2JlNcfv0ax X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Sep 2003 14:43:41 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!newspeer.lavaseals.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!63.218.45.10.MISMATCH!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!199.184.165.233.MISMATCH!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!209-122-233-171 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151488 In article , "Don Chiasson" wrote: > >Saw this on a local news group. (Original posters names >and addresses snipped for privacy.) This is an incomplete list. There was no thread drift notice about campfires, halon to put out runaway bulbs, and not a scrap of food on site. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:06:54 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Message-ID: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> References: X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Sep 2003 15:08:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0914.nas1-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1064070527 maya.euronet.nl 35692 62.234.211.151:2027 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151514 On Sat, 20 Sep 03 13:32:59 GMT jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: JC> In article JC> , JC> "Don Chiasson" wrote: JC> > JC> >Saw this on a local news group. (Original posters names JC> >and addresses snipped for privacy.) JC> JC> JC> This is an incomplete list. There was no thread drift notice JC> about campfires, halon to put out runaway bulbs, and not a JC> scrap of food on site. There isn't even a posting bemoaning the inelegance of modern light bulbs and expressing a wish for the old one back - to say nothing of the posts from people who consider light bulbs too new-fangled and suggest oil lamps or candles such as they themselves have been using since time immemorial. Oh and finally ... TURN OFF THAT DAMN LIGHT, it's glaring on my 'scope screen! Why d'ya think I put a dead bulb in there in the first place ? -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Sun, 21 Sep 03 09:33:19 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZQF5i/joizg7bO8RL3YQ4AbwSuTy/mbmdM+JlCYpauGbqbS4d9YDSN X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Sep 2003 10:44:14 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-226 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151546 In article , Brian Inglis wrote: >On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:13:23 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, >Charles Richmond wrote: > >>Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 20 Sep 03 13:32:59 GMT >>> jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> JC> In article >>> JC> , >>> JC> "Don Chiasson" wrote: >>> JC> > >>> JC> >Saw this on a local news group. (Original posters names >>> JC> >and addresses snipped for privacy.) >>> JC> >>> JC> >>> JC> This is an incomplete list. There was no thread drift notice >>> JC> about campfires, halon to put out runaway bulbs, and not a >>> JC> scrap of food on site. >>> >>> There isn't even a posting bemoaning the inelegance of modern >>> light bulbs and expressing a wish for the old one back - to say nothing >>> of the posts from people who consider light bulbs too new-fangled and >>> suggest oil lamps or candles such as they themselves have been using since >>> time immemorial. Oh and finally ... >>> >>> TURN OFF THAT DAMN LIGHT, it's glaring on my 'scope screen! >>> Why d'ya think I put a dead bulb in there in the first place ? >>> >>How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC >>lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi >>versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about >>how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. > >no, no, no, ... he declared darkness a standard! And then displayed bright blue. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Message-ID: <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1064114003 12.241.15.59 (Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:13:23 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:13:23 GMT Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:13:23 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.204!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151530 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Sep 03 13:32:59 GMT > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > JC> In article > JC> , > JC> "Don Chiasson" wrote: > JC> > > JC> >Saw this on a local news group. (Original posters names > JC> >and addresses snipped for privacy.) > JC> > JC> > JC> This is an incomplete list. There was no thread drift notice > JC> about campfires, halon to put out runaway bulbs, and not a > JC> scrap of food on site. > > There isn't even a posting bemoaning the inelegance of modern > light bulbs and expressing a wish for the old one back - to say nothing > of the posts from people who consider light bulbs too new-fangled and > suggest oil lamps or candles such as they themselves have been using since > time immemorial. Oh and finally ... > > TURN OFF THAT DAMN LIGHT, it's glaring on my 'scope screen! > Why d'ya think I put a dead bulb in there in the first place ? > How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 40 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:59:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1064131159 24.71.223.147 (Sun, 21 Sep 2003 01:59:19 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 01:59:19 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151529 On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:13:23 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, Charles Richmond wrote: >Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 03 13:32:59 GMT >> jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> JC> In article >> JC> , >> JC> "Don Chiasson" wrote: >> JC> > >> JC> >Saw this on a local news group. (Original posters names >> JC> >and addresses snipped for privacy.) >> JC> >> JC> >> JC> This is an incomplete list. There was no thread drift notice >> JC> about campfires, halon to put out runaway bulbs, and not a >> JC> scrap of food on site. >> >> There isn't even a posting bemoaning the inelegance of modern >> light bulbs and expressing a wish for the old one back - to say nothing >> of the posts from people who consider light bulbs too new-fangled and >> suggest oil lamps or candles such as they themselves have been using since >> time immemorial. Oh and finally ... >> >> TURN OFF THAT DAMN LIGHT, it's glaring on my 'scope screen! >> Why d'ya think I put a dead bulb in there in the first place ? >> >How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC >lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi >versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about >how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. no, no, no, ... he declared darkness a standard! Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### From: Trog Woolley Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: trog-oz.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1064134879 12475 194.222.21.247 (21 Sep 2003 09:01:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:01:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.3 (Linux) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151556 While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca typed: >>And don't forget the obligatory posts about >>how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. > > no, no, no, ... he declared darkness a standard! I didn't know that he founded the Lucas company too -- Trog Woolley | trog at trogwoolley dot com (A Croweater back residing in Pommie Land with Linux) Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inanna ###### From: see.signature@for.address (Victor Eijkhout) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:49:26 -0400 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 12 Message-ID: <1g1mvgj.1f75i8b1pregvpN%see.signature@for.address> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-063.newsdawg.com User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!see.signature Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151577 wrote: > This is an incomplete list. Indeed. No pointing out that posts about light bulbs are against the charter and the a new group alt.changing.lightbults should be created, discussion about changing the charter, posts saying "go ahead, you write the proposal", &c V. -- mail me at lastname at cs utk edu ###### From: "@c0mca$t.net" <""L0n.$towell\"@c0mca$t.net"> Reply-To: "" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1064167465 12.240.77.188 (Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:04:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:04:25 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:04:25 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp-server.caltech.edu!attla2!ip.att.net!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151576 Approximately 9/21/03 09:08, Pete Fenelon uttered for posterity: > Trog Woolley wrote: >> While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca typed: >>>>And don't forget the obligatory posts about >>>>how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. >>> >>> no, no, no, ... he declared darkness a standard! >> >> I didn't know that he founded the Lucas company too >> > > Darkness is just light that leaks oil. Darkness means your darksucker is broken. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Mon, 22 Sep 03 12:14:59 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <1g1mvgj.1f75i8b1pregvpN%see.signature@for.address> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZhqlZTghneA20S1cLeFoJnc3No/qlgY2BsJspDsIFgnEkJFiVeKPBs X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Sep 2003 13:26:03 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-144 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151614 In article <1g1mvgj.1f75i8b1pregvpN%see.signature@for.address>, see.signature@for.address (Victor Eijkhout) wrote: > wrote: > >> This is an incomplete list. > >Indeed. No pointing out that posts about light bulbs are against the >charter and the a new group alt.changing.lightbults should be created, >discussion about changing the charter, posts saying "go ahead, you write >the proposal", &c I don't think I've ever seen this one in a.f.c. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Mon, 22 Sep 03 12:16:13 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaf/cGOBePKLUpRxn02Sj4t6iWfrBsS3mj+5oUj/h2LL0AoS5svkapu X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Sep 2003 13:27:17 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-144 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151620 In article , "Hank Oredson" wrote: >Q: How many usenet posters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? >A: Two, but they have to be really small. > The light bulbs have to be really small? I don't get it. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: 22 Sep 03 11:20:08 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 21 Message-ID: <769.395T415T6803232@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <1g1mvgj.1f75i8b1pregvpN%see.signature@for.address> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-416.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151627 In article <1g1mvgj.1f75i8b1pregvpN%see.signature@for.address> see.signature@for.address (Victor Eijkhout) writes: > wrote: > >> This is an incomplete list. > >Indeed. No pointing out that posts about light bulbs are against the >charter and the a new group alt.changing.lightbults should be created, >discussion about changing the charter, posts saying "go ahead, you >write the proposal", &c Plus the obligatory flamewar from those who insist that the group should be named alt.lightbulbs.changing. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: "Hank Oredson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Lines: 84 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:46:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.193.254 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1064198765 12.81.193.254 (Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:46:05 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:46:05 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151630 Q: How many usenet posters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: Two, but they have to be really small. -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net "Don Chiasson" wrote in message news:t1Zab.2855$Lnr1.2060@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... > > Saw this on a local news group. (Original posters names > and addresses snipped for privacy.) > ++Don > > e-mail: it's not not, it's hot. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ******** > To: ************** > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: [OT] funny: How many group posters does it take to change a > light bulb? > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:20:08PM -0400, ****** wrote: > given that this list is prone to this sort of thing, i thought that some > would enjoy this: > > How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? > > 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has > been changed > > 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and > how the light bulb could have been changed differently > > 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs > > 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about > changing light bulbs > > 53 to flame the spell checkers > > 41 to correct spelling/grammar flames > > 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another > 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive > > 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the > proper term is "lamp" > > 27 to post URL's where one can see examples of > different light bulbs > > 14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and > then post the corrected URL's > > 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post > because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy > > 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ > > 44 to ask what is a "FAQ" > > 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" > > 143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before > posting questions about light bulbs" > > > 1 to give the history of how replacing light bulbs has changed > > over time, and how light-bulb changers these days have it really > > easy (it was dangerous! there was... voltage! But we took it > > all in stride. Personally, I've changed thousands of these older > > Proto Light Bulbs - I've got it down to a science.) > > > > > > > ###### Message-ID: <3F6F2731.5830FEC5@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1064242180 12.241.15.59 (Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:49:40 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:49:40 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:49:40 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.204!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151591 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > "Hank Oredson" wrote: > >Q: How many usenet posters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? > >A: Two, but they have to be really small. > > > The light bulbs have to be really small? I don't get it. > If the two posters were screwing each other in a lightbulb... obviously the posters would need to be small enough to *fit* into the lightbulb... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Mon, 22 Sep 03 12:17:48 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVag2Q7nr2WcEX0CBc8apM+KjUF6GazN8ZN7UhB+4ljAZOMlB6bYJeFw X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Sep 2003 13:28:52 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-144 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151621 In article , Roland Hutchinson wrote: >Charles Richmond wrote: > >> How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC >> lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi >> versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about >> how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. > >Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >end or the little end? Sigh! I need a socket? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 22 Sep 03 11:18:52 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 26 Message-ID: <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-415.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cyclone.bc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151631 In article pete@fenelon.com (Pete Fenelon) writes: >Trog Woolley wrote: > >> While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway >> Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca typed: >> >>>>And don't forget the obligatory posts about >>>>how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. >>> >>> no, no, no, ... he declared darkness a standard! >> >> I didn't know that he founded the Lucas company too > >Darkness is just light that leaks oil. Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Lucas makes refrigerators too. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### Message-ID: <3F6E636C.3F1A3009@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1064192063 12.241.15.59 (Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:54:23 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:54:23 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:54:23 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151590 Brian Inglis wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:13:23 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, > Charles Richmond wrote: > > >Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, 20 Sep 03 13:32:59 GMT > >> jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> JC> In article > >> JC> , > >> JC> "Don Chiasson" wrote: > >> JC> > > >> JC> >Saw this on a local news group. (Original posters names > >> JC> >and addresses snipped for privacy.) > >> JC> > >> JC> > >> JC> This is an incomplete list. There was no thread drift notice > >> JC> about campfires, halon to put out runaway bulbs, and not a > >> JC> scrap of food on site. > >> > >> There isn't even a posting bemoaning the inelegance of modern > >> light bulbs and expressing a wish for the old one back - to say nothing > >> of the posts from people who consider light bulbs too new-fangled and > >> suggest oil lamps or candles such as they themselves have been using since > >> time immemorial. Oh and finally ... > >> > >> TURN OFF THAT DAMN LIGHT, it's glaring on my 'scope screen! > >> Why d'ya think I put a dead bulb in there in the first place ? > >> > >How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC > >lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi > >versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about > >how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. > > no, no, no, ... he declared darkness a standard! > Gates was just touting darkness...until the Mi$uck version of light was ready to be released on an unsuspecting world. See, like when all the PC users complained about the Mac and the windowing interface...until Bill got his version of windows sufficiently pirated off of the Mac version... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Lines: 29 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: mensanator@aol.com (Mensanator) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: 22 Sep 2003 04:28:29 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151626 >Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? >From: Roland Hutchinson my.spamtrap@verizon.net >Date: 9/21/03 10:14 PM Central Daylight Time >Message-id: > >Charles Richmond wrote: > >> How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC >> lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi >> versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about >> how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. > >Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >end or the little end? You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to be a sub-thread on the merits of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. > >-- >Roland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. > >NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to >remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. -- Mensanator 2 of Clubs http://members.aol.com/mensanator666/2ofclubs/2ofclubs.htm ###### From: "Hank Oredson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Lines: 29 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 04:32:35 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.193.254 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1064205155 12.81.193.254 (Mon, 22 Sep 2003 04:32:35 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 04:32:35 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151629 "Roland Hutchinson" wrote in message news:bklped$370cq$1@ID-99522.news.uni-berlin.de... > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC > > lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi > > versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about > > how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. > > Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big > end or the little end? NO NO NO! One should use streams and not sockets! > -- > Roland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net ###### Message-ID: <3F6F26E3.670AA6FD@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1064242102 12.241.15.59 (Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:48:22 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:48:22 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:48:22 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!chi1.webusenet.com!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.204!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151594 Mensanator wrote: > > >Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? > >From: Roland Hutchinson my.spamtrap@verizon.net > >Date: 9/21/03 10:14 PM Central Daylight Time > >Message-id: > > > >Charles Richmond wrote: > > > >> How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC > >> lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi > >> versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about > >> how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. > > > >Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big > >end or the little end? > > You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to be a sub-thread > on the merits of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. > Actually, I was thinking about Arpanet Sockets and BSD Sockets... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Organization: Metropolis Grafix Reply-To: stanb45@dial.pipex.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.5.2 UNIX) Date: 22 Sep 2003 18:24:03 GMT Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62-241-191-152.dsl.pipex.com X-Trace: 1064255043 news.dial.pipex.com 246 62.241.191.152 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151600 On 22 Sep 2003 04:28:29 GMT, Mensanator wrote: >>Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? >> >>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>end or the little end? > >You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to be a sub-thread on the merits >of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. Edison Screw are rude words around here ATM - I spent *ages* walking round in the rain this morning trying to find a 40W screw bulb. They're not exactly common round here :-( -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com (Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.) The future was never like this! ###### From: Larry Elmore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030908 Debian/1.4-4 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.120.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc02 1064266965 12.237.120.43 (Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:42:45 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:42:45 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:42:49 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!140.99.99.194.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.204!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151596 Mensanator wrote: >>Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? >>From: Roland Hutchinson my.spamtrap@verizon.net >>Date: 9/21/03 10:14 PM Central Daylight Time >>Message-id: >> >>Charles Richmond wrote: >> >> >>>How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC >>>lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi >>>versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about >>>how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. >> >>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>end or the little end? > > > You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to be a sub-thread on the merits > of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. It beats a sub-thread on socket bayonets vs. plug bayonets... ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: Niklas Karlsson Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Darwin) Date: 22 Sep 2003 21:53:11 GMT Lines: 16 Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.69.19.230 X-Trace: 1064267591 lovejoy.zen.co.uk 11000 82.69.19.230 X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!zen.net.uk!lovejoy.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151624 In article <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid>, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? > A: Lucas makes refrigerators too. Judging from first-hand experience after living in Britain since March, I find it's in fact because the British have beer that's actually drinkable even if you don't render it so cold that the taste buds go numb. Niklas -- IMO, the primary historical significance of Unix is that it marks the time in computer history where CPUs became so cheap that it was possible to build an operating system without adult supervision. -- Russ Holsclaw in a.f.c ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 03 10:17:45 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <3F6F2731.5830FEC5@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVa4BEPacD2OZUv8pE8uSUfKkRXr4r7qmLvffAjbHamoCw2GYKxG13RG X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2003 11:28:59 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!diablo.voicenet.com!199.184.165.233.MISMATCH!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-236 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151677 In article <3F6F2731.5830FEC5@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article , >> "Hank Oredson" wrote: >> >Q: How many usenet posters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? >> >A: Two, but they have to be really small. >> > >> The light bulbs have to be really small? I don't get it. >> >If the two posters were screwing each other in a lightbulb... >obviously the posters would need to be small enough to *fit* >into the lightbulb... Oh. Thanks. :-) Dang. I always screw up these questions. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Lines: 9 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: bbreynolds@aol.comedxedl (Bruce B. Reynolds) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: 23 Sep 2003 00:29:04 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler (Queue Name: usenet_offline-m29) Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Message-ID: <20030922202904.23307.00003160@mb-m29.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151679 In article , "Don Chiasson" writes: >How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Light bulbs? This is a.f.c.: only discussions about arc lights are allowed. -- Bruce B. Reynolds, Trailing Edge Technologies, Glenside PA ###### From: "Helmut P. Einfalt" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:40:31 -0000 Organization: T-Online Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <20030922202904.23307.00003160@mb-m29.aol.com> Reply-To: "Helmut P. Einfalt" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1064291765 05 27100 RvoRVcnGSwABlC 030923 04:36:05 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@t-online.de X-ID: bctc-EZv8ejUHgiOQqoCef9B5qjsJAvwyqYDMM-LtPera3ctpPThoP X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151687 Bruce B. Reynolds wrote: > Light bulbs? This is a.f.c.: only discussions about arc lights are > allowed. Were there any lights on Arcnet? *g* Helmut -- All typos © My Knotty Fingers, Ltd. Capacity Dept. ###### From: jimmydevice Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:27:15 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20030922202904.23307.00003160@mb-m29.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 16 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151696 Helmut P. Einfalt wrote: > Bruce B. Reynolds wrote: > >>Light bulbs? This is a.f.c.: only discussions about arc lights are >>allowed. > > > Were there any lights on Arcnet? *g* > > Helmut > -- > All typos © My Knotty Fingers, Ltd. Capacity Dept. > Don't forget the PDP-8 lamp (lightbulb) replacement thread. Jim Davis. ( at least i'm on topic ) ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 22 Sep 03 16:26:46 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 21 Message-ID: <798.395T2312T9865245@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-445.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151681 In article anksil@yahoo.se (Niklas Karlsson) writes: >In article <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid>, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? >> A: Lucas makes refrigerators too. >Judging from first-hand experience after living in Britain since March, >I find it's in fact because the British have beer that's actually >drinkable even if you don't render it so cold that the taste buds go >numb. Actually, I agree with you, but the joke is too good to pass up. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 03 10:22:44 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ/4a8qVZgA7Rf/O5dOEHU2xBxE4FaX28DhY/OL4GBg7owJaIlz459u X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2003 11:33:58 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-236 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151673 In article , Joe Morris wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >>In article , >> Roland Hutchinson wrote: >>>Charles Richmond wrote: >>> >>>> How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC >>>> lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi >>>> versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about >>>> how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. >>> >>>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>>end or the little end? > >>Sigh! I need a socket? > >Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? I haven't heard that in a long time. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 03 10:24:30 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb4rHMaIIBbfxyQ0ynO9O7Lf2I0P5r9pY7APbGl2CR9NBLiDN0Xq1Q4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2003 11:35:43 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-236 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151676 In article , stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >On 22 Sep 2003 04:28:29 GMT, Mensanator wrote: >>>Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? >>> >>>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>>end or the little end? >> >>You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to >>be a sub-thread on the merits >>of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. > >Edison Screw are rude words around here ATM - I spent *ages* walking round >in the rain this morning trying to find a 40W screw bulb. I usually find my light bulbs inside a store. > .. They're not >exactly common round here :-( Fridge light burn out? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 03 11:30:33 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVanfFzqWHfr+NymEGdHxEkSmcpChroZeMlM2s658ihjv3d43L9l4NRD X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2003 12:41:46 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-236 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151670 In article , Joe Morris wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >> Joe Morris wrote: > >>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? > >> I haven't heard that in a long time. > >I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared ask. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: Joe Morris Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The MITRE Organization Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: newslocal.mitre.org 1064276227 13772 128.29.24.210 (23 Sep 2003 00:17:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:17:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!bigboote.WPI.EDU!news.tufts.edu!newstransit.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151685 mensanator@aol.com (Mensanator) writes: >>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>end or the little end? >You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to be a sub-thread on the merits >of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. ...vs. UNIX sockets. Joe Morris ###### From: Joe Morris Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The MITRE Organization Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: newslocal.mitre.org 1064276296 13772 128.29.24.210 (23 Sep 2003 00:18:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:18:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.tufts.edu!newstransit.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151686 jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >In article , > Roland Hutchinson wrote: >>Charles Richmond wrote: >> >>> How about the flame war over whether Pentium or Power PC >>> lightbulbs are the best??? The sixers and the eighters...vi >>> versus Emacs... And don't forget the obligatory posts about >>> how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. >> >>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>end or the little end? >Sigh! I need a socket? Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? Joe Morris ###### From: "Helmut P. Einfalt" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:38:32 -0000 Organization: T-Online Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> Reply-To: "Helmut P. Einfalt" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1064291646 07 27013 yroRVVmGSyAC0V 030923 04:34:06 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@t-online.de X-ID: Zd+a-iZOYe8aafFtFi0sTkaAvYd6Om3Gfsgp5wjbK8Fk4yW2CmDPrV X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151682 Niklas Karlsson wrote: > ... so cold that the taste buds go numb. Britain: The taste buds *go* numb America: The Bud's taste *is* numb... Helmut -- All typos © My Knotty Fingers, Ltd. Capacity Dept. ###### From: ab528@freenet.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:24:11 -0400 Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Lines: 23 Sender: ab528@freenet.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: p15.tc3.std.dialup.ncf.ca X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1064298389 1642 134.117.137.184 (23 Sep 2003 06:26:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2003 06:26:29 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Given-From: "Heinz Wiggeshoff" Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!cyclone.bc.net!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151688 "Dr. Theo A. Wiesengrund" wrote in message news:aaa-8F0C51.00252923092003@news.highway.telekom.at... > More Lucas jokes: (lower have of the page, but upper half is worth a > look too :-) > http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Humor_electrics.htm I think it's only fair that you add a warning to posts like this: Danger: extreme humour follows! Do not have any form of liquid in your mouth while viewing the post or page. This prevents damage to monitor screens and keyboards. > ... > Having owned a '67 MBG/GT I was Lucas victi... err customer myself. A school mate gave me a ride in one of those (you meant MGB). It was daylight, and the car ran flawlessly, but back in the 60's anything was possible. Didn't they eventully stuff a 6 banger into it? Sort of the Brit version of an American cockwagon. ###### From: Morten Reistad Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:58:20 +0200 Organization: me Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.71.197.12 X-Trace: services.kq.no 1064304928 12882 193.71.197.12 (23 Sep 2003 08:15:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eunet.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:15:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: mrr@via.reistad.priv.no (Morten Reistad) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!news.powertech.no!news.eunet.no!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151694 In article , Dr. Theo A. Wiesengrund wrote: >In article <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid>, > "Charlie Gibbs" commented: >> >>>>And don't forget the obligatory posts about >> >>>>how Bill Gates single-handedly invented light. >> >>> >> >>> no, no, no, ... he declared darkness a standard! >> >> >> >> I didn't know that he founded the Lucas company too >> > >> >Darkness is just light that leaks oil. >> >> Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? >> A: Lucas makes refrigerators too. > >More Lucas jokes: (lower have of the page, but upper half is worth a >look too :-) >http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Humor_electrics.htm > >For those fellow posters and lurkers who did not get the background >(most likely because they never have owned a british car - esp. of the >1960/70's). Lucas is the supplier for electric car equipment. For its >notorious reliability the company obtain the title "Lucas - Inventor of >Darkness" or "Prince of Darkness". I perfectly understand. My first car was an Austin Maxi 1974 model. It is the only car I have known that had a bilge, complete with oil leaks and surplus water. I was therefore also a Lucas vict^H^H^H^Howner. Parking the car at the top of long hills can get to be a habit. I haven't seen Lucas electrics for ages. >Having owned a '67 MBG/GT I was Lucas victi... err customer myself. >However, the only thing I really was concerned of, is that Lucas >manufactured also the british A-bombs. Though, I could not verify this, >because IE crashed, when I tried to investigate this on Lucas' website >(no joke!). If Lucas produce A-bombs then the commies and terrorists can sleep safely. -- mrr ###### From: Ingvar Mattsson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 23 Sep 2003 11:14:11 +0100 Organization: Frontier Internet Services Limited (Customer Usenet server) Lines: 28 Sender: ingvar@gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net Message-ID: <87u173ke18.fsf@gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net> References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: shale.ftech.net 1064312051 13982 212.32.17.6 (23 Sep 2003 10:14:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ftech.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:14:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!proxad.net!proxad.net!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!shale.ftech.net!news.ftech.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151700 Niklas Karlsson writes: > In article <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid>, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > > > Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? > > A: Lucas makes refrigerators too. > > Judging from first-hand experience after living in Britain since March, > I find it's in fact because the British have beer that's actually > drinkable even if you don't render it so cold that the taste buds go > numb. That is partly because ale is a working man's drink (traditionally speaking), so you'd work up until lunch, have something to eat and a pint or two, then continue to work. On really hot days, you'd also partake of a pint occasionally to cool down. Thus, the ale barrels would need to be at hand on the field and you can only do so much with evaporative cooling (ale barrel tapped and spiled, with a wet burlap over the top, at the side of the work area). This is also why ales tend to be slightly less alcoholic than your average Swedish shite lager. //Ingvar -- When the SysAdmin answers the phone politely, say "sorry", hang up and run awaaaaay! Informal advice to users at Karolinska Institutet, 1993-1994 ###### From: Sean Case Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Organization: Marginal References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Message-ID: Lines: 20 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:28:46 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.8.17.178 X-Complaints-To: news@pacific.net.au X-Trace: nasal.pacific.net.au 1064316532 61.8.17.178 (Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:28:52 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:28:52 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!news-out.superfeed.net!propagator2-maxim!feed-maxim.newsfeeds.com!newsfeed.pacific.net.au!nasal.pacific.net.au!gsc Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151697 In article , ab528@freenet.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: > "Dr. Theo A. Wiesengrund" wrote in message > news:aaa-8F0C51.00252923092003@news.highway.telekom.at... > > Having owned a '67 MBG/GT I was Lucas victi... err customer myself. > A school mate gave me a ride in one of those (you meant MGB). > It was daylight, and the car ran flawlessly, [...] According to legend, if you turned the lights on in the daytime, there would be a pool of darkness in front of the car... Sean Case -- Sean Case gsc@zip.com.au Code is an illusion. Only assertions are real. ###### From: Joe Morris Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The MITRE Organization Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: newslocal.mitre.org 1064319840 8938 128.29.24.210 (23 Sep 2003 12:24:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:24:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!enews.sgi.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.tufts.edu!newstransit.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151683 jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > Joe Morris wrote: >>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? > I haven't heard that in a long time. I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. Joe Morris ###### From: "Hank Oredson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <3F6F2731.5830FEC5@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Lines: 33 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:26:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.202.119 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1064345185 12.81.202.119 (Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:26:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:26:25 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151722 wrote in message news:bkpapr$pe6$2@bob.news.rcn.net... > In article <3F6F2731.5830FEC5@comcast.net>, > Charles Richmond wrote: > >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> In article > , > >> "Hank Oredson" wrote: > >> >Q: How many usenet posters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? > >> >A: Two, but they have to be really small. > >> > > >> The light bulbs have to be really small? I don't get it. > >> > >If the two posters were screwing each other in a lightbulb... > >obviously the posters would need to be small enough to *fit* > >into the lightbulb... > > Oh. Thanks. :-) > > Dang. I always screw up these questions. Or for the UKians, "... bayonet up ..." ;-) -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net ###### From: "Helmut P. Einfalt" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:44:24 -0000 Organization: T-Online Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> Reply-To: "Helmut P. Einfalt" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1064335201 01 17266 FxyRVy1ESsaaDN 030923 16:40:01 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@t-online.de X-ID: GFfZCZZroeIigNsWIg1Semmt2EJtKZIL7nbuRvp05DOxOujiuTWZgm X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151723 Morten Reistad wrote: > If Lucas produce A-bombs then the commies and terrorists can sleep > safely. You mean it was Lucas who provided Saddam with the Dangerous Weapons Of Mass Destruction [TM]? Helmut -- All typos © My Knotty Fingers, Ltd. Capacity Dept. ###### From: stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Organization: Metropolis Grafix Reply-To: stanb45@dial.pipex.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.5.2 UNIX) Date: 23 Sep 2003 18:29:16 GMT Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62-241-190-1.dsl.pipex.com X-Trace: 1064341756 news.dial.pipex.com 249 62.241.190.1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151715 On Tue, 23 Sep 03 10:24:30 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article , > stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >> >>Edison Screw are rude words around here ATM - I spent *ages* walking round >>in the rain this morning trying to find a 40W screw bulb. > >I usually find my light bulbs inside a store. > So do I, but finding a store round here that stocks screw bulbs proved a frustrating and wet exercise :-) >> .. They're not >>exactly common round here :-( > >Fridge light burn out? No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating desk in the radio shack. The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com (Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.) The future was never like this! ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: Niklas Karlsson Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Darwin) Date: 23 Sep 2003 18:44:22 GMT Lines: 23 Organization: Zen Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.69.19.230 X-Trace: 1064342662 lovejoy.zen.co.uk 10968 82.69.19.230 X-Complaints-To: abuse@zen.co.uk Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!lovejoy.zen.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151716 In article , Stan Barr wrote: > > So do I, but finding a store round here that stocks screw bulbs proved > a frustrating and wet exercise :-) > >>> .. They're not >>>exactly common round here :-( >> >>Fridge light burn out? > > No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating desk in the radio shack. > The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) Interesting. There are more screw-socket lamps than bayonet ones in my (London) household... my desk lamp is bayonet, but the rest are all screw. Niklas -- IMO, the primary historical significance of Unix is that it marks the time in computer history where CPUs became so cheap that it was possible to build an operating system without adult supervision. -- Russ Holsclaw in a.f.c ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 31 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:36:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1064345764 24.71.223.147 (Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:36:04 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:36:04 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151728 On 23 Sep 2003 18:29:16 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >On Tue, 23 Sep 03 10:24:30 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>In article , >> stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >>> >>>Edison Screw are rude words around here ATM - I spent *ages* walking round >>>in the rain this morning trying to find a 40W screw bulb. >> >>I usually find my light bulbs inside a store. >> > >So do I, but finding a store round here that stocks screw bulbs proved >a frustrating and wet exercise :-) > >>> .. They're not >>>exactly common round here :-( >> >>Fridge light burn out? > >No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating desk in the radio shack. >The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) Might as well keep an eye out for a bayonet socket for the gooseneck, while you're lamping around in the rain, eh? Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 27 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:39:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1064345998 24.71.223.147 (Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:39:58 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:39:58 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.frii.net!newsfeed.frii.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!propagator2-maxim!feed-maxim.newsfeeds.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151731 On Tue, 23 Sep 03 11:30:33 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article , > Joe Morris wrote: >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >> >>> Joe Morris wrote: >> >>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >> >>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >> >>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. > >Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >"bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >ask. R&M's Laugh-In slogan -- popular in all English speaking countries where it was shown (UK BBC2 ~1965-70). Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:59:35 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Message-ID: <20030923215935.11effabc.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3F6F2731.5830FEC5@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 12 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2003 01:01:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0104.nas1-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1064365278 willi.euronet.nl 34875 62.234.208.104:2252 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151753 On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:26:25 GMT "Hank Oredson" wrote: HO> Or for the UKians, "... bayonet up ..." ;-) Oh boy we're back in Warmington on Sea again. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: Keith R. Williams Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:56:13 -0400 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <3F6F2731.5830FEC5@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-436.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151757 In article , horedson@att.net says... > > wrote in message news:bkpapr$pe6$2@bob.news.rcn.net... > > In article <3F6F2731.5830FEC5@comcast.net>, > > Charles Richmond wrote: > > >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > >> > > >> In article > > , > > >> "Hank Oredson" wrote: > > >> >Q: How many usenet posters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? > > >> >A: Two, but they have to be really small. > > >> > > > >> The light bulbs have to be really small? I don't get it. > > >> > > >If the two posters were screwing each other in a lightbulb... > > >obviously the posters would need to be small enough to *fit* > > >into the lightbulb... > > > > Oh. Thanks. :-) > > > > Dang. I always screw up these questions. > > > Or for the UKians, "... bayonet up ..." ;-) ...often in ceiling fixtures, yes. Certainly I have many screws up! -- Keith ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 23 Sep 03 16:37:37 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <599.396T1867T9975028@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-209.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.news2me.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151749 In article mrr@reistad.priv.n0 (Morten Reistad) writes: >I was therefore also a Lucas vict^H^H^H^Howner. Parking the car >at the top of long hills can get to be a habit. I once knew a fellow who had an Austin Cambridge. He called it his "Rolls Canardly" (rolls down hills, can 'ardly make it up the other side). -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 03 09:15:14 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVauWGAdjDAKsiH4ByEROQjl2sf3ieIeBAY17y4aJPJguxxlSRbh3CLY X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2003 10:26:38 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-58 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151743 In article , stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >On Tue, 23 Sep 03 10:24:30 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>In article , >> stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >>> >>>Edison Screw are rude words around here ATM - I spent *ages* walking round >>>in the rain this morning trying to find a 40W screw bulb. >> >>I usually find my light bulbs inside a store. >> > >So do I, but finding a store round here that stocks screw bulbs proved >a frustrating and wet exercise :-) You know...even small stores have their inventories in bits these days....It shouldn't be much work to webbit so that people could really shop on-line before traveling to the store that has the part you need. Are people doing this? > >>> .. They're not >>>exactly common round here :-( >> >>Fridge light burn out? > >No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating >desk in the radio shack. >The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't think of the word. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 03 10:00:43 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <3F71963C.77B6869E@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbj1zBbVnPDDQnn+kPaYmeazKtic6WvK1DWBFiBRARNuZzNqmpN43Bp X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2003 11:12:06 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-58 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151739 In article <3F71963C.77B6869E@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] >> >> AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys >> were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. >> So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type >> a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't >> think of the word. >> >Do you mean that the bayonets wiggle because they are loose >in their sockets??? Yup. Thanks :-) I don't seem to be able to think very well with this cold. I keep picturing light bulbs with two bayonets. That's a bad assumption. Three would prevent wiggle room. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:48:22 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20030923214822.215fdf8e.steveo@eircom.net> References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2003 01:01:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0104.nas1-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1064365277 willi.euronet.nl 34875 62.234.208.104:2252 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151752 On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:36:04 GMT Brian Inglis wrote: BI> Might as well keep an eye out for a bayonet socket for the BI> gooseneck, while you're lamping around in the rain, eh? I'm sure he'll spot one if he has a good gander about. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: "Rupert Pigott" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:56:49 +0100 Organization: Titanic Enterprises Unlimited Lines: 33 Message-ID: <1064350609.918268@saucer.planet.gong> References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: darkboong.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1064350610 14721 80.177.7.220 (23 Sep 2003 20:56:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:56:50 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Priority: 3 X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cache-Post-Path: saucer.planet.gong!unknown@192.168.69.33 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151745 "Heinz W. Wiggeshoff" wrote in message news:bkop2l$1ja$1@freenet9.carleton.ca... > > "Dr. Theo A. Wiesengrund" wrote in message > news:aaa-8F0C51.00252923092003@news.highway.telekom.at... > > More Lucas jokes: (lower have of the page, but upper half is worth a > > look too :-) > > http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Humor_electrics.htm > > I think it's only fair that you add a warning to posts like > this: > > Danger: extreme humour follows! Do not have any form > of liquid in your mouth while viewing the post or page. > This prevents damage to monitor screens and keyboards. > > > ... > > Having owned a '67 MBG/GT I was Lucas victi... err customer myself. > > A school mate gave me a ride in one of those (you meant MGB). > It was daylight, and the car ran flawlessly, but back in the 60's > anything was possible. Didn't they eventully stuff a 6 banger into > it? Sort of the Brit version of an American cockwagon. They also stuck V8s into them. There's a few around in this small town. I haven't seen the BMW M1 for a while though, that thing sounded vicious. :) Cheers, Rupert ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 51 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net 1064356190 12.240.77.188 (Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:50 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:50 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151765 Approximately 9/22/03 23:24, Heinz W. Wiggeshoff uttered for posterity: > "Dr. Theo A. Wiesengrund" wrote in message > news:aaa-8F0C51.00252923092003@news.highway.telekom.at... >> More Lucas jokes: (lower have of the page, but upper half is worth a >> look too :-) >> http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Humor_electrics.htm > > I think it's only fair that you add a warning to posts like > this: > > Danger: extreme humour follows! Do not have any form > of liquid in your mouth while viewing the post or page. > This prevents damage to monitor screens and keyboards. >> > ... >> Having owned a '67 MBG/GT I was Lucas victi... err customer myself. > > A school mate gave me a ride in one of those (you meant MGB). > It was daylight, and the car ran flawlessly, but back in the 60's > anything was possible. Didn't they eventully stuff a 6 banger into > it? Sort of the Brit version of an American cockwagon. > MG screwed up the Healey engine by siamesing the cylinders if memory serves and created a bastardized 3 liter 6 banger and called it the MG-C and MG-C GT. Not even in the same ballpark as an emasculated Healey 3000 MK II for perf. Bought a brand shiny new 1966 MGB. Left front headlight failed in less than two blocks off the dealer lot. The factory battery lasted about 2 months and had those quaint little british humor style screwed on connectors. [A die hard lasted longer than my patience with the car]. The voltage regulator made it to the first oil change. The starter to the 3rd or 4th if memory serves. Then one night about 0200 whilst driving down the "crowded" highway that connects Moab Utah to Green River, a small pebble managed to short out some truly heavy wires running right behind the front grille with no other protection from abrasion other than sorta being behind the grille. At a speed in excess of 70 mph, the instrument lights went out. Followed within milliseconds by the headlights and tail lights. Luckily there was no one on the road and there was a bright moon. Lacking a gun, I did not immediately put the little piece of !#@$$ out of its misery immediately. Proving that some folks never learn, also later owned a TR Spitfire and a TR-4 and almost bought a Jag 3.8S. ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Message-ID: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1064359230 12.240.77.188 (Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:20:30 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:20:30 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:20:30 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151738 Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: > In article , > Joe Morris wrote: >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >> >>> Joe Morris wrote: >> >>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >> >>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >> >>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. > > Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the > "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they > weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared > ask. > Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. ###### From: Keith R. Williams Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:54:52 -0400 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-384.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151761 In article <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54>, Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... > Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: > > > In article , > > Joe Morris wrote: > >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >> > >>> Joe Morris wrote: > >> > >>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? > >> > >>> I haven't heard that in a long time. > >> > >>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. > > > > Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the > > "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they > > weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared > > ask. > > > Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". -- Keith ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 32 Message-ID: <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1064370619 12.240.77.188 (Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:30:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:30:19 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:30:19 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151735 Approximately 9/23/03 18:54, Keith R. Williams uttered for posterity: > In article <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54>, > Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... >> Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: >> >> > In article , >> > Joe Morris wrote: >> >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >> >> >> >>> Joe Morris wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >> >> >> >>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >> >> >> >>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. >> > >> > Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >> > "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >> > weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >> > ask. >> > >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. > > I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". > Is the motto on the 'merkin $3.00 bill, right under his picture. ###### From: Jim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 03:33:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.87.163.102 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1064374388 12.87.163.102 (Wed, 24 Sep 2003 03:33:08 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 03:33:08 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151746 Joe Morris wrote: > mensanator@aol.com (Mensanator) writes: > > >>>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>>end or the little end? > > >>You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to be a sub-thread on the merits >>of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. > > > ...vs. UNIX sockets. > > Joe Morris For more light would you use a socketpair? Jim ###### From: ab528@freenet.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:43:27 -0400 Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Lines: 10 Sender: ab528@freenet.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Message-ID: References: <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> <599.396T1867T9975028@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: p34.tc3.std.dialup.ncf.ca X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1064382345 17853 134.117.137.203 (24 Sep 2003 05:45:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2003 05:45:45 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Given-From: "Heinz Wiggeshoff" Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151751 "Charlie Gibbs" wrote in message news:599.396T1867T9975028@kltpzyxm.invalid... > I once knew a fellow who had an Austin Cambridge. He called it > his "Rolls Canardly" (rolls down hills, can 'ardly make it up > the other side). That's why reverse is geared so low. ###### Message-ID: <3F71963C.77B6869E@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc02 1064401682 12.241.15.59 (Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:08:02 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:08:02 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:08:02 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!63.218.45.11.MISMATCH!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!216.166.71.118.MISMATCH!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151734 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys > were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. > So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type > a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't > think of the word. > Do you mean that the bayonets wiggle because they are loose in their sockets??? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Keith R. Williams Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:03:59 -0400 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-656.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151754 In article <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04>, Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... > Approximately 9/23/03 18:54, Keith R. Williams uttered for posterity: > > > In article <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54>, > > Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... > >> Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: > >> > >> > In article , > >> > Joe Morris wrote: > >> >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >> >> > >> >>> Joe Morris wrote: > >> >> > >> >>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? > >> >> > >> >>> I haven't heard that in a long time. > >> >> > >> >>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. > >> > > >> > Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the > >> > "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they > >> > weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared > >> > ask. > >> > > >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. > > > > I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". > > > Is the motto on the 'merkin $3.00 bill, right under his > picture. Hmm, the one I have has the motto: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman...". The portrait doesn't look much like TDN either. -- Keith ###### From: shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 24 Sep 2003 07:11:54 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.121.15.35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1064412724 7893 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2003 14:12:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2003 14:12:04 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151756 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote in message news:... > AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys > were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. > So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. No, what you're probably talking about on a fluorescent is a bi-pin... two metal contacts sticking out of the end? > Isn't the screw-type > a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't > think of the word. The bayonet is sort-of like a quarter-turn locking thread. The socket has a J-shaped slot on its side, and a very short pin sticking out of the bulb's base locks into that slot with the help of a spring in the base. The result is much more immune to vibration and thermal expansion/contraction than a screw base. Most automotive bulbs are bayonet base for this reason. For bulbs that have strict filament placement requirements or multi-contact bases, bayonets also guarantee orientation (possibly modulo 180 degrees). Tim. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 10:59:50 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <3f71cd70.88846595@news.eircom.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbCTVdykxzxIQ4EO1ZsvZg92XKItBUQ4cGdWVw6GWQ+TraBSFL5tUHD X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 12:11:25 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151789 In article <3f71cd70.88846595@news.eircom.net>, wallacethinmintr@eircom.net (Russell Wallace) wrote: >On Sat, 20 Sep 03 13:32:59 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>This is an incomplete list. There was no thread drift notice >>about campfires, halon to put out runaway bulbs, and not a >>scrap of food on site. > >You forgot the 50-message subthread using cars as an analogy, Reverting to cars is a guy thing ;-). > .. and >deducing the owner was irrational for not buying a light with >automatic rather than manual changing. Oh, no. In this newsgroup? The only way a light bulb could be changed is if the engine has to pulled. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Message-ID: <3F720CA2.85E4F3DB@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? References: <3f71cd70.88846595@news.eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1064431992 12.241.15.59 (Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:33:12 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:33:12 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:33:12 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151776 Russell Wallace wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Sep 03 13:32:59 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > >This is an incomplete list. There was no thread drift notice > >about campfires, halon to put out runaway bulbs, and not a > >scrap of food on site. > > You forgot the 50-message subthread using cars as an analogy, and > deducing the owner was irrational for not buying a light with > automatic rather than manual changing. > You are forgettin the automated voice in Japanese that says "The light bulb is burned out..." -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 24 Sep 03 18:49:08 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 53 Message-ID: <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-714.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151817 In article jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) writes: >In article , >stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: > >>So do I, but finding a store round here that stocks screw bulbs proved >>a frustrating and wet exercise :-) > >You know...even small stores have their inventories in bits these >days....It shouldn't be much work to webbit so that people could >really shop on-line before traveling to the store that has the >part you need. Are people doing this? I doubt it. They wouldn't be able to lie to customers. Scenario 1 (forced upgrade): "No, we don't have that in stock, but we have this other part that costs just a _tiny_ bit more." Scenario 2 (bait and switch): "Yes, come on down and we'll fix you up (with an item that we really keep only one unit in stock, which we won't be able to find when you get here)." Scenario 3 (get them to the store and put on the pressure): "Yes, we have one. While you're here, why not stock up on ? To make that available online, they'd have to maintain a second set of books. Too much work (and eventually too risky). To wander a bit off topic, the thing I'd like to see put on a web server is images from those dozens of cameras I see on busy highway interchanges. Imagine, up-to-the-minute traffic reports on your home computer, with minimal maintenance required. >>The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are >>bayonet...) > >AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys >were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. >So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type >a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't >think of the word. Think of the taillight lamps in your car. Or, if you're a hardware type, BNC connectors (but that's probably a guy thing). -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 24 Sep 03 18:52:20 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 21 Message-ID: <872.397T1028T11324257@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-715.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsfeed.sjc.globix.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151818 In article shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) writes: >For bulbs that have strict filament placement requirements or >multi-contact bases, bayonets also guarantee orientation (possibly >modulo 180 degrees). Even that can be handled by staggering the pins. The most common automobile taillamp, the 1157, puts the pins at different depths to ensure that you don't insert it the wrong way round and swap the taillight and brake light filaments. Another way, I suppose, would be to not place the pins exactly 180 degrees apart. I haven't seen an example of this, though. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 11:06:12 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYlzW8AguA4PRIJ0TnE/226dXUGEt9C9cqpiV7vYCF8CRJm2QsQ3nSd X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 12:17:47 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151799 In article , Keith R. Williams wrote: >In article <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04>, Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net >says... >> Approximately 9/23/03 18:54, Keith R. Williams uttered for posterity: >> >> > In article <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54>, >> > Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... >> >> Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: >> >> >> >> > In article , >> >> > Joe Morris wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Joe Morris wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >> >> >> >> >> >>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. >> >> > >> >> > Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >> >> > "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >> >> > weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >> >> > ask. >> >> > >> >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. >> > >> > I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". >> > >> Is the motto on the 'merkin $3.00 bill, right under his >> picture. > >Hmm, the one I have has the motto: "I did not have sexual relations >with that woman...". The portrait doesn't look much like TDN either. But he didn't have relations with the woman he was pointing at when he said that line. I can't recall her name; she was the gal who had covered the White House for decades. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 11:09:39 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaQzXFErAPt6z34c0XyEoAoduWhNqZaHF/TIk9IluIuPEkKx1V4HiX9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 12:21:14 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151804 In article , Lon Stowell wrote: >Approximately 9/24/03 15:31, Joe Morris uttered for posterity: > >> Lon Stowell writes: >>>Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: >>>> Joe Morris wrote: >>>>>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >>>>>> Joe Morris wrote: >> >>>>>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >> >>>>>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >> >>>>>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. >> >>>> Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >>>> "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >>>> weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >>>> ask. >> >>> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. >> >> Um...no. Nixon was a guest celeberty on one of the _Laugh-In_ >> shows while he was running for President, but his recitation of >> the "Sock it to **ME**???" line merely echoed what had long since >> become a running joke in the show. >> > Sorry, neglected the keywords. What is the local fine > for fishing without a license? Don't pub owners go fishing when they get shut down? I sure would. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 12:12:15 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbgrBfUw31heYfnMo6VZpBxc9+m04wYC2ycpGRnaNJ4xaAaM/gfEC3c X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:50 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151793 In article , shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) wrote: 'ey, Tim! Got your lights back yet? >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote in message news:... >> AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys >> were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. >> So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. > >No, what you're probably talking about on a fluorescent is a bi-pin... >two metal contacts sticking out of the end? Each end. Yup. That's what I'm talking about. > >> Isn't the screw-type >> a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't >> think of the word. > >The bayonet is sort-of like a quarter-turn locking thread. The socket >has a J-shaped slot on its side, and a very short pin sticking out of >the bulb's base locks into that slot with the help of a spring in the base. >The result is much more immune to vibration and thermal expansion/contraction >than a screw base. Most automotive bulbs are bayonet base for this reason. > >For bulbs that have strict filament placement requirements or >multi-contact bases, bayonets also guarantee orientation (possibly modulo 180 >degrees). > Now I think I know what you're all talking about. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 12:15:32 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZNkxwGISQGqwGBLqL2sn7LVzlzLqdTq3qXCgPCo9ZPBOQt9ZkrL5pc X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:27:06 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151805 In article , stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >On Wed, 24 Sep 03 09:15:14 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>In article , >> stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >>>No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating >>>desk in the radio shack. >>>The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) >> >>AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys >>were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. >>So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type >>a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't >>think of the word. > >A bayonet bulb has 2 little pins projecting sideways from the base that fit >shaped slots in the holder. The contacts in the base are spring loaded >and push the bulb out so that the bayonet pins are pushed up in dead-end >of the slot that prevents the bulb falling out. It is named after the >method devised by the French for attaching a blade to the muzzle of a musket, >so you weren't far out in what you thought. It's usually true that the naming has something to do with function history. The computer biz is going to have a hard time tracking naming reasons during the 90s and the oughts. > >Up here screw bulbs are regarded as quaint old-fashioned things that >you see in old black-and-white American movies :-) My house is lit with quaint? :-) /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 12:25:33 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 73 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYduF2/zpWqJNSI7Db4aPypEiFe+BoB65wfw6dU7I7AUq2K9LjOL3tP X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:37:08 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151792 In article <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid>, "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: >In article jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) >writes: > >>In article , >>stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >> >>>So do I, but finding a store round here that stocks screw bulbs proved >>>a frustrating and wet exercise :-) >> >>You know...even small stores have their inventories in bits these >>days....It shouldn't be much work to webbit so that people could >>really shop on-line before traveling to the store that has the >>part you need. Are people doing this? > >I doubt it. They wouldn't be able to lie to customers. > >Scenario 1 (forced upgrade): "No, we don't have that in stock, >but we have this other part that costs just a _tiny_ bit more." > >Scenario 2 (bait and switch): "Yes, come on down and we'll fix >you up (with an item that we really keep only one unit in stock, >which we won't be able to find when you get here)." > >Scenario 3 (get them to the store and put on the pressure): >"Yes, we have one. While you're here, why not stock up on >? > >To make that available online, they'd have to maintain a second >set of books. Too much work (and eventually too risky). Wow! Charlie. You can find a worker in the stores in your area? Count your blessings. hmmm...I wonder if this is a duck situation? > >To wander a bit off topic, the thing I'd like to see put on a >web server is images from those dozens of cameras I see on busy >highway interchanges. Imagine, up-to-the-minute traffic reports >on your home computer, with minimal maintenance required. Isn't that the way those itenerary (sorry, I can't seem to spell today) programs work? > >>>The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are >>>bayonet...) >> >>AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys >>were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. >>So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type >>a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't >>think of the word. > >Think of the taillight lamps in your car. I haven't had to change one of those in 30 years. > .. Or, if you're a hardware >type, BNC connectors (but that's probably a guy thing). Not quite. But now I've got a different picture of the connector design. Aren't those BNC thinies the ones that have slots on the thing you're screwing in. And the screwing mehcanism is on the outside rather than the inside as our light bulbs have? [emoticon gets up and tries to find one.... I know I've one; I just can't find it.] /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 12:30:41 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaok6U71LG+30tjyc5cJDXtzYDLisc+fq6Jmp+5f34ee78//qe2j1BY X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:42:15 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151809 In article , Keith R. Williams wrote: >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com says... >> In article , >> Keith R. Williams wrote: >> >In article <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04>, Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net >> >says... >> >> Approximately 9/23/03 18:54, Keith R. Williams uttered for posterity: >> >> >> >> > In article <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54>, >> >> > Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... >> >> >> Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article , >> >> >> > Joe Morris wrote: >> >> >> >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Joe Morris wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >> >> >> > "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >> >> >> > weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >> >> >> > ask. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. >> >> > >> >> > I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". >> >> > >> >> Is the motto on the 'merkin $3.00 bill, right under his >> >> picture. >> > >> >Hmm, the one I have has the motto: "I did not have sexual relations >> >with that woman...". The portrait doesn't look much like TDN either. >> >> But he didn't have relations with the woman he was pointing at >> when he said that line. I can't recall her name; she was the >> gal who had covered the White House for decades. > >Helen Thomas? Yup. Her. > .. I should hope not! Sputter... Why? Think of the interesting pillow talk. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 12:33:46 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> <3f72ed49.247089721@News.CIS.DFN.DE> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ0r1q8r4EXfgfylnZYWO1JKuorp23MEUOffT3n5x7/xaFc+F/v7bLv X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:45:20 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151808 In article <3f72ed49.247089721@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, iddw@hotmail.com (Dave Hansen) wrote: >On Thu, 25 Sep 03 11:06:12 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >[...] >>But he didn't have relations with the woman he was pointing at >>when he said that line. I can't recall her name; she was the >>gal who had covered the White House for decades. > >Helen Thomas? Wasn't it her that he was pointing at? This sneaky way of his pronouncment even got into the news. Don't you remember it? Technically, he was not lying if you included his pointer finger in the declaration. Lawyers are trained to do this kind of language olympics. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 13:04:00 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbJW9mkaYFNTvV/QsIQJZ5Vgco3WGyoDRSEogsLhW6kyPMkfB7k//ft X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 14:15:34 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151800 In article , anksil@yahoo.se (Niklas Karlsson) wrote: >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>In article , >>stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >>> >>> [bayonet-socket light bulbs] >>> It is named after the method devised by the French for attaching a >>> blade to the muzzle of a musket, so you weren't far out in what you >>> thought. >> >> It's usually true that the naming has something to do with function >> history. The computer biz is going to have a hard time tracking naming >> reasons during the 90s and the oughts. > >Surely you mean "the naughties"? :-) The eighties was when the naughties got busy. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 03 13:04:47 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbSN6p/kl9kaw2cR9L0pphQIMlNeStYzgmPbMiGG46AmlwEH3iGfdnY X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Sep 2003 14:16:20 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-182-253 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151806 In article , Keith R. Williams wrote: >In article , jcmorris@mitre.org >says... >> Keith R. Williams writes: >> >> >Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... >> >> >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. >> >> >I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". >> >> Say goodnight, Keith. > >Goodnight, Keith. You screwed it up. No capital G. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Organization: Metropolis Grafix Reply-To: stanb45@dial.pipex.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.5.2 UNIX) Date: 24 Sep 2003 19:21:14 GMT Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62-241-189-105.dsl.pipex.com X-Trace: 1064431274 news.dial.pipex.com 255 62.241.189.105 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!195.129.110.21.MISMATCH!bnewsfeed00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!bnewsinpeer01.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151786 On Wed, 24 Sep 03 09:15:14 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article , > stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >>No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating >>desk in the radio shack. >>The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) > >AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys >were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. >So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type >a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't >think of the word. A bayonet bulb has 2 little pins projecting sideways from the base that fit shaped slots in the holder. The contacts in the base are spring loaded and push the bulb out so that the bayonet pins are pushed up in dead-end of the slot that prevents the bulb falling out. It is named after the method devised by the French for attaching a blade to the muzzle of a musket, so you weren't far out in what you thought. Up here screw bulbs are regarded as quaint old-fashioned things that you see in old black-and-white American movies :-) -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com (Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.) The future was never like this! ###### Message-ID: <3F720C6A.85EAB11F@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1064431936 12.241.15.59 (Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:32:16 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:32:16 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:32:16 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151775 Stan Barr wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > Up here screw bulbs are regarded as quaint old-fashioned things that > you see in old black-and-white American movies :-) > But in the U.S. of 'merika...screw bulbs are *standard*. You will *not* find a bayonet bulb in most places that sell light bulbs here. Of course, you are right that most automotive bulbs are bayonet because of the vibration of the car... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: brian_huntley@hotmail.com (Brian Huntley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 24 Sep 2003 12:45:04 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: <2072304b.0309241145.7e0ef7c6@posting.google.com> References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.205.240.226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1064432704 32600 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2003 19:45:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2003 19:45:04 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151836 Niklas Karlsson wrote in message news:... > In article , Stan Barr wrote: > > No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating desk in the radio shack. > > The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) > > Interesting. There are more screw-socket lamps than bayonet ones in my > (London) household... my desk lamp is bayonet, but the rest are all > screw. You and Stan ought to swap lamps! ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:14:40 -0500 From: "Jack Peacock" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <3F720C6A.85EAB11F@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:14:39 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.57.2.36 X-Trace: sv3-dAa/C+3KAB2QbD8qQ0JchjNtS5B4AmQPTcI2BOVzmnFCtu+ttYZixgn/12Z9VXG8c0yfJsetuHSHBiz!p+pA1cQhIhw94UxPv3OYDcmL1n4TsYNnFybJ5+RIBUN36ado9eBgYq7pU3n65b3VfsXqSZhnuvqV!Ww== X-Complaints-To: abuse@mpowercom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@mpowercom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.mpowercom.net!news.mpowercom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151834 "Charles Richmond" wrote in message news:3F720C6A.85EAB11F@comcast.net... > But in the U.S. of 'merika...screw bulbs are *standard*. You > will *not* find a bayonet bulb in most places that sell light > bulbs here. Of course, you are right that most automotive bulbs > are bayonet because of the vibration of the car... > Outside of California and (until recently) the nuclear test site in Nevada it is not commonplace for there to be enough vibration in buildings to justify changing to bayonet bulbs. Casino signs in Nevada have always used screw bases for incandescent bulbs and they did weather the occasional seismic groundwave from 150kt nuclear devices without failing (and the amplification effect when a hundred or more feet in the air is substantial, enough that work on outdoor signs had to be suspended when a shot was in progress). I can't recall any vibration failures, incandescent or neon, on the signs I programmed. Indoor casino signs did use bayonet bulbs on occasion, I believe it was called "Tivoli" lighting. Given the relatively low light levels inside LEDs often replaced incandescent in gaming signage and did not use sockets. Now that there are blue and white LEDs I wonder how much demand there is for small incandescent bulbs anymore, except in highly cost sensitive applications. Jack Peacock Doing my part to contribute to thread drift ###### From: Joe Morris Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The MITRE Organization Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: newslocal.mitre.org 1064442718 29459 128.29.24.210 (24 Sep 2003 22:31:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:31:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!priapus.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!ash.uu.net!news.tufts.edu!newstransit.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151823 Lon Stowell writes: >Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: >> Joe Morris wrote: >>>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >>>> Joe Morris wrote: >>>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >>>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >>>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. >> Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >> "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >> weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >> ask. > Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. Um...no. Nixon was a guest celeberty on one of the _Laugh-In_ shows while he was running for President, but his recitation of the "Sock it to **ME**???" line merely echoed what had long since become a running joke in the show. Joe Morris ###### From: Joe Morris Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The MITRE Organization Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: newslocal.mitre.org 1064442799 29459 128.29.24.210 (24 Sep 2003 22:33:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:33:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!feedme.news.mediaways.net!telefonica.de!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!cyclone.bc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!bigboote.WPI.EDU!news.tufts.edu!newstransit.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151822 Keith R. Williams writes: >Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. >I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". Say goodnight, Keith. Joe Morris ###### From: Joe Morris Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The MITRE Organization Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: newslocal.mitre.org 1064442849 29459 128.29.24.210 (24 Sep 2003 22:34:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:34:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.tu-darmstadt.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.tufts.edu!newstransit.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151820 Jim writes: >Joe Morris wrote: >> mensanator@aol.com (Mensanator) writes: >>>>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>>>end or the little end? >>>You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to be a sub-thread on >>>the merits of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. >> ...vs. UNIX sockets. >For more light would you use a socketpair? Only for AC. Joe Morris ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc02 1064443543 12.240.77.188 (Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:45:43 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:45:43 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:45:43 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151779 Approximately 9/23/03 20:33, Jim uttered for posterity: > Joe Morris wrote: >> mensanator@aol.com (Mensanator) writes: >> >> >>>>Should the lightbulb be fitted to the socket at the big >>>>end or the little end? >> >> >>>You had to mention sockets. Now there's going to be a sub-thread on the merits >>>of Edison vs. bayonet sockets. >> >> >> ...vs. UNIX sockets. >> >> Joe Morris > For more light would you use a socketpair? Only for full duplex... ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1064443622 12.240.77.188 (Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:47:02 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:47:02 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:47:02 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151778 Approximately 9/24/03 15:31, Joe Morris uttered for posterity: > Lon Stowell writes: >>Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: >>> Joe Morris wrote: >>>>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >>>>> Joe Morris wrote: > >>>>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? > >>>>> I haven't heard that in a long time. > >>>>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. > >>> Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >>> "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >>> weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >>> ask. > >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. > > Um...no. Nixon was a guest celeberty on one of the _Laugh-In_ > shows while he was running for President, but his recitation of > the "Sock it to **ME**???" line merely echoed what had long since > become a running joke in the show. > Sorry, neglected the keywords. What is the local fine for fishing without a license? ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 41 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 05:48:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1064468910 24.71.223.147 (Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:48:30 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:48:30 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151835 On 24 Sep 03 18:49:08 -0800 in alt.folklore.computers, "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: >In article jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) >writes: > >>In article , >>stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >> >>>So do I, but finding a store round here that stocks screw bulbs proved >>>a frustrating and wet exercise :-) >> >>You know...even small stores have their inventories in bits these >>days....It shouldn't be much work to webbit so that people could >>really shop on-line before traveling to the store that has the >>part you need. Are people doing this? In some brain dead ways! The Canadian monopoly bookstore Chapters.Indigo.ca offers this on its in-store public intranet system only, not on the extranet. I've got two stores within 10 minutes drive and another two about a half hour drive away. But I've got to visit my local store to find out if any of them have a book in stock -- usual answer: no. I then have to drive back home to order it from Amazon.ca, who often have new tech books about 30% cheaper than Chapters / Indigo offer online or in store (close to par CAD/USD). Much better deal than the Chapters / Indigo "membership" discount of 10%, for which I pay $15 p.a. If I want to order online from Chapters / Indigo, and the order is not above the free shipping threshold cost, I can save the cost of shipping by ordering on the in-store public intranet system, and I don't mind filling out the order with my credit card number on the in-store public intranet system. But if I order from my system at home, I have to pay the shipping cost! Duh!!! Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### Message-ID: <3F729EE2.65BB1DC5@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <3F720C6A.85EAB11F@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net 1064469431 12.241.15.59 (Thu, 25 Sep 2003 05:57:11 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 05:57:11 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 05:57:11 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151777 Jack Peacock wrote: > > "Charles Richmond" wrote in message > news:3F720C6A.85EAB11F@comcast.net... > > But in the U.S. of 'merika...screw bulbs are *standard*. You > > will *not* find a bayonet bulb in most places that sell light > > bulbs here. Of course, you are right that most automotive bulbs > > are bayonet because of the vibration of the car... > > > Outside of California and (until recently) the nuclear test site in Nevada > it is not commonplace for there to be enough vibration in buildings to > justify changing to bayonet bulbs. Casino signs in Nevada have always used > screw bases for incandescent bulbs and they did weather the occasional > seismic groundwave from 150kt nuclear devices without failing (and the > amplification effect when a hundred or more feet in the air is substantial, > enough that work on outdoor signs had to be suspended when a shot was in > progress). I can't recall any vibration failures, incandescent or neon, on > the signs I programmed. > That is what *I* need to do...get a job programming the casino signs in Lost Wages, Nevada. ISTM that this is one job that will *not* be out-sourced to programmers in India. It also sounds like a lot of fun...but may become tedious to do on a daily basis. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: anksil@yahoo.se (Niklas Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 25 Sep 2003 09:09:24 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2072304b.0309241145.7e0ef7c6@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sweet-brew-2.cisco.com (144.254.15.126) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1064480964 6242252 144.254.15.126 (16 [100736]) X-Orig-Path: anksil User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!sweet-brew-2.cisco.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151767 In article <2072304b.0309241145.7e0ef7c6@posting.google.com>, Brian Huntley wrote: >Niklas Karlsson wrote in message news:... >> In article , Stan Barr wrote: > >> > No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating desk in the radio shack. >> > The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) >> >> Interesting. There are more screw-socket lamps than bayonet ones in my >> (London) household... my desk lamp is bayonet, but the rest are all >> screw. > >You and Stan ought to swap lamps! Interesting idea. Stan, are you interested? :-) Niklas -- "IMO, the primary historical significance of Unix is that it marks the time in computer history where CPUs became so cheap that it was possible to build an operating system without adult supervision." -- Russ Holsclaw in a.f.c ###### From: Keith R. Williams Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:33:02 -0400 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <20030920170654.6470ff3c.steveo@eircom.net> <3F6D3281.18C12BBE@comcast.net> <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-041.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151846 In article , jcmorris@mitre.org says... > Keith R. Williams writes: > > >Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... > > >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. > > >I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". > > Say goodnight, Keith. Goodnight, Keith. -- Keith ###### From: Keith R. Williams Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:41:53 -0400 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-293.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151843 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com says... > In article , > Keith R. Williams wrote: > >In article <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04>, Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net > >says... > >> Approximately 9/23/03 18:54, Keith R. Williams uttered for posterity: > >> > >> > In article <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54>, > >> > Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... > >> >> Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: > >> >> > >> >> > In article , > >> >> > Joe Morris wrote: > >> >> >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Joe Morris wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> I haven't heard that in a long time. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. > >> >> > > >> >> > Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the > >> >> > "bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they > >> >> > weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared > >> >> > ask. > >> >> > > >> >> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. > >> > > >> > I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". > >> > > >> Is the motto on the 'merkin $3.00 bill, right under his > >> picture. > > > >Hmm, the one I have has the motto: "I did not have sexual relations > >with that woman...". The portrait doesn't look much like TDN either. > > But he didn't have relations with the woman he was pointing at > when he said that line. I can't recall her name; she was the > gal who had covered the White House for decades. Helen Thomas? I should hope not! Sputter... -- Keith ###### From: anksil@yahoo.se (Niklas Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:37:09 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sweet-brew-2.cisco.com (144.254.15.126) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1064497029 6588636 144.254.15.126 (16 [100736]) X-Orig-Path: anksil User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!sweet-brew-2.cisco.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151769 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article , >stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >> >> [bayonet-socket light bulbs] >> It is named after the method devised by the French for attaching a >> blade to the muzzle of a musket, so you weren't far out in what you >> thought. > > It's usually true that the naming has something to do with function > history. The computer biz is going to have a hard time tracking naming > reasons during the 90s and the oughts. Surely you mean "the naughties"? :-) Niklas -- "IMO, the primary historical significance of Unix is that it marks the time in computer history where CPUs became so cheap that it was possible to build an operating system without adult supervision." -- Russ Holsclaw in a.f.c ###### From: Keith R. Williams Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:07:24 -0400 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-467.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151841 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com says... > In article <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid>, > "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: > >In article jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) > >writes: > > > >>In article , > >>stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: > >> > >>>So do I, but finding a store round here that stocks screw bulbs proved > >>>a frustrating and wet exercise :-) > >> > >>You know...even small stores have their inventories in bits these > >>days....It shouldn't be much work to webbit so that people could > >>really shop on-line before traveling to the store that has the > >>part you need. Are people doing this? > > > >I doubt it. They wouldn't be able to lie to customers. > > > >Scenario 1 (forced upgrade): "No, we don't have that in stock, > >but we have this other part that costs just a _tiny_ bit more." > > > >Scenario 2 (bait and switch): "Yes, come on down and we'll fix > >you up (with an item that we really keep only one unit in stock, > >which we won't be able to find when you get here)." > > > >Scenario 3 (get them to the store and put on the pressure): > >"Yes, we have one. While you're here, why not stock up on > >? > > > >To make that available online, they'd have to maintain a second > >set of books. Too much work (and eventually too risky). > > Wow! Charlie. You can find a worker in the stores in your area? > Count your blessings. hmmm...I wonder if this is a duck situation? > > > > > >To wander a bit off topic, the thing I'd like to see put on a > >web server is images from those dozens of cameras I see on busy > >highway interchanges. Imagine, up-to-the-minute traffic reports > >on your home computer, with minimal maintenance required. > > Isn't that the way those itenerary (sorry, I can't seem > to spell today) programs work? > > > > >>>The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are > >>>bayonet...) > >> > >>AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys > >>were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. > >>So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type > >>a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't > >>think of the word. > > > >Think of the taillight lamps in your car. > > I haven't had to change one of those in 30 years. > > > .. Or, if you're a hardware > >type, BNC connectors (but that's probably a guy thing). > > Not quite. But now I've got a different picture of > the connector design. Aren't those BNC thinies the ones that > have slots on the thing you're screwing in. And the screwing > mehcanism is on the outside rather than the inside as our > light bulbs have? [emoticon gets up and tries to find one.... > I know I've one; I just can't find it.] BNC is sorta backwards of the lightbulb. This isn't the best picture of a bayonet base lamp, but: http://www.abclights.com/lightbulbc7dc1.html -- Keith ###### Message-ID: <3F732824.2A1E7726@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1064504570 12.241.15.59 (Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:42:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:42:50 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:42:50 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151772 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: > > > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > > > Up here screw bulbs are regarded as quaint old-fashioned things that > > you see in old black-and-white American movies :-) > > My house is lit with quaint? :-) > Perhaps you are living in an old-fashioned black-and-white American movie. ;-) And listening to the AM radio (with your stove unplugged). Most American households are lighted with screw-in light bulbs, with a "right hand" screw on them. ISTM that in Japan, most screws have a "left hand" spiral to them...no??? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: Mikko Nahkola Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> Reply-To: mnahkola@trein.ntc.nokia.com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 28 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:09:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.22.104.137 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@nokia.com X-Trace: news2.nokia.com 1064509745 172.22.104.137 (Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:09:05 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:09:05 EET DST Organization: Nokia Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!nntp.inet.fi!inet.fi!newsfeed1.nokia.com!news1.nokia.com!news2.nokia.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151782 In article <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid>, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > In article jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) > writes: >>>The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are >>>bayonet...) >>AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys >>were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. >>So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type >>a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't >>think of the word. Well, some of the old long gun designs were as a rule more accurate (at least produced tighter groupings) with the bayonets attached - and that's with slow-burning powder. That might speak about the stability... > Think of the taillight lamps in your car. Or, if you're a hardware > type, BNC connectors (but that's probably a guy thing). Well, duh. Isn't this "BNC" an acronym for "Bayonet Nut Coupling"? That's what I was told anyway. -- Mikko Nahkola #include #Not speaking for my employer. No warranty. YMMV. ###### From: stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> Organization: Metropolis Grafix Reply-To: stanb45@dial.pipex.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.5.2 UNIX) Date: 25 Sep 2003 17:30:39 GMT Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62-241-189-130.dsl.pipex.com X-Trace: 1064511039 news.dial.pipex.com 273 62.241.189.130 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151787 On 24 Sep 03 18:49:08 -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >To wander a bit off topic, the thing I'd like to see put on a >web server is images from those dozens of cameras I see on busy >highway interchanges. Imagine, up-to-the-minute traffic reports >on your home computer, with minimal maintenance required. There are quite a few of those over here in the UK, for example: http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/webcams/traffic.shtml -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com (Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.) The future was never like this! ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: Mikko Nahkola Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> Reply-To: mnahkola@trein.ntc.nokia.com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 34 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:52:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.22.104.137 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@nokia.com X-Trace: news1.nokia.com 1064512324 172.22.104.137 (Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:52:04 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:52:04 EET DST Organization: Nokia Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!surfnet.nl!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!nntp.inet.fi!inet.fi!newsfeed1.nokia.com!news1.nokia.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151781 Keith R Williams wrote: > In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com says... >> "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: >> > .. Or, if you're a hardware >> >type, BNC connectors (but that's probably a guy thing). >> Not quite. But now I've got a different picture of >> the connector design. Aren't those BNC thinies the ones that >> have slots on the thing you're screwing in. And the screwing >> mehcanism is on the outside rather than the inside as our >> light bulbs have? [emoticon gets up and tries to find one.... >> I know I've one; I just can't find it.] They're around both ways, it's just more common to have the inner part attached to the larger or stabler object. In the original case, if you wanted to shoot the thing you had better to attach the pointy thing to the outside of the barrel. > BNC is sorta backwards of the lightbulb. This isn't the best picture > of a bayonet base lamp, but: > http://www.abclights.com/lightbulbc7dc1.html I wonder... the 2-pin configuration is by far the most common nowadays, but how common are the others? Great-grand-uncle's old musket only has a single pin, and I remember using at least 3, 4 and 5 pin versions on assorted military electronics ... not sure but there might have been a 6-pin variant as well. -- Mikko Nahkola #include #Not speaking for my employer. No warranty. YMMV. ###### From: stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2072304b.0309241145.7e0ef7c6@posting.google.com> Organization: Metropolis Grafix Reply-To: stanb45@dial.pipex.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.5.2 UNIX) Date: 25 Sep 2003 20:00:10 GMT Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62-241-190-95.dsl.pipex.com X-Trace: 1064520010 news.dial.pipex.com 258 62.241.190.95 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151851 On 25 Sep 2003 09:09:24 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote: >In article <2072304b.0309241145.7e0ef7c6@posting.google.com>, Brian Huntley >wrote: >>Niklas Karlsson wrote in message news:... >>> In article , Stan Barr wrote: >> >>> > No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating desk in the radio shack. >>> > The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) >>> >>> Interesting. There are more screw-socket lamps than bayonet ones in my >>> (London) household... my desk lamp is bayonet, but the rest are all >>> screw. >> >>You and Stan ought to swap lamps! > >Interesting idea. Stan, are you interested? :-) Nah...sorted my problem now :-) -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com (Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.) The future was never like this! ###### From: wallacethinmintr@eircom.net (Russell Wallace) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb? Message-ID: <3f739e7e.99654857@news.eircom.net> References: <3f71cd70.88846595@news.eircom.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 13 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:04:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 159.134.105.170 X-Complaints-To: abuse@eircom.net X-Trace: news.indigo.ie 1064541908 159.134.105.170 (Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:05:08 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:05:08 BST Organization: Eircom.Net http://www.eircom.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.indigo.ie!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151886 On Thu, 25 Sep 03 10:59:50 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >Oh, no. In this newsgroup? The only way a light bulb could >be changed is if the engine has to pulled. Good point; this newsgroup tends to be refreshingly different at least :) -- "Sore wa himitsu desu." To reply by email, remove the small snack from address. http://www.esatclear.ie/~rwallace ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Fri, 26 Sep 03 10:26:48 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2072304b.0309241145.7e0ef7c6@posting.google.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYxcpX+MTS6JVCU357rj3/+f73eAsW1P6u9RXi/94HNu97SNFMwTR+K X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Sep 2003 11:38:33 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-177 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151878 In article , stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >On 25 Sep 2003 09:09:24 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote: >>In article <2072304b.0309241145.7e0ef7c6@posting.google.com>, Brian Huntley >>wrote: >>>Niklas Karlsson wrote in message news:... >>>> In article , Stan Barr wrote: >>> >>>> > No, the flexible lamp that shines onto the operating desk in the radio shack. >>>> > The only screw lamp in the house! (UK bulbs, of course, are bayonet...) >>>> >>>> Interesting. There are more screw-socket lamps than bayonet ones in my >>>> (London) household... my desk lamp is bayonet, but the rest are all >>>> screw. >>> >>>You and Stan ought to swap lamps! >> >>Interesting idea. Stan, are you interested? :-) > >Nah...sorted my problem now :-) Bulble sort? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Fri, 26 Sep 03 11:10:58 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <3F732824.2A1E7726@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYzD3FkzL9tlRXzfcjoZFaZBmT+qpRNWRZPSSkAqyH2BzYx8hEQNhWw X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Sep 2003 12:22:42 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-177 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151875 In article <3F732824.2A1E7726@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article , >> stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) wrote: >> > >> > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] >> > >> > Up here screw bulbs are regarded as quaint old-fashioned things that >> > you see in old black-and-white American movies :-) >> >> My house is lit with quaint? :-) >> >Perhaps you are living in an old-fashioned black-and-white >American movie. ;-) I hope not; I've no patience left for screen idols. > .. And listening to the AM radio (with >your stove unplugged). Most American households are lighted >with screw-in light bulbs, with a "right hand" screw on them. >ISTM that in Japan, most screws have a "left hand" spiral to >them...no??? Why do screws turn to the right. I never did get proficient with the right-hand rule to determine which way is up. I always thought that guys had an embedded device because they seemed to do this automatically. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Don Chiasson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> <876.398T1076T8774321@kltpzyxm.invalid> Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Lines: 32 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:09:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.157.42.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1064534957 24.157.42.82 (Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:09:17 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:09:17 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!cyclone01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151889 "Charlie Gibbs" wrote in message news:876.398T1076T8774321@kltpzyxm.invalid... > In article > mnahkola@trein.ntc.nokia.com (Mikko Nahkola) writes: > > >In article <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid>, Charlie Gibbs > >wrote: > > > >> Think of the taillight lamps in your car. Or, if you're a hardware > >> type, BNC connectors (but that's probably a guy thing). > > > >Well, duh. Isn't this "BNC" an acronym for "Bayonet Nut Coupling"? > >That's what I was told anyway. > > I'm not sure about the other two initials, but the B is definitely > "bayonet". I've seen something called TNC, which is basically the > same connector except that it's threaded instead of a bayonet fitting. > I thought the connector was the product of the Berkeley Nucleonics Corporation, the company that invented the connector. BNC is still in business http://www.berkeleynucleonics.com/ making precision electronic equipment. ++Don e-mail: it's not not, it's hot. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: <6f88nvk31eho5nornsrg9tp3t4dgdfp33k@4ax.com> References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 42 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:28:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1064575735 24.71.223.147 (Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:28:55 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:28:55 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151915 On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:52:04 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, Mikko Nahkola wrote: >Keith R Williams wrote: >> In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com says... >>> "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: > >>> > .. Or, if you're a hardware >>> >type, BNC connectors (but that's probably a guy thing). > >>> Not quite. But now I've got a different picture of >>> the connector design. Aren't those BNC thinies the ones that >>> have slots on the thing you're screwing in. And the screwing >>> mehcanism is on the outside rather than the inside as our >>> light bulbs have? [emoticon gets up and tries to find one.... >>> I know I've one; I just can't find it.] > >They're around both ways, it's just more common to have the inner part >attached to the larger or stabler object. In the original case, if you >wanted to shoot the thing you had better to attach the pointy thing to >the outside of the barrel. > >> BNC is sorta backwards of the lightbulb. This isn't the best picture >> of a bayonet base lamp, but: >> http://www.abclights.com/lightbulbc7dc1.html > >I wonder... the 2-pin configuration is by far the most common nowadays, >but how common are the others? Great-grand-uncle's old musket only has a >single pin, and I remember using at least 3, 4 and 5 pin versions on >assorted military electronics ... not sure but there might have been a >6-pin variant as well. The military attached bayonets to electronics as well as muskets? ;^> Suspect the different pin counts were an anti-SNAFU device for multiple external cable connections between a set of boxes. Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### From: Joe Morris Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The MITRE Organization Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> <876.398T1076T8774321@kltpzyxm.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: newslocal.mitre.org 1064579870 15172 128.29.24.210 (26 Sep 2003 12:37:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:37:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newstransit.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151895 "Charlie Gibbs" writes: >I'm not sure about the other two initials, but the B is definitely >"bayonet". I've seen something called TNC, which is basically the >same connector except that it's threaded instead of a bayonet fitting. And for a genuine old-computing link, the Wang word processing termials (unfortunately popular around 1980) used a double coax connection from the display to the central controller. Accidental swapping of the connections was prevented by using a BNC on one cable and a TNC on the other. Joe Morris ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: Mikko Nahkola Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> <6f88nvk31eho5nornsrg9tp3t4dgdfp33k@4ax.com> Reply-To: mnahkola@trein.ntc.nokia.com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 31 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:09:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.22.104.137 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@nokia.com X-Trace: news2.nokia.com 1064581751 172.22.104.137 (Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:09:11 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:09:11 EET DST Organization: Nokia Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!nntp.inet.fi!inet.fi!newsfeed1.nokia.com!news1.nokia.com!news2.nokia.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151871 In article <6f88nvk31eho5nornsrg9tp3t4dgdfp33k@4ax.com>, Brian Inglis wrote: > wrote: >>I wonder... the 2-pin configuration is by far the most common nowadays, >>but how common are the others? Great-grand-uncle's old musket only has a >>single pin, and I remember using at least 3, 4 and 5 pin versions on >>assorted military electronics ... not sure but there might have been a >>6-pin variant as well. > > The military attached bayonets to electronics as well as muskets? > ;^> Just stick it into the ground, it works just fine as a grounding spike. (a bit more complicated for that purpose than strictly necessary, but ... better to do that and get the signal through) The current model bayonet hasn't been designed to fit the connectors all that well though, and is a bit short - the old musket bayonet would be preferable for that job. > Suspect the different pin counts were an anti-SNAFU device for > multiple external cable connections between a set of boxes. Well, yes, but still ... some of these were big enough that there just might have been some actual strength benefit too. -- Mikko Nahkola #include #Not speaking for my employer. No warranty. YMMV. ###### Message-ID: <3F7448DC.C8C155DD@yahoo.com> From: CBFalconer Reply-To: cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net Organization: Ched Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <3F732824.2A1E7726@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:37:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.90.177.86 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1064587041 12.90.177.86 (Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:37:21 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:37:21 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151859 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > Charles Richmond wrote: > ... snip ... > > > .. And listening to the AM radio (with > >your stove unplugged). Most American households are lighted > >with screw-in light bulbs, with a "right hand" screw on them. > >ISTM that in Japan, most screws have a "left hand" spiral to > >them...no??? > > Why do screws turn to the right. They don't always. Left hand threads are used where appropriate. E.G. things where normal operation could loosen them, and cause wheels to fall off. Also some railway and subway light bulbs, designed to thwart thieves. Systems where turning one item will expand/compress the total length. -- Chuck F (cbfalconer@yahoo.com) (cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. USE worldnet address! ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Sat, 27 Sep 03 10:50:37 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZK6pmUTrcKsEonawZJEnE8oQiR76ER6BHuQcLlegXr/mx1vpcdbIoq X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Sep 2003 12:02:33 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-65 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151959 In article , Lon Stowell wrote: >Approximately 9/26/03 16:36, Larry Elmore uttered for posterity: >>> But he didn't have relations with the woman he was pointing at >>> when he said that line. I can't recall her name; she was the >>> gal who had covered the White House for decades. >> >> Helen Thomas? Eww. I do believe even Clinton wouldn't touch her. >> > Ahhh, but would he give her a cigar? Nope. The guy liked them young, very young. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <823.395T2601T6785634@kltpzyxm.invalid> <87u173ke18.fsf@gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1064609190 50392 146.186.61.46 (26 Sep 2003 20:46:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:46:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151963 In article <87u173ke18.fsf@gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net>, Ingvar Mattsson wrote: >Niklas Karlsson writes: >> > Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? >> > A: Lucas makes refrigerators too. >> Judging from first-hand experience after living in Britain since March, >> I find it's in fact because the British have beer that's actually >> drinkable even if you don't render it so cold that the taste buds go >> numb. >That is partly because ale is a working man's drink (traditionally >speaking), so you'd work up until lunch, have something to eat and a >pint or two, then continue to work. On really hot days, you'd also >partake of a pint occasionally to cool down. Thus, the ale barrels >would need to be at hand on the field and you can only do so much with >evaporative cooling (ale barrel tapped and spiled, with a wet burlap >over the top, at the side of the work area). Most of the "warm beer" matter can be attributed to the significant difference temperature between British & U.S. domiciles. Then add the fact that ales are better served warmer (~50F) than lagers (~40F) and that flavor-deficient beers (Bud, etc.) get served much below that (~34) in part to numb the taste buds, and in part because they don't *have* the aromatic oils that need 40F and 50F to leave solution and make the beer smell right. hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1064609589 50394 146.186.61.46 (26 Sep 2003 20:53:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:53:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151970 In article , Heinz W. Wiggeshoff wrote: > >"Sean Case" wrote in message >news:gsc-4DE612.21284623092003@nasal.pacific.net.au... >> According to legend, if you turned the lights on in the daytime, >> there would be a pool of darkness in front of the car... > Thirty-some years ago, when I was immortal and thus > a motorcyclist in the Honda 500-Four camp, the > favourite joke was "Why do British motorcycle > salesmen wear black topped running shoes, > (aka sneakers)? So they can quickly step under > the motor to catch the oil drips." > Isn't someone trying to get BSA going again? Meanwhile, Indian closed down again this week. > And since this is a.f.c, there were NO computers [*] > on my 71 or 73 Honda. How many cars can claim > that today? My 2003 van can claim the same thing (or could if it could speak . . .) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <3F71963C.77B6869E@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1064609930 50394 146.186.61.46 (26 Sep 2003 20:58:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:58:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151966 In article , wrote: >In article <3F71963C.77B6869E@comcast.net>, > Charles Richmond wrote: >>jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>> AHA!!!! Now I'm getting the refs to bayonet. I thought you guys >>> were talking about guns with knives sticking out the end. >>> So bayonet is like my flurescent(sp?) bulb. Isn't the screw-type >>> a better interface? A bayonet could tittle..tottle..now I can't >>> think of the word. >>Do you mean that the bayonets wiggle because they are loose >>in their sockets??? >Yup. Thanks :-) I don't seem to be able to think very well >with this cold. >I keep picturing light bulbs with two bayonets. That's a bad >assumption. Three would prevent wiggle room. Just don't get them from France. They'll spend the whole war charging german light bulbs with machine guns :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <3F720C6A.85EAB11F@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1064610138 50394 146.186.61.46 (26 Sep 2003 21:02:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:02:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151969 In article , Jack Peacock wrote: >"Charles Richmond" wrote in message >news:3F720C6A.85EAB11F@comcast.net... >> But in the U.S. of 'merika...screw bulbs are *standard*. You >> will *not* find a bayonet bulb in most places that sell light >> bulbs here. Of course, you are right that most automotive bulbs >> are bayonet because of the vibration of the car... >Outside of California and (until recently) the nuclear test site in Nevada >it is not commonplace for there to be enough vibration in buildings to >justify changing to bayonet bulbs. Casino signs in Nevada have always used >screw bases for incandescent bulbs and they did weather the occasional >seismic groundwave from 150kt nuclear devices without failing (and the >amplification effect when a hundred or more feet in the air is substantial, >enough that work on outdoor signs had to be suspended when a shot was in >progress). I was on about the 12th floor, in a conference not all that long after fleeing california. "I didn't know we had earthquakes here." (Not that they bothered me; I was quite used to days where the ground just moved areound for a few seconds.) "We do," said the other attorney, who then checked his watch. "But that was an underground test." hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3F732824.2A1E7726@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1064610258 50394 146.186.61.46 (26 Sep 2003 21:04:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:04:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151968 In article <3F732824.2A1E7726@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> > Up here screw bulbs are regarded as quaint old-fashioned things that >> > you see in old black-and-white American movies :-) >> My house is lit with quaint? :-) >Perhaps you are living in an old-fashioned black-and-white >American movie. ;-) Nah, she's in Taxachuesetts, not Kansas. :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: Larry Elmore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030908 Debian/1.4-4 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 54 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.120.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1064619361 12.237.120.43 (Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:36:01 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:36:01 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:36:01 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!borium.box.nl!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151948 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > In article , > Keith R. Williams wrote: > >>In article <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04>, Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net >>says... >> >>>Approximately 9/23/03 18:54, Keith R. Williams uttered for posterity: >>> >>> >>>>In article <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54>, >>>>Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... >>>> >>>>>Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In article , >>>>>> Joe Morris wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joe Morris wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. >>>>>> >>>>>>Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >>>>>>"bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >>>>>>weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >>>>>>ask. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. >>>> >>>>I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". >>>> >>> >>> Is the motto on the 'merkin $3.00 bill, right under his >>> picture. >> >>Hmm, the one I have has the motto: "I did not have sexual relations >>with that woman...". The portrait doesn't look much like TDN either. > > > But he didn't have relations with the woman he was pointing at > when he said that line. I can't recall her name; she was the > gal who had covered the White House for decades. Helen Thomas? Eww. I do believe even Clinton wouldn't touch her. ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 58 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1064620086 12.240.77.188 (Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:48:06 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:48:06 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:48:06 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151951 Approximately 9/26/03 16:36, Larry Elmore uttered for posterity: > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> In article , >> Keith R. Williams wrote: >> >>>In article <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04>, Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net >>>says... >>> >>>>Approximately 9/23/03 18:54, Keith R. Williams uttered for posterity: >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54>, >>>>>Lawn.Stowell@Komkast.net says... >>>>> >>>>>>Approximately 9/23/03 04:30, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>In article , >>>>>>> Joe Morris wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Joe Morris wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Barbara, are you saying "Socket to me"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I haven't heard that in a long time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I haven't had such a good opportunity to use it in a long time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Is this an 'Murrican saying or did it spread? I liked the >>>>>>>"bet your bippie" one. If I used it among my elders, they >>>>>>>weren't quite sure that I was talking dirty and never dared >>>>>>>ask. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Coined by then presidential candidate Tricky Dicky Nixon. >>>>> >>>>>I never heard R&M say "I am not a crook". >>>>> >>>> >>>> Is the motto on the 'merkin $3.00 bill, right under his >>>> picture. >>> >>>Hmm, the one I have has the motto: "I did not have sexual relations >>>with that woman...". The portrait doesn't look much like TDN either. >> >> >> But he didn't have relations with the woman he was pointing at >> when he said that line. I can't recall her name; she was the >> gal who had covered the White House for decades. > > Helen Thomas? Eww. I do believe even Clinton wouldn't touch her. > Ahhh, but would he give her a cigar? ###### From: David Powell Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:04:31 +0100 Organization: Nextra UK Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid> <876.398T1076T8774321@kltpzyxm.invalid> Reply-To: ddotpowell@icuknet.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.25.153.194.dial.cix.gxn.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: thorium.cix.co.uk 1064624663 10095 194.153.25.99 (27 Sep 2003 01:04:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@net.nextra.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 01:04:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peernews.cix.co.uk!news.nextra.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152031 In article <876.398T1076T8774321@kltpzyxm.invalid>, "Charlie Gibbs" in alt.folklore.computers wrote: >In article >mnahkola@trein.ntc.nokia.com (Mikko Nahkola) writes: > >>In article <2157.397T401T11293650@kltpzyxm.invalid>, Charlie Gibbs >>wrote: >> >>> Think of the taillight lamps in your car. Or, if you're a hardware >>> type, BNC connectors (but that's probably a guy thing). >> >>Well, duh. Isn't this "BNC" an acronym for "Bayonet Nut Coupling"? >>That's what I was told anyway. > >I'm not sure about the other two initials, but the B is definitely >"bayonet". I've seen something called TNC, which is basically the >same connector except that it's threaded instead of a bayonet fitting. I've always known them as Bayonet Nut Coupler, Threaded Nut Coupler. When I was building radio kit, I preferred the TNC, If the manufacturer has to thread one end, he might as well thread the other, so it was single hole mounting. BNC were usually hot brass stampings, square base, four bolt holes. I could usually get three out of four correct, and file out the other. Regards, David P. ###### From: stanb45@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: Organization: Metropolis Grafix Reply-To: stanb45@dial.pipex.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.5.2 UNIX) Date: 27 Sep 2003 07:57:43 GMT Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62-241-191-64.dsl.pipex.com X-Trace: 1064649463 news.dial.pipex.com 8765 62.241.191.64 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151957 On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:53:09 +0000 (UTC), Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > >Meanwhile, Indian closed down again this week. > What really killed Indian off the first time was being owned by an engineering firm not far from me, on Merseyside. Incompetent British management! -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com (Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.) The future was never like this! ###### From: Trog Woolley Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: trog-oz.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1064652376 20888 194.222.21.247 (27 Sep 2003 08:46:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:46:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.3 (Linux) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152004 While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu typed: > >> Isn't someone trying to get BSA going again? A bit of the old BSA factory is still there. I think they make spanners there now. It's the other side of the city so I don't get over there much. There is quite a lot of motorbike archeology around Birmingham. Some of the old Triumph factory as Meriden is still there, although the buidings are used for other purposes. > > Meanwhile, Indian closed down again this week. > Did this have any connection with Indian of old, or did someone just revive the name? -- Trog Woolley | trog at trogwoolley dot com (A Croweater back residing in Pommie Land with Linux) Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inanna ###### Message-ID: <3F75EB28.C1CCFA55@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1064685568 12.241.15.59 (Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:59:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:59:28 GMT Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:59:28 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:151943 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > Lon Stowell wrote: > >Approximately 9/26/03 16:36, Larry Elmore uttered for posterity: > > > >>> But he didn't have relations with the woman he was pointing at > >>> when he said that line. I can't recall her name; she was the > >>> gal who had covered the White House for decades. > >> > >> Helen Thomas? Eww. I do believe even Clinton wouldn't touch her. > >> > > Ahhh, but would he give her a cigar? > > Nope. The guy liked them young, very young. > I have to admit...Clinton had *zero* good taste in women. After all, JFK was "friendly" with Marilyn Monroe... surely *no* one would compare Monica with Marilyn in any *good* way. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: greymaus@yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 28 Sep 2003 11:03:05 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> <3F75EB28.C1CCFA55@comcast.net> <6oldb.166021$mp.90746@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p254-86.as1.nas.naas.eircom.net (159.134.254.86) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1064746985 9111523 159.134.254.86 (16 [132592]) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Linux) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!p254-86.as1.nas.naas.eircom.NET!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152048 On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:18:26 GMT, Lon Stowell wrote: >>> >>> Nope. The guy liked them young, very young. >>> >> I have to admit...Clinton had *zero* good taste in women. >> After all, JFK was "friendly" with Marilyn Monroe... >> surely *no* one would compare Monica with Marilyn in any >> *good* way. Marilyn, as well as being a very good actress, reportably was VERY hard to live with (constant nervous rows), whereas Monica looked easy-going... Consider Prince Charles of UKOGBANI, who ditched the beautiful princess, for the ugly sister, who was easier to live with. -- greymaus as in, Mau'ddib or Al Firan RumaiDin ###### Message-ID: <3F776ADC.4988EADB@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> <3F75EB28.C1CCFA55@comcast.net> <6oldb.166021$mp.90746@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1064783796 12.241.15.59 (Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:16:36 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:16:36 GMT Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:16:36 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152130 greymaus@yahoo.com wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:18:26 GMT, Lon Stowell wrote: > >>> > >>> Nope. The guy liked them young, very young. > >>> > >> I have to admit...Clinton had *zero* good taste in women. > >> After all, JFK was "friendly" with Marilyn Monroe... > >> surely *no* one would compare Monica with Marilyn in any > >> *good* way. > > Marilyn, as well as being a very good actress, reportably was VERY > hard to live with (constant nervous rows), whereas Monica looked > easy-going... Consider Prince Charles of UKOGBANI, who ditched the > beautiful princess, for the ugly sister, who was easier to live with. > Diana would have been okay, if Chuck had *not* been screwing around on her. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> <3F75EB28.C1CCFA55@comcast.net> <6oldb.166021$mp.90746@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Message-ID: <%nIdb.364299$2x.112285@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1064784507 12.240.77.188 (Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:28:27 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:28:27 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:28:27 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152138 Approximately 9/28/03 04:03, greymaus@yahoo.com uttered for posterity: > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:18:26 GMT, Lon Stowell wrote: >>>> >>>> Nope. The guy liked them young, very young. >>>> >>> I have to admit...Clinton had *zero* good taste in women. >>> After all, JFK was "friendly" with Marilyn Monroe... >>> surely *no* one would compare Monica with Marilyn in any >>> *good* way. > > > Marilyn, as well as being a very good actress, reportably was VERY > hard to live with (constant nervous rows), whereas Monica looked > easy-going... Consider Prince Charles of UKOGBANI, who ditched the > beautiful princess, for the ugly sister, who was easier to live with. I don't believe any of the aforementioned poonhounds cared to live with for periods longer than a nominal 2-3 minutes. As for arguments, for Clinton those would have either been impossible or very very painful. ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1064851152 58958 146.186.61.46 (29 Sep 2003 15:59:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:59:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152186 In article , Trog Woolley wrote: >While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway >hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu typed: >>> Isn't someone trying to get BSA going again? >A bit of the old BSA factory is still there. >I think they make spanners there now. It's the >other side of the city so I don't get over there >much. There is quite a lot of motorbike >archeology around Birmingham. Some of the old >Triumph factory as Meriden is still there, >although the buidings are used for other purposes. >> Meanwhile, Indian closed down again this week. >Did this have any connection with Indian of old, >or did someone just revive the name? They got rights to the name (possibly from disuse), but I think they tried to design in keeping with the old Indian. hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:32:54 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> References: <2z4cb.418333$Oz4.208562@rwcrnsc54> <%k7cb.565003$uu5.92509@sccrnsc04> <3F75EB28.C1CCFA55@comcast.net> <6oldb.166021$mp.90746@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> <3F776ADC.4988EADB@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Sep 2003 17:37:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0641.nas3-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1064857030 flip.euronet.nl 435 62.234.218.133:2462 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!surfnet.nl!amsnews01.chello.com!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152212 On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:16:36 GMT Charles Richmond wrote: CR> Diana would have been okay, if Chuck had *not* been screwing CR> around on her. I recall one commentary on their wedding that went "He's a hippy. She's a sloane. I give it six months". -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 30 Sep 03 11:51:16 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYFxInMSQzdC7P77idPD/KD6FoZXI2wqs1+VCZa/XT2OpOIK+MMIyV9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 2003 13:03:40 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-90 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152306 In article <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:16:36 GMT >Charles Richmond wrote: > >CR> Diana would have been okay, if Chuck had *not* been screwing >CR> around on her. > > I recall one commentary on their wedding that went "He's a hippy. >She's a sloane. I give it six months". What's a sloane? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 30 Sep 03 11:55:34 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <20030922002829.20786.00001444@mb-m21.aol.com> <3F732824.2A1E7726@comcast.net> <3f787f48.21278429@News.CIS.DFN.DE> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZa9f7EyS7aU/gf6TYBdYUCFQv2uS7pedBzL37QSEFnqVuqK6rQ7Rna X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 2003 13:07:59 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-90 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152296 In article <3f787f48.21278429@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, iddw@hotmail.com (Dave Hansen) wrote: >On Fri, 26 Sep 03 11:10:58 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >[...] >> >>Why do screws turn to the right. >> > >To make it easy to memorize, "Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey." Dang. I forgot that one. I have to look at it in order to turn screws the right way. I just discovered that my new(sorta) drill has a reverse gear on it. Why don't they include "how to use your new toy" instructions with these tools? >>I never did get proficient with the right-hand rule to >>determine which way is up. I always thought that guys >>had an embedded device because they seemed to do this >>automatically. > >Back in my freshman physics class in college, in the heat of a >mid-term, I came to a problem for which I needed the right-hand rule. >Since my pencil was in my right hand, and I was in a hurry, I just >used the other hand. Sigh. Ouch. I always drew a picture, first thing, on a piece of paper. I never got it right if I used my hand. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Don Chiasson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Lines: 26 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:04:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.157.42.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1064930656 24.157.42.82 (Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:04:16 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:04:16 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!newsfeed.mountaincable.net!cyclone01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152312 wrote in message news:blbuvc$f6b$4@bob.news.rcn.net... > In article <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net>, > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:16:36 GMT > >Charles Richmond wrote: > > > >CR> Diana would have been okay, if Chuck had *not* been screwing > >CR> around on her. > > > > I recall one commentary on their wedding that went "He's a hippy. > >She's a sloane. I give it six months". > > What's a sloane? Sloane Square is one of the tony[1] districts of London, in Kensington / Knightsbridge. I've also heard the term Sloane Rangers. ++don e-mail: it's not not, it's hot. [1] Dictionary.com: Tony or Toney: Marked by an elegant or exclusive manner or quality. ###### Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:15:05 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20030930191505.7083c232.steveo@eircom.net> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 2003 19:37:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0721.nas3-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1064950629 maya.euronet.nl 35695 62.234.218.213:2517 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed3.funet.fi!newsfeed2.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!fi.sn.net!newsfeed1.fi.sn.net!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152323 On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:04:16 GMT "Don Chiasson" wrote: DC> DC> wrote in message DC> news:blbuvc$f6b$4@bob.news.rcn.net... DC> > What's a sloane? DC> DC> Sloane Square is one of the tony[1] districts of London, in DC> Kensington / Knightsbridge. I've also heard the term Sloane Rangers. Yep, thems the ones. DC> [1] Dictionary.com: Tony or Toney: Marked by an elegant or exclusive DC> manner or quality. Ohmigod - as in "lowering the tone of the neighbourhood" - ARRRGGH. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: Dave Daniels Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:53:42 +0100 Message-ID: <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.37) Organization: None Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 1Cust151.tnt7.lnd4.gbr.da.uu.net X-Trace: 1064945647 news.dial.pipex.com 8761 62.188.136.151 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152341 In article , wrote: > What's a sloane? Someone of upper middle class pretensions living near or around Sloane Square in London. A waste of flesh, in other words. Dave Daniels ###### From: "Rupert Pigott" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:42:05 +0100 Organization: Titanic Enterprises Unlimited Lines: 29 Message-ID: <1064954526.31277@saucer.planet.gong> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: darkboong.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1064954526 10167 80.177.7.220 (30 Sep 2003 20:42:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:42:06 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Priority: 3 X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cache-Post-Path: saucer.planet.gong!unknown@192.168.69.33 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152315 "Don Chiasson" wrote in message news:A3geb.50503$3r1.15972@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... > > wrote in message > news:blbuvc$f6b$4@bob.news.rcn.net... > > In article <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net>, > > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > >On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:16:36 GMT > > >Charles Richmond wrote: > > > > > >CR> Diana would have been okay, if Chuck had *not* been screwing > > >CR> around on her. > > > > > > I recall one commentary on their wedding that went "He's a hippy. > > >She's a sloane. I give it six months". > > > > What's a sloane? > > Sloane Square is one of the tony[1] districts of London, in > Kensington / Knightsbridge. I've also heard the term Sloane Rangers. I've heard them called coke-slags with gucci handbags, although Sloane Ranger rolls off the tongue a bit easier. :) Cheers, Rupert ###### Message-ID: <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1065043185 12.241.15.59 (Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:19:45 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:19:45 GMT Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:19:45 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.news2me.com!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152414 Dave Daniels wrote: > > In article , > wrote: > > What's a sloane? > > Someone of upper middle class pretensions living near or around > Sloane Square in London. A waste of flesh, in other words. > Does it surpirse you to know...that Princess Diana was *much* more popular in the U.S. than Prince Charles was??? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Lines: 15 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: bbreynolds@aol.comedxedl (Bruce B. Reynolds) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: 02 Oct 2003 23:44:11 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler (Queue Name: usenet_offline-m17) Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20031002194411.22081.00000995@mb-m17.aol.com> Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152699 In article , "Don Chiasson" writes: >> What's a sloane? > >Sloane Square is one of the tony[1] districts of London, in >Kensington / Knightsbridge. I've also heard the term Sloane Rangers. "They're a ravenous horde, and they all came on board at Sloane Square and South Kensington Stations" W. S. Gilbert, _Iolanthe_ -- Bruce B. Reynolds, Trailing Edge Technologies, Glenside PA ###### From: Brian Boutel Organization: X User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:20:15 +1200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.96.144.148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tsnz.net X-Trace: news02.tsnz.net 1065244816 203.96.144.148 (Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:20:16 NZST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:20:16 NZST Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news02.tsnz.net!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152749 Charles Richmond wrote: > Dave Daniels wrote: > >>In article , >> wrote: >> >>>What's a sloane? >> >>Someone of upper middle class pretensions living near or around >>Sloane Square in London. A waste of flesh, in other words. >> > > Does it surpirse you to know...that Princess Diana was > *much* more popular in the U.S. than Prince Charles was??? > Not at all. But I'm unsure whether this is a reflection on the US or on popularity contests. --brian -- Brian Boutel Wellington New Zealand Note the NOSPAM ###### Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 07:58:16 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20031004075816.62f1a49c.steveo@eircom.net> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 20 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 04 Oct 2003 15:33:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0438.nas3-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1065281634 flip.euronet.nl 426 62.234.217.184:1028 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!130.59.10.21.MISMATCH!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152768 On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:20:15 +1200 Brian Boutel wrote: BB> Charles Richmond wrote: BB> BB> > Does it surpirse you to know...that Princess Diana was BB> > *much* more popular in the U.S. than Prince Charles was??? BB> > BB> BB> Not at all. But I'm unsure whether this is a reflection on the US or BB> on popularity contests. Or just a demonstration of the effectiveness of a good publicity machine. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### Message-ID: <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc01 1065281428 12.241.15.59 (Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:30:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:30:28 GMT Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:30:28 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc01.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152766 Brian Boutel wrote: > > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > Dave Daniels wrote: > > > >>In article , > >> wrote: > >> > >>>What's a sloane? > >> > >>Someone of upper middle class pretensions living near or around > >>Sloane Square in London. A waste of flesh, in other words. > >> > > > > Does it surpirse you to know...that Princess Diana was > > *much* more popular in the U.S. than Prince Charles was??? > > > > Not at all. But I'm unsure whether this is a reflection on the US or on > popularity contests. > ISTM that this is because Diana smiled more and had more personality. You gotta admit...Prince Charles is a little short in the "charming" department. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Sun, 05 Oct 03 11:06:29 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb01fqBaokXq1AOgHEnVLcpeiJqshPKXTc7OrGXUAEk4ISzlvtFEsJc X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Oct 2003 12:19:46 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-238 Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152797 In article <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >Brian Boutel wrote: >> >> Charles Richmond wrote: >> >> > Dave Daniels wrote: >> > >> >>In article , >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>>What's a sloane? >> >> >> >>Someone of upper middle class pretensions living near or around >> >>Sloane Square in London. A waste of flesh, in other words. >> >> >> > >> > Does it surpirse you to know...that Princess Diana was >> > *much* more popular in the U.S. than Prince Charles was??? >> > >> >> Not at all. But I'm unsure whether this is a reflection on the US or on >> popularity contests. >> >ISTM that this is because Diana smiled more and had more >personality. You gotta admit...Prince Charles is a little >short in the "charming" department. > How do you detect personality from a picture (which was usually the medium used in the USA)? You see the picture and then, because it is attractive, you believe the words that go along with it. Everything issued by her people were designed with that in mind. I have no idea what the woman was like. I do have an idea of what her publicity department wanted me to think. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Message-ID: <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1065388035 12.241.15.59 (Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152809 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net>, > Charles Richmond wrote: > >Brian Boutel wrote: > >> > >> Charles Richmond wrote: > >> > >> [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > >> > >ISTM that this is because Diana smiled more and had more > >personality. You gotta admit...Prince Charles is a little > >short in the "charming" department. > > > How do you detect personality from a picture (which was > usually the medium used in the USA)? You see the picture > and then, because it is attractive, you believe the words > that go along with it. Everything issued by her people > were designed with that in mind. > > I have no idea what the woman was like. I do have an idea > of what her publicity department wanted me to think. > All true...but "perception has a reality all its own". I know quite a few people who liked Diana...I know *no* one that actually met her in person at all. The PR machine is what most people "know" ISTM. So what was wrong with Prince Charles' PR machine??? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: William Hamblen Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: Cancel-Lock: sha1:sRzmkI2/qUiil3FjzhjL8CX0F4w= References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NFilter: 1.2.0 Lines: 9 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 22:53:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.80.154.84 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1065394422 216.80.154.84 (Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:53:42 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:53:42 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.mountaincable.net!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!140.99.99.194.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152811 On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT, Charles Richmond wrote: > ... The >PR machine is what most people "know" ISTM. So what >was wrong with Prince Charles' PR machine? He probably is the best argument for a republic there is. ###### From: Brian Boutel Organization: X User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030925 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 45 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:18:35 +1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.96.144.148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tsnz.net X-Trace: news02.tsnz.net 1065403116 203.96.144.148 (Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:18:36 NZDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:18:36 NZDT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news02.tsnz.net!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152818 William Hamblen wrote: > On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT, Charles Richmond > wrote: > > >> ... The >>PR machine is what most people "know" ISTM. So what >>was wrong with Prince Charles' PR machine? > > > He probably is the best argument for a republic there is. > Interesting... Since the royals have no political power, I can't see why their appearance, personality or morals is a factor in deciding contitutional issues. Here, we are technically Subjects of the Queen of New Zealand, who happens to occupy the same body as the Queen of England (and all the other bits of the UKOGBANI)[1], but since she rarely visits, and can't interfere, the current arrangements are a lot cheaper to run and far less threatening than republican alternatives. If the USAians had been more patient in 1776, they could have had the very favourable deal we have now. [1] The NZ law regarding succession to the throne is a copy of the UK legislaton, and the separate processes, working in parallel have so far remained in sync. AFAICS there is no reason why they could not diverge if a Monarch abdicated from one of the thrones. This would not be the case if our law said that whoever occupies the UK throne shall also be monarch of NZ. To bring this back on-topic, we have value-semantics, not reference-semantics. --brian -- Brian Boutel Wellington New Zealand Note the NOSPAM ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: <4dk1ov47dv4fr5lm4r3avhcva5fkk71vgv@4ax.com> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 44 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 02:26:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1065407161 24.71.223.147 (Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:26:01 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:26:01 MDT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152820 On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:18:35 +1300 in alt.folklore.computers, Brian Boutel wrote: >William Hamblen wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT, Charles Richmond >> wrote: >> >> >>> ... The >>>PR machine is what most people "know" ISTM. So what >>>was wrong with Prince Charles' PR machine? >> >> >> He probably is the best argument for a republic there is. >> > >Interesting... Since the royals have no political power, I can't see >why their appearance, personality or morals is a factor in deciding >contitutional issues. > >Here, we are technically Subjects of the Queen of New Zealand, who >happens to occupy the same body as the Queen of England (and all the >other bits of the UKOGBANI)[1], but since she rarely visits, and can't >interfere, the current arrangements are a lot cheaper to run and far >less threatening than republican alternatives. > >If the USAians had been more patient in 1776, they could have had the >very favourable deal we have now. > >[1] The NZ law regarding succession to the throne is a copy of the UK >legislaton, and the separate processes, working in parallel have so far >remained in sync. AFAICS there is no reason why they could not diverge >if a Monarch abdicated from one of the thrones. This would not be the >case if our law said that whoever occupies the UK throne shall also be >monarch of NZ. To bring this back on-topic, we have value-semantics, not >reference-semantics. Interestingly enough, the same now also applies to Scotland, as it has its parliament back again. Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### From: D.J. Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 22:17:13 -0500 Organization: TychoTown Tycho Crater Ice Cream Parlour Message-ID: <2jn1ovk408g5rrjv0au3mt5ru0o7t3pmu8@4ax.com> Distribution: world Reply-To: blue7green@wowserscrosswinds.net References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 15 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152822 Brian Boutel wrote: ] If the USAians had been more patient in 1776, they could have had the ] very favourable deal we have now. Some of the US Foundin Fathers had a tea and whisk[e]y smugglingg business to protect. Tea smuggling was what the tea being dumped in Boston Harbor was actually about. The British tea was actually cheaper, with the tax. JimP. -- Jim Disclaimer: Standard July 30, 2003: http://blue7green.net/crestar/index.html drive-in theatres: http://www.drivein-jim.net/ ###### Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:22:59 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 06 Oct 2003 05:57:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0459.nas4-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1065419874 flip.euronet.nl 449 62.234.221.205:1124 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.4.91.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152823 On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT Charles Richmond wrote: CR> All true...but "perception has a reality all its own". CR> I know quite a few people who liked Diana...I know CR> *no* one that actually met her in person at all. The CR> PR machine is what most people "know" ISTM. So what CR> was wrong with Prince Charles' PR machine??? Parental disapproval. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: Morten Reistad Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:56:57 +0200 Organization: me Lines: 49 Message-ID: <9alrlb.eaj.ln@via.reistad.priv.no> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.71.197.12 X-Trace: services.kq.no 1065442535 9991 193.71.197.12 (6 Oct 2003 12:15:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eunet.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:15:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: mrr@via.reistad.priv.no (Morten Reistad) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!news.eunet.no!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152840 In article , Brian Boutel wrote: >William Hamblen wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT, Charles Richmond >> wrote: >>>PR machine is what most people "know" ISTM. So what >>>was wrong with Prince Charles' PR machine? >> He probably is the best argument for a republic there is. >Interesting... Since the royals have no political power, I can't see >why their appearance, personality or morals is a factor in deciding >contitutional issues. Even if modern royalty has taken to "reign" instead of "rule" they still wield substantial political power; even if it does not manifest itself so directly. This power is greatest in constitutional matters. >Here, we are technically Subjects of the Queen of New Zealand, who >happens to occupy the same body as the Queen of England (and all the >other bits of the UKOGBANI)[1], but since she rarely visits, and can't >interfere, the current arrangements are a lot cheaper to run and far >less threatening than republican alternatives. Even so, the Kingdom of New Zealand has significant constitutional ties to the house of Windsor. Even if low-key and distant it remains quite significant. >If the USAians had been more patient in 1776, they could have had the >very favourable deal we have now. If the american colonies had remained as such they would have had a significant pull on the English mindset across the Atlantic. The French Revolution would not have happened as we know it, or it would have beed quashed by the Brits. But that leads us to some wild speculations. > >[1] The NZ law regarding succession to the throne is a copy of the UK >legislaton, and the separate processes, working in parallel have so far >remained in sync. AFAICS there is no reason why they could not diverge >if a Monarch abdicated from one of the thrones. This would not be the >case if our law said that whoever occupies the UK throne shall also be >monarch of NZ. To bring this back on-topic, we have value-semantics, not >reference-semantics. -- mrr ###### From: ignatios@newton.cs.uni-bonn.de (Ignatios Souvatzis) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: 6 Oct 2003 12:28:36 GMT Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <2jn1ovk408g5rrjv0au3mt5ru0o7t3pmu8@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newton.cs.uni-bonn.