From: "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:22:03 +0100 Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1059606878 3160 158.152.132.30 (30 Jul 2003 23:14:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:14:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewspeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!falstaff.tanglewood!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147474 Randall Bart wrote: > Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless > paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company folklore as the most useless comment of all time. Any better examples? -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, author, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover. 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "It burned me from within. It quickened; I was with book as a woman is with child." CS Lewis - Till we have faces, Ch 21. ###### From: lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:27:26 -0600 Lines: 22 Message-ID: <1fyyymi.9bdcd38idux7N%lars@bearnip.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.252.196.227 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059690446 24534460 66.252.196.227 (16 [14293]) X-Orig-Path: lars User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b1 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!66.252.196.227!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147497 Tim Shoppa wrote: > "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: > The best source code I've read usually involves multi-decade projects where > teams are assigned to go back and figure out what the previous programmers > did, why they were trying to do it, etc. These determinations then > go in the comments. > > Sometimes the comments are snide, but usually they are a lot more > sympathetic. Like "they had to do it this odd way because..." or "this was > a good attempt to make the code device-independent but it failed because..." > or "if we were doing this today we'd just use standard library xyz instead > of writing a quarter-million lines of custom code". I do that to my own code, too. My ongoing pet project is the maintenance of a MUD engine, where my first activity was to comment all already existing code. Now, that I am maintaining and improving the code, I often find myself extending the my own comments as I gather new insights about the structure (and shortcomings) of the original code. This detective work is almost more fun than programming itself :-) ###### From: lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:27:27 -0600 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.252.196.227 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059690447 24534460 66.252.196.227 (16 [14293]) X-Orig-Path: lars User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b1 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!66.252.196.227!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147535 Charles Richmond wrote: > Tim Shoppa wrote: > > > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > > > You can comment all the conscious design decisions you made, but it's > > very difficult to comment your own obvious conclusions or unconscious design > > decisions. > > > I had to do an embedded processor project with Z8000 assembly > language. The reason that the Z8000 was chosen, when all the > other things were being done with 68k derivatives...was that > some guy before had written a integral-differential error > correction routine in Z8000 assembly langage...and *no* one > understood what he did...*not* even him, by then. So the project > was done in Z8000 assembly...so this routine could be included > as-is. IIRC, same happened when a couple of enthusiasts set out to port Braben's Elite to modern platforms: the routine to populate a galaxy was a small piece of dense 6502 code, and not even Mr. Braben recalled how it worked. The enthusiasts ended up writing a minimal 6502 emulator to execute the routine. ###### Message-ID: <3F29AEF4.20BA1EF2@yahoo.com> From: Peter Flass X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fyyymi.9bdcd38idux7N%lars@bearnip.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 12 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:05:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.194.50.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyroc.rr.com 1059696305 24.194.50.82 (Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:05:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:05:05 EDT Organization: Road Runner Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!enews.sgi.com!news-out.superfeed.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.superfeed.net!news-west.rr.com!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.nyroc.rr.com!cyclone-out.nyroc.rr.com!twister.nyroc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147402 Lars Duening wrote: > > I do that to my own code, too. My ongoing pet project is the maintenance > of a MUD engine, where my first activity was to comment all already > existing code. Now, that I am maintaining and improving the code, I > often find myself extending the my own comments as I gather new insights > about the structure (and shortcomings) of the original code. > Hopefully you understood it when you wrote it ;-) It's only when you go back later that it doesn't seem so obvious. I do this too. Anything that's not plain when I go back usually gets a comment. ###### From: lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:07:00 -0600 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <1fyz8de.16s0jpuk98u1jN%lars@bearnip.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fyyymi.9bdcd38idux7N%lars@bearnip.com> <3F29AEF4.20BA1EF2@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.252.196.227 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059707222 24129733 66.252.196.227 (16 [14293]) X-Orig-Path: lars User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b1 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!66.252.196.227!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147496 Peter Flass wrote: > Lars Duening wrote: > > > > I do that to my own code, too. My ongoing pet project is the maintenance > > of a MUD engine, where my first activity was to comment all already > > existing code. Now, that I am maintaining and improving the code, I > > often find myself extending the my own comments as I gather new insights > > about the structure (and shortcomings) of the original code. > > > > Hopefully you understood it when you wrote it ;-) The code I wrote - yes. Usually. The code originating from other people however.... there are pieces in the engine which I still don't understand fully. > It's only when you go > back later that it doesn't seem so obvious. I do this too. Anything > that's not plain when I go back usually gets a comment. You mean, things like an inconsistent order of the operands for arithmetic instructions (this is a bytecode interpreter for home-grown language), which turns out to be determined by the order in which the yacc-generated parser reduces the statements in the originating program? ###### From: lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 00:13:32 -0600 Lines: 20 Message-ID: <1fyzc83.1ymo34f1pdkgfpN%lars@bearnip.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3f29cedd.29803176@news.digital.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.252.196.227 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059718413 24278157 66.252.196.227 (16 [14293]) X-Orig-Path: lars User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b1 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!66.252.196.227!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147508 Benjamin Robinson wrote: > In alt.folklore.computers, on the "Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour)" > thread, Phil Budne wrote: > > Speaking of lone arcane comments, I remember a story one of my former > coworkers told me. He inherited a program the Air Force used to calculate > nominal rocket trajectories or some such. The code predated modern practice > and, naturally, was sparsely commented. He recalled one particularly hairy > section that had precisely one comment: > > Trust me, it works. > > (And apparently, it did!) Another lone arcane comment story (unfortunately I lost the original posting mentioning it): a rather complex compiler in less-than-self documenting code, and with exactly one comment: This is hairy. ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:39:20 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-846.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147503 In article <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: > Any better examples? I don't know about "better", but I've got one. A programmer, who shall go nameless since I forget his name, wrote a surgical pathology program in FORTRAN w/o any comments, then moved away. The boss contracted him to add comments at $50/hour (late 1980s). He added comments like C This is a comment and C What the hell was I thinking? I think he got paid, too. -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: 31 Jul 2003 06:55:51 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.121.15.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1059659752 17371 127.0.0.1 (31 Jul 2003 13:55:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jul 2003 13:55:52 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!uninett.no!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147512 "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote in message news:<3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... > Randall Bart wrote: > > > Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless > > paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The > > This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some > convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came > across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: > > CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag > > Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd > written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company > folklore as the most useless comment of all time. > > Any better examples? The best source code I've read usually involves multi-decade projects where teams are assigned to go back and figure out what the previous programmers did, why they were trying to do it, etc. These determinations then go in the comments. Sometimes the comments are snide, but usually they are a lot more sympathetic. Like "they had to do it this odd way because..." or "this was a good attempt to make the code device-independent but it failed because..." or "if we were doing this today we'd just use standard library xyz instead of writing a quarter-million lines of custom code". A lot of these were design decisions that in one-big-bang-projects don't filter their way down to the code comment level. Often the original implementers had never done the task before or they were just doing it the way they were told to do it; the later generations of programmers knew of similar (but different) projects and actually realized the design choices that had been unconsciously made by the first designers/programmers. You can comment all the conscious design decisions you made, but it's very difficult to comment your own obvious conclusions or unconscious design decisions. Tim. ###### From: Eric Sosman Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:49:07 -0400 Organization: Sun Microsystems Lines: 39 Message-ID: <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: Eric.Sosman@Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: tardis.east.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news1brm.Central.Sun.COM 1059662948 24876 129.148.168.113 (31 Jul 2003 14:49:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news1brm.central.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:49:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-CCK-MCD [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.222.61.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!feed.news.qwest.net!namche.sun.com!news1brm.central.sun.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147534 "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: > > Randall Bart wrote: > > > Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless > > paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The > > This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some > convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came > across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: > > CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag > > Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd > written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company > folklore as the most useless comment of all time. > > Any better examples? A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of S/360 BAL, and apparently his optimization criterion was the saving of keypunch time: no comments, no register equates, fields separated with single spaces instead of lined up neatly. The management objected so good ol' Glenn wrote himself a little program to line up the columns nicely, convert raw register numbers to equates, and generate comments. Of course, the result wasn't too informative: L R1,X LOAD R1 FROM X AR R1,R1 ADD R1 TO R1 ST R1,Y STORE R1 TO Y BAL R14,SUBR BRANCH TO SUBR, LINK IN R14 ... and so on. The crowning joke is that management took a look at the neatly-formatted code, noted that every line had a comment, and accepted the work. -- Eric.Sosman@sun.com ###### From: budd@csa.bu.edu (Phil Budne) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers Date: 31 Jul 2003 15:07:24 GMT Organization: Boston University Computer Science Dept. Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: news3.bu.edu 1059664044 28231 128.197.12.3 (31 Jul 2003 15:07:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@bu.edu Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!elk.ncren.net!news.bu.edu!budd Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147415 "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote in message news:<3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... > This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some > convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came > across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: > > CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag > > Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd > written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company > folklore as the most useless comment of all time. > > Any better examples? The PDP-6 FORTRAN II compiler, written by (MIT PDP-1 hacker) Peter Samson was alleged to have exactly one comment: "RIPJSB" on a line which contained the octal constant for the year of J.S. Bach's death. http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/tops-history.txt Then of course there's the infamous "you are not expected to understand this" from version 6 Unix, documented by DMR (along with other bits of Unix oddness, and a mea culpa for the comment "this is the clever part"); http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/odd.html Both of the above (and others) are cited in: http://neil.franklin.ch/Underst_Computers ###### From: Marco S Hyman Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: 31 Jul 2003 11:40:08 -0700 Organization: S.N.A.F.U. -- http://www.snafu.org/ Lines: 21 Sender: marc@hana.snafu.org Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dumbcat.snafu.org (64.174.80.155) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059679026 24095108 64.174.80.155 (16 [97260]) X-Orig-Path: dumbcat.snafu.org!news User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dumbcat.snafu.ORG!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147435 shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) writes: > filter their way down to the code comment level. Often the original > implementers had never done the task before or they were just doing it the > way they were told to do it; the later generations of programmers knew Ah yes, the "I was told to do it that way" excuse. When new programmers started working for me the first thing I told them was to NEVER follow my instructions regarding HOW to do something as they were based upon my probably out-of-date understanding of the code. The good ones learned that it was probably worth looking at my proposed solution for some ideas, but that the correct solution was often someplace else. The second thing I told new programmers was that the more insistant I was regarding a particular solution the more likely I was wrong :-) Some thought I was joking. // marc ###### From: ab528@freenet.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:53:03 -0400 Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Lines: 22 Sender: ab528@freenet.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p7.tc2.std.dialup.ncf.ca X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1059677678 14171 134.117.137.130 (31 Jul 2003 18:54:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jul 2003 18:54:38 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Given-From: "Heinz Wiggeshoff" Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.magnet.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.online.be!216.170.153.135.MISMATCH!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147477 "Eric Sosman" wrote in message news:3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com... > A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of > S/360 BAL, ... > L R1,X LOAD R1 FROM X > AR R1,R1 ADD R1 TO R1 > ST R1,Y STORE R1 TO Y > BAL R14,SUBR BRANCH TO SUBR, LINK IN R14 Hey, this gives me an idea: assembler programming using speech recognition software! > > ... and so on. The crowning joke is that management took > a look at the neatly-formatted code, noted that every line > had a comment, and accepted the work. But only after it was fed through an automatic flowchart generator, right? ###### Message-ID: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1059680140 12.241.15.59 (Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:35:40 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:35:40 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:35:40 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147527 Howard S Shubs wrote: > > In article <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, > "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: > > > Any better examples? > > I don't know about "better", but I've got one. > > A programmer, who shall go nameless since I forget his name, wrote a > surgical pathology program in FORTRAN w/o any comments, then moved away. > The boss contracted him to add comments at $50/hour (late 1980s). He > added comments like > > C This is a comment > > and > > C What the hell was I thinking? > I remember coming across pieces of code in a large C program, a couple of years after the program had been in use out in the field. I looked at the code...and there was *no* way it ever could have worked. I *not* only wondered what I was thinking...I wondered how it went so long without causing a problem. Even then, I think I was checking out a different problem...but I quickly changed the bad code too. Reminds me of news story I heard a dozen years ago. In Los Angeles, a lady's father was dying. He called her to his bed, and told her about this bottle of chemicals in the garage that she had to call the police and get rid of. Then shortly after, her father died. With all the grief, the funeral, and everything...the bottle of chemicals was forgotten. Then, two years later, she remembered the chemicals. She called the police, and they went to the garage to check. Turns out it was a large bottle of nitroglycerin...sitting in the garage for *two* years. > > I think he got paid, too. > Well, the programmer should have been paid...but IMHO he should have made a good-faith effort to add some meaningful comments. What is a "surgical pathology" program anyway??? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Message-ID: <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1059680386 12.241.15.59 (Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:39:46 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:39:46 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:39:46 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147520 Tim Shoppa wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > You can comment all the conscious design decisions you made, but it's > very difficult to comment your own obvious conclusions or unconscious design > decisions. > I had to do an embedded processor project with Z8000 assembly language. The reason that the Z8000 was chosen, when all the other things were being done with 68k derivatives...was that some guy before had written a integral-differential error correction routine in Z8000 assembly langage...and *no* one understood what he did...*not* even him, by then. So the project was done in Z8000 assembly...so this routine could be included as-is. So I had very little I could write for this routine in the way of comments... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Message-ID: <3F298CCD.4086586@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc02 1059680638 12.241.15.59 (Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:43:58 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:43:58 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:43:58 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!195.40.4.120.MISMATCH!easynet-quince!easynet.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147513 Eric Sosman wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of > S/360 BAL, and apparently his optimization criterion was the > saving of keypunch time: no comments, no register equates, > fields separated with single spaces instead of lined up > neatly. The management objected so good ol' Glenn wrote > himself a little program to line up the columns nicely, > convert raw register numbers to equates, and generate > comments. Of course, the result wasn't too informative: > > L R1,X LOAD R1 FROM X > AR R1,R1 ADD R1 TO R1 > ST R1,Y STORE R1 TO Y > BAL R14,SUBR BRANCH TO SUBR, LINK IN R14 > > ... and so on. The crowning joke is that management took > a look at the neatly-formatted code, noted that every line > had a comment, and accepted the work. > "A nod is as good as a wink...to a blind horse." Many managers do *not* understand what their programmers are doing. That is why the managers make all the decisions... their judgement is *not* clouded by the facts. Or to put it another way: "Those who understand the technology don't control it. Those who control the technology don't understand it." -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: 31 Jul 2003 23:43:24 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: vpn-129-156-96-56.emea.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: new-usenet.uk.sun.com 1059695004 17511 129.156.96.56 (31 Jul 2003 23:43:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@new-usenet.uk.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jul 2003 23:43:24 GMT X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!feed.news.qwest.net!namche.sun.com!news1brm.central.sun.com!new-usenet.uk.sun.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147476 In the update comment block at the head of a piece of code which drives serial ports, was something like the following... "Autobaud detection now fixed so high baud rates don't lockup port. Re-entry into autobaud works without killing port. Flow control now works to prevent corrupt plotter printouts. Fix crash when user is forcibly logged out whilst using screen editor. I have no idea why these changes work." -- Andrew Gabriel Consultant Software Engineer ###### Message-ID: <3F29AD1D.A8155893@yahoo.com> From: Peter Flass X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 10 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 23:57:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.194.50.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyroc.rr.com 1059695834 24.194.50.82 (Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:57:14 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:57:14 EDT Organization: Road Runner Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.222.61.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!167.206.3.103.MISMATCH!news3.optonline.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!cyclone.nyroc.rr.com!cyclone-out.nyroc.rr.com!twister.nyroc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147400 Eric Sosman wrote: > > A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of > S/360 BAL, and apparently his optimization criterion was the > saving of keypunch time: no comments, no register equates, > fields separated with single spaces instead of lined up > neatly. Don't laugh. I know a guy who still codes this way, except for the spaces part. ###### From: ace join_to ware@iinet.net.au (Tony Epton) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 02:00:27 GMT Organization: Aceware Programming Pty Ltd Message-ID: <3f29c793.2315752@news.m.iinet.net.au> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.59.54.231 X-Trace: 1059704270 freenews.iinet.net.au 23598 203.59.54.231 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone.bc.net!HSNX.atgi.net!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!freenews.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147461 > A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of >S/360 BAL, and apparently his optimization criterion was the >saving of keypunch time: no comments, no register equates, >fields separated with single spaces instead of lined up >neatly. The management objected so good ol' Glenn wrote >himself a little program to line up the columns nicely, >convert raw register numbers to equates, and generate >comments. Of course, the result wasn't too informative: I remember while doing a Graduate Diploma in Computing 1979 to 1983. We had two labs full of Teleray terminals to use, hanging off the DEC 10 using TECO as an editor ? (I think it's the same DEC 10 that is now in Paul Repacholi's rumpus room) Often the response time to a single keystroke was thirty seconds until the character was echoed. Sometimes we would have to come in at 3.00 am in order to get a decent response time. Consequently - all my assignments submitted had virtually no comments - and I used to get a lot of criticism for this when assessed. Meanwhile, during the day - I was working on an IBM series 1 using EDL under EDX and a full screen editor called $FSEDIT (I think). All our work was beautifully and copiously commented. I still find it an amusing contrast. Tony Epton My counsellor told me I must learn to live in the present. Well I'm halfway there - I can't remember what I did yesterday. ###### From: bjr7@freenet.tlh.fl.us (Benjamin Robinson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Organization: Dümmster Anzunehmender User GmbH Message-ID: <3f29cedd.29803176@news.digital.net> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 35 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 02:25:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.14.207 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1059704734 209.165.14.207 (Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:25:34 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:25:34 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.news2me.com!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147459 In alt.folklore.computers, on the "Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour)" thread, Phil Budne wrote: >"Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" >wrote in message news:<3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... >> This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some >> convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came >> across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: >> >> CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag > >The PDP-6 FORTRAN II compiler, written by (MIT PDP-1 hacker) Peter >Samson was alleged to have exactly one comment: "RIPJSB" on a line >which contained the octal constant for the year of J.S. Bach's death. > >http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/tops-history.txt A story very similar to this appears on "Code Complete," by Steve McConnell, except that the comment was "R. I. P. L. V. B," with the constant adjusted appropriately. Speaking of lone arcane comments, I remember a story one of my former coworkers told me. He inherited a program the Air Force used to calculate nominal rocket trajectories or some such. The code predated modern practice and, naturally, was sparsely commented. He recalled one particularly hairy section that had precisely one comment: Trust me, it works. (And apparently, it did!) -- Benjamin Robinson bjr7@freenet.tlh.fl.us This message may or may not contain sarcastic content; your burden to decide "Sum ... mer's ... Read ... dy Summer is ready when you are" -- The Breeders ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 23:00:46 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-211.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147501 In article <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: > Then, two years later, she remembered the chemicals. She called the police, > and they went to the garage to check. Turns out it was a large bottle > of nitroglycerin...sitting in the garage for *two* years. Not just nitro, but OLD nitro. Great. > What is a "surgical pathology" program anyway??? The short answer is that it's related to health care, and was part of a system of health care-related programs which shall remain nameless. It was later redone by a programmer with a much more methodi-cal way of doing things. She might have completely recoded it, for all I know. She almost certainly added comments IIRC. -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 05:20:38 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f29e88a.3108292@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 28 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147427 Charles Richmond wrote: [snip] >I remember coming across pieces of code in a large C program, a couple >of years after the program had been in use out in the field. I looked >at the code...and there was *no* way it ever could have worked. I *not* >only wondered what I was thinking...I wondered how it went so long >without causing a problem. Even then, I think I was checking out a >different problem...but I quickly changed the bad code too. Someone posted a story--possibly here, but a Google failed--about tracking down a problem on a program running on an Apple II. Apparently, the person came to the conclusion that there was no way that a certain section could ever have been working right, and after taking a close look, saw that the compiler error messages had been turned off. The code was not even compiling correctly. [snip] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 01 Aug 03 14:09:24 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fyz2jh.11oa45cozatceN%proto@panix.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ4qvHTcGxrF8l/FWiDImVw1062GHOoLjAMV5KcoO/sQebvFBCDLYg0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Aug 2003 15:11:25 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-77 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147556 In article <1fyz2jh.11oa45cozatceN%proto@panix.com>, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: >Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > >> Randall Bart wrote: >> >> > Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless >> > paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The >> >> This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some >> convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came >> across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: >> >> CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag > >Oh No! Mr. Bill. > >maybe it was a flag on a bill? > >> Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd >> written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company >> folklore as the most useless comment of all time. >> >> Any better examples? I got an immediate vision of a play by play of two dueling programmers, one who is assigned to implement this side of the computer and the other one has to implement the other side. The only way they can figure out how to stay in sync is set the other's flag. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:03:02 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <1fyz2jh.11oa45cozatceN%proto@panix.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1059746582 9401 166.84.199.79 (1 Aug 2003 14:03:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:03:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.4.91.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!colt.net!nycmny1-snf1.gtei.net!