From: slavins@hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 01:17:49 +0100 Organization: None Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hearsay.demon.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1032135408 18642 194.222.24.177 (16 Sep 2002 00:16:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:16:48 +0000 (UTC) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!news-x2.support.nl!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116794 A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to have responded with the single line 20021012T143000 He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. ###### From: "Hank Oredson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Lines: 24 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:43:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.209.205 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1032136994 12.81.209.205 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:43:14 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:43:14 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116761 "Simon Slavin" wrote in message news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... > A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event > was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and > wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to > have responded with the single line > > 20021012T143000 > > He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd > never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net ###### Message-ID: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> From: Brian Boutel Organization: X User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 14:40:03 +1200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.96.144.148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tsnz.net X-Trace: news02.tsnz.net 1032144004 203.96.144.148 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 14:40:04 NZST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 14:40:04 NZST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!feedme.news.mediaways.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!eusc.inter.net!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!propagator2-maxim!propagator-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!news02.tsnz.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116739 Hank Oredson wrote: > "Simon Slavin" wrote in message > news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... > >>A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event >>was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and >>wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to >>have responded with the single line >> >>20021012T143000 >> >>He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd >>never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. > > > > Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) > If you assume that the sender is USian, then it's October 12. Other people might code December 10 this way. --brian -- Brian Boutel Wellington New Zealand Note the NOSPAM ###### From: "Hank Oredson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Lines: 41 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 03:16:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.194.120 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1032146198 12.81.194.120 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 03:16:38 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 03:16:38 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!zen.net.uk!newspeer.lavaseals.co.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone2.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116764 "Brian Boutel" wrote in message news:3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz... > > > Hank Oredson wrote: > > "Simon Slavin" wrote in message > > news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... > > > >>A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event > >>was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and > >>wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to > >>have responded with the single line > >> > >>20021012T143000 > >> > >>He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd > >>never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. > > > > > > > > Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) > > > > If you assume that the sender is USian, then it's October 12. Other > people might code December 10 this way. > > --brian Then you would also have to decide if the time was 14:00:30 or 14:30:00 :-) Looks to me like it is a sortable format, so the date would be October. -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:51:45 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-353.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!prodigy.com!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116795 In article <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz>, Brian Boutel wrote: > If you assume that the sender is USian, then it's October 12. Other > people might code December 10 this way. Uh, no. The US doesn't code YMD. -- Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship ###### From: "Robert Singers" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:59:08 +1200 Organization: Unisys - Roseville, MN Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: nz-singersr-1.nz.unisys.com X-Trace: si05.rsvl.unisys.com 1032148751 97883 129.223.97.150 (16 Sep 2002 03:59:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@rsvl.unisys.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Sep 2002 03:59:11 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!uunet!ash.uu.net!bbnews1.unisys.com!si05!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116788 "Brian Boutel" wrote > >> > >>20021012T143000 > >> > >>He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd > >>never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. > > > > Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) > > > > If you assume that the sender is USian, then it's October 12. Other > people might code December 10 this way. Really? I've never seen anyone used to dd/mm/yy have a problem with yyyymmddtttt. I would expect people used to mmddyy as they're the ones muddling things. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.67.16.79 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 37 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 05:28:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1032154093 24.71.223.147 (Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:28:13 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:28:13 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!ps01-chi1!ps01-sjc1!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116804 On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:51:45 -0400, Howard S Shubs wrote: >In article <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> >Brian Boutel wrote: >>"Simon Slavin" >>wrote in message news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... >> If you assume that the sender is USian, then it's October 12. Other >> people might code December 10 this way. >Uh, no. The US doesn't code YMD. They do when they comply with standards -- X.12 EDI uses ISO format >>>> 20021012T143000 without the (optional) T. I prefer this format for any machine readable text dates. I've never known anyone get confused about whether month or day comes after the year, only when it comes before the year -- in Canada most people use the British/European order dd-mm-yyyy, but a lot use the American order mm-dd-yyyy -- which requires clarification for about one third of the dates which are not obvious. I prefer the unambiguous DEC/Oracle/Unix alpha month display format dd-Mon-yyyy, to which no one seems to object, for any human readable output. -- Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply tosspam@aol.com abuse@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@msn.com abuse@sprint.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@cadvision.com abuse@ibsystems.com uce@ftc.gov spam traps ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: hoh@invalid.invalid (Goran Larsson) Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Message-ID: Organization: [1] + 5934 done /bin/rm -rf ~/ & X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test73 (May 24, 2000) References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.244.214.191 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 1032160864 130.244.214.191 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:21:04 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:21:04 MET DST X-Sender: q-11932@isdn214-1-191.swipnet.se Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 07:18:08 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116808 In article , Brian Inglis wrote: > I prefer the unambiguous DEC/Oracle/Unix alpha month display > format dd-Mon-yyyy, to which no one seems to object, for any > human readable output. I object to it. 1. It gives me terrible flashbacks to the early '80-ies when I used VMS. 2. What language should be used for the month? All languages does not use three letter abbreviations of english month names! There must be some language where some of its abbreviations indicate a different month than the english abbreviation. -- Göran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com ###### From: TimC Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: 16 Sep 2002 09:05:36 GMT Organization: Some weird and wacky place in the superconfusing place, Swinny. Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au X-Trace: c3p0.cc.swin.edu.au 1032167136 32662 136.186.12.14 (16 Sep 2002 09:05:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@swin.edu.au NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Sep 2002 09:05:36 GMT X-Face: "$j_Mi4]y1OBC/&z_^bNEN.b2?Nq4#6U/FiE}PPag?w3'vo79[]J_w+gQ7}d4emsX+`'Uh*.GPj}6jr\XLj|R^AI,5On^QZm2xlEnt4Xj]Ia">r37r<@S.qQKK;Y,oKBl<1.sP8r,umBRH';vjULF^fydLBbHJ"tP?/1@iDFsKkXRq`]Jl51PWN0D0%rty(`3Jx3nYg! User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.optus.net.au!optus!vrn.edu.au!news.swin.edu.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116769 Goran Larsson (aka Bruce) was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: > In article , > Brian Inglis wrote: > >> I prefer the unambiguous DEC/Oracle/Unix alpha month display >> format dd-Mon-yyyy, to which no one seems to object, for any >> human readable output. > > I object to it. > 1. It gives me terrible flashbacks to the early '80-ies when I > used VMS. > 2. What language should be used for the month? All languages > does not use three letter abbreviations of english month names! > There must be some language where some of its abbreviations > indicate a different month than the english abbreviation. If everyone used english and lisp, the world would be a much better place. And, if everyone used Emacs too, well, we would just be in heaven then ;) -- TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ I found love in rhod and you can too...well, not all of you...not the smelly amongst you -- Kimberly Chapman ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.67.16.79 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: <62mbou4nl6hi4aqls3qvvs1qhsn7c5ojql@4ax.com> References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 34 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:25:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1032182704 24.71.223.147 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 07:25:04 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 07:25:04 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!newsfeed.news2me.com!ps01-sjc1!