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de 1065443316 23028 131.220.4.212 (6 Oct 2003 12:28:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Oct 2003 12:28:36 GMT X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152841 D.J. writes: > > Brian Boutel wrote: > ] If the USAians had been more patient in 1776, they could have had the > ] very favourable deal we have now. > > Some of the US Foundin Fathers had a tea and whisk[e]y smugglingg > business to protect. Tea smuggling was what the tea being dumped in > Boston Harbor was actually about. The British tea was actually > cheaper, with the tax. -v? Well, source? -is ###### Message-ID: <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc01 1065458798 12.241.15.59 (Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:46:38 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:46:38 GMT Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:46:38 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc01.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152851 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT > Charles Richmond wrote: > > CR> All true...but "perception has a reality all its own". > CR> I know quite a few people who liked Diana...I know > CR> *no* one that actually met her in person at all. The > CR> PR machine is what most people "know" ISTM. So what > CR> was wrong with Prince Charles' PR machine??? > > Parental disapproval. > Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the Royal Family seems to me to be a "disfunctional" family. Every prince and princess seems to have serious personal problems...with the possible exception of Prince Edward. (I don't know about Prince Charles' offspring...they may have a *chance* at being a little more well adjusted than the others...) -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 08:22:54 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20031007082254.2723d3c9.steveo@eircom.net> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 38 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 07 Oct 2003 18:07:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0283.nas2-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1065550043 flip.euronet.nl 446 62.234.213.29:1080 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!213.253.16.105.MISMATCH!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152951 On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:46:38 GMT Charles Richmond wrote: CR> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: CR> > CR> > Parental disapproval. CR> > CR> Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the Royal Family seems CR> to me to be a "disfunctional" family. Every prince and I'd agree with that. CR> princess seems to have serious personal problems...with I put it down to the clash between an attempt at a traditional Royal upbringing and the 1960s going on around them. Even Andrew had a founder of the Gong Appreciation Society (a fellow called Hippy Chris) as a supervision partner when he hit college, which meant he had to carefully ignore much of what he saw when popping in for something work related (and no nobody ever offered him one - I don't know why). CR> the possible exception of Prince Edward. (I don't know I thought Anne was a perfectly normal horse freak. CR> about Prince Charles' offspring...they may have a *chance* CR> at being a little more well adjusted than the others...) Nobody seems to be mentioning the S word these days - last I looked it was a mess. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 07 Oct 03 11:31:07 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVayZWIEwQIBL49BQrniDbZqK6OwTV5tJsyxeMZZZ58sS/RVF5QatSWh X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Oct 2003 12:44:46 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.abs.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-102-30 Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152928 In article <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >> On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:07:15 GMT >> Charles Richmond wrote: >> >> CR> All true...but "perception has a reality all its own". >> CR> I know quite a few people who liked Diana...I know >> CR> *no* one that actually met her in person at all. The >> CR> PR machine is what most people "know" ISTM. So what >> CR> was wrong with Prince Charles' PR machine??? >> >> Parental disapproval. >> >Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the Royal Family seems >to me to be a "disfunctional" family. My impression is that those kids (Diana and Charles) were simply bored and spoiled; this is a bad combination. > .. Every prince and >princess seems to have serious personal problems...with >the possible exception of Prince Edward. (I don't know >about Prince Charles' offspring...they may have a *chance* >at being a little more well adjusted than the others...) From what I can tell living across the pond, Royals begin working when they're born with no time off for bad or good behaviour. They are immersed in public relations, economies, statemanship; they are instantly a boss of people; that's enough to get anybody sick. I can't think of anything more boring than having to smile and shake hands and be princely or queenly or ladylike. They're not allowed to say bullshit when they hear it (which could be constant); they no longer are allowed to say "off with their heads". /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: D.J. Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:28:31 -0500 Organization: TychoTown Tycho Crater Ice Cream Parlour Message-ID: <0ac5ov8ec4e1hjccoaoil33eh7bge2138d@4ax.com> Distribution: world Reply-To: blue7green@wowserscrosswinds.net References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <2jn1ovk408g5rrjv0au3mt5ru0o7t3pmu8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 20 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!peernews-us.colt.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152925 ignatios@newton.cs.uni-bonn.de (Ignatios Souvatzis) wrote: ] D.J. writes: ] > Some of the US Foundin Fathers had a tea and whisk[e]y smugglingg ] > business to protect. Tea smuggling was what the tea being dumped in ] > Boston Harbor was actually about. The British tea was actually ] > cheaper, with the tax. ] ] -v? Well, source? ] ] -is History channel is what I watch these days, I rarely buy history books anymore. Too expensive. JimP. -- Jim Disclaimer: Standard July 30, 2003: http://blue7green.net/crestar/index.html drive-in theatres: http://www.drivein-jim.net/ ###### From: "John Homes" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:20:42 +1300 Organization: EDS New Zealand Limited Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-134-251-233-226.dhcp.nz.eds.com X-Trace: hermes.nz.eds.com 1065554444 1877 134.251.233.226 (7 Oct 2003 19:20:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@hermes.nz.eds.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:20:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!In.nntp.be!newsfeed01.tsnz.net!news.eds.co.nz!news.nz.eds.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152966 wrote in message news:blucfu$r74$14@bob.news.rcn.net... > > From what I can tell living across the pond, Royals begin > working when they're born with no time off for bad or good > behaviour. They are immersed in public relations, economies, > statemanship; they are instantly a boss of people; that's > enough to get anybody sick. > > I can't think of anything more boring than having > to smile and shake hands and be princely or queenly or ladylike. > They're not allowed to say bullshit when they hear it (which > could be constant); they no longer are allowed to say "off with > their heads". > Now consider that a reasonable summary of Charles's primary duty in his present position is "Wait for your mother to die." That would be enough to mess up anybody. John Homes. ###### Message-ID: <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@nospam.plano.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1065561905 12.241.15.59 (Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:25:05 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:25:05 GMT Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:25:05 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152968 John Homes wrote: > > wrote in message news:blucfu$r74$14@bob.news.rcn.net... > > > > From what I can tell living across the pond, Royals begin > > working when they're born with no time off for bad or good > > behaviour. They are immersed in public relations, economies, > > statemanship; they are instantly a boss of people; that's > > enough to get anybody sick. > > > > I can't think of anything more boring than having > > to smile and shake hands and be princely or queenly or ladylike. > > They're not allowed to say bullshit when they hear it (which > > could be constant); they no longer are allowed to say "off with > > their heads". > > > > Now consider that a reasonable summary of Charles's primary duty in his > present position is "Wait for your mother to die." That would be enough to > mess up anybody. > But why can't Charles have an interesting hobby...like building ships in a bottle or something. What material difference does it make to Charles, if his mother dies. Does he get more money to spend??? Does he have more authority or power??? I really do *not* think so... At least can't Charles have a battleship or something to command and sail around the world with the Navy??? Sheesh!!! Sit down and read a mystery novel, for goodness sake!!! He could do any number of mundane things to keep himself busy. If he has "royal" duties to attend to...he can get someone else to go for him. After all, he has to finish reading the mystery novel. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Larry Elmore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030525 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <2jn1ovk408g5rrjv0au3mt5ru0o7t3pmu8@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <2jn1ovk408g5rrjv0au3mt5ru0o7t3pmu8@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.120.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1065567068 12.237.120.43 (Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:51:08 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:51:08 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:51:08 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152978 D.J. wrote: > Brian Boutel wrote: > ] If the USAians had been more patient in 1776, they could have had the > ] very favourable deal we have now. > > Some of the US Foundin Fathers had a tea and whisk[e]y smugglingg > business to protect. Tea smuggling was what the tea being dumped in > Boston Harbor was actually about. The British tea was actually > cheaper, with the tax. This makes no sense. If British tea _with_ the added tax was cheaper than smuggled tea, then British tea _without_ the tax would've been cheaper yet. In that situation, smuggling would never have started in the first place. From the smuggler's point of view, an added tax would've been a boost to business. It certainly is today. Just look at cigarette smuggling rates vs. cigarette tax rates (they go hand-in-hand). --Larry ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net> Organization: me From: Morten Reistad X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: mrr@via.reistad.priv.no (Morten Reistad) Message-ID: Lines: 58 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 23:15:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.217.4.55 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tele2.no X-Trace: juliett.dax.net 1065568505 193.217.4.55 (Wed, 08 Oct 2003 01:15:05 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 01:15:05 MET DST X-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 01:15:38 MET DST (news01.chello.no) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!feed.news.nacamar.de!uninett.no!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!news01.chello.no!dax.net!juliett.dax.net!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:152981 In article <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >John Homes wrote: >> >> wrote in message news:blucfu$r74$14@bob.news.rcn.net... >> > >> > From what I can tell living across the pond, Royals begin >> > working when they're born with no time off for bad or good >> > behaviour. They are immersed in public relations, economies, >> > statemanship; they are instantly a boss of people; that's >> > enough to get anybody sick. >> > >> > I can't think of anything more boring than having >> > to smile and shake hands and be princely or queenly or ladylike. >> > They're not allowed to say bullshit when they hear it (which >> > could be constant); they no longer are allowed to say "off with >> > their heads". Another argument for a republic. It must also be absolutly impossible to control a teenager that knows [s]he will be King/Queen of England. Off with their heads indeed. >> Now consider that a reasonable summary of Charles's primary duty in his >> present position is "Wait for your mother to die." That would be enough to >> mess up anybody. >> >But why can't Charles have an interesting hobby...like building >ships in a bottle or something. What material difference does it >make to Charles, if his mother dies. Does he get more money to >spend??? Does he have more authority or power??? I really do *not* >think so... Charles has several hobbies. He has a thing for playing Polo, he writes books about architecture (and they are pretty though-provoking; he tries to bury all the post-modernism stuff as deep as he can). >At least can't Charles have a battleship or something to command >and sail around the world with the Navy??? Sheesh!!! Sit down and >read a mystery novel, for goodness sake!!! He could do any number >of mundane things to keep himself busy. And then he runs Cornwall. OK, it is the most remote county in England, but he has enourmous land holdings there; and more or less runs the place. >If he has "royal" duties to attend to...he can get someone else to >go for him. After all, he has to finish reading the mystery novel. I don't think Mom would go for that. Elizabeth is the one of them left of the Old School of royals. Noblesse oblige etc. -- mrr ###### Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 06:56:28 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20031008065628.29628113.steveo@eircom.net> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net> <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 08 Oct 2003 17:00:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0772.nas2-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1065632406 flip.euronet.nl 427 62.234.215.10:1108 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:153059 On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:25:05 GMT Charles Richmond wrote: CR> But why can't Charles have an interesting hobby...like building He has a couple - Organic farming (chosen), Prince of Wales Trust (forced on him). CR> ships in a bottle or something. What material difference does it CR> make to Charles, if his mother dies. Does he get more money to It gets the old bat out of his hair :) Seriously, when he was about 20 there was much speculation about the Queen abdicating in his favour - then he refused the Masonic invitation and his general hippy tendencies became clearer. Talk of abdication ceased with the excuse that he needed to be married first. Di didn't cause HMQ to abdicate either. CR> At least can't Charles have a battleship or something to command He's done his Navy stint, and his Cambridge stint - I suspect neither wants him back (I'd guess it to be mutual too). -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 08 Oct 03 10:39:16 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net> <20031007082254.2723d3c9.steveo@eircom.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbcoAFuP0MfbWHjsqzNyO3Ewe8lByuzAv4wqSFurhVvl2n/42hnQWUL X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Oct 2003 11:53:06 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-206 Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:153042 In article <20031007082254.2723d3c9.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >CR> about Prince Charles' offspring...they may have a *chance* >CR> at being a little more well adjusted than the others...) > > Nobody seems to be mentioning the S word these days - last I >looked it was a mess. S word? Sex? Nope; that's supposed to be messy. What S word? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Date: Wed, 08 Oct 03 10:43:07 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYZHajOq8slmEEr5TwR2gSKMZS4/bQml8uQaTPSddpbTuisjaiaWi4N X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Oct 2003 11:56:57 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-206 Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:153043 In article , Morten Reistad wrote: >In article <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net>, >Charles Richmond wrote: >>John Homes wrote: >>> >>> wrote in message news:blucfu$r74$14@bob.news.rcn.net... >>> > >>> > From what I can tell living across the pond, Royals begin >>> > working when they're born with no time off for bad or good >>> > behaviour. They are immersed in public relations, economies, >>> > statemanship; they are instantly a boss of people; that's >>> > enough to get anybody sick. >>> > >>> > I can't think of anything more boring than having >>> > to smile and shake hands and be princely or queenly or ladylike. >>> > They're not allowed to say bullshit when they hear it (which >>> > could be constant); they no longer are allowed to say "off with >>> > their heads". > >Another argument for a republic. It must also be absolutly impossible >to control a teenager that knows [s]he will be King/Queen of England. >Off with their heads indeed. I think it would be impossible to mature with that over your head and none of the deterrents hanging around anymore. > >>> Now consider that a reasonable summary of Charles's primary duty in his >>> present position is "Wait for your mother to die." That would be enough to >>> mess up anybody. >>> >>But why can't Charles have an interesting hobby...like building >>ships in a bottle or something. What material difference does it >>make to Charles, if his mother dies. Does he get more money to >>spend??? Does he have more authority or power??? I really do *not* >>think so... > >Charles has several hobbies. He has a thing for playing Polo, he >writes books about architecture (and they are pretty though-provoking; >he tries to bury all the post-modernism stuff as deep as he can). It's got to be difficult to find something productive to do. You just can't go out and get any old job that makes widgets. > >>At least can't Charles have a battleship or something to command >>and sail around the world with the Navy??? Sheesh!!! Sit down and >>read a mystery novel, for goodness sake!!! He could do any number >>of mundane things to keep himself busy. > >And then he runs Cornwall. OK, it is the most remote county in England, >but he has enourmous land holdings there; and more or less runs the place. I can't imagine doing that work. I can't imagine how he manages all that and does the other stuff too. > >>If he has "royal" duties to attend to...he can get someone else to >>go for him. After all, he has to finish reading the mystery novel. > >I don't think Mom would go for that. Elizabeth is the one of them >left of the Old School of royals. Noblesse oblige etc. I don't think it's good business sense either. Having authentic Royals takes in a lot tourist money. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 15:10:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1065625824 24.71.223.147 (Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:10:24 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:10:24 MDT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!194.8.194.93.MISMATCH!newsfeed2.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:153052 On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 23:15:05 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, Morten Reistad wrote: >In article <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net>, >Charles Richmond wrote: >>John Homes wrote: >>> >>> wrote in message news:blucfu$r74$14@bob.news.rcn.net... >>> > >>> > From what I can tell living across the pond, Royals begin >>> > working when they're born with no time off for bad or good >>> > behaviour. They are immersed in public relations, economies, >>> > statemanship; they are instantly a boss of people; that's >>> > enough to get anybody sick. >>> > >>> > I can't think of anything more boring than having >>> > to smile and shake hands and be princely or queenly or ladylike. >>> > They're not allowed to say bullshit when they hear it (which >>> > could be constant); they no longer are allowed to say "off with >>> > their heads". > >Another argument for a republic. It must also be absolutly impossible >to control a teenager that knows [s]he will be King/Queen of England. >Off with their heads indeed. I'd imagine the threats of kidnapping and assassination hanging over their heads from birth and the ever-present bodyguards keep them from getting too damn cocky about their situation. Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:36:15 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <20031008193615.78b2d2ac.steveo@eircom.net> References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <4c3a29a4ecdave_daniels@argonet.co.uk> <3F7B6018.565138E4@comcast.net> <3F7F02B9.1FA653FB@comcast.net> <3F80A327.55F4190B@comcast.net> <20031006072259.58798edd.steveo@eircom.net> <3F81B790.ED4CF189@comcast.net> <20031007082254.2723d3c9.steveo@eircom.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Oct 2003 00:33:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0755.nas3-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1065659584 flip.euronet.nl 437 62.234.218.247:1128 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!130.59.10.21.MISMATCH!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:153097 On Wed, 08 Oct 03 10:39:16 GMT jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: JC> In article <20031007082254.2723d3c9.steveo@eircom.net>, JC> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: JC> JC> JC> JC> >CR> about Prince Charles' offspring...they may have a *chance* JC> >CR> at being a little more well adjusted than the others...) JC> > JC> > Nobody seems to be mentioning the S word these days - last I JC> >looked it was a mess. JC> JC> S word? Sex? Nope; that's supposed to be messy. JC> What S word? Succession - it's a big thing with Royals :) -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: Larry Elmore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030525 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] How many group posters does it take to change a lightbulb? References: <20030929193254.78b4a49e.steveo@eircom.net> <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.120.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net 1065651679 12.237.120.43 (Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:21:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:21:19 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:21:19 GMT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.222.21.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:153087 Morten Reistad wrote: > In article <3F834A53.488E3D29@comcast.net>, > Charles Richmond wrote: > >>But why can't Charles have an interesting hobby...like building >>ships in a bottle or something. What material difference does it >>make to Charles, if his mother dies. Does he get more money to >>spend??? Does he have more authority or power??? I really do *not* >>think so... > > > Charles has several hobbies. He has a thing for playing Polo, Doesn't he fall off^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H his horse run out from under him rather often?