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147568 Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > Randall Bart wrote: > > > Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless > > paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The > > This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some > convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came > across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: > > CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag Oh No! Mr. Bill. maybe it was a flag on a bill? > Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd > written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company > folklore as the most useless comment of all time. > > Any better examples? -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 03 11:42:22 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYBkwefGr7ydc/dwSZzIj2/pK1mWV9aVfGrpMP3RCzT+vGlhBytdtL0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Aug 2003 12:44:24 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-175 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147550 In article , shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) wrote: >"Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote in message news:<3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... >> Randall Bart wrote: >> >> > Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless >> > paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The >> >> This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some >> convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came >> across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: >> >> CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag >> >> Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd >> written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company >> folklore as the most useless comment of all time. >> >> Any better examples? > >The best source code I've read usually involves multi-decade projects where >teams are assigned to go back and figure out what the previous programmers >did, why they were trying to do it, etc. These determinations then >go in the comments. > >Sometimes the comments are snide, but usually they are a lot more >sympathetic. Like "they had to do it this odd way because..." or "this was >a good attempt to make the code device-independent but it failed because..." >or "if we were doing this today we'd just use standard library xyz instead >of writing a quarter-million lines of custom code". > >A lot of these were design decisions that in one-big-bang-projects don't >filter their way down to the code comment level. Often the original >implementers had never done the task before or they were just doing it the >way they were told to do it; the later generations of programmers knew >of similar (but different) projects and actually realized the design choices >that had been unconsciously made by the first designers/programmers. > >You can comment all the conscious design decisions you made, but it's >very difficult to comment your own obvious conclusions or unconscious design >decisions. Sure. There is another category of not commenting: The pieces that everybody knows. It was a waste of time, money and storage space. Even in the computer biz, which is young, not everybody knows it anymore. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 03 11:47:10 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZhkJ717v7tADNxilOff/1DX9FuSFy33pWpoxde0pD19jH4aQRNP8nM X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Aug 2003 12:49:12 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-175 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147553 In article <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com>, Eric Sosman wrote: >"Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: >> >> Randall Bart wrote: >> >> > Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless >> > paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The >> >> This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some >> convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came >> across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: >> >> CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag >> >> Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd >> written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company >> folklore as the most useless comment of all time. >> >> Any better examples? > > A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of >S/360 BAL, and apparently his optimization criterion was the >saving of keypunch time: no comments, no register equates, >fields separated with single spaces instead of lined up >neatly. The management objected so good ol' Glenn wrote >himself a little program to line up the columns nicely, >convert raw register numbers to equates, and generate >comments. Of course, the result wasn't too informative: > > L R1,X LOAD R1 FROM X > AR R1,R1 ADD R1 TO R1 > ST R1,Y STORE R1 TO Y > BAL R14,SUBR BRANCH TO SUBR, LINK IN R14 > >.... and so on. The crowning joke is that management took >a look at the neatly-formatted code, noted that every line >had a comment, and accepted the work. > Hey, don't knock it. I now know what each opcode does. At least you didn't have to convert raw machine language to ASCII letters. ;-) /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 03 11:48:38 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> <3F29AD1D.A8155893@yahoo.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY9JxvJOkeA9QpPG24ww/98gKclN7sF93ChdH2L5unkPXsyN10wvUbh X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Aug 2003 12:50:39 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!petbe.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-175 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147558 In article <3F29AD1D.A8155893@yahoo.com>, Peter Flass wrote: >Eric Sosman wrote: >> >> A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of >> S/360 BAL, and apparently his optimization criterion was the >> saving of keypunch time: no comments, no register equates, >> fields separated with single spaces instead of lined up >> neatly. > >Don't laugh. I know a guy who still codes this way, except for the >spaces part. If you need a ton of working code yesterday, you use these guys. I bet they really welcomed terminals with videos that could keep up with their typing speed. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 03 11:57:56 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb+pnyUbtsgSQ8OtxJl8i/KpqBHnzwh4NoKP3IiJBYTsaOIvf7Au+zq X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Aug 2003 12:59:59 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-175 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147552 In article <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com>, Eric Sosman wrote: >"Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: >> >> Randall Bart wrote: >> >> > Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless >> > paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The >> >> This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some >> convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came >> across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: >> >> CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag >> >> Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd >> written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company >> folklore as the most useless comment of all time. >> >> Any better examples? > > A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of >S/360 BAL, and apparently his optimization criterion was the >saving of keypunch time: no comments, no register equates, >fields separated with single spaces instead of lined up >neatly. The management objected so good ol' Glenn wrote >himself a little program to line up the columns nicely, >convert raw register numbers to equates, and generate >comments. Of course, the result wasn't too informative: > > L R1,X LOAD R1 FROM X > AR R1,R1 ADD R1 TO R1 > ST R1,Y STORE R1 TO Y > BAL R14,SUBR BRANCH TO SUBR, LINK IN R14 > >.... and so on. The crowning joke is that management took >a look at the neatly-formatted code, noted that every line >had a comment, and accepted the work. > IIRC, some edict came down that stated, "Thou shalt comment code. Each page must have comment." Knowing the guys I worked with, I bet some those lines were ;this is a comment. TW's answer to this edict was to write a TECO macro that would paw through his code line by line, display the code and leave the editor in insert mode after inserting the ;. The macro resumed execution after TW typed a (I think) . He also muttered the comments out loud as he tried to figure out why the code was there. There were a lot of "Beats the shit outta me"s getting muttered. He had no problems writing comments when he wrote changing in the listings for Magee to edit. He just didn't take the time to write comments as he debugged. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 03 14:12:38 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaobsvz0iYUA+jEffUoLQM9fiXOIKEGL29wLmiG0V4AccrQhGgIlaP0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Aug 2003 15:14:39 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-77 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147546 In article , jimmydevice wrote: >Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > >> Randall Bart wrote: >> >> >>>Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless >>>paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The >> >> >> This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some >> convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came >> across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: >> >> CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag >> >> Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd >> written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company >> folklore as the most useless comment of all time. >> >> Any better examples? >> >At PSU ( Portland state ) in 75, I worked the comp center help desk. >One RATFOR program I was asked to debug stands out. Paraphrased: >.... > DO 100 ASSHOLE=SHIT,CRAP,FUCK >C FUCK YOU PROF, YOU FUCKING BUTTWIPE > TURD=ASSHOLE/2 >C PSU EATS SHIT >...... > >Every variable was a expletive, every comment an attack on staff >and school. No hint as to what the progran was expected to perform. > >The funny part? He wanted me to fix it. >Jim Davis. >OT: The hardware was an IBM 1130 You can't leave this one hanging. What did you do? In 1975, you wouldn't have a raspberry subroutine in FORLIB. /BAH ###### From: jimmydevice Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:42:56 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 38 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147566 Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > Randall Bart wrote: > > >>Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless >>paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The > > > This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some > convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came > across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: > > CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag > > Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd > written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company > folklore as the most useless comment of all time. > > Any better examples? > At PSU ( Portland state ) in 75, I worked the comp center help desk. One RATFOR program I was asked to debug stands out. Paraphrased: ... DO 100 ASSHOLE=SHIT,CRAP,FUCK C FUCK YOU PROF, YOU FUCKING BUTTWIPE TURD=ASSHOLE/2 C PSU EATS SHIT ..... Every variable was a expletive, every comment an attack on staff and school. No hint as to what the progran was expected to perform. The funny part? He wanted me to fix it. Jim Davis. OT: The hardware was an IBM 1130 ###### From: Rich Alderson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: 01 Aug 2003 12:30:28 -0400 Organization: Systems Administration, XKL LLC, Redmond WA 98052 Lines: 17 Sender: alderson+news@panix5.panix.com Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix5.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1059755428 12266 166.84.1.5 (1 Aug 2003 16:30:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:30:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.linkpendium.com!panix!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147562 This was mentioned in a long post to alt.sys.pdp10 some years back: Subject: A History of TOPS From: stevens_j@eisner.decus.org (Jack H. Stevens) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Date: 13 Jan 95 15:10:41 -0500 Organization: DECUServe For the youngsters who think in hex only: The hack value of the octal constant, 1750, is that if taken as decimal it's the year of J. S. Bach's death, but its usefulness in a FORTRAN compiler is that it represents the same value as the decimal constant 1000. -- Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com "You get what anybody gets. You get a lifetime." --Death, of the Endless ###### From: jpdavis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:58:12 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 72 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147564 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > In article , > jimmydevice wrote: > >>Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: >> >> >>>Randall Bart wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Medium Systems TIFINQ was a messy little program full of meaningless >>>>paragraph names such as KCUF, OLD-NAG, DARK-HORSE, and CLOCKER-JIM. The >>> >>> >>>This reminded me of the day I was ploughing through a listing of some >>>convoluted and largely incomprehensible PDP-11 assembler and I came >>>across a single comment in a prarie of commentless code: >>> >>> CLR @-76(R4) ; Reset Bill's Flag >>> >>>Having no idea where R4 was pointing, who Bill was, what modules he'd >>>written or what the seven bells the flag meant this line entered company >>>folklore as the most useless comment of all time. >>> >>>Any better examples? >>> >> >>At PSU ( Portland state ) in 75, I worked the comp center help desk. >>One RATFOR program I was asked to debug stands out. Paraphrased: >>.... >> DO 100 ASSHOLE=SHIT,CRAP,FUCK >>C FUCK YOU PROF, YOU FUCKING BUTTWIPE >> TURD=ASSHOLE/2 >>C PSU EATS SHIT >>...... >> >>Every variable was a expletive, every comment an attack on staff >>and school. No hint as to what the progran was expected to perform. >> >>The funny part? He wanted me to fix it. >>Jim Davis. >>OT: The hardware was an IBM 1130 > > > You can't leave this one hanging. What did you do? > > In 1975, you wouldn't have a raspberry subroutine in FORLIB. > > /BAH I said ( standard help desk ) What's the problem? I looked at the code, a green bar obscene diatribe from my beloved/despised 1403 printer. At every oportunity, the "programmer" had used every cuss word I was aware of at the young age of 19. It was apparent the author was of the "athletic" bent and a frat rat at that. He said: It's assignment 3, comp 101 ( or some such ) I said, What's it suppose to do? He said, Don't you have the assignment? I said, No, Could you explain it? He mumbled a bit, while I poured through a dozen pages of total confusion. I actually admired the guy's ability to create somthing lacking any symbolic reference. the mind boggles. I blew him off with, "Sorry, I can't understand this." ( with 30 people standing in the queue, it was all I could do ) He walked off, mumbling. Jim Davis ( sure wish I'd have saved that listing ) ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: 01 Aug 03 11:03:34 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 43 Message-ID: <1466.343T1730T6635287@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F292C63.BA0B9E58@sun.com> <3F29AD1D.A8155893@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-446.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsfeed.sjc.globix.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147602 In article jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) writes: >In article <3F29AD1D.A8155893@yahoo.com>, >Peter Flass wrote: > >>Eric Sosman wrote: >>> >>> A programmer of my acquaintance wrote a whole bunch of >>> S/360 BAL, and apparently his optimization criterion was the >>> saving of keypunch time: no comments, no register equates, >>> fields separated with single spaces instead of lined up >>> neatly. >> >>Don't laugh. I know a guy who still codes this way, except for the >>spaces part. > >If you need a ton of working code yesterday, you use these guys. >I bet they really welcomed terminals with videos that could >keep up with their typing speed. I wouldn't. Few things made a 360 assembly listing more unreadable than leaving a single space between label, opcode, and operands: LA 8,TABLE LA 10,L'TABLE L 11 TABLIM LOOP CLC 0(4,8),FOO BE FOUNDIT BXLE 8,10,LOOP I think I threatened violence to people who thought about writing that way, even if they did comment everything well. I certainly would be willing to take the time to show them how to prepare a drum card and use the SKIP key on a keypunch to avoid this while preserving typing speed. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 19:36:40 +0100 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1059805021 21459 158.152.132.30 (2 Aug 2003 06:17:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 06:17:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.4.91.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!falstaff.tanglewood!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147603 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >At PSU ( Portland state ) in 75, I worked the comp center help desk. > >One RATFOR program I was asked to debug stands out. Paraphrased: > >.... > > DO 100 ASSHOLE=SHIT,CRAP,FUCK > >C FUCK YOU PROF, YOU FUCKING BUTTWIPE OTOH on a slightly more pleasant note I have a set of macros that make this main () { Hark the Herald Angels sing Glory to the new born king Peace on Earth and mercy mild God and sinners reconciled } compile and print a Christmas greeting. Year after year I forget to enter it for the obfuscated C contest. One amusing property of it is that the greeting does not appear in readable form in the macros. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, author, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover. 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "It burned me from within. It quickened; I was with book as a woman is with child." CS Lewis - Till we have faces, Ch 21. ###### From: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: 2 Aug 2003 06:47:09 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet10 X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1059806829 13524 134.117.136.30 (2 Aug 2003 06:47:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2003 06:47:09 GMT X-Given-Sender: ab528@freenet10.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!luth.se!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab528 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147604 "Bob Billing " (unclebob@tnglwood.demon.co.uk) writes: > > OTOH on a slightly more pleasant note I have a set of macros that make > this > > main () > { > Hark the Herald Angels sing > Glory to the new born king > Peace on Earth and mercy mild > God and sinners reconciled > } Thanks for reminding me that there are only 3 and 3/4 months left for Christmas shopping. Have I not posted a copy of the Twelve Days of Christmas from the SNOBOL4 book yet? B-) ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 03 11:00:53 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C3848.5BCF545E@ev1.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZKnas4i3uHHphMXJPjODn1Ia3XDrHpAVjtoQcECltENW51ryHvAWfq X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Aug 2003 12:03:15 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.tu-darmstadt.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-11 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147652 In article <3F2C3848.5BCF545E@ev1.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article , >> jpdavis wrote: >> >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >I said ( standard help desk ) >> >> When I manned one, we called it "consultant". >> >Reminds me of a cartoon. There were two desks with >a person behind each. One desk had a sign that said: >"User Assistance"...the other had a sign that said: >"Sympathy". > Sympathy was one of the main jobs of a den mother. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 03 11:03:02 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVa1ofTUN1xmXF/yePu6ysc640VUXUxH37tvVcvvGkp4U7CkPgNQdY69 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Aug 2003 12:05:25 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!199.184.165.233!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-11 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147653 In article <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: >Charles Richmond wrote: > >> Since "King" refers to Christ, it should be capitalized... >> do your macroes do that? > >I was following the capitalisation of Matt 2:2 - in the original Greek, >not translation.[1] :=*) > >However as this causes compatibility problems for some users I'll fix it >in the next release. "Fixed in next release." Boy, does that one bring back memories. > >[1] Yes, I know perfectly well about uncial continuo manuscripts, thank >you. This is for entertainment only. Okay, query time. What is the netiquette of [not]snipping footnotes? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Message-ID: <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1059937169 12.241.15.59 (Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:59:29 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:59:29 GMT Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:59:29 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147697 "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: > > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > Since "King" refers to Christ, it should be capitalized... > > do your macroes do that? > > I was following the capitalisation of Matt 2:2 - in the original Greek, > not translation.[1] :=*) > > However as this causes compatibility problems for some users I'll fix it > in the next release. > > [1] Yes, I know perfectly well about uncial continuo manuscripts, thank > you. This is for entertainment only. > I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for God, should be capitalized. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 15:55:54 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-690.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!colt.net!nycmny1-snf1.gtei.net!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147690 In article <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: > I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am > *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always > taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for > God, should be capitalized. I learned, over 11 years ago, that what one learns in school has generally been simplified for the student. You get more complexity later. -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:23:16 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <1fz5ov4.dk0p0jthd0t2N%proto@panix.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <8mqriv49eqrqudghqiuu82rli7pbgi1quf@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1060006998 19876 166.84.199.79 (4 Aug 2003 14:23:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:23:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!dca1-feed2.news.algx.net!allegiance!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147821 Brian Inglis wrote: > On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 15:55:54 -0400 in alt.folklore.computers, > Howard S Shubs wrote: > > >In article <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net>, > > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > >> I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am > >> *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always > >> taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for > >> God, should be capitalized. > > > >I learned, over 11 years ago, that what one learns in school has > >generally been simplified for the student. You get more complexity > >later. > > I learned that in first year high school Chemistry -- every year > thru and including university you got taught another model that > dealt with a different level of abstraction for looking at matter > -- the teacher or lecturer would invariably make some reference > outside the scope of the current year's model, and when > questioned about it, would tell us "don't worry about it, you'll > learn about all that next year!" > > Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada And then you leave school, and start learning about reality. -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:23:18 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 31 Message-ID: <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1060006999 19876 166.84.199.79 (4 Aug 2003 14:23:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147823 Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am > > *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always > > taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for > > God, should be capitalized. > > The original MSS of the NT were written in a form that made no > distinction between cases. The idea of caps came in much later. Actually it was lower case that was invented later. ;P) One of the advances of the _Holy Roman Empire_, IIRC. Amazing that I can recall anything from that time period. > This is drifing into shark, or worse, infested waters. > > I'll simply point out that your grammar school may well have been CoE, > whereas I am more aligned to a nonconformist tradition with slightly > different conventions. > > It might be a good idea to terminate this thread soon. The last thing we > want is a religious flamewar /about/ /religion/. -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: mwilson@the-wire.com (Mel Wilson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: <8PoL/ks/KPUA089yn@the-wire.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> Lines: 22 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.37Beta [95/NT] Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 12:04:12 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.206.39.32 X-Trace: nnrp1.uunet.ca 1060020940 205.206.39.32 (Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:15:40 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:15:40 EDT Organization: WorldCom Canada Ltd. News Reader Service Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone.bc.net!news.uunet.ca!nnrp1.uunet.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147748 In article <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1Nroto@panix.com>, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: >Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > >> Charles Richmond wrote: >> >> > I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am >> > *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always >> > taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for >> > God, should be capitalized. >> >> The original MSS of the NT were written in a form that made no >> distinction between cases. The idea of caps came in much later. > >Actually it was lower case that was invented later. ;P) One of the >advances of the _Holy Roman Empire_, IIRC. Amazing that I can recall >anything from that time period. Short term usually goes first. What have you got on Frederick Wilhelm? Regards. Mel. ###### Message-ID: <3F2EE7B5.1398276B@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1060031593 12.241.15.59 (Mon, 04 Aug 2003 21:13:13 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 21:13:13 GMT Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 21:13:13 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147854 Walter Bushell wrote: > > Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > > > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > > > I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am > > > *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always > > > taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for > > > God, should be capitalized. > > > > The original MSS of the NT were written in a form that made no > > distinction between cases. The idea of caps came in much later. > > Actually it was lower case that was invented later. ;P) One of the > advances of the _Holy Roman Empire_, IIRC. Amazing that I can recall > anything from that time period. > Yes, it is amazing...you were only a small child at the time. ;-) -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Floyd Davidson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 04 Aug 2003 14:08:06 -0800 Organization: __________ Lines: 26 Message-ID: <87znip3wl5.fld@barrow.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2EE7B5.1398276B@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-299.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: gnus 5.8.3/XEmacs 21.1.9/Linux Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!tethys.csu.net!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147732 Charles Richmond wrote: >Walter Bushell wrote: >> >> Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: >> >> > Charles Richmond wrote: >> > >> > > I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am >> > > *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always >> > > taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for >> > > God, should be capitalized. >> > >> > The original MSS of the NT were written in a form that made no >> > distinction between cases. The idea of caps came in much later. >> >> Actually it was lower case that was invented later. ;P) One of the >> advances of the _Holy Roman Empire_, IIRC. Amazing that I can recall >> anything from that time period. >> >Yes, it is amazing...you were only a small child at the time. ;-) What's amazing is how well he can type now. -- Floyd L. Davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com ###### From: toby@telegraphics.com.au (Toby Thain) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 5 Aug 2003 06:59:35 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.26.194.94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1060091976 1994 127.0.0.1 (5 Aug 2003 13:59:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Aug 2003 13:59:36 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147840 proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote in message news:<1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com>... > Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > > > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > > > I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am > > > *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always > > > taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for > > > God, should be capitalized. > > > > The original MSS of the NT were written in a form that made no > > distinction between cases. The idea of caps came in much later. You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman alphabet (what was it?) > > Actually it was lower case that was invented later. ;P) One of the > advances of the _Holy Roman Empire_, IIRC. Amazing that I can recall > anything from that time period. Gad, this is a familiar firestarter in a.f.c. Lower case appears to postdate the Romans, although they did of course perfect the capital letterforms. An old post with some facts: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D423FD9.6040409%40telegraphics.com.au > > > This is drifing into shark, or worse, infested waters. > > > > I'll simply point out that your grammar school may well have been CoE, > > whereas I am more aligned to a nonconformist tradition with slightly > > different conventions. > > > > It might be a good idea to terminate this thread soon. The last thing we > > want is a religious flamewar /about/ /religion/. Or palaeography... Toby ###### From: toby@telegraphics.com.au (Toby Thain) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 5 Aug 2003 07:03:52 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> <1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.26.194.94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1060092232 2245 127.0.0.1 (5 Aug 2003 14:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Aug 2003 14:03:52 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147842 lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) wrote in message news:<1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com>... > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > Tim Shoppa wrote: > > > > > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > > > > > You can comment all the conscious design decisions you made, but it's > > > very difficult to comment your own obvious conclusions or unconscious design > > > decisions. > > > > > I had to do an embedded processor project with Z8000 assembly > > language. The reason that the Z8000 was chosen, when all the > > other things were being done with 68k derivatives...was that > > some guy before had written a integral-differential error > > correction routine in Z8000 assembly langage...and *no* one > > understood what he did...