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116815 On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 07:18:08 GMT, hoh@invalid.invalid (Goran Larsson) wrote: >In article , >Brian Inglis wrote: > >> I prefer the unambiguous DEC/Oracle/Unix alpha month display >> format dd-Mon-yyyy, to which no one seems to object, for any >> human readable output. > >I object to it. > 1. It gives me terrible flashbacks to the early '80-ies when I > used VMS. > 2. What language should be used for the month? All languages > does not use three letter abbreviations of english month names! > There must be some language where some of its abbreviations > indicate a different month than the english abbreviation. Mon was intended and chosen to convey the i18n month abbreviation, up to 4 glyphs long (e.g. janv/fevr/mars/...), not just the english 3 letter variety, which I thought of using and would have designated as Mmm. I take it, then, that VMS/DCL did not have National Language Support selectable by user and extending to dates? -- Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply tosspam@aol.com abuse@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@msn.com abuse@sprint.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@cadvision.com abuse@ibsystems.com uce@ftc.gov spam traps ###### From: "psc_kent" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Lines: 21 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.242.18.196 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssrv26.news.prodigy.com 1032185444 ST000 209.242.18.196 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:10:44 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:10:44 CDT Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: TSU[@SJDTJBYG\MSNKK^_T\B\JYL@DHLLBWLOOAFJYWZUYICD^RAQBKZQTZTX\_I[^G_KGFNON[ZOE_AZNVO^\XGGNTCIRPIJH[@RQKBXLRZ@CD^HKANYVW@RLGEZEJN@\_WZJBNZYYKVIOR]T]MNMG_Z[YVWSCH_Q[GPC_A@CARQVXDSDA^M]@DRVUM@RBM Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 14:10:44 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssrv26.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116736 "Hank Oredson" wrote in message news:CO9h9.14461$1C2.1176605@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > "Simon Slavin" wrote in message > news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... > > A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event > > was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and > > wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to > > have responded with the single line > > > > 20021012T143000 > > > > He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd > > never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. > > > Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) It is not at all obvious to me what time zone is represented ;-) ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:11:39 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-907.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!feedme.news.mediaways.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116798 In article , Brian Inglis wrote: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:51:45 -0400, Howard S Shubs > wrote: > >In article <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> > >Brian Boutel wrote: > >>"Simon Slavin" > >>wrote in message news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... > > >> If you assume that the sender is USian, then it's October 12. Other > >> people might code December 10 this way. > > >Uh, no. The US doesn't code YMD. > > They do when they comply with standards -- X.12 EDI uses ISO > format Correct, however Mr. Slavin is the one you need to speak with, not me. -- Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:12:37 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-939.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116800 In article , hoh@invalid.invalid (Goran Larsson) wrote: > I object to it. > 1. It gives me terrible flashbacks to the early '80-ies when I > used VMS. This is a bad thing? > 2. What language should be used for the month? All languages > does not use three letter abbreviations of english month names! That just means those people need to face up to reality and learn English. But not just ANY English, -American- English. -- Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: hoh@invalid.invalid (Goran Larsson) Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Message-ID: Organization: [1] + 5934 done /bin/rm -rf ~/ & X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test73 (May 24, 2000) References: <62mbou4nl6hi4aqls3qvvs1qhsn7c5ojql@4ax.com> Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.244.213.116 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 1032186664 130.244.213.116 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:31:04 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:31:04 MET DST X-Sender: -@isdn213-1-116.swipnet.se Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 14:21:16 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!uio.no!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!192.71.180.34!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116812 In article <62mbou4nl6hi4aqls3qvvs1qhsn7c5ojql@4ax.com>, Brian Inglis wrote: > Mon was intended and chosen to convey the i18n month > abbreviation, up to 4 glyphs long (e.g. janv/fevr/mars/...), not > just the english 3 letter variety, which I thought of using and > would have designated as Mmm. The "Mon" vs. "Mmm" designation was not obvious from your article. > I take it, then, that VMS/DCL did not have National Language > Support selectable by user and extending to dates? I did not see anything like that when I used/programmed/administered VMS between 1983 and 1987. Never looked back after escaping to Unix in 1987. -- Göran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com ###### From: "Hank Oredson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Lines: 34 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:11:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.204.53 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1032189078 12.81.204.53 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:11:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:11:18 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116775 "psc_kent" wrote in message news:EDlh9.9411$yt3.4644721@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com... > "Hank Oredson" wrote in message > news:CO9h9.14461$1C2.1176605@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > > > "Simon Slavin" wrote in message > > news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... > > > A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event > > > was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and > > > wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to > > > have responded with the single line > > > > > > 20021012T143000 > > > > > > He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd > > > never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. > > > > > > Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) > > It is not at all obvious to me what time zone is represented ;-) GMT since no offset was given ;-) -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net ###### From: "GerardS" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:20:52 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 1095 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-05!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116791 | Goran Larsson wrote: |> Brian Inglis wrote: |> I prefer the unambiguous DEC/Oracle/Unix alpha month display |> format dd-Mon-yyyy, to which no one seems to object, for any |> human readable output. | | I object to it. | 1. It gives me terrible flashbacks to the early '80-ies when I | used VMS. | 2. What language should be used for the month? All languages | does not use three letter abbreviations of english month names! | There must be some language where some of its abbreviations | indicate a different month than the english abbreviation. There are plenty of languages where the first three letters aren't unique to any month. However, in 74 or so languages that I support in my $DATE conversion routine (written in REXX), no non-English language has an abbreviated three-character month that is not consistant with a wrong English-spelled month. Wow! Does that sentence make sense? By the way, I also have a day-of-the-week name list. In any case, here is my list. Some characters won't be displayed correctly as I composed the list using the "standard" DOS code-page. _________________________________________________________Gerard S. --------------------------------------- ENglish months of the year January ---> January February ---> February March ---> March April ---> April May ---> May June ---> June July ---> July August ---> August September ---> September October ---> October November ---> November December ---> December --------------------------------------- AFrikaans months of the year January ---> Januarie February ---> Februarie March ---> Maart April ---> April May ---> Mei June ---> Junie July ---> Julie August ---> Augustus September ---> September October ---> Oktober November ---> November December ---> Desember --------------------------------------- ALbanian months of the year January ---> janar February ---> shkurt March ---> mars April ---> prill May ---> maj June ---> qershor July ---> korrik August ---> gusht September ---> shtator October ---> tetor November ---> n‰ntor December ---> dhjetor --------------------------------------- ARAbic months of the year January ---> Yanair February ---> Febrair March ---> Maris April ---> Apreel May ---> Mayo June ---> Yonia July ---> Yolia August ---> Aagostos September ---> Septamber October ---> Octobar November ---> Novamber December ---> Disamiber --------------------------------------- ARMenian months of the year January ---> Hounvar February ---> Pedervar March ---> Mard April ---> Abril May ---> Mayiss June ---> Houniss July ---> Houliss August ---> Okosdos September ---> Sebdemper October ---> Hogdemper November ---> Noyemper December ---> Tegdemper --------------------------------------- AUsturian months of the year January ---> xineru February ---> febreru March ---> marzu April ---> abril May ---> mayu June ---> xunu July ---> xunetu August ---> agostu September ---> setiembre October ---> ochobre November ---> payares December ---> avientu --------------------------------------- AZerbaijani months of the year January ---> Yanvar February ---> Fevral March ---> Mart April ---> Aprel May ---> May June ---> €yun July ---> €yul