*not* even him, by then. So the project > > was done in Z8000 assembly...so this routine could be included > > as-is. > > IIRC, same happened when a couple of enthusiasts set out to port > Braben's Elite to modern platforms: the routine to populate a galaxy was > a small piece of dense 6502 code, and not even Mr. Braben recalled how > it worked. The enthusiasts ended up writing a minimal 6502 emulator to > execute the routine. That was *their* story anyway. Once the emulator was done, they suddenly realised it was easier just to emulate the whole game than rewrite any of it, and went home early. Toby ###### From: "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:55:21 +0100 Lines: 12 Message-ID: <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1060105440 5207 158.152.132.30 (5 Aug 2003 17:44:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:44:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!proxad.net!proxad.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!falstaff.tanglewood!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147814 Toby Thain wrote: > You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman > alphabet (what was it?) Correct. The NT was written in Greek. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, author, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover. 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "It burned me from within. It quickened; I was with book as a woman is with child." CS Lewis - Till we have faces, Ch 21. ###### From: Patrick Scheible Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 05 Aug 2003 13:14:41 -0700 Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Cache-Post-Path: yasure!unknown@cascadia.drizzle.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b5 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 14 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147753 toby@telegraphics.com.au (Toby Thain) writes: > proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote in message news:<1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com>... > > Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: > > > > > The original MSS of the NT were written in a form that made no > > > distinction between cases. The idea of caps came in much later. > > You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman > alphabet (what was it?) Greek, isn't it? -- Patrick ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 03 12:16:47 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZIXNrbeOOgfnK7MQwvQD0E7V/SQtsatMq+ssLO1CjAKcSjhHyGRVFw X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Aug 2003 13:19:21 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-216 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147773 In article <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: >Charles Richmond wrote: > >> I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am >> *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always >> taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for >> God, should be capitalized. > >The original MSS of the NT were written in a form that made no >distinction between cases. The idea of caps came in much later. > >This is drifing into shark, or worse, infested waters. > >I'll simply point out that your grammar school may well have been CoE, >whereas I am more aligned to a nonconformist tradition with slightly >different conventions. > >It might be a good idea to terminate this thread soon. The last thing we >want is a religious flamewar /about/ /religion/. Religion? I thought you were talking about Misoft's latest OS ;-). /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 03 11:02:44 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZxr13hzDiJiVazbwMArnz8drz7OH6wy/FeegjDFw6hsQ6a6B/37ULw X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Aug 2003 12:05:26 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-120 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147750 In article , cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: >Who he? The guy's trying to slew a great story into politics. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 03 11:06:29 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ0HeVRTueyZ+2/xsl/+55Za2ZQiRnGhkFNrZmzAQSbh8dotqIgTF2J X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Aug 2003 12:09:11 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed3.funet.fi!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!uio.no!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-120 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147752 In article , "PLZI" wrote: >To the question at hand, then. If I've understood correctly, just having >liquid-form nitroglycerin on the shelf is not a problem which gets worse >over time, it should get more and more diluted, untill it's not dangerous >anymore. A shelf in a garage? 1. Kids 2. Old lady driving car into garage. 3. Is all shelving in garages sturdy with lips? 4. My house shakes every time a truck passes by and the windows shake when a certain guy with a gazillion amps in his car drives by. > ..On the other hand, say, if the nitriding acid was made carelessly, >and contains quite a large portion of sulfuric acid, and then someone would >accidentally insert a fair amount of water at once - you would have to >choose from options a) run fast, because the sudden insertion of water and >the hydrolytic reaction would rise the temperature of the mixture, and you'd >get nice bright orange dioxin cloud coming at your way or b) run _very_ >fast, if the temperature would rise enough for the liquid to go from >hydrolytic reaction to very brisant exotermic reaction. > >Oh, and I've had to choose the option "a" once. :) At least it's orange. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 03 11:09:45 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY65dYhqaOhfRefcTOFnWky5hE3fUDOXjhyNo37oJsy739IMM6SjGpp X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Aug 2003 12:12:27 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!dca1-feed2.news.algx.net!allegiance!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-120 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147772 In article <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org>, Sam Yorko wrote: >Chris Hedley wrote: >> >> According to Kevin G. Rhoads : >> > >Not just nitro, but OLD nitro. Great. >> >> Does old nitro get more unstable over time? I suspected things >> which have nitro in a stablising compound like dynamite got more >> awkward to handle as they got hot and sweaty and leaked nitro >> from the compound over some indeterminate period of time. I >> suppose old explosives in general (well, and new ones as well) >> are best handled by someone else, ie not me. >> > >We just a case like this here in San Jose. > >Old lady decides it's time to clean out the garage and dump a lot of >stuff to the Goodwill. Looks up in rafters, and sees a couple of sticks >of dynamite with icicles oozing from them down the beams. Calls >aquaintance to see what to do. Aquaintance happens to be in police >department, who calls in bomb squad. They find that the dynamite had >been there for >40 years<, and had been put there by lady's husband when >they had moved from a farm to the house (he had used to use it to clear >out old wells and the like); husband had passed away a few years >before. The icicles were pretty much pure nitro that had leaked out. >Bomb squad figures out the only safe way to dispose of it is to burn it >>in place<. So, they evacuate the immediate vicinity, put a >trash can full of diesel and oil under the dynamite, have >everybody stand away from the garage, get all the fire >equipment they can get in place, and light the trash can. > >They let it burn for two minutes, and then dumped all the water they >could onto the fire. Net result: nitro disposed of, hole in roof of >garage, no other damage, and the insurance paid for everything. With this story and the nitro one, you guys have just made my day. I have a father, who is more pig-headed than I am, and still doesn't believe that DDT (insecticide) is bad. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: <8mqriv49eqrqudghqiuu82rli7pbgi1quf@4ax.com> References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 27 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:17:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1059974254 24.71.223.147 (Sun, 03 Aug 2003 23:17:34 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 23:17:34 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news2.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147704 On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 15:55:54 -0400 in alt.folklore.computers, Howard S Shubs wrote: >In article <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net>, > Charles Richmond wrote: > >> I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am >> *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always >> taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for >> God, should be capitalized. > >I learned, over 11 years ago, that what one learns in school has >generally been simplified for the student. You get more complexity >later. I learned that in first year high school Chemistry -- every year thru and including university you got taught another model that dealt with a different level of abstraction for looking at matter -- the teacher or lecturer would invariably make some reference outside the scope of the current year's model, and when questioned about it, would tell us "don't worry about it, you'll learn about all that next year!" Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### From: Thomas Womack Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: 04 Aug 2003 07:50:03 +0100 (BST) Organization: Linux Unlimited Lines: 18 Message-ID: <-gt*gc4Yp@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rapun.sel.cam.ac.uk Originator: twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk ([193.201.200.170]) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewspeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!server1.netnews.ja.net!hgmp.mrc.ac.uk!pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147825 In article , Howard S Shubs wrote: >In article <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net>, > Charles Richmond wrote: > >> I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am >> *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always >> taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for >> God, should be capitalized. > >I learned, over 11 years ago, that what one learns in school has >generally been simplified for the student. You get more complexity >later. "Inert gases form compounds at A-level and above" was the view one of my chemistry teachers had of this. Makes a great one-line sig. Tom ###### From: "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 09:01:09 +0100 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1059984312 1799 158.152.132.30 (4 Aug 2003 08:05:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 08:05:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!falstaff.tanglewood!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147815 Charles Richmond wrote: > I do *not* know about the "uncial contiuo" manuscripts...I am > *far* from a religious scholar. It's just that I was always > taught in grammar school...that any word used as a synonym for > God, should be capitalized. The original MSS of the NT were written in a form that made no distinction between cases. The idea of caps came in much later. This is drifing into shark, or worse, infested waters. I'll simply point out that your grammar school may well have been CoE, whereas I am more aligned to a nonconformist tradition with slightly different conventions. It might be a good idea to terminate this thread soon. The last thing we want is a religious flamewar /about/ /religion/. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, author, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover. 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "It burned me from within. It quickened; I was with book as a woman is with child." CS Lewis - Till we have faces, Ch 21. ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:47:11 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <8mqriv49eqrqudghqiuu82rli7pbgi1quf@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-795.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147831 In article <8mqriv49eqrqudghqiuu82rli7pbgi1quf@4ax.com>, Brian Inglis wrote: > I learned that in first year high school Chemistry -- every year > thru and including university you got taught another model that > dealt with a different level of abstraction for looking at matter > -- the teacher or lecturer would invariably make some reference > outside the scope of the current year's model, and when > questioned about it, would tell us "don't worry about it, you'll > learn about all that next year!" Precisely. I took two semesters of Chemestry. At my first contract job, I was working with three seriously experienced, PHd level, chemical engineers. They told me the product was made thus and so. I said, waitaminut. Then, in my head, I compared our level of education and said, nebbermind.... -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:48:33 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <-gt*gc4Yp@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-811.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!140.99.99.194.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147838 In article <-gt*gc4Yp@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Thomas Womack wrote: > "Inert gases form compounds at A-level and above" was the view one > of my chemistry teachers had of this. Makes a great one-line sig. Interesting how suddenly everyone is thinking "chemistry", huh? :-) -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 22:37:16 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Date: 04 Aug 2003 21:41:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.3.247.95 X-Trace: 1060033261 news.gradwell.net 56603 cbh/80.3.247.95 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@gradwell.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!news.anlx.net!caladan!news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147741 According to Kevin G. Rhoads : > >Not just nitro, but OLD nitro. Great. Does old nitro get more unstable over time? I suspected things which have nitro in a stablising compound like dynamite got more awkward to handle as they got hot and sweaty and leaked nitro from the compound over some indeterminate period of time. I suppose old explosives in general (well, and new ones as well) are best handled by someone else, ie not me. > You realize, of course, that by justing exhibiting that minimal > amount of competence in handling of explosives you are now (as > I am) on at least one of Tom Ridge's lists. ;-) Who he? Chris. -- "If the world was an orange it would be like much too small, y'know?" Neil, '84 Currently playing: random early '80s radio stuff http://www.chrishedley.com - assorted stuff, inc my genealogy. Gan canny! ###### From: "PLZI" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Lines: 49 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:12:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.177.74.186 X-Complaints-To: abuse@inet.fi X-Trace: read3.inet.fi 1060042347 131.177.74.186 (Tue, 05 Aug 2003 03:12:27 EEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 03:12:27 EEST Organization: Sonera corp Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!130.59.10.21.MISMATCH!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!nntp.inet.fi!central.inet.fi!inet.fi!read3.inet.fi.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147728 "Chris Hedley" wrote in message news:cmjmgb.563.ln@teabag.cbhnet... > According to Kevin G. Rhoads : > > >Not just nitro, but OLD nitro. Great. > > Does old nitro get more unstable over time? I suspected things > which have nitro in a stablising compound like dynamite got more > awkward to handle as they got hot and sweaty and leaked nitro > from the compound over some indeterminate period of time. I > suppose old explosives in general (well, and new ones as well) > are best handled by someone else, ie not me. This would have been my question as well. Dynamite sweats nitroglycerin, but this is because nitroglycerin is formed from glycerin and nitriding acid, which in turn is a mixture of sulfuric acid and nitric acid. Sulfuric acid is there to make the nitric acid more potent, as it is hydrolytic (it draws the water from usually less potent nitric acid, as 100% nitric acid is a gas - it does not come in liquid form, and the nitriding of the glycerin happens when the nitrid acid is concentrated near 100%). There within lies the problem, in more ways than one. If dynamite is stored in humid environment (not necessarily warm), the sulfuric acid within the nitroglycerin starts to form beads of nitroglycerin on the surface of the dynamite - the dynamite "sweats", as the sulfuric acid is attracted towards moisture. As time passes, you have something very nasty on your hands - sticks of silica compound covered with very unstable explosive. As more time passes (considerably more), the problem goes away - if all the nitro is sweated out of the dynamite, and enough water is present, it will be dilluted enough not to be hazardous. But this takes a _very_ long time, so sweating dynamite is a thing you do _not_ want to handle. To the question at hand, then. If I've understood correctly, just having liquid-form nitroglycerin on the shelf is not a problem which gets worse over time, it should get more and more diluted, untill it's not dangerous anymore. On the other hand, say, if the nitriding acid was made carelessly, and contains quite a large portion of sulfuric acid, and then someone would accidentally insert a fair amount of water at once - you would have to choose from options a) run fast, because the sudden insertion of water and the hydrolytic reaction would rise the temperature of the mixture, and you'd get nice bright orange dioxin cloud coming at your way or b) run _very_ fast, if the temperature would rise enough for the liquid to go from hydrolytic reaction to very brisant exotermic reaction. Oh, and I've had to choose the option "a" once. :) - PLZI ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 22:16:35 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-665.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!129.250.169.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147834 In article , "PLZI" wrote: > To the question at hand, then. If I've understood correctly, just having > liquid-form nitroglycerin on the shelf is not a problem which gets worse > over time, it should get more and more diluted, untill it's not dangerous So if it's in glass on a shelf, no biggie? -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: Sam Yorko Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 18:52:59 -0800 Lines: 32 Message-ID: <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: symsj01.sj.symbol.com (63.145.233.34) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1060048351 27938030 63.145.233.34 (16 [71567]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!symsj01.sj.symbol.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147725 Chris Hedley wrote: > > According to Kevin G. Rhoads : > > >Not just nitro, but OLD nitro. Great. > > Does old nitro get more unstable over time? I suspected things > which have nitro in a stablising compound like dynamite got more > awkward to handle as they got hot and sweaty and leaked nitro > from the compound over some indeterminate period of time. I > suppose old explosives in general (well, and new ones as well) > are best handled by someone else, ie not me. > We just a case like this here in San Jose. Old lady decides it's time to clean out the garage and dump a lot of stuff to the Goodwill. Looks up in rafters, and sees a couple of sticks of dynamite with icicles oozing from them down the beams. Calls aquaintance to see what to do. Aquaintance happens to be in police department, who calls in bomb squad. They find that the dynamite had been there for >40 years<, and had been put there by lady's husband when they had moved from a farm to the house (he had used to use it to clear out old wells and the like); husband had passed away a few years before. The icicles were pretty much pure nitro that had leaked out. Bomb squad figures out the only safe way to dispose of it is to burn it >in place<. So, they evacuate the immediate vicinity, put a trash can full of diesel and oil under the dynamite, have everybody stand away from the garage, get all the fire equipment they can get in place, and light the trash can. They let it burn for two minutes, and then dumped all the water they could onto the fire. Net result: nitro disposed of, hole in roof of garage, no other damage, and the insurance paid for everything. Sam ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: lon.stowell@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1060052911 12.240.77.188 (Tue, 05 Aug 2003 03:08:31 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 03:08:31 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 03:08:31 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147721 Howard S Shubs wrote: > In article , > "PLZI" wrote: > >> To the question at hand, then. If I've understood correctly, just having >> liquid-form nitroglycerin on the shelf is not a problem which gets worse >> over time, it should get more and more diluted, untill it's not dangerous > > So if it's in glass on a shelf, no biggie? > Sure. As long as it stays in the glass on the shelf. Living about a mile from the San Andreas, you'll forgive me if I don't offer to test this for ya. I don't remember liquid nitro becoming less potent over time, e.g. whether or not it is hygroscopic. The "sweat" nitro from old dynamite sure doesn't appear to, although it isn't as touchy as nitrogen triiodide. ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:04:46 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-636.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147836 In article <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org>, Sam Yorko wrote: > They let it burn for two minutes, and then dumped all the water they > could onto the fire. Net result: nitro disposed of, hole in roof of > garage, no other damage, and the insurance paid for everything. And that's the LAST time that lady asks her friend for advice. :-D -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: "PLZI" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Lines: 20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 14:25:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.177.74.186 X-Complaints-To: abuse@inet.fi X-Trace: read3.inet.fi 1060093537 131.177.74.186 (Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:25:37 EEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:25:37 EEST Organization: Sonera corp Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!nntp.inet.fi!central.inet.fi!inet.fi!read3.inet.fi.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147711 wrote in message news:bgo6p7$pjf$8@bob.news.rcn.net... > In article , > "PLZI" wrote: > > > >To the question at hand, then. If I've understood correctly, just having > >liquid-form nitroglycerin on the shelf is not a problem which gets worse > >over time, it should get more and more diluted, untill it's not dangerous > >anymore. > > A shelf in a garage? Obviously not A Good Thing (tm). Point being, would it become _more_ dangerous over time. I think everyone agrees that the initial setting is very, very unnerving indeed. - PLZI ###### From: "PLZI" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Lines: 26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:02:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.177.74.186 X-Complaints-To: abuse@inet.fi X-Trace: read3.inet.fi 1060106530 131.177.74.186 (Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:02:10 EEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:02:10 EEST Organization: Sonera corp Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!nntp.inet.fi!central.inet.fi!inet.fi!read3.inet.fi.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147735 "Lon Stowell" wrote in message news:PcFXa.46422$Oz4.13224@rwcrnsc54... > Howard S Shubs wrote: > > > In article , > > "PLZI" wrote: > > > >> To the question at hand, then. If I've understood correctly, just > >> having liquid-form nitroglycerin on the shelf is not a problem which > >> gets worse over time, it should get more and more diluted, untill it's > >> not dangerous > > > > So if it's in glass on a shelf, no biggie? > > e.g. whether or not it is hygroscopic. The "sweat" nitro from Mental note: Hygroscopic. Not hydrolytic. Thanks for setting me straight, it's been more than 15 years since the last home chemistry experiments. :) (more excuses: as everyone can surely tell, english is not my native tongue. Man, did I have hard time flipping through finnish-english dictionary, trying to find correct names for the acids and the process itself.) - PLZI ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: lon.stowell@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1060120737 12.240.77.188 (Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:58:57 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:58:57 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:58:57 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!priapus.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147722 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > In article , > "PLZI" wrote: > > >>To the question at hand, then. If I've understood correctly, just having >>liquid-form nitroglycerin on the shelf is not a problem which gets worse >>over time, it should get more and more diluted, untill it's not dangerous >>anymore. > > A shelf in a garage? Yup, happened here in the San Jose Bay area just recently. Apparently nobody had hit the garage wall hard enough [1] and even the Loma Prieta quake didn't shake it hard enough to kaboom. Someone else posted already how the local bomb squad/fire department disposed of the stuff. [1] Can just picture the report being submitted to the insurance company: "I accidentally hit the back wall of the garage, and the next thing I knew, the whole damn roof blew off...." ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:25:47 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1060187177 18372 166.84.199.79 (6 Aug 2003 16:26:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:26:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!dca1-feed2.news.algx.net!allegiance!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147951 wrote: > In article , > Ralf A. Quint wrote: > >On Tue, 05 Aug 03 11:06:29 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >>4. My house shakes every time a truck passes by and the > >>windows shake when a certain guy with a gazillion amps in > >>his car drives by. > >> > >well, that would give the word "boom box" a complete new meaning.... > >;-))) > > That is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is > that I get my wish and the whole contraption, including the > deaf operator, goes "Boom!". There exists a set of parents > in this neighborhood who have a scheme to get rich quick. > They've bought their kids one of those thingies that puts > a motor on a scooter. The only way to detect that one is > coming down the street to to listen for a soft high whine. > It doesn't help that these kids ride these things down > the middle of the busy street where semis, dump trucks and > cars routinely go 10-15 MPH over the speed limit (35MPH). > > > /BAH > > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. They don't ride them on the sidewalk? -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 03 10:52:15 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZZuu2Vo5fDbZRmtRMy0wSgcBQH1Hc75u30Ub5KqvULG7wSSxbqb+Ar X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Aug 2003 11:55:07 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-237 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147912 In article , "PLZI" wrote: > >"Lon Stowell" wrote in message >news:PcFXa.46422$Oz4.13224@rwcrnsc54... >> Howard S Shubs wrote: >> >> > In article , >> > "PLZI" wrote: >> > >> >> To the question at hand, then. If I've understood correctly, just >> >> having liquid-form nitroglycerin on the shelf is not a problem which >> >> gets worse over time, it should get more and more diluted, untill it's >> >> not dangerous >> > >> > So if it's in glass on a shelf, no biggie? >> >> e.g. whether or not it is hygroscopic. The "sweat" nitro from > >Mental note: Hygroscopic. Not hydrolytic. Thanks for setting me straight, >it's been more than 15 years since the last home chemistry experiments. :) > >(more excuses: as everyone can surely tell, english is not my native tongue. Heh. I didn't notice. >Man, did I have hard time flipping through finnish-english dictionary, >trying to find correct names for the acids and the process itself.) Wow. You have a good dictionary. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 03 10:56:41 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVahGu53SpJoN6TaGO9JHV3UzRTgI5NvYNqdJMuKS1Qg/kfY0s54DUlD X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Aug 2003 11:59:33 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-237 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147906 In article , Ralf A. Quint wrote: >On Tue, 05 Aug 03 11:06:29 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > >>4. My house shakes every time a truck passes by and the >>windows shake when a certain guy with a gazillion amps in >>his car drives by. >> >well, that would give the word "boom box" a complete new meaning.... >;-))) That is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that I get my wish and the whole contraption, including the deaf operator, goes "Boom!". There exists a set of parents in this neighborhood who have a scheme to get rich quick. They've bought their kids one of those thingies that puts a motor on a scooter. The only way to detect that one is coming down the street to to listen for a soft high whine. It doesn't help that these kids ride these things down the middle of the busy street where semis, dump trucks and cars routinely go 10-15 MPH over the speed limit (35MPH). /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: Ralf A. Quint Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 20:37:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: corp-news Lines: 11 X-Authenticated-User: $$xz5mdkb84o X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! 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My house shakes every time a truck passes by and the >windows shake when a certain guy with a gazillion amps in >his car drives by. > well, that would give the word "boom box" a complete new meaning.... ;-))) ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: Charles Shannon Hendrix Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> Reply-To: cshSPAM@SPAM.widomaker.com User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:00:23 -0400 Message-ID: <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.96.179.248 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1060200063 209.96.179.248 (6 Aug 2003 15:01:03 -0500) Lines: 36 X-Comments: This message was posted through Visit Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news-out2.nntp.be!local!news-out.superfeed.net!local!corp.newsgroups.com!escape.shannon.net!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147932 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > With this story and the nitro one, you guys have just made my day. > I have a father, who is more pig-headed than I am, and still doesn't > believe that DDT (insecticide) is bad. My step-grandfather told me about when he was a kid, they used to pretend to be running a prison. Hard times meant you had to have big imaginations, and living near factories, they had access to all kinds of cast-off stuff. Naturally they needed a gas chamber, since that was one of the neatest things in the news at the time. Yep... they used DDT canisters. Put one of the "prisoners" in an old barrel or boiler, and proceeded to gas him. He also dared another one of the guys to stick his tongue to the railroad tracks. They'd already done it as a challenge to house siding and a barrel. It is quite a bit harder to heat a railroad beam with your breath, so the poor kid could not get his tongue loose. A train came and he kept blowing and licking with the free parts to try and get loose. Just before the train struck, the boy had to just pull free, taking some of his taste buds and a good bit of skin off. -- UNIX/Perl/C/Pizza____________________s h a n n o n@wido !SPAM maker.com -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 07 Aug 03 11:10:43 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaU4a4h7sdDFmNzTgxmRSSQ3sZAqfiye0Ah66pYVXLKsBVpLhVyJilv X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Aug 2003 12:13:48 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!dca1-feed2.news.algx.net!allegiance!