August ---> Avqust September ---> Sentyabr October ---> Oktyabr November ---> Noyabr December ---> Dekabr --------------------------------------- BAsque months of the year January ---> Urtarrila February ---> Otsaila March ---> Martxoa April ---> Apirila May ---> Maiatza June ---> Ekaina July ---> Uztaila August ---> Abuztua September ---> Iraila October ---> Urria November ---> Azaroa December ---> Abendua --------------------------------------- BEngali months of the year January ---> January February ---> February March ---> March April ---> April May ---> May June ---> June July ---> July August ---> August September ---> September October ---> October November ---> November December ---> December --------------------------------------- BOsnian months of the year January ---> Januar February ---> Februar March ---> Mart April ---> April May ---> Maj June ---> Juni July ---> Juli August ---> August September ---> Septembar October ---> Oktobar November ---> Novembar December ---> Decembar --------------------------------------- BUlgarian months of the year January ---> ianuari February ---> fevruari March ---> mart April ---> april May ---> mai June ---> juni July ---> juli August ---> avgust September ---> septemvri October ---> oktomvri November ---> noemvri December ---> dekemvri --------------------------------------- CAtalan months of the year January ---> Gener February ---> Febrer March ---> Mar‡ April ---> Abril May ---> Maig June ---> Juny July ---> Juliol August ---> Agost September ---> Setembre October ---> Octubre November ---> Novembre December ---> Desembre --------------------------------------- CREole months of the year January ---> janvye February ---> fevriye March ---> mas April ---> avril May ---> me June ---> jen July ---> jug‚ August ---> out September ---> septanm October ---> okt•b November ---> novanm December ---> desanrn --------------------------------------- CROatian months of the year January ---> sijecxanj February ---> veljacxa March ---> ozxujak April ---> travanj May ---> svibanj June ---> lipanj July ---> srpanj August ---> kolovoz September ---> rujan October ---> listopad November ---> studeni December ---> prosinac --------------------------------------- CZech months of the year January ---> leden February ---> £nor March ---> br^ezen April ---> duben May ---> kve^ten, m j June ---> c^erven July ---> c^ervenec August ---> srpen September ---> z r^” October ---> r^”jen November ---> listopad December ---> prosinec --------------------------------------- DAnish months of the year January ---> januar February ---> februar March ---> marts April ---> april May ---> maj June ---> juni July ---> juli August ---> august September ---> september October ---> oktober November ---> november December ---> december --------------------------------------- DUtch months of the year January ---> januari February ---> februari March ---> maart April ---> april May ---> mei June ---> juni July ---> juli August ---> augustus September ---> september October ---> oktober November ---> november December ---> december --------------------------------------- ESPeranto months of the year January ---> Januaro February ---> Februaro March ---> Marto April ---> Aprilo May ---> Majo June ---> Junio July ---> Julio August ---> A—gusto September ---> Septembro October ---> Oktobro November ---> Novembro December ---> Decembro --------------------------------------- ESTonian months of the year January ---> jaanuar February ---> veebruar March ---> m„rts April ---> aprill May ---> mai June ---> juuni July ---> juuli August ---> august September ---> september October ---> oktoober November ---> november December ---> detsember --------------------------------------- FArsi months of the year January ---> Jan'vee'eh February ---> Feb'ree'eh March ---> March April ---> Av'reel May ---> May June ---> Ju'an July ---> July August ---> Au'gost September ---> Sep'tambr October ---> Oc'tobr November ---> No'vambr December ---> De'sambr --------------------------------------- FInnish months of the year January ---> tammikuu February ---> helmikuu March ---> maaliskuu April ---> huhtikuu May ---> toukokuu June ---> kes„kuu July ---> hein„kuuo August ---> ilokuu September ---> syyskuu October ---> lokahuu November ---> marraskuu December ---> joulukuu --------------------------------------- FRench months of the year January ---> janvier February ---> f‚vrier March ---> mars April ---> avril May ---> mai June ---> juin July ---> juillet August ---> ao–t September ---> septembre October ---> octobre November ---> novembre December ---> d‚cembre --------------------------------------- GAlician months of the year January ---> Janeiro February ---> Fevreiro March ---> Mar‡o April ---> Abril May ---> Maio June ---> Junho July ---> Julho August ---> Agosto September ---> Setembro October ---> Outubro November ---> Novembro December ---> Dezembro --------------------------------------- GErman months of the year January ---> Januar February ---> Februar March ---> M„rz April ---> April May ---> Mai June ---> Juni July ---> Juli August ---> August September ---> September October ---> Oktober November ---> November December ---> Dezember --------------------------------------- GReek months of the year January ---> Ianoua'rios February ---> Febroua'rios March ---> Ma'rtios April ---> Apri'lios May ---> Ma'ios June ---> Iou'nios July ---> Iou'lios August ---> A'bgoustos September ---> Septe'mbrios October ---> Okto'brios November ---> Noe'mbrios December ---> Deke'mbrios --------------------------------------- HAwaiian months of the year January ---> i nauli February ---> pepeluali March ---> malaki April ---> `apelila May ---> mei June ---> iune July ---> iulai August ---> `aukake September ---> kepakemapa October ---> `okakopa November ---> nowemapa December ---> k‚k‚mapa --------------------------------------- HEbrew months of the year January ---> Yanu'ar February ---> Febru'ar March ---> Mertz April ---> April May ---> Mai June ---> Yuni July ---> Yuli August ---> Ogust September ---> September October ---> October November ---> November December ---> Detsember --------------------------------------- HIndi months of the year January ---> januari February ---> february March ---> march April ---> april May ---> may June ---> june July ---> july August ---> august September ---> september October ---> october November ---> november December ---> december --------------------------------------- HUngarian months of the year January ---> Janu r February ---> Febru r March ---> M rcius April ---> prilis May ---> M jus June ---> J£nius July ---> J£lius August ---> Augusztus September ---> Szeptember October ---> Okt¢ber November ---> November December ---> December --------------------------------------- ICelandic months of the year January ---> Jan£ar February ---> Febr£ar March ---> Mars April ---> Apr”l May ---> Ma” June ---> J£n” July ---> J£l” August ---> gust September ---> September October ---> Okt¢ber November ---> N¢vember December ---> Desember --------------------------------------- IDo months of the year January ---> januaro February ---> februaro March ---> marto April ---> aprilo May ---> mayo June ---> junio July ---> julio August ---> agosto September ---> septembro October ---> oktobro November ---> novembro December ---> decembro --------------------------------------- INDonesian months of the year January ---> Januari February ---> Februari March ---> Maret April ---> April May ---> Mei June ---> Juni July ---> Juli August ---> Agustus September ---> September October ---> Oktober November ---> Nopember December ---> Desember --------------------------------------- INTerlinua months of the year January ---> Januario February ---> Februario March ---> Martio April ---> April May ---> Maio June ---> Junio July ---> Julio August ---> Augusto September ---> Septembre October ---> Octobre November ---> Novembre December ---> Decembre --------------------------------------- IRish months of the year January ---> Eanair February ---> Feabhra March ---> M rta April ---> Aibre n May ---> Bealtaine June ---> Meitheamh July ---> I£il August ---> L£nasa September ---> Me n Fomhair October ---> Deireadh Fomhair November ---> Samhain December ---> Nollaig --------------------------------------- ITalian months of the year January ---> gennaio February ---> febbraio March ---> marzo April ---> aprile May ---> maggio June ---> guigno July ---> luglio August ---> agosto September ---> settembre October ---> ottobre November ---> nobembre December ---> dicembre --------------------------------------- JApanese months of the year January ---> Ichi gatsu February ---> Ni gatsu March ---> San gatsu April ---> Shi gatsu May ---> Go gatsu June ---> Roku gatsu July ---> Shichi gatsu August ---> Hachi gatsu September ---> Ku gatsu October ---> Juu gatsu November ---> Juu ichi gatsu December ---> Juu ni gatsu --------------------------------------- KOrean months of the year January ---> Il-wol February ---> Yi-wol March ---> Sam-wol April ---> Sa-wol May ---> O-wol June ---> Yu-wol July ---> Chil-wol August ---> Pal-wol September ---> Ku-wol October ---> Sip-wol November ---> Sip-il-wol December ---> Sip-yi-wol --------------------------------------- KReyol months of the year January ---> janvye February ---> fevriye March ---> mas April ---> avril May ---> me June ---> jen July ---> jug‚ August ---> out September ---> septanm October ---> okt•b November ---> novanm December ---> desanrn --------------------------------------- LATIn months of the year January ---> Ianuarius February ---> Februarius March ---> Martius April ---> Aprilis May ---> Maius June ---> Iunius July ---> Iulius August ---> Augustus September ---> September October ---> October November ---> Novembris December ---> December --------------------------------------- LATVian months of the year January ---> janva-rs February ---> februa-ris March ---> marts April ---> apri-lis May ---> maijs June ---> ju-nijs July ---> ju-lijs August ---> augusts September ---> septembris October ---> oktobris November ---> novembris December ---> decembris --------------------------------------- LIthuanian months of the year January ---> Sausis February ---> Vasaris March ---> Kovas April ---> Balandis May ---> Geguz^‰ June ---> Birz^elis July ---> Liepa August ---> Rugpju~tis September ---> Rugse'jis October ---> Spalis November ---> Lapkritis December ---> Gruodis --------------------------------------- MANDaria months of the year January ---> yi- y—e February ---> Šr y—e March ---> san- y—e April ---> s y—e May ---> wuv y—e June ---> li— y—e July ---> q y—e August ---> b… y—e September ---> jiuv y—e October ---> sh” y—e November ---> sh” yi- y—e December ---> sh” Šr y—e --------------------------------------- MANX months of the year January ---> Jerrey Geuree February ---> Toshiaght Arree March ---> Mean Arree April ---> Jerry Arree May ---> Toshiaght Souree June ---> Mean Souree July ---> Jerry Souree August ---> Toshight Fouyir September ---> Mean Fouyir October ---> Jerry Fouyir November ---> Toshight Gheuree December ---> Mee veanagh y gheuree --------------------------------------- MARshallese months of the year January ---> Jenore February ---> Peppore March ---> Maaj April ---> Epril May ---> Mei June ---> Juun July ---> Julae August ---> Aokej September ---> Jeptemba October ---> Oktoba November ---> Nobomba December ---> Tiijemba --------------------------------------- MElayu months of the year January ---> Januari February ---> Febuari March ---> Mac April ---> April May ---> Mei June ---> Jun July ---> Julai August ---> Ogos September ---> September October ---> Oktober November ---> November December ---> Disember --------------------------------------- NEWLatin months of the year January ---> Ianuarius February ---> Februarius March ---> Martius April ---> Aprilis May ---> Maius June ---> Iunius July ---> Iulius August ---> Augustus September ---> September October ---> October November ---> November December ---> December --------------------------------------- NORwegian months of the year January ---> januar February ---> februar March ---> mars April ---> april May ---> mai June ---> juni July ---> juli August ---> august September ---> september October ---> oktober November ---> november December ---> desember --------------------------------------- OCcitan months of the year January ---> geniŠr, janviŠr February ---> febriŠr March ---> mar‡ April ---> abril May ---> mai June ---> junh July ---> julhet August ---> agost September ---> setembre October ---> oct•bre November ---> novembre December ---> decembre --------------------------------------- OLDAzerbaijani months of the year January ---> Yanvar February ---> Fevral March ---> Mart April ---> Aprel May ---> May June ---> €yun July ---> €yul August ---> Avqust September ---> Sentyabr October ---> Oktyabr November ---> Noyabr December ---> Dekabr --------------------------------------- OLDEygpt months of the year January ---> January February ---> February March ---> March April ---> April May ---> May June ---> June July ---> July August ---> August September ---> September October ---> October November ---> November December ---> December --------------------------------------- OLDDutch months of the year January ---> louwmaand February ---> sprokkelmaand March ---> lentemaand April ---> grasmaand May ---> bloeimaand June ---> zomermaand July ---> hooimaand August ---> oogstmaand September ---> herfstmaand October ---> wijhmaand November ---> slachtmaand December ---> wintermaand --------------------------------------- OLDGAlician months of the year January ---> Xaneiro February ---> Febreiro March ---> Marzo April ---> Abril May ---> Maio June ---> Xu¤o July ---> Xullo August ---> Agosto September ---> Setembro October ---> Outubro November ---> Novembro December ---> Decembro --------------------------------------- OLDGErman months of the year January ---> Januar February ---> Februar March ---> M„rz April ---> April May ---> Mai June ---> Juni July ---> Juli August ---> August September ---> September October ---> Oktober November ---> November December ---> Dezember --------------------------------------- OLDLatin months of the year January ---> Ianuarius February ---> Februarius March ---> Martius April ---> Aprilis May ---> Maius June ---> Iunius July ---> Quintus August ---> Sextus September ---> September October ---> October November ---> November December ---> December --------------------------------------- OLDMandaria months of the year January ---> yi- y—e February ---> Šr y—e March ---> san- y—e April ---> s y—e May ---> wuv y—e June ---> li— y—e July ---> q y—e August ---> b… y—e September ---> jiuv y—e October ---> sh” y—e November ---> sh” yi- y—e December ---> sh” Šr y—e --------------------------------------- POLish months of the year January ---> styczen' February ---> luty March ---> marzec April ---> kwiecien' May ---> maj June ---> czerwiec July ---> lipiec August ---> sierpien' September ---> wrzesien' October ---> paz,dziernik November ---> listopad December ---> grudzien' --------------------------------------- PORtuguese months of the year January ---> Janeiro February ---> Fevereijo March ---> Mar‡o April ---> Abril May ---> Maio June ---> Junho July ---> Julho August ---> Agosto September ---> Septembro October ---> Outubro November ---> Novembro December ---> Dezembro --------------------------------------- ROmanian months of the year January ---> Ianuarie February ---> Februarie March ---> Martie April ---> Aprilie May ---> Mai June ---> Iunie July ---> Iulie August ---> August September ---> Septembrie October ---> Octombrie November ---> Noiembrie December ---> Decembrie --------------------------------------- RUssian months of the year January ---> janvar February ---> fevral March ---> mart April ---> aprel May ---> mai June ---> iyun July ---> iyul August ---> august September ---> sentyabr October ---> oktyabr November ---> noyabr December ---> dekabr --------------------------------------- SERbian months of the year January ---> januar February ---> februar March ---> mart April ---> april May ---> maj June ---> jun July ---> jul August ---> avgust September ---> septembar October ---> oktobar November ---> novembar December ---> decembar --------------------------------------- SESotho months of the year January ---> Pherekgong February ---> Hlakola March ---> Hlakubele April ---> Mmesa May ---> Motsheanong June ---> Phupjane July ---> Phupu August ---> Phato September ---> Leotse October ---> Mphalane November ---> Pundungwane December ---> Tshitwe --------------------------------------- SLOVAk months of the year January ---> janu r February ---> febru r March ---> marec April ---> apr”l May ---> m j June ---> j£n July ---> j£l August ---> august September ---> september October ---> okt¢ber November ---> november December ---> december --------------------------------------- SLOVEnian months of the year January ---> Januar February ---> Februar March ---> Marec April ---> April May ---> Maj June ---> Junij July ---> Julij August ---> Avgust September ---> September October ---> Oktober November ---> November December ---> December --------------------------------------- SPanish months of the year January ---> enero February ---> febrero March ---> marzo April ---> abril May ---> mayo June ---> junio July ---> julio August ---> agosto September ---> septiembre October ---> octubre November ---> noviembre December ---> diciembre --------------------------------------- SWAhili months of the year January ---> Januari February ---> Februari March ---> Machi April ---> Aprili May ---> Mei June ---> Juni July ---> Julai August ---> Augosti September ---> Septemba October ---> Oktoba November ---> Novemba December ---> Disemba --------------------------------------- SWEdish months of the year January ---> januari February ---> februari March ---> mars April ---> april May ---> maj June ---> juni July ---> juli August ---> augusti September ---> september October ---> oktober November ---> november December ---> december --------------------------------------- TAGalog months of the year January ---> Enero February ---> Pebrero March ---> Marso April ---> Abril May ---> Mayo June ---> Hunyo July ---> Hulyo August ---> Agosto September ---> Septiyembre October ---> Oktubre November ---> Nobiyembre December ---> Disyembre --------------------------------------- TAIwanese months of the year January ---> Chia¤--go‚h February ---> J‹--go‚h March ---> Sa¤--go‚h April ---> S--go‚h May ---> G™.--go‚h June ---> L k--go‚h July ---> Chhit--go‚h August ---> Peh--go‚h September ---> K u--go‚h October ---> Ch p--go‚h November ---> Ch p-it--go‚h December ---> Ch p-j‹--go‚h --------------------------------------- THai months of the year January ---> mak-ka-ra-kom February ---> koem-phaa-phan March ---> mee-na-kom April ---> me-saa-jon May ---> phut-sa-phaa-khom June ---> mi-tu-na-yon July ---> ka-rak-ka-da-kom August ---> sing-ha-kom September ---> kun-ya-yon October ---> tu-la-kom November ---> phut-sa-tji-kaa-jon December ---> than-waa-khom --------------------------------------- TUrkish months of the year January ---> Ocak February ---> ,Subat March ---> Mart April ---> Nisan May ---> Mayžs June ---> Haziran July ---> Temmuz August ---> A-gustos September ---> Eylšl October ---> Ekim November ---> Kasžm December ---> Aralžk --------------------------------------- UKranian months of the year January ---> sichen' February ---> lyutyy' March ---> berezen' April ---> kviten' May ---> traven' June ---> cherven' July ---> lypen' August ---> serpen' September ---> veresen' October ---> zhovten' November ---> lystopad December ---> hruden' --------------------------------------- VIetnamese months of the year January ---> Th ng M“.t February ---> Th ng Hai March ---> Th ng Ba April ---> Th ng Tu* May ---> Th ng Na'm June ---> Th ng S u July ---> Th ng Ba?y August ---> Th ng T m September ---> Th ng Ch”n October ---> Th ng Mu*•*i November ---> Th ng Mu*•*i M“.t December ---> Th ng Mu*•*i Hai --------------------------------------- WElsh months of the year January ---> Ionawr February ---> Chwefror March ---> Mawrth April ---> Ebrill May ---> Mai June ---> Mehefin July ---> Gorffennaf August ---> Awst September ---> Medi October ---> Hydref November ---> Tachwedd December ---> Rhagfyr --------------------------------------- XHosa months of the year January ---> January February ---> February March ---> eyokwindla April ---> April May ---> tshazimpunzi June ---> silimela July ---> eyekhala August ---> August September ---> September October ---> October November ---> eyomsintsi December ---> eyomnga --------------------------------------- YIddish months of the year January ---> Yanuar February ---> Februar March ---> Marts April ---> April May ---> May June ---> Yuni July ---> Yuli August ---> Oygust September ---> September October ---> Oktober November ---> November December ---> Detsember --------------------------------------- ZUlu months of the year January ---> uJanuwari February ---> uFebuwari March ---> uMashi April ---> uAprhili May ---> uMeyi June ---> uJuni July ---> uJulayi August ---> uAgaste September ---> uSepthemba October ---> u-Okthoba November ---> uNovemba December ---> uDisemba ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW References: Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Message-ID: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> Lines: 11 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:07:21 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.254.140.169 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1032219010 62.254.140.169 (Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:30:10 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:30:10 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116852 According to Howard S Shubs : > That just means those people need to face up to reality and learn > English. But not just ANY English, -American- English. Er, do month names in American differ from those in English? Chris. -- "If the world was an orange it would be like much too small, y'know?" Neil, '84 Chris Hedley -- cbh(at)ieya(dot)co(dot)uk http://cbh.paunix.org My stuff, including genealogy, other things, etc ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW References: Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Message-ID: Lines: 25 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:11:52 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.254.140.169 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1032219014 62.254.140.169 (Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:30:14 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:30:14 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!eusc.inter.