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-27 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148111 In article <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com>, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: > wrote: > >> In article , >> Ralf A. Quint wrote: >> >On Tue, 05 Aug 03 11:06:29 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> > >> > >> >>4. My house shakes every time a truck passes by and the >> >>windows shake when a certain guy with a gazillion amps in >> >>his car drives by. >> >> >> >well, that would give the word "boom box" a complete new meaning.... >> >;-))) >> >> That is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is >> that I get my wish and the whole contraption, including the >> deaf operator, goes "Boom!". There exists a set of parents >> in this neighborhood who have a scheme to get rich quick. >> They've bought their kids one of those thingies that puts >> a motor on a scooter. The only way to detect that one is >> coming down the street to to listen for a soft high whine. >> It doesn't help that these kids ride these things down >> the middle of the busy street where semis, dump trucks and >> cars routinely go 10-15 MPH over the speed limit (35MPH). >They don't ride them on the sidewalk? Nobody to hit. In Massachusetts' cities, given a choice between using a sidewalk and the road, pedestrians will choose the road. This is a common attitude problem fomented by those health nuts who jog. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbR0e1N0XjuJzTQUthwnRaNm8U6bNUfeFXj/Np7ukmEi1ufAAo1xGKu X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Aug 2003 11:21:09 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-240 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148008 In article , mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) wrote: >In article , wrote: >>In article <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com>, > ... >>Nobody to hit. In Massachusetts' cities, given a choice between >>using a sidewalk and the road, pedestrians will choose the road. >>This is a common attitude problem fomented by those health nuts who >>jog. > >That's not just Massachusetts. Whenever I visit my folks in Houston, I >usually end up contending with several joggers that feel obligated to jog >down the _middle_ of the road. This is despite the legally mandated four >foot wide sidewalks on either side of the road. Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:20:35 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <112d64c0.0308071046.52783b9d@posting.google.com> <1fzc6gg.1wab7wq1y1hu0fN%proto@panix.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbM9qkFVXsFDwedAEyB/dMreatYU3BRPQwzHA01QeizQsNH0ditfZ2s X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Aug 2003 11:23:49 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-240 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148009 In article <1fzc6gg.1wab7wq1y1hu0fN%proto@panix.com>, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: >Olafur Gunnlaugsson wrote: > >> "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote in >message news:<3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... >> > Toby Thain wrote: >> > >> > > You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman >> > > alphabet (what was it?) >> > >> > Correct. The NT was written in Greek. >> >> Windows NT ? >> >> That explains a lot......... > >No Windows was written in Pig Latin. I disagree. I can figure out Pig Latin. I have yet to figure out Windows. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 09 Aug 03 11:19:48 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYwBEGj0H5GT0KjPka+U288k3FaN5V8KGijJuGnr63kzLI4oQ/0P0cS X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Aug 2003 12:23:14 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!eusc.inter.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-164 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148065 In article , mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) wrote: >In article <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, >Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: >>Toby Thain wrote: >> >>> You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman >>> alphabet (what was it?) >> >>Correct. The NT was written in Greek. > >Isn't XP in Greek pretty close to Cairo? (Chi Rho, maybe :-) Am I glad you spelled that one out. I wouldn't have felt the whoosh when it went over my head. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sun, 10 Aug 03 09:40:23 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY99UQbt/I4WeDtXzz0jkBU6t+meXtNC3cDw89ueoyb3MXQwsEtb+po X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Aug 2003 10:43:57 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-191 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148054 In article <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com>, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: > wrote: > >> In article , >> Larry Elmore wrote: >> > In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> With this story and the nitro one, you guys have just made my day. >> >> I have a father, who is more pig-headed than I am, and still doesn't >> >> believe that DDT (insecticide) is bad. >> > >> >Depends on what you mean by "bad." In some ways, much of what replaced DDT >> >was worse. >> >> Yup. He used that stuff, too. >> >> > ..Also, most of the problems with DDT were associated with >> >incredible overspraying (under the theory that, "if a little's good, a lot >> >must be better."). >> >> That's Dad's life philosophy. >> >> > ..Ironically, considering that it was the government that >> >banned use of DDT, it was often government spraying programs that were by >> >far the worst offenders (farmers have a real incentive to use as little as >> >will get the job done, while agencies have a whole different set of >> >priorities and incentives). >> > >> >Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks pretty "good." >> >> We didn't have malaria in Michigan. >Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population >density is too high? According to my mother, it means I didn't wash my hands. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 11 Aug 03 10:25:33 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> <1fzhjhs.1vdcf7g1o7fcbfN%proto@panix.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVa+E82KEHOpf7iC4FQfU4ezvLVDVDFFuxlg4AI+2iY705By1OEwDulA X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Aug 2003 11:29:19 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-188 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148060 In article <1fzhjhs.1vdcf7g1o7fcbfN%proto@panix.com>, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: > wrote: >> >Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population >> >density is too high? >> >> According to my mother, it means I didn't wash my hands. >Actually that is one of the top things to do to avoid general >infections. In fact getting a doctor who washes his hands is better, >but harder. But try avoiding the doorknob in restrooms, they are >probably filhty from people who don't wash their hands. That's why I always wear a long-sleeved sweat shirt. I can always cover my hand if I have to turn a knob or pull on a handle. Since I have a disease that involves compromising my immune system, I've learned all kinds of little tricks to avoid infection from drools and dribbles left by other people. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:33:13 -0500 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> Reply-To: mschaef_ng@mschaef.com Organization: mschaef.com X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) From: mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) Originator: mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:33:13 -0500 Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.170.88.12 X-Trace: sv3-wkHH4IVERJRYmaZuTCYdjEryMU2CX/YN4MkSrO9aAvhxNs4ZiR9Q9mAUPBMMP9cKd32oVSlvfyr0cff!MPsoywHs7a5b5CN716inoSgprh4EwBoc+c+A1qZsfjG/5Md6zrZ5yGwXk1cnwzZB6ik= X-Complaints-To: abuse@io.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@io.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news-xfer.cox.net!peer02.cox.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.io.com!news.io.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148089 In article , wrote: >In article <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com>, ... >Nobody to hit. In Massachusetts' cities, given a choice between >using a sidewalk and the road, pedestrians will choose the road. >This is a common attitude problem fomented by those health nuts who >jog. That's not just Massachusetts. Whenever I visit my folks in Houston, I usually end up contending with several joggers that feel obligated to jog down the _middle_ of the road. This is despite the legally mandated four foot wide sidewalks on either side of the road. -Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com ###### From: oli@oli.is (Olafur Gunnlaugsson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 7 Aug 2003 11:42:18 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 14 Message-ID: <112d64c0.0308071042.2f825c47@posting.google.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> <1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.42.135.27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1060281738 19534 127.0.0.1 (7 Aug 2003 18:42:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Aug 2003 18:42:18 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148222 lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) wrote in message > > IIRC, same happened when a couple of enthusiasts set out to port > Braben's Elite to modern platforms: the routine to populate a galaxy was > a small piece of dense 6502 code, and not even Mr. Braben recalled how > it worked. The enthusiasts ended up writing a minimal 6502 emulator to > execute the routine. That cannot be true, he discussed that algorithm and the math behind it extensively in an interview given at the time. BTW what you old Elite fans think about the EVE-The Genesis, it was originally designed by mad Elite mans..... http://www.eve-online.com ###### From: oli@oli.is (Olafur Gunnlaugsson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 7 Aug 2003 11:46:24 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: <112d64c0.0308071046.52783b9d@posting.google.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.42.135.27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1060281985 19724 127.0.0.1 (7 Aug 2003 18:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Aug 2003 18:46:25 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148223 "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote in message news:<3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... > Toby Thain wrote: > > > You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman > > alphabet (what was it?) > > Correct. The NT was written in Greek. Windows NT ? That explains a lot......... ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: lon.stowell@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 39 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc01 1060283281 12.240.77.188 (Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:08:01 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:08:01 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:08:01 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc01.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148004 Approximately 8/7/03 04:10, jmfbahciv@aol.com uttered for posterity: > In article <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com>, > proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: >> wrote: >> >>> In article , >>> Ralf A. Quint wrote: >>> >On Tue, 05 Aug 03 11:06:29 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> >>4. My house shakes every time a truck passes by and the >>> >>windows shake when a certain guy with a gazillion amps in >>> >>his car drives by. >>> >> >>> >well, that would give the word "boom box" a complete new meaning.... >>> >;-))) >>> >>> That is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is >>> that I get my wish and the whole contraption, including the >>> deaf operator, goes "Boom!". There exists a set of parents >>> in this neighborhood who have a scheme to get rich quick. >>> They've bought their kids one of those thingies that puts >>> a motor on a scooter. The only way to detect that one is >>> coming down the street to to listen for a soft high whine. >>> It doesn't help that these kids ride these things down >>> the middle of the busy street where semis, dump trucks and >>> cars routinely go 10-15 MPH over the speed limit (35MPH). > >>They don't ride them on the sidewalk? > > Nobody to hit. In Massachusetts' cities, given a choice between > using a sidewalk and the road, pedestrians will choose the road. > This is a common attitude problem fomented by those health nuts who > jog. I believe this is now called the "Stephen King Syndrome". ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: lon.stowell@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Message-ID: <2uxYa.89621$uu5.13017@sccrnsc04> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1060283390 12.240.77.188 (Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:09:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:09:50 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:09:50 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148007 Approximately 8/7/03 10:33, MSCHAEF.COM uttered for posterity: > In article , wrote: >>In article <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com>, > ... >>Nobody to hit. In Massachusetts' cities, given a choice between >>using a sidewalk and the road, pedestrians will choose the road. >>This is a common attitude problem fomented by those health nuts who >>jog. > > That's not just Massachusetts. Whenever I visit my folks in Houston, I > usually end up contending with several joggers that feel obligated to jog > down the _middle_ of the road. This is despite the legally mandated four > foot wide sidewalks on either side of the road. Out in the more rural Texas areas, you just hit 'em, then bronze or chrome their bodies and mount them as hood ornaments. ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:42:54 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 21 Message-ID: <1fzc6gg.1wab7wq1y1hu0fN%proto@panix.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <112d64c0.0308071046.52783b9d@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1060303374 892 166.84.199.79 (8 Aug 2003 00:42:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 00:42:54 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!dca1-feed2.news.algx.net!allegiance!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148238 Olafur Gunnlaugsson wrote: > "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote in message news:<3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... > > Toby Thain wrote: > > > > > You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman > > > alphabet (what was it?) > > > > Correct. The NT was written in Greek. > > Windows NT ? > > That explains a lot......... No Windows was written in Pig Latin. -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: William Hamblen Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: <8gs5jvofuijqrvbqvgrmbol51e5mo8vgdv@4ax.com> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 00:59:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.80.154.211 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1060304395 216.80.154.211 (Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:59:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:59:55 EDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147987 On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:33:13 -0500, mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) wrote: >That's not just Massachusetts. Whenever I visit my folks in Houston, I >usually end up contending with several joggers that feel obligated to jog >down the _middle_ of the road. This is despite the legally mandated four >foot wide sidewalks on either side of the road. In the City of Belle Meade, which is a wealthy enclave in Nashville, Tennessee, cars are not allowed to use the center lanes of Belle Meade Boulevard because that is where the joggers are. Belle Meade has the highest per-capita income in the state, and only a few towns in the US are richer. The rich _are_ different, as F. Scott Fitzgerald once wrote. ###### From: lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:07:21 -0600 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <1fzc4r2.nrvqipeyaaf4N%lars@bearnip.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> <1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com> <112d64c0.0308071042.2f825c47@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.252.196.227 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1060304842 29993369 66.252.196.227 (16 [14293]) X-Orig-Path: lars User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b1 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!66.252.196.227!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148246 Olafur Gunnlaugsson wrote: > lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) wrote in message > > > > IIRC, same happened when a couple of enthusiasts set out to port > > Braben's Elite to modern platforms: the routine to populate a galaxy was > > a small piece of dense 6502 code, and not even Mr. Braben recalled how > > it worked. The enthusiasts ended up writing a minimal 6502 emulator to > > execute the routine. > > That cannot be true, he discussed that algorithm and the math behind > it extensively in an interview given at the time. Obviously I'm coming from an alternate past - "hot pants of time" and stuff. You don't happen to have a pointer to said interview? > BTW what you old Elite fans think about the EVE-The Genesis, it was > originally designed by mad Elite mans..... > http://www.eve-online.com It does look interesting - except that (as with almost all online games) you need a Windows-PC to play it. And spending 2k$ or more just to play a game... ###### From: "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:00:08 +0100 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3F3382B8.55145A98@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <112d64c0.0308071046.52783b9d@posting.google.com> <1fzc6gg.1wab7wq1y1hu0fN%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1060340771 11579 158.152.132.30 (8 Aug 2003 11:06:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:06:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!proxad.net!proxad.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!falstaff.tanglewood!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148166 Walter Bushell wrote: > No Windows was written in Pig Latin. ...and the pig got up and slowly walked away. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, author, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover. 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "It burned me from within. It quickened; I was with book as a woman is with child." CS Lewis - Till we have faces, Ch 21. ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:07:09 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <2uxYa.89621$uu5.13017@sccrnsc04> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-034.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148260 In article <2uxYa.89621$uu5.13017@sccrnsc04>, Lon Stowell wrote: > Out in the more rural Texas areas, you just hit 'em, then bronze or > chrome their bodies and mount them as hood ornaments. Oh, and register the 2 points. It's *Texas*. -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 19:15:07 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 08 Aug 2003 18:00:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0089.nas1-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1060365606 willi.euronet.nl 45373 62.234.208.89:1685 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!skynet.be!skynet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148196 On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: JC> Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never JC> encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. Not clear - it may be a symptom of brain damage. OTOH all that jarring vibration can't be good. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### Message-ID: <3F341545.36FA3D65@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1060370939 12.241.15.59 (Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:28:59 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:28:59 GMT Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:28:59 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148279 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > JC> Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never > JC> encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. > > Not clear - it may be a symptom of brain damage. OTOH all that > jarring vibration can't be good. > The jogger's poem: "You are old, father William," the young man said, "And your hair has become very white; And yet you incessantly stand on your head -- Do you think, at your age, it is right?" "In my youth," father William replied to his son, "I feared it would injure the brain; But now that I'm perfectly sure I have none, Why, I do it again and again." So one may also need to consider...that some joggers have *no* brain to injure in the first place... ;-) -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:51:19 -0500 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> Reply-To: mschaef_ng@mschaef.com Organization: mschaef.com X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) From: mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) Originator: mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:51:20 -0500 Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.170.88.12 X-Trace: sv3-pYnZdSjOI4cS2OQ7C4ic0nssDcdhJA3T8A4zesIDac1lIhvGk4YyG5+wW+9i4K29k0Ni5z+QV4jNI5u!+BaWHE+zxXSTDal0lYKcrh/g3wtQtO6m5HqJRCmHuNubcm8Ur/4XDtewxjjI1jQQQs0= X-Complaints-To: abuse@io.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@io.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.io.com!news.io.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148095 In article <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >JC> Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never >JC> encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. > > Not clear - it may be a symptom of brain damage. OTOH all that >jarring vibration can't be good. It's apparantly pretty hard on joints/bones in the legs for that reason. -Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:53:40 -0500 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mschaef_ng@mschaef.com Organization: mschaef.com X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) From: mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) Originator: mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:53:40 -0500 Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.170.88.12 X-Trace: sv3-TJdXzRSvYNT4vWZKz0b+8taK/7J54yOLRS0w8BWZlJ/ST83DW6OSl0XQ67uh5QZLtZjkzd6bU4NWrPJ!Gc5jY+R5mxnzNQWcA+I2XkBhS0TBDZT40NG8WfCNgu7NekIA9fI7xP+ygM9ncs1jvcE= X-Complaints-To: abuse@io.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@io.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.io.com!news.io.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148087 In article <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: >Toby Thain wrote: > >> You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman >> alphabet (what was it?) > >Correct. The NT was written in Greek. Isn't XP in Greek pretty close to Cairo? (Chi Rho, maybe :-) -Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com ###### From: Sam Seiber Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:48:04 -0600 Organization: There are no numbers in my e-mail addy Message-ID: <3F341A94.4A8@sbseiber.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> <1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com> <112d64c0.0308071042.2f825c47@posting.google.com> <1fzc4r2.nrvqipeyaaf4N%lars@bearnip.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!news.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147972 Lars Duening wrote: > It does look interesting - except that (as with almost all online games) > you need a Windows-PC to play it. And spending 2k$ or more just to play > a game... Well.....if it is a pinball machine, it is worth it, sometimes. Sam ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <112d64c0.0308071046.52783b9d@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 01:51:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1060393893 24.71.223.147 (Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:51:33 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:51:33 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news2.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148315 On 7 Aug 2003 11:46:24 -0700 in alt.folklore.computers, oli@oli.is (Olafur Gunnlaugsson) wrote: >"Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote in message news:<3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... >> Toby Thain wrote: >> >> > You seem to imply that the MSS in question were written in a non-Roman >> > alphabet (what was it?) >> >> Correct. The NT was written in Greek. > >Windows NT ? No, XP! >That explains a lot......... Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### From: lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:25:58 -0600 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <1fze9hn.1y7i30m1xqws16N%lars@bearnip.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> <1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com> <112d64c0.0308071042.2f825c47@posting.google.com> <1fzc4r2.nrvqipeyaaf4N%lars@bearnip.com> <3F341A94.4A8@sbseiber.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gw01-csv-co-27-88.rasserver.net (207.221.40.88) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1060406761 31058282 207.221.40.88 (16 [14293]) X-Orig-Path: lars User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b1 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!gw01-csv-co-27-88.rasserver.NET!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148236 Sam Seiber wrote: > Lars Duening wrote: > > It does look interesting - except that (as with almost all online games) > > you need a Windows-PC to play it. And spending 2k$ or more just to play > > a game... > > Well.....if it is a pinball machine, it is worth it, sometimes. True. And you wouldn't have to pay additional $20/month either. ...hmm, I _do_ have a lot of space in the basement - a pinball might actually be fun to have! ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 03:07:30 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> <1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com> <112d64c0.0308071042.2f825c47@posting.google.com> <1fzc4r2.nrvqipeyaaf4N%lars@bearnip.com> <3F341A94.4A8@sbseiber.com> <1fze9hn.1y7i30m1xqws16N%lars@bearnip.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-540.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!amsnews01.chello.com!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148257 In article <1fze9hn.1y7i30m1xqws16N%lars@bearnip.com>, lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) wrote: > ...hmm, I _do_ have a lot of space in the basement - a pinball might > actually be fun to have! See news:rec.games.pinball for all you'll need to know. -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 09:36:52 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: <20030809093652.715ee66e.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 25 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Aug 2003 07:43:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0947.nas1-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1060414994 maya.euronet.nl 148 62.234.211.184:1848 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news2.euro.net!postnews2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148193 On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:51:20 -0500 mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) wrote: MC> In article <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net>, MC> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: MC> >On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT MC> >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: MC> > MC> >JC> Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never MC> >JC> encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. MC> > MC> > Not clear - it may be a symptom of brain damage. OTOH all that MC> >jarring vibration can't be good. MC> MC> It's apparantly pretty hard on joints/bones in the legs for that MC> reason. Yep, and boxing has provided plenty of examples to indicate that jarring the brain does little to improve cognition. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: Dav Vandenbroucke Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:59:37 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.100.220.237 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: lakeread01 1060433781 68.100.220.237 (Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:56:21 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:56:21 EDT Organization: Cox Communications Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!news.astraweb.com!news-small.astraweb.com!cox.net!news-xfer.cox.net!p01!lakeread01.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148319 On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never >encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. Oh, gee. What a list one could make! Parents of small (holy) children? Nonsmokers? (I don't smoke either, but there are some people who seem to make a vocation of not smoking.) Dav Vandenbroucke dav_and_frances_vandenbroucke@compuserve.com ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 12:13:32 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 42 Message-ID: <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1060445611 8816 166.84.199.79 (9 Aug 2003 16:13:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 16:13:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed3.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!fi.sn.net!newsfeed2.fi.sn.net!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!colt.net!nycmny1-snf1.gtei.net!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148212 wrote: > In article , > Larry Elmore wrote: > > In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > > >> With this story and the nitro one, you guys have just made my day. > >> I have a father, who is more pig-headed than I am, and still doesn't > >> believe that DDT (insecticide) is bad. > > > >Depends on what you mean by "bad." In some ways, much of what replaced DDT > >was worse. > > Yup. He used that stuff, too. > > > ..Also, most of the problems with DDT were associated with > >incredible overspraying (under the theory that, "if a little's good, a lot > >must be better."). > > That's Dad's life philosophy. > > > ..Ironically, considering that it was the government that > >banned use of DDT, it was often government spraying programs that were by > >far the worst offenders (farmers have a real incentive to use as little as > >will get the job done, while agencies have a whole different set of > >priorities and incentives). > > > >Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks pretty "good." > > We didn't have malaria in Michigan. > > /BAH > > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population density is too high? -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 18:17:42 +0100 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3F352CB6.BE44D60A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1060496976 14648 158.152.132.30 (10 Aug 2003 06:29:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 06:29:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!213.253.16.105.MISMATCH!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!falstaff.tanglewood!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148173 Walter Bushell wrote: > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population > density is too high? Perhaps. Certainly politicians are God's way of telling us that our population is too dense, which isn't quite the same thing. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, author, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover. 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "It burned me from within. It quickened; I was with book as a woman is with child." CS Lewis - Till we have faces, Ch 21. ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 13:52:13 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <1fzfccc.1sebffyux8n5cN%proto@panix.com> References: <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1060451533 10378 166.84.199.79 (9 Aug 2003 17:52:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 17:52:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.linkpendium.com!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148253 Dav Vandenbroucke wrote: > On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > >Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never > >encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. > > Oh, gee. What a list one could make! Parents of small (holy) > children? Nonsmokers? (I don't smoke either, but there are some > people who seem to make a vocation of not smoking.) > > > Dav Vandenbroucke > dav_and_frances_vandenbroucke@compuserve.com What about the people who make a vocation of smoking? -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 12:35:32 -0600 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <1fzf5gk.lhdbau12mjlx6N%lars@bearnip.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298BD2.B1C39D54@ev1.net> <1fyyyty.1r0nejp1seno9nN%lars@bearnip.com> <112d64c0.0308071042.2f825c47@posting.google.com> <1fzc4r2.nrvqipeyaaf4N%lars@bearnip.com> <3F341A94.4A8@sbseiber.com> <1fze9hn.1y7i30m1xqws16N%lars@bearnip.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gw01-csv-co-19-95.rasserver.net (207.221.53.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1060454134 31546952 207.221.53.95 (16 [14293]) X-Orig-Path: lars User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b1 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!gw01-csv-co-19-95.rasserver.NET!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148258 Howard S Shubs wrote: > In article <1fze9hn.1y7i30m1xqws16N%lars@bearnip.com>, > lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) wrote: > > > ...hmm, I _do_ have a lot of space in the basement - a pinball might > > actually be fun to have! > > See news:rec.games.pinball for all you'll need to know. Good idea - thanks! ###### From: "Keith F. Lynch" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 9 Aug 2003 14:55:19 -0400 Organization: United Individualist Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1060455319 11340 166.84.1.2 (9 Aug 2003 18:55:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!panix!panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148051 MSCHAEF.COM wrote: > That's not just Massachusetts. Whenever I visit my folks in Houston, > I usually end up contending with several joggers that feel obligated > to jog down the _middle_ of the road. This is despite the legally > mandated four foot wide sidewalks on either side of the road. Sidewalks? Those are for storing garbage cans and yard waste, for parking cars across, for plowing snow onto, and for riding bikes on. And plenty of roads don't have them anyway. Or if they do have them, it's only one one side, and the side keeps changing. Walking on them doesn't sound very practical. -- Keith F. Lynch - kfl@keithlynch.net - http://keithlynch.net/ I always welcome replies to my e-mail, postings, and web pages, but unsolicited bulk e-mail (spam) is not acceptable. Please do not send me HTML, "rich text," or attachments, as all such email is discarded unread. ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 16:13:26 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-122.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148244 In article <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com>, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population > density is too high? Then why was it much worse in the past? VERY poor argument on your part. -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 21:57:12 -0500 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> Reply-To: mschaef_ng@mschaef.com Organization: mschaef.com X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) From: mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) Originator: mschaef@io.com (MSCHAEF.COM) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 21:57:12 -0500 Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.170.88.11 X-Trace: sv3-P5qXI7yYozoqVUjbkhlOW6o4EFcfF7VCNoNz47LAUNuV5XXmoDvh+PM0f4d/T6pwQc9wlXoDb8AM5BL!mU3Qv1cghYTbzwV1FDfTx7RBtptm48QIJFXlmSoU5IElYez7vQ8MWuHElHmJiVFzhOE= X-Complaints-To: abuse@io.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@io.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.io.com!news.io.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148088 In article , Keith F. Lynch wrote: >MSCHAEF.COM wrote: >> That's not just Massachusetts. Whenever I visit my folks in Houston, >> I usually end up contending with several joggers that feel obligated >> to jog down the _middle_ of the road. This is despite the legally >> mandated four foot wide sidewalks on either side of the road. > >Sidewalks? Those are ... for plowing snow onto, In _Houston_??? They've had maybe an inch of snow/ice in the last 30 years. >And plenty of roads don't have them anyway. Or if they do have them, >it's only one one side, and the side keeps changing. This particular village within Houston has _mandated_ that every new house have a four foot wide sidewalk in front. Before that, they mandated a three foot wide sidewalk. Trust me, the sidewalks are there, and on both sides of the road. The only serious obstacle to using them is that the older sidewalks have been torn up by roots. Even then, most of the older sidewalks have been replaced over the last 20 years as the houses have been updated/replaced. -Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com ###### Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 07:42:59 +0200 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: <20030810074259.45f9d541.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Organization: Wanadoo NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Aug 2003 07:38:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: p0832.nas3-asd6.dial.wanadoo.nl X-Trace: 1060501112 maya.euronet.nl 153 62.234.219.69:1939 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsfeed.bit.nl!newsfeed.bit.nl!news2.euro.net!postnews1.euro.net!news.wanadoo.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148183 On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 16:13:26 -0400 Howard S Shubs wrote: HSS> In article <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com>, HSS> proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: HSS> HSS> > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population HSS> > density is too high? HSS> HSS> Then why was it much worse in the past? VERY poor argument on your HSS> part. There's nothing wrong with the premise - as long as you are happy with the corollary that medicine is the work of the devil and the CDC is a Satanist headquarters. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ ###### From: wallacethinmintr@eircom.net (Russell Wallace) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: <3f35e8d1.100794719@news.eircom.net> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 13 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 06:40:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 159.134.104.149 X-Complaints-To: abuse@eircom.net X-Trace: news.indigo.ie 1060497544 159.134.104.149 (Sun, 10 Aug 2003 07:39:04 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 07:39:04 BST Organization: Eircom.Net http://www.eircom.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.f.de.plusline.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.indigo.ie!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148097 On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 12:13:32 -0400, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: >Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population >density is too high? Are you volunteering to leave? -- "Sore wa himitsu desu." To reply by email, remove the small snack from address. http://www.esatclear.ie/~rwallace ###### Message-ID: <3F36AEF8.746E66CE@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1060541359 12.241.15.59 (Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:49:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:49:19 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:49:19 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148299 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com>, > proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: > > > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > > > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population > > density is too high? > > According to my mother, it means I didn't wash my hands. > You mean that because you didn't wash your hands...the population density increased??? ;-) -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:25:32 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f369f8c.11129583@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> <3F36AEF8.746E66CE@ev1.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 27 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148018 Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com>, >> proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: >> > >> > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] >> > >> > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population >> > density is too high? >> >> According to my mother, it means I didn't wash my hands. >> >You mean that because you didn't wash your hands...the >population density increased??? ;-) Conclusion: Barb is not a doctor. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:21:08 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 57 Message-ID: <1fzhjhs.1vdcf7g1o7fcbfN%proto@panix.com> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1060557669 7139 166.84.199.79 (10 Aug 2003 23:21:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:21:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148265 wrote: > In article <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com>, > proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: > > wrote: > > > >> In article , > >> Larry Elmore wrote: > >> > In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> > > >> >> With this story and the nitro one, you guys have just made my day. > >> >> I have a father, who is more pig-headed than I am, and still doesn't > >> >> believe that DDT (insecticide) is bad. > >> > > >> >Depends on what you mean by "bad." In some ways, much of what replaced > DDT > >> >was worse. > >> > >> Yup. He used that stuff, too. > >> > >> > ..Also, most of the problems with DDT were associated with > >> >incredible overspraying (under the theory that, "if a little's good, a > lot > >> >must be better."). > >> > >> That's Dad's life philosophy. > >> > >> > ..Ironically, considering that it was the government that > >> >banned use of DDT, it was often government spraying programs that were > by > >> >far the worst offenders (farmers have a real incentive to use as little > as > >> >will get the job done, while agencies have a whole different set of > >> >priorities and incentives). > >> > > >> >Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks pretty "good." > >> > >> We didn't have malaria in Michigan. > > >Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population > >density is too high? > > According to my mother, it means I didn't wash my hands. > > /BAH > > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Actually that is one of the top things to do to avoid general infections. In fact getting a doctor who washes his hands is better, but harder. But try avoiding the doorknob in restrooms, they are probably filhty from people who don't wash their hands. -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### Message-ID: <3F36E9B9.6067F676@yahoo.com> From: CBFalconer Reply-To: cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net Organization: Ched Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> <1fzhjhs.1vdcf7g1o7fcbfN%proto@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 25 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:00:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.90.167.132 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1060563655 12.90.167.132 (Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:00:55 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:00:55 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:147970 Walter Bushell wrote: > wrote: > ... snip ... > > > > According to my mother, it means I didn't wash my hands. > > Actually that is one of the top things to do to avoid general > infections. In fact getting a doctor who washes his hands is > better, but harder. But try avoiding the doorknob in restrooms, > they are probably filhty from people who don't wash their hands. You want to use restrooms that have a waste can near the door, and supply paper towels. Then the final step is to open the door with the towel, pitch the towel in the can, and scurry out. If they only supply the electric heater variety (an evil practice), unroll massive quantities of toilet paper for the purpose. You might also mark the wall with an indelible pencil, something to the effect of "Engineering proposed location for towel dispenser". -- Chuck F (cbfalconer@yahoo.com) (cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. USE worldnet address! ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:30:57 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <1fzhxli.118ervzoihyklN%proto@panix.com> References: <1fyahb6.14sg0or1mo5xa8N%proto@panix.com> <3F1867F1.BBC56DA8@ev1.net> <3F185C65.4058007E@cisco.com> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> <1fzhjhs.1vdcf7g1o7fcbfN%proto@panix.com> <3F36E9B9.6067F676@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1060572658 11306 166.84.199.79 (11 Aug 2003 03:30:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:30:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!dca1-feed2.news.algx.net!allegiance!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148271 CBFalconer wrote: > Walter Bushell wrote: > > wrote: > > > ... snip ... > > > > > > According to my mother, it means I didn't wash my hands. > > > > Actually that is one of the top things to do to avoid general > > infections. In fact getting a doctor who washes his hands is > > better, but harder. But try avoiding the doorknob in restrooms, > > they are probably filhty from people who don't wash their hands. > > You want to use restrooms that have a waste can near the door, and > supply paper towels. Then the final step is to open the door with > the towel, pitch the towel in the can, and scurry out. Yes. > If they > only supply the electric heater variety (an evil practice), unroll > massive quantities of toilet paper for the purpose. You might > also mark the wall with an indelible pencil, something to the > effect of "Engineering proposed location for towel dispenser". Or carry kelenx. -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 03 11:45:19 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZqZFdJWCQXBsWE0+96qEEQO4zFfHe/7sYeCYdkdvQSOb246nMvOcpw X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Aug 2003 12:48:33 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.222.21.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-28 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148023 In article , Larry Elmore wrote: > In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> With this story and the nitro one, you guys have just made my day. >> I have a father, who is more pig-headed than I am, and still doesn't >> believe that DDT (insecticide) is bad. > >Depends on what you mean by "bad." In some ways, much of what replaced DDT >was worse. Yup. He used that stuff, too. > ..Also, most of the problems with DDT were associated with >incredible overspraying (under the theory that, "if a little's good, a lot >must be better."). That's Dad's life philosophy. > ..Ironically, considering that it was the government that >banned use of DDT, it was often government spraying programs that were by >far the worst offenders (farmers have a real incentive to use as little as >will get the job done, while agencies have a whole different set of >priorities and incentives). > >Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks pretty "good." We didn't have malaria in Michigan. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: Larry Elmore Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <3F2F1C0B.3C7A64E1@computer.org> <78jrgb.ufi.ln@escape.shannon.net> Lines: 18 User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.120.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1060287314 12.237.120.43 (Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:15:14 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:15:14 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:15:14 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148001 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > With this story and the nitro one, you guys have just made my day. > I have a father, who is more pig-headed than I am, and still doesn't > believe that DDT (insecticide) is bad. Depends on what you mean by "bad." In some ways, much of what replaced DDT was worse. Also, most of the problems with DDT were associated with incredible overspraying (under the theory that, "if a little's good, a lot must be better."). Ironically, considering that it was the government that banned use of DDT, it was often government spraying programs that were by far the worst offenders (farmers have a real incentive to use as little as will get the job done, while agencies have a whole different set of priorities and incentives). Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks pretty "good." --Larry ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever (Was humour) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1060360768 45064 146.186.61.46 (8 Aug 2003 16:39:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:39:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148043 In article <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote: >Charles Richmond wrote: >> Since "King" refers to Christ, it should be capitalized... >> do your macroes do that? >I was following the capitalisation of Matt 2:2 - in the original Greek, >not translation.[1] :=*) >However as this causes compatibility problems for some users I'll fix it >in the next release. Hmm, that would be a reasonable way to describe Christmas :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: Julian Thomas Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:51:02 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f396f61$2$wg$mr2ice@news.fltg.net> References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2AB338.5D00B360@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2C38AD.11A7D314@ev1.net> <3F2C3E22.EDE0D99A@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F2D76E0.3AEB4AD0@ev1.net> <3F2E12C5.2BB3BEC5@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <1fz5ox6.opwco0pif5l1N%proto@panix.com> <3F2FC559.8570EFF2@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <112d64c0.0308071046.52783b9d@posting.google.com> <1fzc6gg.1wab7wq1y1hu0fN%proto@panix.com> <3F3382B8.55145A98@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Newsreader: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.37/37 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 20 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148476 In <3F3382B8.55145A98@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, on 08/08/03 at 12:00 PM, "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" may have used oatmeal boxes, old string, and new, used, and recycled electrons to say (at least in part): >> No Windows was written in Pig Latin. >....and the pig got up and slowly walked away. Good one! -- Julian Thomas: jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- "Windows - a hairball of software" - Scott McNealy - Sun Microsystems ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1060790942 50696 146.186.61.46 (13 Aug 2003 16:09:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:09:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148468 In article <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >JC> Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never >JC> encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. > Not clear - it may be a symptom of brain damage. OTOH all that >jarring vibration can't be good. Much like the question about ditzes and died blonde hair: is it that ditzes are more likely to bleach their hair, or that the chemicals cause brain damage? hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1060791128 50696 146.186.61.46 (13 Aug 2003 16:12:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:12:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cyclone.bc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148465 In article <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com>, Walter Bushell wrote: > wrote: >> >Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks pretty "good." >> We didn't have malaria in Michigan. >Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population >density is too high? Nope. It's His way of telling us there's not enough antibiotics in our poultry :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <3F36AEF8.746E66CE@ev1.net> <3f369f8c.11129583@news.ocis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1060791492 50696 146.186.61.46 (13 Aug 2003 16:18:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:18:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148462 In article <3f369f8c.11129583@news.ocis.net>, Gene Wirchenko wrote: >Charles Richmond wrote: >>> > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our population >>> > density is too high? >>> According to my mother, it means I didn't wash my hands. >>You mean that because you didn't wash your hands...the >>population density increased??? ;-) > Conclusion: Barb is not a doctor. Yeah, delivering babies with unwashed hands decreases population density . . . hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 14 Aug 03 09:53:04 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVa/9cVlqFqJLhkaHkI4Bx2T8RDvXOgN3ZloUcVcfH725mEYC/GpjPex X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Aug 2003 10:57:20 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-225 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148521 In article , hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >In article <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net>, >Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT >>jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>JC> Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never >>JC> encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. > >> Not clear - it may be a symptom of brain damage. OTOH all that >>jarring vibration can't be good. > >Much like the question about ditzes and died blonde hair: is it that >ditzes are more likely to bleach their hair, or that the chemicals cause >brain damage? They know those chemicals cause non-thinking in the opposite sex. That's why they dye their hair. From: CBFalconer Reply-To: cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net Organization: Ched Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 25 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 03:16:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.90.169.170 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1060830982 12.90.169.170 (Thu, 14 Aug 2003 03:16:22 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 03:16:22 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148510 "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" wrote: > Walter Bushell wrote: > > wrote: > > >> > Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks > >> > pretty "good." > > >> We didn't have malaria in Michigan. > > > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our > > population density is too high? > > Nope. It's His way of telling us there's not enough antibiotics > in our poultry :) Don't you realize that unbridled use of antibiotics is the primary cause of untreatable tuberculosis, which is becoming endemic in many places. This also applies to other diseases. -- Chuck F (cbfalconer@yahoo.com) (cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. USE worldnet address! ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> <3F3AD95C.46418E7B@yahoo.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 04:18:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1060834727 24.71.223.147 (Wed, 13 Aug 2003 22:18:47 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 22:18:47 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news2.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148535 On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 03:16:22 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, CBFalconer wrote: >"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" wrote: >> Walter Bushell wrote: >> > wrote: >> >> >> > Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks >> >> > pretty "good." >> >> >> We didn't have malaria in Michigan. >> >> > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our >> > population density is too high? >> >> Nope. It's His way of telling us there's not enough antibiotics >> in our poultry :) > >Don't you realize that unbridled use of antibiotics is the primary >cause of untreatable tuberculosis, which is becoming endemic in >many places. This also applies to other diseases. I think he implied that at the end of the sentence :) [engage irony / sarcasm detector when reading Hawk's posts] Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply ###### Sender: gregm@europa.pienet Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> From: Greg Menke Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 14 Aug 2003 08:06:34 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.33.158.68 X-Complaints-To: abuse@toad.net X-Trace: news.abs.net 1060862796 162.33.158.68 (Thu, 14 Aug 2003 08:06:36 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 08:06:36 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.abs.net!news.abs.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148523 jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > In article , > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: > >In article <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net>, > >Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >>On Fri, 08 Aug 03 10:17:55 GMT > >>jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > > >>JC> Aha! That settles it. Jogging is brain damaging. I've never > >>JC> encountered more arrogance in any other class of people. > > > >> Not clear - it may be a symptom of brain damage. OTOH all that > >>jarring vibration can't be good. > > > >Much like the question about ditzes and died blonde hair: is it that > >ditzes are more likely to bleach their hair, or that the chemicals cause > >brain damage? > > They know those chemicals cause non-thinking in the opposite > sex. That's why they dye their hair. > > References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F3AD95C.46418E7B@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1060870081 52496 146.186.61.46 (14 Aug 2003 14:08:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:08:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148516 In article , Brian Inglis wrote: >On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 03:16:22 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, >CBFalconer wrote: > >>"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" wrote: >>> > Aren't contageous diseases God's way of telling us our >>> > population density is too high? >>> Nope. It's His way of telling us there's not enough antibiotics >>> in our poultry :) >>Don't you realize that unbridled use of antibiotics is the primary >>cause of untreatable tuberculosis, which is becoming endemic in >>many places. This also applies to other diseases. >I think he implied that at the end of the sentence :) >[engage irony / sarcasm detector when reading Hawk's posts] who? me? :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:19:35 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f3bd100.6024287@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3F3AD95C.46418E7B@yahoo.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 35 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148546 hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >In article , >Brian Inglis wrote: [snip] >>I think he implied that at the end of the sentence :) >>[engage irony / sarcasm detector when reading Hawk's posts] > >who? me? > >:) BANG! >hawk ^^^^ >-- >Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign >dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail ^^^^ >These opinions will not be those of X and postings. >Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ Hmm, tastes like chicken. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd Lines: 25 Message-ID: <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 1060890704 12597 10.0.0.1 (14 Aug 2003 19:51:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:51:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: from dsl.demon.co.uk ([158.152.92.150]) by news.demon.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nO8N-0003H2-00 for mail2news@news.demon.co.uk; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:51:43 +0000 X-Path: dsl.co.uk!bhk X-To: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk X-Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.31 X-Lines: 24 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!colt.net!kibo.news.demon.net!mutlu.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!bhk Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148565 [Note crosspost] In article hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: > Much like the question about ditzes and died blonde hair: is it that > ditzes are more likely to bleach their hair, or that the chemicals cause > brain damage? Ignoring (for the moment) the "died" vs "dyed" problem. I'm responding because I genuinely want to understand why Norte Americanos have "ditzy blondes" whereas in the UK we have "dizzy blondes". My personal (totally without any real foundation) theory is that originally they had "dizzy" blondes in the USA as well, but that large numbers of immigrants, for whom English was not their Mother Tongue, misread the 'z' and interpreted it in either (or both) Italian or German as /tz/. Or is "ditzy" a completely separate word from "dizzy"? -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We can no longer stand apart from Europe if we would. Yet we are untrained to mix with our neighbours, or even talk to them". George Macaulay Trevelyan, 1919 ###### Message-ID: <3F3C07DF.BF4DD376@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1060891800 12.241.15.59 (Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:10:00 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:10:00 GMT Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:10:00 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148564 Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > Or is "ditzy" a completely separate word from "dizzy"? > Yes, "ditzy" is a completely separate word from "dizzy". The two are synonyms, according to my dictionary. "Ditzy" means "eccentrically silly, giddy, or inane". -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 14 Aug 03 15:53:18 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 30 Message-ID: <1108.356T919T9534068@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-321.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!carbon.eu.sun.com!btnet-feed5!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148592 In article gregm-news@toadmail.com (Greg Menke) writes: >jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >> In article , >> hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >> >>> Much like the question about ditzes and died blonde hair: is it >>> that ditzes are more likely to bleach their hair, or that the >>> chemicals cause brain damage? >> >> They know those chemicals cause non-thinking in the opposite >> sex. That's why they dye their hair. >> >> > I don't think its the chemicals, its just they can get whatever > they want by coy looks and flirting, so never have to develop any > intelligence. I imagine the hair color is a stragegy to maximize > the effect. This thread is coming more and more on-topic all the time. 1/2 :-) -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: Giles Todd Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:37:59 +0200 Reply-To: g@todd.nu Message-ID: <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:sJ/23CEJqrZXHsMI/C+hqEdyzyw= References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NFilter: 1.2.1-b1 Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Aug 2003 01:38:08 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.127.198.243 X-Trace: 1060904288 news.xs4all.nl 49114 80.127.198.243:4698 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!transit.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148616 On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:51:44 +0000 (UTC), bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) wrote: > Or is "ditzy" a completely separate word from "dizzy"? OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin unknown. Three meanings given: the first that it is a possible corruption of 'dicty' with a citation from 1926, the second that it means 'fussy' or 'intricate' with a citation from 1978, and the third saying '(Esp. of a woman) stupid, scatterbrained; cute' with the first citation dated 1980. The citations for 'dizzy' start in the ninth century, and the entry is accompanied by a detailed etymology from various Germanic languages. Giles. ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1060906829 9794 146.186.61.46 (15 Aug 2003 00:20:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:20:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148575 In article <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com>, Giles Todd wrote: >On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:51:44 +0000 (UTC), bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian >{Hamilton Kelly}) wrote: >> Or is "ditzy" a completely separate word from "dizzy"? >OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', >and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin >unknown. Now that surprised me. I always assumed that ditzy was an adaptation of the noun, used because it sounds so much like "dizzy" . . . hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. 