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116865 According to GerardS : > There are plenty of languages where the first three letters aren't > unique to any month. However, in 74 or so languages that I support > in my $DATE conversion routine (written in REXX), no non-English > language has an abbreviated three-character month that is not > consistant with a wrong English-spelled month. Wow! Does that > sentence make sense? By the way, I also have a day-of-the-week > name list. 74? Eeek. I've recently been fiddling about with a program that understands the LDS GEDcom genealogy file format and spent a while reading through the specs; the supported month formats are English, for Gregorian and Julian dates, French Revolutionary and Hebrew. A rather eclectic combination, I thought. My little program recognises them all (not difficult since it stipulates an escaped string to identify the calendar type) even though I'm not expecting to see any French Revolutionary or Hebrew dates crop up in my rather modest project! Chris. -- "If the world was an orange it would be like much too small, y'know?" Neil, '84 Chris Hedley -- cbh(at)ieya(dot)co(dot)uk http://cbh.paunix.org My stuff, including genealogy, other things, etc ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:00:33 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-815.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!eusc.inter.net!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!216.148.52.16!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116904 In article <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet>, cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: > According to Howard S Shubs : > > That just means those people need to face up to reality and learn > > English. But not just ANY English, -American- English. > > Er, do month names in American differ from those in English? Just in case. -- Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship ###### Message-ID: <3D8699C9.7060204@boutel.co.nz> From: Brian Boutel Organization: X User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 59 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:56:09 +1200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.96.144.148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tsnz.net X-Trace: news02.tsnz.net 1032231369 203.96.144.148 (Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:56:09 NZST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:56:09 NZST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!news02.tsnz.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116846 Hank Oredson wrote: > "Brian Boutel" wrote in message > news:3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz... > >> >>Hank Oredson wrote: >> >>>"Simon Slavin" wrote in message >>>news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... >>> >>> >>>>A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event >>>>was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and >>>>wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to >>>>have responded with the single line >>>> >>>>20021012T143000 >>>> >>>>He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd >>>>never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. >>> >>> >>> >>>Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) >>> >> >>If you assume that the sender is USian, then it's October 12. Other >>people might code December 10 this way. >> >>--brian > > > > Then you would also have to decide if the time was 14:00:30 or 14:30:00 :-) > Looks to me like it is a sortable format, so the date would be October. > That's making an assumption that may not be justified. I write today's date as 17/9/2002, not 9/17/2002, as do many other people in many countries. Even with the year first, I would be wary of depending on people reading dat strings in one particular way. But I don't see the time as open to misinterpretation, unless someone is silly enough to use a 12hr clock without an am/pm indication. Thinking about it, that's just what my oven and microwave do :-( --brian -- Brian Boutel Wellington New Zealand Note the NOSPAM ###### From: "John Homes" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:24:38 +1200 Organization: EDS (New Zealand) Lines: 72 Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> <3D8699C9.7060204@boutel.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-134-251-233-156.dhcp.nz.eds.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!xmission!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!news02.tsnz.net!newsfeed01.tsnz.net!gonzo.nz.eds.com!news.nz.eds.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116873 "Brian Boutel" wrote in message news:3D8699C9.7060204@boutel.co.nz... > > > Hank Oredson wrote: > > "Brian Boutel" wrote in message > > news:3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz... > > > >> > >>Hank Oredson wrote: > >> > >>>"Simon Slavin" wrote in message > >>>news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... > >>> > >>> > >>>>A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event > >>>>was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and > >>>>wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to > >>>>have responded with the single line > >>>> > >>>>20021012T143000 > >>>> > >>>>He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd > >>>>never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) > >>> > >> > >>If you assume that the sender is USian, then it's October 12. Other > >>people might code December 10 this way. > >> > >>--brian > > > > > > > > Then you would also have to decide if the time was 14:00:30 or 14:30:00 :-) > > Looks to me like it is a sortable format, so the date would be October. > > > > That's making an assumption that may not be justified. > > I write today's date as 17/9/2002, not 9/17/2002, as do many other > people in many countries. Even with the year first, I would be wary of > depending on people reading dat strings in one particular way. > But with the year leading, both the rational "put the month in the middle" and the American "put the month before the day" convention give the same interpretation. I don't think *anyone* has been stupid enough to propose putting the month at the end. And if the year is not leading, then it doesn't matter, because he's missed the event by 990 years anyway. > But I don't see the time as open to misinterpretation, unless someone is > silly enough to use a 12hr clock without an am/pm indication. > > Thinking about it, that's just what my oven and microwave do :-( > This is the one flaw in the otherwise superior analogue (with a dial and hands) representation. I suppose they think if it's tolerable there, it's acceptable in cheap and nasty digital form. John Homes. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.67.16.79 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 37 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 05:19:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1032239965 24.71.223.147 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:19:25 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:19:25 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!ps01-chi1!ps01-sjc1!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116841 On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:00:33 -0400, Howard S Shubs wrote: >In article <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet>, > cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: > >> According to Howard S Shubs : >> > That just means those people need to face up to reality and learn >> > English. But not just ANY English, -American- English. >> >> Er, do month names in American differ from those in English? > >Just in case. Who uses anything other than Initial Caps in English -- although AFAIK the French do use all lower. ;^> What are you posting from/to and is there significance in your header lines copied below? Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ -- Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply tosspam@aol.com abuse@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@msn.com abuse@sprint.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@cadvision.com abuse@ibsystems.com uce@ftc.gov spam traps ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.67.16.79 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 41 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 05:25:35 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news3.calgary.shaw.ca 1032240335 24.71.223.147 (Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:25:35 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:25:35 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!ps01-sjc1!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news3.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116911 On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:11:18 GMT, "Hank Oredson" wrote: > >"psc_kent" wrote in message >news:EDlh9.9411$yt3.4644721@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com... >> "Hank Oredson" wrote in message >> news:CO9h9.14461$1C2.1176605@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> > >> > "Simon Slavin" wrote in message >> > news:B9AAE1BD9668379E0E@10.0.1.2... >> > > A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event >> > > was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and >> > > wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to >> > > have responded with the single line >> > > >> > > 20021012T143000 >> > > >> > > He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd >> > > never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. >> > >> > >> > Well ... it IS an obvious format :-) >> >> It is not at all obvious to me what time zone is represented ;-) > >GMT since no offset was given ;-) It's normally a mutually agreed upon zone unless an explicit zone is given: in the case of a physical event, that of the event location would be a useful value. -- Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply tosspam@aol.com abuse@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@msn.com abuse@sprint.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@cadvision.com abuse@ibsystems.com uce@ftc.gov spam traps ###### Message-ID: <3D86F9FD.5080909@boutel.co.nz> From: Brian Boutel Organization: X User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> <3D8699C9.7060204@boutel.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:46:37 +1200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.96.144.148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tsnz.net X-Trace: news02.tsnz.net 1032255997 203.96.144.148 (Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:46:37 NZST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:46:37 NZST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!news-out.newsfeeds.com!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!news02.tsnz.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116847 John Homes wrote: > > But with the year leading, both the rational "put the month in the middle" > and the American "put the month before the day" convention give the same > interpretation. I don't think *anyone* has been stupid enough to propose > putting the month at the end. > Isn't there an old saying about nobody ever losing money by underestimating the intelligence of the public? --brian -- Brian Boutel Wellington New Zealand Note the NOSPAM ###### From: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: 17 Sep 2002 11:39:31 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> <3D8699C9.7060204@boutel.co.nz> <3D86F9FD.5080909@boutel.co.nz> Reply-To: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet10 X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1032262771 26305 134.117.136.30 (17 Sep 2002 11:39:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Sep 2002 11:39:31 GMT X-Given-Sender: ab528@freenet10.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab528 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116891 Brian Boutel (brianNOSPAM@boutel.co.nz) writes: > > Isn't there an old saying about nobody ever losing money by > underestimating the intelligence of the public? Back in the late 60's, and well into the 70's, this was pronounced as "Nobody got fired for buying IBM." Of course, this was in reference to buying actual IBM product, unlike today, when IBM is largely a sales front for the M$-Intel axis. ###### From: "GerardS" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:35:12 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 27 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone1.gnilink.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-05!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116899 | Janne Rinta-Mänty wrote: |> GerardS wrote: |> There are plenty of languages where the first three letters aren't |> unique to any month. However, in 74 or so languages that I support |> in my $DATE conversion routine (written in REXX), no non-English |> language has an abbreviated three-character month that is not |> consistant with a wrong English-spelled month. Wow! Does that |> sentence make sense? | Ummm... no? Yes? I don't know? | | [Snip impressive list of month names] | Some corrections: |> --------------------------------------- FInnish months of the year |> July ---> heinäkuuo | heinäkuu | |> August ---> ilokuu | elokuu | |> October ---> lokahuu | lokakuu Thank for the corrections. I wonder how many other typos I have. _____________________________________________________________Gerard S. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Wed, 18 Sep 02 11:59:08 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYB6Vp2oTZoOKO9jyD6dLMaE1LXJqDrkSOvybtKVxf3aGK22wZDIzzg X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Sep 2002 13:13:14 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!209-122-234-198 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117027 In article , ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: >Howard S Shubs (howard@shubs.net) writes: >> >.... >>> X-Face: >> >> The X-Face header is a little bitmapped image which some newsreaders >> know how to display. If you can display mine, you'll see me as I was in >> 1995. > > If there's hair on the head, you're too young to post here. B-) That would include me. Unless you're trying to exclude the population to only bald babies. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: David Given Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Organization: Disorganised Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> User-Agent: Pan/0.11.2 (Unix) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: "Brian Inglis" Lines: 23 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:25:31 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.255.240.131 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net 1032326969 62.255.240.131 (Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:29:29 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:29:29 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117108 On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:19:25 +0100, Brian Inglis wrote: [...] > X-Face: > "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~ > VoZ=w,7@[GOQ'x"{;Ee<>~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO > > /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* > ZS5\LoW_ > It's an xface, a compressed image. Traditionally they're used to convey a picture of the poster. These days they're rather out of fashion due to a lack of mailers and newsreaders that understand them, but you still see them here or there. http://www.google.com/search?q=compface -- +- David Given --McQ-+ Did you hear about the hard-working but ill sage | dg@cowlark.com | who got cursed with garlic breath? He was a | (dg@tao-group.com) | super-calloused fragile mystic hexed with +- www.cowlark.com --+ halitosis. ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.67.16.79 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: <7dnfouog39lubkct2ke7hjef5scmhsqsvv@4ax.com> References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 46 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 02:07:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1032314829 24.71.223.147 (Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:07:09 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:07:09 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!ps01-sjc1!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:116925 On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:20:52 -0500, "GerardS" wrote: >| Goran Larsson wrote: >|> Brian Inglis wrote: >|> I prefer the unambiguous DEC/Oracle/Unix alpha month display >|> format dd-Mon-yyyy, to which no one seems to object, for any >|> human readable output. >| >| I object to it. >| 1. It gives me terrible flashbacks to the early '80-ies when I >| used VMS. >| 2. What language should be used for the month? All languages >| does not use three letter abbreviations of english month names! >| There must be some language where some of its abbreviations >| indicate a different month than the english abbreviation. > >There are plenty of languages where the first three letters aren't >unique to any month. However, in 74 or so languages that I support >in my $DATE conversion routine (written in REXX), no non-English >language has an abbreviated three-character month that is not >consistant with a wrong English-spelled month. Wow! Does that >sentence make sense? By the way, I also have a day-of-the-week >name list. Okay, let's see the day of the week list, and maybe some kind readers can check the spellings there. If you don't already have it, you might want to check out the new edition of Calendrical Calculations: The Millennium Edition, by Edward M. Reingold and Nachum Dershowitz (Cambridge University Press, 2001) with CD-ROM which contains lists of the month names used in the different calendars. Also if you haven't already, find the BSD and Linux national language support files which should have dates and days in there somewhere. -- Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply tosspam@aol.com abuse@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@msn.com abuse@sprint.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@cadvision.com abuse@ibsystems.com uce@ftc.gov spam traps ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:45:36 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-019.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117135 In article , Brian Inglis wrote: > What are you posting from/to Posting from a Macintosh, to everyone in the WHOLE world... who speaks English. > and is there significance in your > header lines copied below? > Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' I've been a FORTRAN programmer on VMS for a long time. > X-Face: The X-Face header is a little bitmapped image which some newsreaders know how to display. If you can display mine, you'll see me as I was in 1995. -- Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship ###### From: "GerardS" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:59:27 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> <7dnfouog39lubkct2ke7hjef5scmhsqsvv@4ax.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 731 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117123 | Brian Inglis wrote: |> GerardS wrote: |>| Goran Larsson wrote: |>|> Brian Inglis wrote: |>|> I prefer the unambiguous DEC/Oracle/Unix alpha month display |>|> format dd-Mon-yyyy, to which no one seems to object, for any |>|> human readable output. |>| |>| I object to it. |>| 1. It gives me terrible flashbacks to the early '80-ies when I |>| used VMS. |>| 2. What language should be used for the month? All languages |>| does not use three letter abbreviations of english month names! |>| There must be some language where some of its abbreviations |>| indicate a different month than the english abbreviation. |> |>There are plenty of languages where the first three letters aren't |>unique to any month. However, in 74 or so languages that I support |>in my $DATE conversion routine (written in REXX), no non-English |>language has an abbreviated three-character month that is not |>consistant with a wrong English-spelled month. Wow! Does that |>sentence make sense? By the way, I also have a day-of-the-week |>name list. | | Okay, let's see the day of the week list, and maybe some kind | readers can check the spellings there. | If you don't already have it, you might want to check out the new | edition of Calendrical Calculations: The Millennium Edition, by | Edward M. Reingold and | Nachum Dershowitz (Cambridge University Press, 2001) with CD-ROM | which contains lists of the month names used in the different | calendars. | Also if you haven't already, find the BSD and Linux national | language support files which should have dates and days in there | somewhere. I have no idea where to get those national language support file. Here is my list of the days-of-the-week names (not all of the special characters may be translated correctly by my or your news reader): --------------------------------------- ENglish days of the week Sunday ---> Sunday Monday ---> Monday Tuesday ---> Tuesday Wednesday ---> Wednesday Thursday ---> Thursday Friday ---> Friday Saturday ---> Saturday --------------------------------------- AFrikaans days of the week Sunday ---> Sondag Monday ---> Maandag Tuesday ---> Dinsdag Wednesday ---> Woensdag Thursday ---> Donderdag Friday ---> Vrydag Saturday ---> Saterdag --------------------------------------- ALbanian days of the week Sunday ---> E djel‰ Monday ---> E h‰n‰ Tuesday ---> E mart‰ Wednesday ---> E m‰rkur‰ Thursday ---> E enjte Friday ---> E premte Saturday ---> E shtun‰ --------------------------------------- ARAbic days of the week Sunday ---> Al Ahad Monday ---> Al Ithinin Tuesday ---> Al Tholatha'a Wednesday ---> Al Arbia'a Thursday ---> Al Kamis Friday ---> Al Gomia'a Saturday ---> Al Sabit --------------------------------------- ARMenian days of the week