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Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: William Hamblen Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> <3F3AD95C.46418E7B@yahoo.com> Organization: Utterly Disorganized User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 04:44:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.80.159.124 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net 1060922695 216.80.159.124 (Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:44:55 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:44:55 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148582 In article <3F3AD95C.46418E7B@yahoo.com>, CBFalconer wrote: > Don't you realize that unbridled use of antibiotics is the primary > cause of untreatable tuberculosis, which is becoming endemic in > many places. This also applies to other diseases. Overprescribing doesn't have much effect on drug resistant TB, as the broad spectrum antibiotics that some doctors hand out plentifully are ineffective on TB in the first place. Drug resistant TB mainly comes from patient noncompliance. The real problem with drug resistant bugs is staph. Staph infections are common. Penicillin used to stop them cold, but penicillin resistant strains have evolved quickly. We may return to the state of things before 1940, when a boil could be a source of terror. My own grandfather nicked his thumb while whittling a willow whistle for one of his younger children and developed an infection (partly because the old man was too stubborn to stop what he was doing and scrub out the wound with soap and water). Part of that thumb had to be amputated and it took a year to heal. This was about 1930. ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: William Hamblen Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> Organization: Utterly Disorganized User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 12 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 05:45:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.80.156.157 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1060926348 216.80.156.157 (Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:45:48 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:45:48 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!nycmny1-snf1.gtei.net!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148576 In article <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk>, Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > Ignoring (for the moment) the "died" vs "dyed" problem. I'm responding > because I genuinely want to understand why Norte Americanos have "ditzy > blondes" whereas in the UK we have "dizzy blondes". My personal (totally > without any real foundation) theory is that originally they had "dizzy" > blondes in the USA as well, but that large numbers of immigrants, for > whom English was not their Mother Tongue, misread the 'z' and interpreted > it in either (or both) Italian or German as /tz/. Think yiddish. ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:50:08 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 28 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148574 hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >In article <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com>, >Giles Todd wrote: >>On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:51:44 +0000 (UTC), bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian >>{Hamilton Kelly}) wrote: > > > >>> Or is "ditzy" a completely separate word from "dizzy"? > >>OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', >>and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin >>unknown. > >Now that surprised me. I always assumed that ditzy was an adaptation of >the noun, used because it sounds so much like "dizzy" . . . That is why the term is "back-formation". Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1060965265 39574 146.186.61.46 (15 Aug 2003 16:34:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:34:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148579 In article <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net>, Gene Wirchenko wrote: >hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: > >>In article <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com>, >>Giles Todd wrote: >>>OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', >>>and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin >>>unknown. >>Now that surprised me. I always assumed that ditzy was an adaptation of >>the noun, used because it sounds so much like "dizzy" . . . > That is why the term is "back-formation". Yes, I just assumed that the back-formation had been in the opposite direction. hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:11:05 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f3d2f43.4709616@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 38 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148619 hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >In article <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net>, >Gene Wirchenko wrote: >>hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >> >>>In article <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com>, >>>Giles Todd wrote: > >>>>OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', >>>>and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin >>>>unknown. > >>>Now that surprised me. I always assumed that ditzy was an adaptation of >>>the noun, used because it sounds so much like "dizzy" . . . > >> That is why the term is "back-formation". > >Yes, I just assumed that the back-formation had been in the opposite >direction. You may be missing the point. "A is a back-formation of B." means that A is derived from B, but that for some reason, one would have expected B to have been derived from A. The classic example is burgle and burglar. "burgle" derives from "burglar" not the other way around. The other way around is what one would expect (since adding the -er morpheme is a more likely change. My apology if you did get it and I am the one who missed. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### Message-ID: <3F3D8562.C5487322@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc02 1060989468 12.241.15.59 (Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:17:48 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:17:48 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:17:48 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!attla2!ip.att.net!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148646 Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: > > >In article <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com>, > >Giles Todd wrote: > >>On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:51:44 +0000 (UTC), bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian > >>{Hamilton Kelly}) wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Or is "ditzy" a completely separate word from "dizzy"? > > > >>OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', > >>and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin > >>unknown. > > > >Now that surprised me. I always assumed that ditzy was an adaptation of > >the noun, used because it sounds so much like "dizzy" . . . > > That is why the term is "back-formation". > Still, the dictionary that I consulted (and apparently also the OED) say that the origin of "ditzy" is unknown. So maybe it derived from dizzy...maybe *not*. The etymologists can *not* say for sure. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Message-ID: <3F3D8797.47B77911@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> <3f3d2f43.4709616@news.ocis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1060990033 12.241.15.59 (Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:27:13 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:27:13 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:27:13 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148647 Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > You may be missing the point. "A is a back-formation of B." > means that A is derived from B, but that for some reason, one would > have expected B to have been derived from A. The classic example is > burgle and burglar. "burgle" derives from "burglar" not the other way > around. The other way around is what one would expect (since adding > the -er morpheme is a more likely change. > The word "burgle" sounds like it *should* mean: "to choke on a thick liquid". I have always thought that "misogynist" should be "a person that gives massages". I know all about the Greek roots...but the sound of the word suggests what *I* said. Now, a "masseuse" sounds to me like "a thick chocolate desert"... you know, like a "chocolate masseuse" instead of a "chocolate mousse". (And please don't confuse a "misogynist" with a "misogamist"... or a "musicologist" with a "museologist".) -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 16 Aug 03 14:47:57 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 26 Message-ID: <919.358T2893T8876310@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> <3F3D8562.C5487322@ev1.net> <816tjvccujp7ok5sgoa8r056fv0405mia7@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-242.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148703 In article <816tjvccujp7ok5sgoa8r056fv0405mia7@4ax.com> g@prullenbak.todd.nu (Giles Todd) writes: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:17:48 GMT, Charles Richmond > wrote: > >> So maybe it >> derived from dizzy...maybe *not*. The etymologists can *not* >> say for sure. > > Maybe there were two etymologists at work, one on 'ditsy' and the > other on 'dizzy', and they didn't speak to each other. I've had a > closer look at the entry for dizzy and found this: > > 3. a. Mentally unsteady or in a whirl; b. Wanting moral stability, > giddy. Just to further muddy the waters, a similar phrase we sometimes use is "spinny". But since spinning makes you dizzy... -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: Giles Todd Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 23:03:36 +0200 Reply-To: g@todd.nu Message-ID: <816tjvccujp7ok5sgoa8r056fv0405mia7@4ax.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ma28FJBQSiJSk33V6wOhLJfYYkA= References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> <3F3D8562.C5487322@ev1.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-NFilter: 1.2.1-b1 Lines: 82 NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Aug 2003 23:03:44 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.127.198.243 X-Trace: 1061067824 news.xs4all.nl 49103 80.127.198.243:1083 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!transit.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148732 On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:17:48 GMT, Charles Richmond wrote: > Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > > > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: > > > > >In article <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com>, > > >Giles Todd wrote: > > >>On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:51:44 +0000 (UTC), bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian > > >>{Hamilton Kelly}) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Or is "ditzy" a completely separate word from "dizzy"? > > > > > >>OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', > > >>and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin > > >>unknown. > > > > > >Now that surprised me. I always assumed that ditzy was an adaptation of > > >the noun, used because it sounds so much like "dizzy" . . . > > > > That is why the term is "back-formation". > > > Still, the dictionary that I consulted (and apparently also the > OED) say that the origin of "ditzy" is unknown. So does my edition (Second Edition, published 1989, with the Additions series, published 1993 to 1997). Look at the bit you quote where I report that it says 'US slang, origin unknown'. > So maybe it > derived from dizzy...maybe *not*. The etymologists can *not* > say for sure. Maybe there were two etymologists at work, one on 'ditsy' and the other on 'dizzy', and they didn't speak to each other. I've had a closer look at the entry for dizzy and found this: 3. a. Mentally unsteady or in a whirl; b. Wanting moral stability, giddy. 1501 Douglas Pal. Hon. Prol. 101 My desie heid quhome laik of brane gart vary. 1599 Broughton's Lett. ii. 9 Meere buzzings of your owne conceited dizzie braine. 1671 Milton P.R. ii. 420 At thy heels the dizzy multitude. 1780 Cowper Table Talk 607 He+dizzy with delight, profaned the sacred wires. 1875 Jowett Plato (ed. 2) I. 61 My head is dizzy with thinking of the argument. 1878 J. H. Beadle Western Wilds xxxv, Dance houses and saloons multiplied and ‘dizzy doves’ gave an air of abandon to the streets. 1879 G. F. Jackson Shropsh. Word-bk., Duzzy, stupid; confused. ‘I'm mighty duzzy this morning.’ 1888 Texas Siftings 29 Sept. (Farmer), Professional beauties or maidens, commonly called dizzy blondes. 1889 Kansas Times & Star 4 Nov., Many of the local clergy last night warned the church members+against a ‘Dizzy Blonde’ company coming to one of the theaters soon. 1938 G. Heyer Blunt Instrument ix. 166 The dizzy blonde herself. 1945 [see dog n.1 17q]. The later US citations seem to be awfully close to the meaning of 'ditzy', citations for which with the meaning in which we are interested start in 1980. Perhaps the words are not so separate after all. For the sake of completeness, here are the 'ditsy'/'ditzy' citations: 1980 Maledicta III. ii. 245 In this new age of the New Woman, the only old-fashioned girl left may be the drag queen who apes a ditzy, decorative female largely obsolete, much as Mae West (darling of female impersonators) recalls the woman of a past time. 1981 Time 12 Jan. 45/1 Bob Newhart plays the President of the United States: Madeline Kahn is his dipso wife, Gilda Radner his ditsy daughter. 1982 Christian Science Monitor 26 Mar. 15/1 It is filled with charmingly ‘dotty’ and ‘ditsy’ people who engage in generally ‘gaga’ relationships. 1984 Washington Post 20 May h13/1 Willie Scott+is a ditsy blond who sings at a Shanghai nightclub. 1985 N.Y. Times 31 Jan. a22/2 According to a wholly unscientific sample, this decade's terms [for ‘dumb’] so far include, besides airhead, retard, ditsy and wifty. 1987 Los Angeles Times 7 June 16 What do father and daughter think of television's flashy detectives? Maddie and David on ‘Moonlighting’: ‘They never work. They're ditzy.’ Giles. ###### Message-ID: <3F3F2740.F0C5605E@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <1060818335snz@dsl.co.uk> <9n6ojvc8abpugj7qq5oi2p92qno8qorbq9@4ax.com> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> <3F3D8562.C5487322@ev1.net> <816tjvccujp7ok5sgoa8r056fv0405mia7@4ax.com> <919.358T2893T8876310@kltpzyxm.invalid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc01 1061096443 12.241.15.59 (Sun, 17 Aug 2003 05:00:43 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 05:00:43 GMT Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 05:00:43 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc01.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148740 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > In article <816tjvccujp7ok5sgoa8r056fv0405mia7@4ax.com> > g@prullenbak.todd.nu (Giles Todd) writes: > > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:17:48 GMT, Charles Richmond > > wrote: > > > >> So maybe it > >> derived from dizzy...maybe *not*. The etymologists can *not* > >> say for sure. > > > > Maybe there were two etymologists at work, one on 'ditsy' and the > > other on 'dizzy', and they didn't speak to each other. I've had a > > closer look at the entry for dizzy and found this: > > > > 3. a. Mentally unsteady or in a whirl; b. Wanting moral stability, > > giddy. > > Just to further muddy the waters, a similar phrase we sometimes use > is "spinny". But since spinning makes you dizzy... > I have *never* heard of the word "spinny"...used this way or any other way. Are you from Canada, the Pacific Northwest, or the Northeast??? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> <3f3d2f43.4709616@news.ocis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1061220151 28842 146.186.61.46 (18 Aug 2003 15:22:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:22:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148818 In article <3f3d2f43.4709616@news.ocis.net>, Gene Wirchenko wrote: >hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >>>>>OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', >>>>>and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin >>>>>unknown. >>>>Now that surprised me. I always assumed that ditzy was an adaptation of >>>>the noun, used because it sounds so much like "dizzy" . . . >>> That is why the term is "back-formation". >>Yes, I just assumed that the back-formation had been in the opposite >>direction. > > You may be missing the point. "A is a back-formation of B." >means that A is derived from B, but that for some reason, one would >have expected B to have been derived from A. so ditz as a backformation of ditzy means that ditz is derived from ditzy. I had always assumed the other direction (ditzy as the adaptation). > My apology if you did get it and I am the one who missed. I think you missed, but there are so many flops back and forth here . . . :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:40:03 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f412266.8039180@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> <3f3d2f43.4709616@news.ocis.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 45 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148833 hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >In article <3f3d2f43.4709616@news.ocis.net>, >Gene Wirchenko wrote: >>hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: > >>>>>>OED2 says yes, with 'ditzy' being an alternative spelling for 'ditsy', >>>>>>and 'ditz' being a backformation from 'ditzy'. US slang, origin >>>>>>unknown. > >>>>>Now that surprised me. I always assumed that ditzy was an adaptation of >>>>>the noun, used because it sounds so much like "dizzy" . . . > >>>> That is why the term is "back-formation". > >>>Yes, I just assumed that the back-formation had been in the opposite >>>direction. >> >> You may be missing the point. "A is a back-formation of B." >>means that A is derived from B, but that for some reason, one would >>have expected B to have been derived from A. > >so ditz as a backformation of ditzy means that ditz is derived from >ditzy. > >I had always assumed the other direction (ditzy as the adaptation). > >> My apology if you did get it and I am the one who missed. > >I think you missed, but there are so many flops back and forth here . . >. > >:) afc: And flips. FORTH does not get discussed too often though. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,uk.culture.language.english Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 19 Aug 03 08:17:07 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 25 Message-ID: <811.361T371T4973356@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <3f3c73a8.47670472@news.ocis.net> <3F3D8562.C5487322@ev1.net> <816tjvccujp7ok5sgoa8r056fv0405mia7@4ax.com> <919.358T2893T8876310@kltpzyxm.invalid> <3F3F2740.F0C5605E@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-184.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:148896 In article <3F3F2740.F0C5605E@ev1.net> richmond@ev1.net (Charles Richmond) writes: >Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Just to further muddy the waters, a similar phrase we sometimes use >> is "spinny". But since spinning makes you dizzy... >> >I have *never* heard of the word "spinny"...used this way >or any other way. Are you from Canada, the Pacific Northwest, >or the Northeast??? 1. Yes. 2. Depends - northwest to an American, southwest to a Canadian. 3. No. To be fair, I don't hear the term too often, but if I used it there's a good chance I'd be understood. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 22 Aug 03 10:41:01 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY2PvZxwGCbDNyoBGnbmVuXmt4gFExYIeWVkZRo2J5zzyR4HOa3jNlo X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Aug 2003 11:46:40 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!194.168.4.91.MISMATCH!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-177 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149061 In article , Morten Reistad wrote: >In article , >Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: >>In article <1fze8xh.12sq22oe29ib6N%proto@panix.com>, >>Walter Bushell wrote: >>> wrote: >> >>>> >Compared with endemic malaria, DDT (used properly) looks pretty "good." >> >>>> We didn't have malaria in Michigan. > >Are you absolutly sure? Nope. But I never heard of it. > >Malaria was known in Europe as far north as southern Denmark before >eradication efforts set in. I didn't think it got all that cold there. > >You can still manage to infect a local pond of mosquitos if you >go there with falciparum in your body. But is malaria transmitted through the wigglers? I thought it was transmitted from host to host. That means that, if there's a 10 month hiatus of mosquito biting, transmission would almost stop. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 23 Aug 03 09:23:22 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ0KGsH40rgq0zAZYAF49WhtJcBzCKAuFZeGYMAnc+1JSKAdLvqQ3pP X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Aug 2003 10:29:12 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-7 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149070 In article , hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >In article , wrote: >>In article , >> hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: > > >>>Much like the question about ditzes and died blonde hair: is it that >>>ditzes are more likely to bleach their hair, or that the chemicals cause >>>brain damage? >> >>They know those chemicals cause non-thinking in the opposite >>sex. That's why they dye their hair. > >> > >Nah. Long cascading hair in many other colors have the same effect upon >us. > >It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a >lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, >where in the other places I've lived they tend to come in all hair >colors [Though I suppose that they come in assorted hair couluours in >Britain :) ]. Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore those dresses with large gaps. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1061565627 46070 146.186.61.46 (22 Aug 2003 15:20:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:20:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149090 In article , wrote: >In article , > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >>Much like the question about ditzes and died blonde hair: is it that >>ditzes are more likely to bleach their hair, or that the chemicals cause >>brain damage? > >They know those chemicals cause non-thinking in the opposite >sex. That's why they dye their hair. > Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:35:55 +0200 Organization: EUnet Norway Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.71.197.12 X-Trace: services.kq.no 1061626502 23265 193.71.197.12 (23 Aug 2003 08:15:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eunet.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:15:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: mrr@acer.reistad.priv.no (Morten Reistad) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!uio.no!193.75.75.20.MISMATCH!news.eunet.no!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149193 In article , wrote: >In article , Morten Reistad wrote: >>In article , >> >>Are you absolutly sure? > >Nope. But I never heard of it. >> >>Malaria was known in Europe as far north as southern Denmark before >>eradication efforts set in. > >I didn't think it got all that cold there. > >> >>You can still manage to infect a local pond of mosquitos if you >>go there with falciparum in your body. > >But is malaria transmitted through the wigglers? I thought >it was transmitted from host to host. That means that, if there's >a 10 month hiatus of mosquito biting, transmission would almost >stop. Malaria is a common description of the diseases you get when you are attacked by a class of protozoan parasites of the genus Plasmodium. There are four of them, P. falciparum, P. vivax, P. ovale, or P. malariae. The first one is the real baddie; the last one most common. They go through a cycle of two hosts, one in humans and one in the anapheles mosquito, and requires both to reproduce. One infected human in a mosquito population is enough to start an infection, and vice versa. In total they kill around 1 million people and infect almost 300 million every year. There are a number of drugs that work effectively against them, but no vaccine. You have to keep eating Lariam or newer substitutes. After a good number of months on those drugs you want to take your chances on the malaria. This makes the anapheles mosquito the most dangeruos animal you can meet. It kills more people daily than the total take of tigers and sharks in a decade or more. http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/Immunology/Students/Spring2003/Henry/malaria.htm -- mrr ###### From: "Rupert Pigott" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:17:19 +0100 Organization: Titanic Enterprises Unlimited Lines: 18 Message-ID: <1061669839.795794@saucer.planet.gong> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: darkboong.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1061669841 3813 80.177.7.220 (23 Aug 2003 20:17:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:17:21 +0000 (UTC) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Priority: 3 X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cache-Post-Path: saucer.planet.gong!unknown@voodoo.planet.gong Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149238 wrote in message news:bi7flo$oj6$2@bob.news.rcn.net... [SNIP] > It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color Cher sex object ? WTF ? Did that really happen ? > became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore > those dresses with large gaps. Weirdly I never really went for blondes. I was always a sucker for Auburn or black hair that almost looks blue when the light catches it right. :) Cheers, Rupert ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:22:04 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-547.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149263 In article <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org>, Sam Yorko wrote: > Hedy Lamarr (a > great counterexample of the brains times beauty equals a constant), Damn straight. -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sun, 24 Aug 03 10:15:29 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061669839.795794@saucer.planet.gong> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY914K9PDyjhQx4eQuqD4+hma5jSPE7wG0cMxY9sC24jFx1m4p2JB6m X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Aug 2003 11:21:27 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.abs.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-99 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149282 In article <1061669839.795794@saucer.planet.gong>, "Rupert Pigott" wrote: > wrote in message news:bi7flo$oj6$2@bob.news.rcn.net... >[SNIP] > >> It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color > >Cher sex object ? WTF ? Did that really happen ? When she started wearing those slinky, holey dresses, I guess. There was a poster of her in the office kitty-corner across from mine that was very large and apparently was extremely provacative according to the males. > >> became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore >> those dresses with large gaps. > >Weirdly I never really went for blondes. I was always a sucker >for Auburn or black hair that almost looks blue when the light >catches it right. :) Peer pressure might require you to ooh at blondes. This is all one of those mysteries of my life. Someday, somebody will produce the Theory of Everything and then I'll be able to understand men. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sun, 24 Aug 03 10:19:30 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbL4IMir4fji0rpYdnF6U3oRaeIQh+tz8sZvMjFMpMHTZSjuMnKi/iw X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Aug 2003 11:25:28 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-99 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149280 In article <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org>, Sam Yorko wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have >> more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager >> was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars >> of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. >> >> It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color >> became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore >> those dresses with large gaps. >> > >Oh, please. Counter examples: Bettie Page, Katharine Hepburn, Rita >Moreno, Vivian Leigh, Jean Simmons, Ann Blyth, Leslie Caron (Gigi!), >Audry Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany's), Sophia Loren, Hedy Lamarr (a >great counterexample of the brains times beauty equals a constant), Gene >Tierney (Ghost and Mrs. Muir), Joan Collins... None were the sex objects of the flavor of a Marilyn Monroe. Most of your examples were not of era I'm talking about. I'm just telling how we (females) were conditioned in my youth. Note that there weren't men talking in those ads. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Message-ID: <3F486D27.E8A5B354@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1061704168 12.241.15.59 (Sun, 24 Aug 2003 05:49:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 05:49:28 GMT Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 05:49:28 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149298 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have > more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager > was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars > of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. > What about Rita Hayworth??? Although her original hair color was *black*...she was a "redhead" most of her life. Hey, I kind of liked Anna May Wong... > > It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color > became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore > those dresses with large gaps. > Sure, the dresses with gaps were sexy...but *long* hair like Cher's was sexy too. If a woman's hair was *not* so important to men, then women would *not* spend so much time taking care of their hair IMHO. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 03 09:20:24 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaUqQqjFPA4AIzTlkkoGPnqG4AJL28OIbLO3kREXFjVjyCf6E5Tx38p X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Aug 2003 10:26:34 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-158 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149322 In article <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org>, Sam Yorko wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org>, >> Sam Yorko wrote: >> >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have >> >> more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager >> >> was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars >> >> of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. >> >> >> >> It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color >> >> became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore >> >> those dresses with large gaps. >> >> >> > >> >Oh, please. Counter examples: Bettie Page, Katharine Hepburn, Rita >> >Moreno, Vivian Leigh, Jean Simmons, Ann Blyth, Leslie Caron (Gigi!), >> >Audry Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany's), Sophia Loren, Hedy Lamarr (a >> >great counterexample of the brains times beauty equals a constant), Gene >> >Tierney (Ghost and Mrs. Muir), Joan Collins... >> >> None were the sex objects of the flavor of a Marilyn Monroe. >> Most of your examples were not of era I'm talking about. >Bettie Page >wasn't a sex objectall< she was. And her >era was 1950 to 1957 (1955: "Miss Pinup Girl of the World", January 1955 >Playboy centerfold.) > >But, she wasn't an actress; that much is true. > >How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too >sophisticated. JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: Sam Yorko Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:15:53 -0800 Lines: 38 Message-ID: <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: symsj01.sj.symbol.com (63.145.233.34) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1061774118 7841528 63.145.233.34 (16 [71567]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!symsj01.sj.symbol.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149313 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org>, > Sam Yorko wrote: > >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have > >> more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager > >> was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars > >> of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. > >> > >> It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color > >> became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore > >> those dresses with large gaps. > >> > > > >Oh, please. Counter examples: Bettie Page, Katharine Hepburn, Rita > >Moreno, Vivian Leigh, Jean Simmons, Ann Blyth, Leslie Caron (Gigi!), > >Audry Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany's), Sophia Loren, Hedy Lamarr (a > >great counterexample of the brains times beauty equals a constant), Gene > >Tierney (Ghost and Mrs. Muir), Joan Collins... > > None were the sex objects of the flavor of a Marilyn Monroe. > Most of your examples were not of era I'm talking about. > > > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Bettie Page >wasn't a sex objectall< she was. And her era was 1950 to 1957 (1955: "Miss Pinup Girl of the World", January 1955 Playboy centerfold.) But, she wasn't an actress; that much is true. How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too sophisticated. Sam ###### From: lars@bearnip.com (Lars Duening) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:53:20 -0600 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: clspdslgw2poold138.clsp.uswest.net (63.230.68.138) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1061780001 7715858 63.230.68.138 (16 [14293]) X-Orig-Path: lars User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b1 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!clspdslgw2poold138.clsp.uswest.NET!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149341 Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > In article > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: > > > It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a > > lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, > > They're MALE???? Some of them, yes. ###### From: Larry Elmore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030714 Debian/1.4-2 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.120.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc01 1061786000 12.237.120.43 (Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:33:20 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:33:20 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:33:20 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc01.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149316 Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > In article > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: > > >>It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a >>lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, > > > They're MALE???? > > (You Leftpondians DO have problems getting your minds around the concept > of words having gender, don't you?) No, we've just advanced further along the path that English has been progressing for the last millenium now. ;-) And thank whatever gods that be that English has evolved -- Old English is a bitch. --Larry ###### Message-ID: <3F49BC62.67E79C8A@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1061789987 12.241.15.59 (Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:39:47 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:39:47 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:39:47 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149354 Sam Yorko wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > Bettie Page >wasn't a sex objectall< she was. And her > era was 1950 to 1957 (1955: "Miss Pinup Girl of the World", January 1955 > Playboy centerfold.) > > But, she wasn't an actress; that much is true. > How about Jane "boom-boom" Russell??? She was a brunette, but I will admit that perhaps most men were *not* looking at her hair. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Message-ID: <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net 1061790089 12.241.15.59 (Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:41:29 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:41:29 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:41:29 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149356 Lars Duening wrote: > > Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > > > In article > > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: > > > > > It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a > > > lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, > > > > They're MALE???? > > Some of them, yes. > Perhaps Brian wants to point out that (perhaps just in the UK) the word "blond" refers to a male, and the word "blonde" refers to a female. I do *not* think that Left Pondians draw that distinction. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: D.J. Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:01:43 -0500 Organization: TychoTown Tycho Crater Ice Cream Parlour Message-ID: <1igjkvgjkrltaqoifbr2mjn4envb2ebc9g@4ax.com> Distribution: world Reply-To: blue7green@wowserscrosswinds.net References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <3F49BC62.67E79C8A@ev1.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 14 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149304 Charles Richmond wrote: ] How about Jane "boom-boom" Russell??? She was a brunette, but ] I will admit that perhaps most men were *not* looking at her ] hair. Neither did Howard Huges when he did some remake about Billy the Kid. JimP. -- Jim Disclaimer: Standard July 30, 2003: http://blue7green.net/crestar/index.html drive-in theatres: http://www.drivein-jim.net/ ###### From: "Nico de Jong" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net> Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Lines: 10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:31:12 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.142.193.202 X-Complaints-To: abuse@get2.net X-Trace: news.get2net.dk 1061800629 129.142.193.202 (Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:37:09 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:37:09 CEST Organization: get2net Internet Kunde Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!uio.no!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!news.get2net.dk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149317 > Lars Duening wrote: > Perhaps Brian wants to point out that (perhaps just in the UK) > the word "blond" refers to a male, and the word "blonde" refers > to a female. I do *not* think that Left Pondians draw that > distinction. > Do you also have different words for a brunette ? Nico (always eager to improve his english vocabulary) ###### From: "Rupert Pigott" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:14:16 +0100 Organization: Titanic Enterprises Unlimited Lines: 14 Message-ID: <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: darkboong.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1061813661 18778 80.177.7.220 (25 Aug 2003 12:14:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:14:21 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Priority: 3 X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cache-Post-Path: saucer.planet.gong!unknown@voodoo.planet.gong Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149325 wrote in message news:bico8q$m4c$2@bob.news.rcn.net... [SNIP] > JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the > world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression > that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. Naw. Not true, at least in my case. :) Cheers, Rupert ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:13:25 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 47 Message-ID: <1g07uhu.1lhk01y1c7teh5N%proto@panix.com> References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1061817206 20238 166.84.199.79 (25 Aug 2003 13:13:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:13:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!dfw-feed.news.verio.net!phl-feed.news.verio.net!newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149344 Sam Yorko wrote: > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > > > In article <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org>, > > Sam Yorko wrote: > > >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > >> > > >> Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have > > >> more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager > > >> was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars > > >> of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. > > >> > > >> It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color > > >> became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore > > >> those dresses with large gaps. > > >> > > > > > >Oh, please. Counter examples: Bettie Page, Katharine Hepburn, Rita > > >Moreno, Vivian Leigh, Jean Simmons, Ann Blyth, Leslie Caron (Gigi!), > > >Audry Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany's), Sophia Loren, Hedy Lamarr (a > > >great counterexample of the brains times beauty equals a constant), Gene > > >Tierney (Ghost and Mrs. Muir), Joan Collins... > > > > None were the sex objects of the flavor of a Marilyn Monroe. > > Most of your examples were not of era I'm talking about. > > > > > > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. > > Bettie Page >wasn't a sex objectall< she was. And her > era was 1950 to 1957 (1955: "Miss Pinup Girl of the World", January 1955 > Playboy centerfold.) > > But, she wasn't an actress; that much is true. > > How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too > sophisticated. > > Sam Talk about prue sex object consider Betty Boop. Black hair. -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1061828329 37268 146.186.61.46 (25 Aug 2003 16:18:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:18:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.online.be!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149324 In article , wrote: >In article <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org>, > Sam Yorko wrote: >>How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too >>sophisticated. >JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >world. Gee, and I'd figured he'd be smart enough to say "second most beautiful" :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1061828459 37268 146.186.61.46 (25 Aug 2003 16:20:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:20:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149319 In article <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >Lars Duening wrote: >> > In article >> > >> > > It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a >> > > lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, >> > They're MALE???? >> Some of them, yes. >Perhaps Brian wants to point out that (perhaps just in the UK) >the word "blond" refers to a male, and the word "blonde" refers >to a female. I do *not* think that Left Pondians draw that >distinction. I've never seen the distinction made before. I always figured that the word had so many spellings just to give them a fighting chance :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: Eric Sosman Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:58:48 -0400 Organization: Sun Microsystems Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3F4A4048.9D797F7C@sun.com> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> Reply-To: Eric.Sosman@Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: tardis.east.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news1brm.Central.Sun.COM 1061830728 23875 129.148.168.113 (25 Aug 2003 16:58:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news1brm.central.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:58:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-CCK-MCD [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!ply1.onvoy!onvoy.com!feed.news.qwest.net!namche.sun.com!news1brm.central.sun.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149355 Larry Elmore wrote: > > Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > > In article > > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: > > > > > >>It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a > >>lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, > > > > > > They're MALE???? > > > > (You Leftpondians DO have problems getting your minds around the concept > > of words having gender, don't you?) > > No, we've just advanced further along the path that English has been > progressing for the last millenium now. ;-) > > And thank whatever gods that be that English has evolved -- Old English > is a bitch. ITYM "bitche." -- Eric.Sosman@sun.com ###### From: Sam Yorko Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:32:36 -0800 Lines: 52 Message-ID: <3F4A7263.982BA0E8@computer.org> References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1g07uhu.1lhk01y1c7teh5N%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: symsj01.sj.symbol.com (63.145.233.34) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1061839920 8674353 63.145.233.34 (16 [71567]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!symsj01.sj.symbol.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149360 Walter Bushell wrote: > > Sam Yorko wrote: > > > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > In article <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org>, > > > Sam Yorko wrote: > > > >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have > > > >> more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager > > > >> was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars > > > >> of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. > > > >> > > > >> It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color > > > >> became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore > > > >> those dresses with large gaps. > > > >> > > > > > > > >Oh, please. Counter examples: Bettie Page, Katharine Hepburn, Rita > > > >Moreno, Vivian Leigh, Jean Simmons, Ann Blyth, Leslie Caron (Gigi!), > > > >Audry Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany's), Sophia Loren, Hedy Lamarr (a > > > >great counterexample of the brains times beauty equals a constant), Gene > > > >Tierney (Ghost and Mrs. Muir), Joan Collins... > > > > > > None were the sex objects of the flavor of a Marilyn Monroe. > > > Most of your examples were not of era I'm talking about. > > > > > > > > > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. > > > > Bettie Page >wasn't a sex objectall< she was. And her > > era was 1950 to 1957 (1955: "Miss Pinup Girl of the World", January 1955 > > Playboy centerfold.) > > > > But, she wasn't an actress; that much is true. > > > > How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too > > sophisticated. > > > > Sam > > Talk about pure sex object consider Betty Boop. Black hair. But she's a dog. Literally. Betty Boop originally started out as the sister to the other dog in the series. Gradually over time, she became more human, and the other dog became her pet. Sam ###### From: Giles Todd Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:01:54 +0200 Reply-To: g@todd.nu Message-ID: Cancel-Lock: sha1:10NnYU5VsQlD8a9/nHYfMKOIHhw= References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <3F4A4048.9D797F7C@sun.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NFilter: 1.2.1-b1 Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Aug 2003 00:02:03 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.127.198.243 X-Trace: 1061848923 news.xs4all.nl 49109 80.127.198.243:4436 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!skynet.be!skynet.be!transit.news.xs4all.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!xs4all!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149357 On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:58:48 -0400, Eric Sosman wrote: > Larry Elmore wrote: > > > > And thank whatever gods that be that English has evolved -- Old English > > is a bitch. > > ITYM "bitche." Tsk. 'Bicce'. Giles. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 03 09:30:06 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaOBeAc4DqmL9JOyVRx0hAqMHchXstimKbrWqm0N8ft+xx9lUOW5U2A X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Aug 2003 10:36:25 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-99 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149384 In article <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong>, "Rupert Pigott" wrote: > wrote in message news:bico8q$m4c$2@bob.news.rcn.net... > >[SNIP] > >> JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >> world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression >> that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. > >Naw. Not true, at least in my case. :) You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 03 09:31:31 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYLWAgZCQHtuYhWVAfOrjAPPc6fYR2T2MDi1SG2GtrfTKIPdlw6u/8G X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Aug 2003 10:37:51 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!63.218.45.10.MISMATCH!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!199.184.165.233.MISMATCH!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-99 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149388 In article , hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >In article , wrote: >>In article <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org>, >> Sam Yorko wrote: > >>>How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too >>>sophisticated. > >>JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >>world. > >Gee, and I'd figured he'd be smart enough to say "second most beautiful" > >:) Nope. He knew I always knew when he was lying and that lying to me was the worst thing anybody could do. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 03 12:21:37 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb7evyLG2+CPo9MkJKP5rfF+L86O1qLXhjVnHC9DFVcF2u6g6Ymih8W X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Aug 2003 13:27:58 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-20 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149386 In article , Howard S Shubs wrote: >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? > >Is that difficult to understand? No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:57:56 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1g07uhu.1lhk01y1c7teh5N%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-432.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!129.250.169.16!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149421 In article <1g07uhu.1lhk01y1c7teh5N%proto@panix.com>, proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote: > Talk about prue sex object consider Betty Boop. Black hair. Nah, Betty Boop was a dog. :-D -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:58:43 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f4aa3de.16830188@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 26 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149383 hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >In article , wrote: >>In article <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org>, >> Sam Yorko wrote: > >>>How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too >>>sophisticated. > >>JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >>world. > >Gee, and I'd figured he'd be smart enough to say "second most beautiful" > >:) A truly wise man: "Who? Her?" Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:58:45 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f4aa420.16896132@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 31 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149381 Charles Richmond wrote: >Lars Duening wrote: >> >> Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: >> >> > In article >> > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: >> > >> > > It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a >> > > lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, >> > >> > They're MALE???? >> >> Some of them, yes. >> >Perhaps Brian wants to point out that (perhaps just in the UK) >the word "blond" refers to a male, and the word "blonde" refers >to a female. I do *not* think that Left Pondians draw that >distinction. True, we do not have the sex "e", at least, not in my area. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd Lines: 27 Message-ID: <1061848904snz@dsl.co.uk> References: <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net> X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 1061880351 21962 10.0.0.1 (26 Aug 2003 06:45:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:45:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: from dsl.demon.co.uk ([158.152.92.150]) by news.demon.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19rXaQ-0005hn-00 for mail2news@news.demon.co.uk; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:45:51 +0000 X-Path: dsl.co.uk!bhk X-To: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk X-Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.31 X-Lines: 26 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!mutlu.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!bhk Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149428 In article hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: > In article <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net>, > Charles Richmond wrote: > >Perhaps Brian wants to point out that (perhaps just in the UK) > >the word "blond" refers to a male, and the word "blonde" refers > >to a female. I do *not* think that Left Pondians draw that > >distinction. > > I've never seen the distinction made before. I always figured that the > word had so many spellings just to give them a fighting chance :) We make a similar distinction between fiance/fiancee (I'm not going to bother with the acute accent on the [first] e). (Well, I suppose actually the cheese-eating surrender monkeys made the distinctions in the first place: we've merely retained them in English, because the gender of the word is a useful indicator of the sex of the person.) -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We can no longer stand apart from Europe if we would. Yet we are untrained to mix with our neighbours, or even talk to them". George Macaulay Trevelyan, 1919 ###### From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd Lines: 21 Message-ID: <1061849071snz@dsl.co.uk> References: X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 1061880352 21971 10.0.0.1 (26 Aug 2003 06:45:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:45:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: from dsl.demon.co.uk ([158.152.92.150]) by news.demon.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19rXaR-0005hn-00 for mail2news@news.demon.co.uk; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:45:51 +0000 X-Path: dsl.co.uk!bhk X-To: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk X-Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.31 X-Lines: 20 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!mutlu.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!bhk Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149426 In article nico@DUMPTHISfarumdata.dk "Nico de Jong" writes: > > Lars Duening wrote: > > Perhaps Brian wants to point out that (perhaps just in the UK) > > the word "blond" refers to a male, and the word "blonde" refers > > to a female. I do *not* think that Left Pondians draw that > > distinction. > > Do you also have different words for a brunette ? Oddly enough, no. However, no one (apart from in police reports) is interested in a brown-haired man per se, so the fact wouldn't be mentioned. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We can no longer stand apart from Europe if we would. Yet we are untrained to mix with our neighbours, or even talk to them". George Macaulay Trevelyan, 1919 ###### From: "Rupert Pigott" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:33:57 +0100 Organization: Titanic Enterprises Unlimited Lines: 22 Message-ID: <1061897637.169708@saucer.planet.gong> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> NNTP-Posting-Host: darkboong.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1061897638 28994 80.177.7.220 (26 Aug 2003 11:33:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:33:58 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Priority: 3 X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cache-Post-Path: saucer.planet.gong!unknown@voodoo.planet.gong Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!213.253.16.105.MISMATCH!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149397 wrote in message news:bifd79$fk6$4@bob.news.rcn.net... > In article <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong>, > "Rupert Pigott" wrote: > > wrote in message news:bico8q$m4c$2@bob.news.rcn.net... > > > >[SNIP] > > > >> JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the > >> world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression > >> that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. > > > >Naw. Not true, at least in my case. :) > > You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? Naw, never fancied her. Just not my kinda look at all. Cheers, Rupert ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:52:07 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-757.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149420 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? Is that difficult to understand? -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: toby@telegraphics.com.au (Toby Thain) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 26 Aug 2003 08:25:43 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.26.194.94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1061911544 30784 127.0.0.1 (26 Aug 2003 15:25:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Aug 2003 15:25:44 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149462 Larry Elmore wrote in message news:... > Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: > > In article > > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: > > > > > >>It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a > >>lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, > > > > > > They're MALE???? > > > > (You Leftpondians DO have problems getting your minds around the concept > > of words having gender, don't you?) > > No, we've just advanced further along the path that English has been > progressing for the last millenium now. ;-) > > And thank whatever gods that be that English has evolved -- Old English > is a bitch. It is no coincidence that, in its evolution away from ugliness, English has embraced vast tracts of two languages that are beautiful in both a systemic and an aesthetic sense: French and Latin. In fact, the elegant orthogonality of the former and the precision of the latter suggest analogies to certain computer languages. At last! A smoke signal which might lead us back to the topic. Toby > > --Larry ###### Message-ID: <3F4BA2A4.FDFF7746@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1061914470 12.241.15.59 (Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:14:30 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:14:30 GMT Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:14:30 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149464 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong>, > "Rupert Pigott" wrote: > > wrote in message news:bico8q$m4c$2@bob.news.rcn.net... > > > >[SNIP] > > > >> JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the > >> world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression > >> that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. > > > >Naw. Not true, at least in my case. :) > > You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? > IMHO we men admired Elizabeth Taylor for her looks...when she was *young*. Now we only admire her for losing weight... IMHO. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Message-ID: <3F4BA30E.7CBBAE20@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1061914576 12.241.15.59 (Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:16:16 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:16:16 GMT Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:16:16 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149463 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > Howard S Shubs wrote: > >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > > >> You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? > > > >Is that difficult to understand? > > No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. > This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a > newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). > IMHO the majority of men under 40 think with their hormones. All the logic is just rationalization for the decisions that their hormones already made... IMHO. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Message-ID: <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1061914686 12.241.15.59 (Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:18:06 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:18:06 GMT Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:18:06 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149466 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: > >In article , wrote: > >>In article <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org>, > >> Sam Yorko wrote: > > > >>>How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too > >>>sophisticated. > > > >>JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the > >>world. > > > >Gee, and I'd figured he'd be smart enough to say "second most beautiful" > > > >:) > > Nope. He knew I always knew when he was lying and that lying to me > was the worst thing anybody could do. > Being highly intelligent and a seeker of truth, I believe you to be an exceptional lady. IMHO most women don't mind hearing lies as long as the lies are favorable to them. IMHO. Of course, I would *never* engage in that kind of politick... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:23:11 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3f4b7f06.2264659@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 24 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149433 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article , > Howard S Shubs wrote: >>In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >>> You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? >> >>Is that difficult to understand? > >No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. >This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a >newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). You did come back to the subject line though. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 03 10:48:12 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3f4b7f06.2264659@news.ocis.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbYEQdQTpENONyfK0qJ+K0yqasZ9n1ONDlghP9hPBsKh87cSEhNwCJ6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 2003 11:54:42 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-197 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149487 In article <3f4b7f06.2264659@news.ocis.net>, genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>In article , >> Howard S Shubs wrote: >>>In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? >>> >>>Is that difficult to understand? >> >>No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. >>This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a >>newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). > > You did come back to the subject line though. I really do try. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 03 10:48:12 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3f4b7f06.2264659@news.ocis.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbYEQdQTpENONyfK0qJ+K0yqasZ9n1ONDlghP9hPBsKh87cSEhNwCJ6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 2003 11:54:42 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-197 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149529 In article <3f4b7f06.2264659@news.ocis.net>, genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>In article , >> Howard S Shubs wrote: >>>In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? >>> >>>Is that difficult to understand? >> >>No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. >>This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a >>newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). > > You did come back to the subject line though. I really do try. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 03 10:50:17 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaUHibsMglsO0f99UtGd+ZIxtB4jQePBTz2RNgmip2flI9mpB9PnUf0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 2003 11:56:48 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-197 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149489 In article , Howard S Shubs wrote: >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. > >Oh. "We're down here!" > > >> This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a >> newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). > >I wasn't trying to be nasty. I hope you didn't take it that way! Not at all. I merely detected an interpretation bug that would have had Rupert saying something he didn't. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 03 10:50:17 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaUHibsMglsO0f99UtGd+ZIxtB4jQePBTz2RNgmip2flI9mpB9PnUf0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 2003 11:56:48 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-197 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149531 In article , Howard S Shubs wrote: >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. > >Oh. "We're down here!" > > >> This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a >> newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). > >I wasn't trying to be nasty. I hope you didn't take it that way! Not at all. I merely detected an interpretation bug that would have had Rupert saying something he didn't. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 03 10:56:24 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ6RJMgxdQYtKx93yLjcJm2HfVOSTZZ+ufDDUH0e45tW+ThOZ9VGstW X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 2003 12:02:55 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-197 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149490 In article <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article , >> hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >> >In article , wrote: >> >>In article <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org>, >> >> Sam Yorko wrote: >> > >> >>>How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too >> >>>sophisticated. >> > >> >>JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >> >>world. >> > >> >Gee, and I'd figured he'd be smart enough to say "second most beautiful" >> > >> >:) >> >> Nope. He knew I always knew when he was lying and that lying to me >> was the worst thing anybody could do. >> >Being highly intelligent and a seeker of truth, I believe you to >be an exceptional lady. I'm no fuc^W lady. You may call me bitch or broad; but there's no call for you to insult me by calling me a lady. Ladies keep their feet on the ground, wear skirts, keep their knees together and do good deeds; packaging is more important than substance. All of these things appall me. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 03 10:56:24 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ6RJMgxdQYtKx93yLjcJm2HfVOSTZZ+ufDDUH0e45tW+ThOZ9VGstW X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 2003 12:02:55 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-197 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149532 In article <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article , >> hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: >> >In article , wrote: >> >>In article <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org>, >> >> Sam Yorko wrote: >> > >> >>>How about Elizabeth Taylor, especially "Giant" (1956)? Naw, too >> >>>sophisticated. >> > >> >>JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >> >>world. >> > >> >Gee, and I'd figured he'd be smart enough to say "second most beautiful" >> > >> >:) >> >> Nope. He knew I always knew when he was lying and that lying to me >> was the worst thing anybody could do. >> >Being highly intelligent and a seeker of truth, I believe you to >be an exceptional lady. I'm no fuc^W lady. You may call me bitch or broad; but there's no call for you to insult me by calling me a lady. Ladies keep their feet on the ground, wear skirts, keep their knees together and do good deeds; packaging is more important than substance. All of these things appall me. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 03 10:57:13 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <20030826222144.12300.00000138@mb-m20.aol.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZRKlot82W/mzSYMpPmQCAhsqMFpTBfn0IlVUnlNxOk5Pnu5gzGftSU X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 2003 12:03:43 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-197 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149491 In article <20030826222144.12300.00000138@mb-m20.aol.com>, bbreynolds@aol.comedxedl (Bruce B. Reynolds) wrote: >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >>JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >>world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression >>that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. > >It was the purple eyes, BAH; not one of us could resist them. Was that it? JMF never specified; he just melted. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 03 10:57:13 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <20030826222144.12300.00000138@mb-m20.aol.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZRKlot82W/mzSYMpPmQCAhsqMFpTBfn0IlVUnlNxOk5Pnu5gzGftSU X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Aug 2003 12:03:43 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-197 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149533 In article <20030826222144.12300.00000138@mb-m20.aol.com>, bbreynolds@aol.comedxedl (Bruce B. Reynolds) wrote: >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >>JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >>world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression >>that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. > >It was the purple eyes, BAH; not one of us could resist them. Was that it? JMF never specified; he just melted. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:12:31 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-607.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149521 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. Oh. "We're down here!" > This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a > newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). I wasn't trying to be nasty. I hope you didn't take it that way! -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: bbreynolds@aol.comedxedl (Bruce B. Reynolds) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: 27 Aug 2003 02:21:44 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler (Queue Name: usenet_offline-m20) Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: <20030826222144.12300.00000138@mb-m20.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!213.253.16.105.MISMATCH!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!skynet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed.online.be!216.170.153.135.MISMATCH!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149504 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression >that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. It was the purple eyes, BAH; not one of us could resist them. -- Bruce B. Reynolds, Trailing Edge Technologies, Glenside PA ###### From: Larry Elmore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030714 Debian/1.4-2 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F27721A.9AC18A8B@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net> <3f4aa420.16896132@news.ocis.net> In-Reply-To: <3f4aa420.16896132@news.ocis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.120.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1061952597 12.237.120.43 (Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:49:57 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:49:57 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:49:57 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149522 Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > True, we do not have the sex "e", at least, not in my area. Truly you must live in a terrible place. The Texas climate sucks, but even so, there's plenty of sex "e" walking around at the malls, and at the pools... ###### From: Craig Richardson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:09:45 -0700 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-604.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cancel-Lock: sha1:vJAUmy/vVvFkC4nR797KN2yfHYw= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-NFilter: 1.2.1-b1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!tethys.csu.net!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149486 On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:41:29 GMT, Charles Richmond wrote: >Lars Duening wrote: >> >> Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: >> >> > In article >> > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: >> > >> > > It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a >> > > lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, >> > >> > They're MALE???? >> >> Some of them, yes. >> >Perhaps Brian wants to point out that (perhaps just in the UK) >the word "blond" refers to a male, and the word "blonde" refers >to a female. I do *not* think that Left Pondians draw that >distinction. Fewer and fewer, despite those of us Fighting The Good Fight. We've lost the subjunctive, as well. --Craig -- I start to wish Bob Melvin would walk out to the mound, ask Freddy if he was injured, and then kick him in the balls so he can call in an emergency replacement from the bullpen --Derek Zumsteg in BP, 5/13/2003 ###### From: Craig Richardson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:09:45 -0700 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <1061685221snz@dsl.co.uk> <1g07r84.aqj6d2pxq8uiN%lars@bearnip.com> <3F49BCC8.2E3BDFEF@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-604.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cancel-Lock: sha1:vJAUmy/vVvFkC4nR797KN2yfHYw= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-NFilter: 1.2.1-b1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!tethys.csu.net!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149528 On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:41:29 GMT, Charles Richmond wrote: >Lars Duening wrote: >> >> Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: >> >> > In article >> > hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" writes: >> > >> > > It's just that I noticed when I was in southerin California, and to a >> > > lesser extent southern Nevada, that the ditzes were usually blond, >> > >> > They're MALE???? >> >> Some of them, yes. >> >Perhaps Brian wants to point out that (perhaps just in the UK) >the word "blond" refers to a male, and the word "blonde" refers >to a female. I do *not* think that Left Pondians draw that >distinction. Fewer and fewer, despite those of us Fighting The Good Fight. We've lost the subjunctive, as well. --Craig -- I start to wish Bob Melvin would walk out to the mound, ask Freddy if he was injured, and then kick him in the balls so he can call in an emergency replacement from the bullpen --Derek Zumsteg in BP, 5/13/2003 ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 27 Aug 03 11:06:04 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 29 Message-ID: <1247.369T244T6663949@kltpzyxm.invalid> References: <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-987.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149541 In article jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) writes: >I'm no fuc^W lady. You may call me bitch or broad; but there's >no call for you to insult me by calling me a lady. Ladies >keep their feet on the ground, wear skirts, keep their >knees together and do good deeds; packaging is more important >than substance. All of these things appall me. Good on you, Barb. I finally found someone like that (we've been married 14 years now) and I think she'd approve. Most of the time, anyway. It reminds me of someone I once knew back in my skydiving days. This woman was quite a party animal, and many of us wondered whether she would survive the lifestyle, which for her was a bit more extreme than for the rest of us. Years later I ran into her on a scuba diving trip - still alive and kicking, although toned down just a bit. But as we were unloading our heavy tanks and weight belts, she quipped: "I'm a delicate flower, for fuck's sake!" Yup, good old Jennifer... -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign! ###### From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slytherin.ds.psu.edu X-Trace: f04n12.cac.psu.edu 1062000414 46994 146.186.61.46 (27 Aug 2003 16:06:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@f04n12.cac.psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:06:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149540 In article <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> Nope. He knew I always knew when he was lying and that lying to me >> was the worst thing anybody could do. >Being highly intelligent and a seeker of truth, I believe you to >be an exceptional lady. IMHO most women don't mind hearing lies >as long as the lies are favorable to them. IMHO. They're not much differetn then men in that way (though they're not as vulnerable to chocolate chip cookies . . .) :) hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 28 Aug 03 09:08:18 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <3F4BA37C.DEFE6FED@ev1.net> <1247.369T244T6663949@kltpzyxm.invalid> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbpbDrdyUxmE3PKXDs9Cdwm34KFTHdurbr7KYaUoGwRZarBP1UgZsYI X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Aug 2003 10:14:59 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-177 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149580 In article <1247.369T244T6663949@kltpzyxm.invalid>, "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: >In article jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) >writes: > >>I'm no fuc^W lady. You may call me bitch or broad; but there's >>no call for you to insult me by calling me a lady. Ladies >>keep their feet on the ground, wear skirts, keep their >>knees together and do good deeds; packaging is more important >>than substance. All of these things appall me. > >Good on you, Barb. I finally found someone like that (we've been >married 14 years now) and I think she'd approve. Good. Treasure her. I think this flavor of she-beast (I really like this one) is rare. > .. Most of the time, anyway. Nobody should agree with me all the time. If somebody did, I'd begin to think I was wrong. > >It reminds me of someone I once knew back in my skydiving days. >This woman was quite a party animal, and many of us wondered whether >she would survive the lifestyle, which for her was a bit more extreme >than for the rest of us. Years later I ran into her on a scuba diving >trip - still alive and kicking, although toned down just a bit. But >as we were unloading our heavy tanks and weight belts, she quipped: >"I'm a delicate flower, for fuck's sake!" > >Yup, good old Jennifer... ROTFL. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jimmydevice Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:45:22 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3F4BA2A4.FDFF7746@ev1.net> In-Reply-To: <3F4BA2A4.FDFF7746@ev1.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 31 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149610 Charles Richmond wrote: > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>In article <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong>, >> "Rupert Pigott" wrote: >> >>> wrote in message news:bico8q$m4c$2@bob.news.rcn.net... >>> >>>[SNIP] >>> >>> >>>>JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >>>>world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression >>>>that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. >>> >>>Naw. Not true, at least in my case. :) >> >>You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? >> > > IMHO we men admired Elizabeth Taylor for her looks...when she > was *young*. Now we only admire her for losing weight... IMHO. > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | > +----------------------------------------------------------------+ I always thought it was the supple thighs on horse flesh, that scene on the beach, that's all I can remember. Must be significant. JimD. ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:13:17 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3F4BA2A4.FDFF7746@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-954.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149629 In article , jimmydevice wrote: > I always thought it was the supple thighs on horse flesh, that scene > on the beach, that's all I can remember. Must be significant. > JimD. Heck, I can have perverted thoughts about women who are currently *dead*, or who never existed at all. What's that matter? They're always the same age in their movies or other images. -- Today, on Paper-view: Pulp Fiction! ###### From: proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:36:48 -0400 Organization: Adamentine Wrecking Co. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <1g0effc.uuhusy1f5tz0gN%proto@panix.com> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3F4BA2A4.FDFF7746@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: proto.dialup.access.net X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1062088608 10531 166.84.199.79 (28 Aug 2003 16:36:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:36:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.5b2 (Mac OS 8.6) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!colt.net!nycmny1-snf1.gtei.net!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!panix!proto Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149628 Howard S Shubs wrote: > In article , > jimmydevice wrote: > > > I always thought it was the supple thighs on horse flesh, that scene > > on the beach, that's all I can remember. Must be significant. > > JimD. > > Heck, I can have perverted thoughts about women who are currently > *dead*, or who never existed at all. What's that matter? They're > always the same age in their movies or other images. And some people have peverted thoughts about Betty Boop, who is a dog. -- The last temptation is the highest treason: To do the right thing for the wrong reason. --T..S. Eliot Walter ###### From: Rich Alderson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: 28 Aug 2003 14:42:35 -0400 Organization: Systems Administration, XKL LLC, Redmond WA 98052 Lines: 17 Sender: alderson+news@panix5.panix.com Message-ID: References: <20030826222144.12300.00000138@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix5.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1062096156 13441 166.84.1.5 (28 Aug 2003 18:42:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:42:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149609 bbreynolds@aol.comedxedl (Bruce B. Reynolds) writes: > In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >> JMF thought Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful woman in the >> world. For some strange reason, I've been under the impression >> that beauty and sex object were almost orthogonal to each other. > It was the purple eyes, BAH; not one of us could resist them. "A tad overweight, but violet eyes to die for." --Dick to Lacey -- Rich Alderson | /"\ ASCII ribbon | news@alderson.users.panix.com | \ / campaign against | "You get what anybody gets. You get a lifetime." | x HTML mail and | --Death, of the Endless | / \ postings | ###### Message-ID: <3F4E8286.FCFAE012@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3F4BA2A4.FDFF7746@ev1.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1062102858 12.241.15.59 (Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:34:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:34:18 GMT Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:34:18 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149667 Howard S Shubs wrote: > > In article , > jimmydevice wrote: > > > I always thought it was the supple thighs on horse flesh, that scene > > on the beach, that's all I can remember. Must be significant. > > JimD. > > Heck, I can have perverted thoughts about women who are currently > *dead*, or who never existed at all. What's that matter? They're > always the same age in their movies or other images. > Three older men are talking about where they would like to be interred. One man said: "I want to be buried with full honors in Arlington National Cemetary." The second man said: "I want to be entombed in a great granite tomb on the Hudson, like President Grant." The third man said: "I want to be in a marble room with Sharon Stone." First guy: "But Sharon Stone's *not* dead..." Last guy: "I know...neither am I." -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Joe Morris Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The MITRE Organization Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <3F2EBE4D.69EF70C7@Dartmouth.edu> <1fz9rqs.1t95qb41mhuqxuN%proto@panix.com> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3F4BA2A4.FDFF7746@ev1.net> <1g0effc.uuhusy1f5tz0gN%proto@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: newslocal.mitre.org 1062166103 11101 128.29.24.210 (29 Aug 2003 14:08:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:08:23 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!bigboote.WPI.EDU!news.tufts.edu!newstransit.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149723 proto@panix.com (Walter Bushell) writes: >And some people have peverted thoughts about Betty Boop, who is a dog. ObTomLehrer: When correctly viewed, *Everything* is lewd: I can tell you things about Peter Pan And the Wizard of Oz (*There's* a dirty old man!) --- Lines from the song "Smut" Joe Morris ###### From: Jeff Teunissen Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Organization: Dusk To Dawn Computing Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3F4F60FE.1BA66902@d2dc.net> References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <3F49BC62.67E79C8A@ev1.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.19 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.164.246 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1062166801 12.241.164.246 (Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:20:01 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:20:01 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:20:01 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:149758 Charles Richmond wrote: > Sam Yorko wrote: > > Bettie Page >wasn't a sex objectall< she was. And her > > era was 1950 to 1957 (1955: "Miss Pinup Girl of the World", January > > 1955 Playboy centerfold.) > > > > But, she wasn't an actress; that much is true. > > How about Jane "boom-boom" Russell??? She was a brunette, but > I will admit that perhaps most men were *not* looking at her > hair. She had hair? -- | Jeff Teunissen -=- Pres., Dusk To Dawn Computing -=- deek @ d2dc.net | GPG: 1024D/9840105A 7102 808A 7733 C2F3 097B 161B 9222 DAB8 9840 105A | Core developer, The QuakeForge Project http://www.quakeforge.net/ | Specializing in Debian GNU/Linux http://www.d2dc.net/~deek/ ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever From: David Winsemius References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> Organization: not very Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.235.246.255 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1062459777 12.235.246.255 (Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:42:57 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:42:57 GMT Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:42:57 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:150195 Morten Reistad wrote in news:bru5ib.ae4.ln@acer: > This makes the anapheles mosquito the most dangeruos animal you can meet. > It kills more people daily than the total take of tigers and sharks in a > decade or more. > For some values of Anopheles, which is a genus, and only for females of those species. And ther is considerable geographic specificity, http://skonops.imbb.forth.gr/AnoBase/Species/malariaspecies.html . Only a minority of Anopheles species carry Plasmodia; the most commonly studied appears to be A. gambiae, although it is not a North American species. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00041534.htm See also the AnoBase: http://skonops.imbb.forth.gr/AnoBase/ -- David "" Winsemius ###### From: Lon Stowell Reply-To: lon.stowell@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.77.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc02 1063048099 12.240.77.188 (Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:08:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:08:19 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:08:19 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:150622 Approximately 9/8/03 06:39, Toby Thain uttered for posterity: > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote in message news:... >> In article <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org>, >> Sam Yorko wrote: >> >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have >> >> more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager >> >> was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars >> >> of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. >> >> >> >> It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color >> >> became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore >> >> those dresses with large gaps. >> >> >> > >> >Oh, please. Counter examples: Bettie Page, Katharine Hepburn, Rita >> >Moreno, Vivian Leigh, Jean Simmons, Ann Blyth, Leslie Caron (Gigi!), >> >Audry Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany's), Sophia Loren, Hedy Lamarr (a >> >great counterexample of the brains times beauty equals a constant), Gene >> >Tierney (Ghost and Mrs. Muir), Joan Collins... >> >> None were the sex objects of the flavor of a Marilyn Monroe. >> Most of your examples were not of era I'm talking about. > > Marilyn wasn't sexy because she was blonde. Marilyn was sexy because > she was Marilyn. > > Besides, I've met (natural) brunettes with Marilyn's allure. Was this Norma Jean by any chance? ###### From: Larry Elmore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030827 Debian/1.4-3 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3F4BA30E.7CBBAE20@ev1.net> <3F5D3B2F.DBC56E93@computer.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.237.120.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1063074852 12.237.120.43 (Tue, 09 Sep 2003 02:34:12 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 02:34:12 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 02:34:12 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:150623 Brian Inglis wrote: > On Mon, 08 Sep 03 11:17:48 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, > jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>In article <3F5D3B2F.DBC56E93@computer.org>, >> Sam Yorko wrote: >>> >>>I've heard somewhere that the decision (for both women and men) is made >>>in the first two seconds of the initial meeting: smell, sight, >>>whatever. >> >>Definitely smell. > > How the heck do you get close enough in the first two seconds of > an initial meeting to smell someone's pheromones? Dogs manage quite well at that, but getting down on all fours and trying that on a girl at a party is not likely to lead to anything. At least not at the parties I've been to. YMMV. ;-) ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 09 Sep 03 13:35:13 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <3F497159.7D6B3915@computer.org> <1061813657.74876@saucer.planet.gong> <3F4BA30E.7CBBAE20@ev1.net> <3F5D3B2F.DBC56E93@computer.org> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZfgZ22SgnSFLtCPUiJ7dNgyk/qbWy//eZvYy/5h8B9vfOApioUCcNA X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 2003 14:44:03 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-59 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:150681 In article , Brian Inglis wrote: >On Mon, 08 Sep 03 11:17:48 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>In article <3F5D3B2F.DBC56E93@computer.org>, >> Sam Yorko wrote: >>>Charles Richmond wrote: >>>> >>>> jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>>> > >>>> > In article , >>>> > Howard S Shubs wrote: >>>> > >In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >> You admired Elizabeth for her looks and not her actions? >>>> > > >>>> > >Is that difficult to understand? >>>> > >>>> > No. I'm simply trying to figure out how men think. >>>> > This is what I get when I ask a personal question in a >>>> > newsgroup. My apologies, Rupert ;-). >>>> > >>>> IMHO the majority of men under 40 think with their hormones. >>>> All the logic is just rationalization for the decisions that >>>> their hormones already made... IMHO. >>>> >>> >>>I've heard somewhere that the decision (for both women and men) is made >>>in the first two seconds of the initial meeting: smell, sight, >>>whatever. >> >>Definitely smell. > >How the heck do you get close enough in the first two seconds of >an initial meeting to smell someone's pheromones? Sweat. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Tue, 09 Sep 03 13:37:04 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaqwkVB9FHbct9qLKxhpkpbG0wAFvwePa7XGORXAwVrcBZWui14/grv X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Sep 2003 14:45:54 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!130.59.10.21.MISMATCH!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-59 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:150666 In article , Lon Stowell wrote: >Approximately 9/8/03 06:39, Toby Thain uttered for posterity: > >> jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote in message news:... >>> In article <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org>, >>> Sam Yorko wrote: >>> >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Us females were bombarded with an ad campaign about "Blonds have >>> >> more fun". And the folklore going around when I was a teenager >>> >> was that males prefer blond women. I don't think any movie stars >>> >> of the sex variety nor Amazons were pictured as brunettes. >>> >> >>> >> It wasn't until Cher became a sex object, that brunette color >>> >> became sexy again. And nobody looked at her hair when she wore >>> >> those dresses with large gaps. >>> >> >>> > >>> >Oh, please. Counter examples: Bettie Page, Katharine Hepburn, Rita >>> >Moreno, Vivian Leigh, Jean Simmons, Ann Blyth, Leslie Caron (Gigi!), >>> >Audry Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany's), Sophia Loren, Hedy Lamarr (a >>> >great counterexample of the brains times beauty equals a constant), Gene >>> >Tierney (Ghost and Mrs. Muir), Joan Collins... >>> >>> None were the sex objects of the flavor of a Marilyn Monroe. >>> Most of your examples were not of era I'm talking about. >> >> Marilyn wasn't sexy because she was blonde. Marilyn was sexy because >> she was Marilyn. >> >> Besides, I've met (natural) brunettes with Marilyn's allure. > > Was this Norma Jean by any chance? > That was her name. She was also brunette before blond. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: never+mail@panix.com.invalid (Michael Roach) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A small notepad underneath my in box Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <3F169EBD.92BC72C0@airmail.net> <3f3bd100.6024287@news.ocis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1063154326 11845 166.84.1.3 (10 Sep 2003 00:38:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:38:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Clueful-responder: echo "never-reply+panix=com" | tr "-+=" "+@." X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.f.de.plusline.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!panix!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:150733 In article <3f3bd100.6024287@news.ocis.net>, Gene Wirchenko wrote: >hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote: > > BANG! > >>hawk > ^^^^ >>-- >>Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign >>dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail > ^^^^ > > Hmm, tastes like chicken. I thought that was, "Not as tough as eagle, but more gamey than spotted owl". -- .. A booming voice says, "Wrong, cretin!", and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. ###### Message-ID: <3F5EF0C4.46D438F3@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Canine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Worst comment ever References: <3F298ADC.92848DFE@ev1.net> <20030808191507.27da4fc6.steveo@eircom.net> <3F47EDB5.CC1572AB@computer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.241.15.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1063179665 12.241.15.59 (Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:41:05 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:41:05 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:41:05 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:150753 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > Lon Stowell wrote: > >> > >> [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > >> > >> Marilyn wasn't sexy because she was blonde. Marilyn was sexy because > >> she was Marilyn. > >> > >> Besides, I've met (natural) brunettes with Marilyn's allure. > > > > Was this Norma Jean by any chance? > > > That was her name. She was also brunette before blond. > Try this on about Marilyn Monroe: The most celebrated of all actresses, Marilyn Monroe, was born Norma Jean Mortenson, on June 1, 1926, in the Los Angeles General Hospital, in California. Prior to her birth, Marilyn's father bought a motorcycle and headed north to San Francisco, thus abandoning the family in LA. Marilyn grew up not knowing for sure who her father really was. Her mother, Gladys, had entered into several relationships thus confusing her daughter as to who fathered her. Afterward, Gladys gave Norma Jean (Marilyn) the name of Baker, a previous suitor before Mortenson. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond richmond at plano dot net | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Lines: 12 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: bbreynolds@aol.comedxedl (Bruce B. Reynolds) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Date: 10 Sep 2003 23:48:39 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler (Queue Name: usenet_offline-m05) Subject: Re: Worst comment ever Message-ID: <20030910194839.23171.00000647@mb-m05.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:150796 In article , jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >>How the heck do you get close enough in the first two seconds of >>an initial meeting to smell someone's pheromones? > >Sweat. > Pinza. -- Bruce B. Reynolds, Trailing Edge Technologies, Glenside PA