Sunday ---> Guiragui Monday ---> Yergou shapti Tuesday ---> Yerek shapti Wednesday ---> Tchorek shapti Thursday ---> Hink shapti Friday ---> Ourpat Saturday ---> Shapat --------------------------------------- AUsturian days of the week Sunday ---> domingu Monday ---> llunes Tuesday ---> martes Wednesday ---> mi‚rcoles Thursday ---> xueves Friday ---> vienres Saturday ---> s badu --------------------------------------- AZerbaijani days of the week Sunday ---> Bazar gšnš Monday ---> Birinci gšn Tuesday ---> €kinci gšn Wednesday ---> š‡šncš gšn Thursday ---> D™rdšncš gšn Friday ---> Bes,inci gšn Saturday ---> Alt•nc• gšn --------------------------------------- BAsque days of the week Sunday ---> Igande Monday ---> Astelehen Tuesday ---> Astearte Wednesday ---> Asteazken Thursday ---> Ostegun Friday ---> Ostiral Saturday ---> Larunbat --------------------------------------- BEngali days of the week Sunday ---> Robi bar Monday ---> Shom bar Tuesday ---> Mongal bar Wednesday ---> Budhh bar Thursday ---> BRihashpati bar Friday ---> Shukro bar Saturday ---> Shoni bar --------------------------------------- BOsnian days of the week Sunday ---> Nedjelja Monday ---> Ponedeljak Tuesday ---> Utorak Wednesday ---> Srijeda Thursday ---> Cxetvrtak Friday ---> Petak Saturday ---> Subota --------------------------------------- BUlgarian days of the week Sunday ---> nedelia Monday ---> ponedelnik Tuesday ---> vtornik Wednesday ---> sriada Thursday ---> chetvartak Friday ---> petak Saturday ---> sabota --------------------------------------- CAtalan days of the week Sunday ---> Diumenge Monday ---> Dilluns Tuesday ---> Dimarts Wednesday ---> Dimecres Thursday ---> Dijous Friday ---> Divendres Saturday ---> Dissabte --------------------------------------- CREole days of the week Sunday ---> dimanch Monday ---> lendi Tuesday ---> madi Wednesday ---> mŠkredi Thursday ---> jedi Friday ---> vandredi Saturday ---> samdi --------------------------------------- CROatian days of the week Sunday ---> nedjelja Monday ---> ponedjeljak Tuesday ---> utorak Wednesday ---> srijeda Thursday ---> cxetvrtak Friday ---> petak Saturday ---> subota --------------------------------------- CZech days of the week Sunday ---> nede^le Monday ---> ponde^l” Tuesday ---> £ter˜ Wednesday ---> str^eda Thursday ---> c^tvrtek Friday ---> p tek Saturday ---> sobota --------------------------------------- DAnish days of the week Sunday ---> s0ndag Monday ---> mandag Tuesday ---> tirsdag Wednesday ---> onsdag Thursday ---> torsdag Friday ---> fredag Saturday ---> l0rdag --------------------------------------- DUtch days of the week Sunday ---> zondag Monday ---> maandag Tuesday ---> dinsdag Wednesday ---> woensdag Thursday ---> donderdag Friday ---> vrijdag Saturday ---> zaterdag --------------------------------------- ESPeranto days of the week Sunday ---> Diman^co Monday ---> Lundo Tuesday ---> Mardo Wednesday ---> Merkredo Thursday ---> ^Ja—do Friday ---> Vendredo Saturday ---> Sabato --------------------------------------- ESTonian days of the week Sunday ---> pšhap„ev Monday ---> esmasp„ev Tuesday ---> teisip„ev Wednesday ---> kolmap„ev Thursday ---> neljap„ev Friday ---> reede Saturday ---> laup„ev --------------------------------------- FArsi days of the week Sunday ---> Yek Sham'beh Monday ---> Do Sham'beh Tuesday ---> Seh Sham'beh Wednesday ---> Cha'har Sham'beh Thursday ---> Panj Sham'beh Friday ---> Jom'eh Saturday ---> Sham'beh --------------------------------------- FInnish days of the week Sunday ---> sunnuntai Monday ---> maanantai Tuesday ---> tiistai Wednesday ---> keskiviiko Thursday ---> torsktai Friday ---> perjantai Saturday ---> lauantai --------------------------------------- FRench days of the week Sunday ---> dimanche Monday ---> lundi Tuesday ---> mardi Wednesday ---> mercredi Thursday ---> jeudi Friday ---> vendredi Saturday ---> samedi --------------------------------------- GAlician days of the week Sunday ---> Domingo Monday ---> Segunda feira Tuesday ---> Martes Wednesday ---> M‚rcores Thursday ---> Joves Friday ---> Venres Saturday ---> S bado --------------------------------------- GErman days of the week Sunday ---> Sonntag Monday ---> Montag Tuesday ---> Dienstag Wednesday ---> Mittwoch Thursday ---> Donnerstag Friday ---> Freitag Saturday ---> Samstag --------------------------------------- GReek days of the week Sunday ---> Kiriaki' Monday ---> Defte'ra Tuesday ---> Tri'ti Wednesday ---> Teta'rti Thursday ---> Pe'mpti Friday ---> Paraskebi' Saturday ---> Sa'bato --------------------------------------- HAwaiian days of the week Sunday ---> p¢pule Monday ---> p¢`akahi Tuesday ---> p¢`alua Wednesday ---> p¢`akolu Thursday ---> p¢`ah Friday ---> p¢`alima Saturday ---> p¢`aono --------------------------------------- HEbrew days of the week Sunday ---> Yom rishon Monday ---> Yom sheni Tuesday ---> Yom shlishi Wednesday ---> Yom revi'i Thursday ---> Yom chamishi Friday ---> Yom shishi Saturday ---> Shabat --------------------------------------- HIndi days of the week Sunday ---> ravivara Monday ---> somavar Tuesday ---> mangalavar Wednesday ---> budhavara Thursday ---> brahaspativar Friday ---> shukravara Saturday ---> shanivar --------------------------------------- HUngarian days of the week Sunday ---> Vas rnap Monday ---> H‚tf™ Tuesday ---> Kedd Wednesday ---> Szerda Thursday ---> Csšt™rt™k Friday ---> P‚ntek Saturday ---> Szombat --------------------------------------- ICelandic days of the week Sunday ---> Sunnudagur Monday ---> M nudagur Tuesday ---> Ęriėjudagur Wednesday ---> Miėvikudagar Thursday ---> Fimmtudagur Friday ---> F™studagur Saturday ---> Laugardagur --------------------------------------- IDo days of the week Sunday ---> sundio Monday ---> lundio Tuesday ---> mardio Wednesday ---> merkurdio Thursday ---> jovdio Friday ---> venerdio Saturday ---> saturdio --------------------------------------- INDonesian days of the week Sunday ---> Minggu Monday ---> Senin Tuesday ---> Selasa Wednesday ---> Rabu Thursday ---> Kamis Friday ---> Jumat Saturday ---> Sabtu --------------------------------------- INTerlinua days of the week Sunday ---> Dominica Monday ---> Lunedi Tuesday ---> Martedi Wednesday ---> Mercuridi Thursday ---> Jovedi Friday ---> Venerdi Saturday ---> Sabbato --------------------------------------- IRish days of the week Sunday ---> D‚ Domhnaigh Monday ---> D‚ Luain Tuesday ---> D‚ M irt Wednesday ---> D‚ Ceadaoin Thursday ---> D‚ ardaoin Friday ---> D‚ hAoine Saturday ---> D‚ Sathairn --------------------------------------- ITalian days of the week Sunday ---> domenica Monday ---> luned” Tuesday ---> marted” Wednesday ---> mercoled” Thursday ---> gioved” Friday ---> venerd” Saturday ---> sabato --------------------------------------- JApanese days of the week Sunday ---> Nichiyou bi Monday ---> Getzuyou bi Tuesday ---> Kayou bi Wednesday ---> Suiyou bi Thursday ---> Mokuyou bi Friday ---> Kin'you bi Saturday ---> Doyou bi --------------------------------------- KOrean days of the week Sunday ---> Il-yo-il Monday ---> Wol-yo-il Tuesday ---> Hwa-yo-il Wednesday ---> Su-yo-il Thursday ---> Mok-yo-il Friday ---> Kum-yo-il Saturday ---> To-yo-il --------------------------------------- KReyol days of the week Sunday ---> dimanch Monday ---> lendi Tuesday ---> madi Wednesday ---> mŠkredi Thursday ---> jedi Friday ---> vandredi Saturday ---> samdi --------------------------------------- LATIn days of the week Sunday ---> Dies Dominica Monday ---> Dies Lun‘ Tuesday ---> Dies Martis Wednesday ---> Dies Mercurii Thursday ---> Dies Iovis Friday ---> Dies Veneris Saturday ---> Dies Saturni --------------------------------------- LATVian days of the week Sunday ---> sve-tdien Monday ---> pirmdien Tuesday ---> otrdien Wednesday ---> tresvdien Thursday ---> ceturtdien Friday ---> piektdien Saturday ---> sestdien --------------------------------------- LIthuanian days of the week Sunday ---> Sekmadienis Monday ---> Pirmadienis Tuesday ---> Antradienis Wednesday ---> Trec^iadienis Thursday ---> Ketvirtadienis Friday ---> Penktadienis Saturday ---> S^es^tadienis --------------------------------------- MANDaria days of the week Sunday ---> xing- qi- r Monday ---> xing- qi- yi-. Tuesday ---> xing- qi- Šr Wednesday ---> xing- qi- san-. Thursday ---> xing- qi- s Friday ---> xing- qi- wuv. Saturday ---> xing- qi- li— --------------------------------------- MANX days of the week Sunday ---> Jedoonee Monday ---> Jelune Tuesday ---> Jemayrt Wednesday ---> Jecrean Thursday ---> Jardaim Friday ---> Jeheiney Saturday ---> Jesam --------------------------------------- MARshallese days of the week Sunday ---> Jabot Monday ---> Manre Tuesday ---> Juje Wednesday ---> Wonje Thursday ---> Taije Friday ---> Balaire Saturday ---> Jarere --------------------------------------- MElayu days of the week Sunday ---> Ahad Monday ---> Isnin Tuesday ---> Selasa Wednesday ---> Rabu Thursday ---> Khamis Friday ---> Jumaat Saturday ---> Sabtu --------------------------------------- NEWLatin days of the week Sunday ---> Dies Dominica Monday ---> Dies Lun‘ Tuesday ---> Dies Martis Wednesday ---> Dies Mercurii Thursday ---> Dies Iovis Friday ---> Dies Veneris Saturday ---> Dies Saturni --------------------------------------- NORwegian days of the week Sunday ---> s0ndag Monday ---> mandag Tuesday ---> tirsdag Wednesday ---> onsdag Thursday ---> torsdag Friday ---> fredag Saturday ---> l0rdag --------------------------------------- OCcitan days of the week Sunday ---> lo dimenge Monday ---> lo diluns Tuesday ---> lo dimar‡ Wednesday ---> lo dimŠrcres Thursday ---> lo dij•us Friday ---> lo divendres Saturday ---> lo dissabte --------------------------------------- OLDAzerbaijani days of the week Sunday ---> Bazar gšnš Monday ---> Bazar ‘rt‘si Tuesday ---> €‘rs,‘nb‘ axs,am• Wednesday ---> €‘rs,‘nb‘ gšnš Thursday ---> Cšm‘ axs,am• Friday ---> Cšm‘ gšnš Saturday ---> Cšm‘ gšnš --------------------------------------- OLDEygpt days of the week Sunday ---> Sun Monday ---> Moon Tuesday ---> Mars Wednesday ---> Mercury Thursday ---> Jove Friday ---> Venus Saturday ---> Saturn --------------------------------------- OLDDutch days of the week Sunday ---> zondag Monday ---> maandag Tuesday ---> dinsdag Wednesday ---> woensdag Thursday ---> donderdag Friday ---> vrijdag Saturday ---> zaterdag --------------------------------------- OLDGAlician days of the week Sunday ---> Domingo Monday ---> Luns Tuesday ---> Terza feira Wednesday ---> Corta feira Thursday ---> Xoves Friday ---> Venres Saturday ---> S bado --------------------------------------- OLDGErman days of the week Sunday ---> Sonntag Monday ---> Montag Tuesday ---> Dienstag Wednesday ---> Mittwoch Thursday ---> Donnerstag Friday ---> Freitag Saturday ---> Sonnabend --------------------------------------- OLDLatin days of the week Sunday ---> Dies Solis Monday ---> Dies Lunae Tuesday ---> Dies Martis Wednesday ---> Dies Mercurii Thursday ---> Dies Iovis Friday ---> Dies Veneris Saturday ---> Dies Sabbatum --------------------------------------- OLDMandaria days of the week Sunday ---> xing- qi- ti…n Monday ---> xing- qi- yi-. Tuesday ---> xing- qi- Šr Wednesday ---> xing- qi- san-. Thursday ---> xing- qi- s Friday ---> xing- qi- wuv. Saturday ---> xing- qi- li— --------------------------------------- POLish days of the week Sunday ---> Niedziela Monday ---> Poniedzial/ek Tuesday ---> Wtorek Wednesday ---> S,roda Thursday ---> Czwartek Friday ---> Pia,tek Saturday ---> Sobota --------------------------------------- PORtuguese days of the week Sunday ---> Domingo Monday ---> segunda-feire Tuesday ---> ter‡a-feire Wednesday ---> quarta-feire Thursday ---> quinta-feire Friday ---> sexta-feira Saturday ---> s†bado --------------------------------------- ROmanian days of the week Sunday ---> Duminic¦ Monday ---> Luni Tuesday ---> Mart'i Wednesday ---> Miercuri Thursday ---> Joi Friday ---> Vineri Saturday ---> Sƒmb¦t¦ --------------------------------------- RUssian days of the week Sunday ---> voskresenie Monday ---> ponedelnik Tuesday ---> vtornik Wednesday ---> sreda Thursday ---> chetverg Friday ---> pyatnitsa Saturday ---> subbota --------------------------------------- SERbian days of the week Sunday ---> nedjelja Monday ---> ponedjeljak Tuesday ---> utorak Wednesday ---> sreda Thursday ---> cxetvrtak Friday ---> petak Saturday ---> subota --------------------------------------- SESotho days of the week Sunday ---> Sontaha Monday ---> Mmantaha Tuesday ---> Labobedi Wednesday ---> Laboraro Thursday ---> Labone Friday ---> Labohlano Saturday ---> Moqebelo --------------------------------------- SLOVAk days of the week Sunday ---> nedel^a Monday ---> pondelok Tuesday ---> utorok Wednesday ---> streda Thursday ---> s^tvrtok Friday ---> piatok Saturday ---> sobota --------------------------------------- SLOVEnian days of the week Sunday ---> Nedelja Monday ---> Ponedeljek Tuesday ---> Torek Wednesday ---> Sreda Thursday ---> Cxetrtek Friday ---> Petek Saturday ---> Sobota --------------------------------------- SPanish days of the week Sunday ---> domingo Monday ---> lunes Tuesday ---> martes Wednesday ---> mi‚rcoles Thursday ---> jueves Friday ---> viernes Saturday ---> s bado --------------------------------------- SWAhili days of the week Sunday ---> Jumapili Monday ---> Jumatatu Tuesday ---> Jumanne Wednesday ---> Jumatano Thursday ---> Alhamisi Friday ---> Ijumaa Saturday ---> Jumamosi --------------------------------------- SWEdish days of the week Sunday ---> s”ndag Monday ---> m†ndag Tuesday ---> tisdag Wednesday ---> onsdag Thursday ---> torsdag Friday ---> fredag Saturday ---> lordag --------------------------------------- TAGalog days of the week Sunday ---> Linggo Monday ---> Lunes Tuesday ---> Martes Wednesday ---> Miyerkoles Thursday ---> Huwebes Friday ---> Biyernes Saturday ---> Sabado --------------------------------------- TAIwanese days of the week Sunday ---> L‚-p…i-j”t Monday ---> P…i-it Tuesday ---> P…i-j‹ Wednesday ---> P…i-sa¤ Thursday ---> P…i-s Friday ---> P…i-g™. Saturday ---> P…i-l k --------------------------------------- THai days of the week Sunday ---> wan-ar-tit Monday ---> wan-tjan Tuesday ---> wan-ang-kaan Wednesday ---> wan-phoet Thursday ---> wan-pha-ru-hat-sa-boh-die Friday ---> wan-sook Saturday ---> wan-sao --------------------------------------- TUrkish days of the week Sunday ---> Pazar Monday ---> Pazartesi Tuesday ---> Sali Wednesday ---> €ar,samba Thursday ---> Per,sembe Friday ---> Cuma Saturday ---> Cumartesi --------------------------------------- UKranian days of the week Sunday ---> nedilya Monday ---> ponedilok Tuesday ---> vivtorok Wednesday ---> sereda Thursday ---> chetver Friday ---> pyatnytsya Saturday ---> subota --------------------------------------- VIetnamese days of the week Sunday ---> Chu? Nhƒ.t Monday ---> Th£* Hai Tuesday ---> Th£* Ba Wednesday ---> Th£* Tu* Thursday ---> Th£* Na'm Friday ---> Th£* S u Saturday ---> Th£* Ba?y --------------------------------------- WElsh days of the week Sunday ---> dydd Sul Monday ---> dyds Llun Tuesday ---> dydd Mawrth Wednesday ---> dyds Mercher Thursday ---> dydd Iau Friday ---> dydd Gwener Saturday ---> dyds Sadwrn --------------------------------------- XHosa days of the week Sunday ---> icawa Monday ---> umvulo Tuesday ---> ulwesibini Wednesday ---> ulwesithathu Thursday ---> uluwesine Friday ---> ukwesihlanu Saturday ---> umgqibelo --------------------------------------- YIddish days of the week Sunday ---> zuntik Monday ---> montik Tuesday ---> dinstik Wednesday ---> mitvokh Thursday ---> donershtik Friday ---> fraytik Saturday ---> shabes --------------------------------------- ZUlu days of the week Sunday ---> iSonto Monday ---> uMsombuluko Tuesday ---> uLwesibili Wednesday ---> uLwesithathu Thursday ---> uLwesine Friday ---> uLwesihlanu Saturday ---> uMgqibelo __________________________________________________________ Gerard S. ###### From: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: 18 Sep 2002 10:17:37 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> Reply-To: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet10 X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1032344257 21488 134.117.136.30 (18 Sep 2002 10:17:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Sep 2002 10:17:37 GMT X-Given-Sender: ab528@freenet10.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!torn!cunews!freenet-news!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab528 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117091 Howard S Shubs (howard@shubs.net) writes: > ... >> X-Face: > > The X-Face header is a little bitmapped image which some newsreaders > know how to display. If you can display mine, you'll see me as I was in > 1995. If there's hair on the head, you're too young to post here. B-) ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:04:35 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-953.newsdawg.com Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117130 In article , ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: > If there's hair on the head, you're too young to post here. B-) Then I'm fine. -- Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship ###### From: Radovan Garabik Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:51:31 +0200 Lines: 17 Sender: Radovan Garabik Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas15.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk (158.195.25.215) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1032526575 5616152 158.195.25.215 (16 [89407]) X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.17-grsecurity-1.9.2+xfs+unicodedeadkeys+pspa (i686)) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!atlas15.dnp.fmph.uniba.SK!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117256 GerardS wrote: : In any case, here is my list. Some characters won't be displayed : correctly as I composed the list using the "standard" DOS code-page. _which_ DOS code-page? This list has entries that cannot together be represented in ANY existing DOS code page. Seems to me that you would greatly benefit from using Unicode. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | Radovan GarabĆ­k http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik | | __..--^^^--..__ garabik @ fmph . uniba . sk | ----------------------------------------------------------- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread! ###### X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.67.16.79 From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:19:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.147 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1032531553 24.71.223.147 (Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:19:13 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:19:13 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!ps01-sjc1!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news2.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117274 On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:51:31 +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: >GerardS wrote: > > : In any case, here is my list. Some characters won't be displayed > : correctly as I composed the list using the "standard" DOS code-page. Did you mean ISO-8859-1 or MS-WIN-1252? MS DOS CP 437 has box drawing characters instead of accented characters so would not be capable of representing multiple alphabets. >_which_ DOS code-page? This list has entries that cannot together >be represented in ANY existing DOS code page. >Seems to me that you would greatly benefit from using Unicode. Many readers may not then be able to view the result -- named symbolic markup like HTML would be preferable for readability, or something simple like composed digraphs with/-out escapes e.g. @e` or e\b` or e`. -- Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply tosspam@aol.com abuse@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@msn.com abuse@sprint.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@cadvision.com abuse@ibsystems.com uce@ftc.gov spam traps ###### Message-ID: <3D8AB5F8.6030903@beagle-ears.com> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:45:28 -0700 From: Lars Poulsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020314 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: da,en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW (Date and time) References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.154.106.6 X-Trace: azure.impulse.net 1032500729 189 207.154.106.6 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!sienna.impulse.net!azure.impulse.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117199 Robert Singers wrote: > I've never seen anyone used to dd/mm/yy have a problem with > yyyymmddtttt. I routinely write dates as 2002-09-19, and all sorts of people complain about how that "is not proper", "is ugly", or "please write it in the accepted way". But nobody ever fails to figure out what it means. So I am sticking with it. -- / Lars Poulsen +1-805-569-5277 http://www.beagle-ears.com/lars/ 125 South Ontare Rd, Santa Barbara, CA 93105 USA lars@beagle-ears.com ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW (Date and time) References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> <3D8AB5F8.6030903@beagle-ears.com> From: Bernd Felsche User-Agent: nn/6.6.3 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:40:26 +0800 Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: innovative.iinet.net.au X-Trace: news.iinet.net.au 1032512406 31800 203.59.144.24 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!feedme.news.mediaways.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!swen.emba.uvm.edu!att541!ip.att.net!news.codefab.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator-la!news-in.superfeed.net!news-in-la.newsfeeds.com!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!news.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117258 Lars Poulsen writes: >Robert Singers wrote: >> I've never seen anyone used to dd/mm/yy have a problem with >> yyyymmddtttt. >I routinely write dates as 2002-09-19, and all sorts of people >complain about how that "is not proper", "is ugly", or "please >write it in the accepted way". But nobody ever fails to figure >out what it means. So I am sticking with it. Ever heard of ISO-8601? Best way to get info on it is to look at the TeX "isodate" package at http://www.ctan.org/ or one of its mirrors. More stuff at http://serendipity.magnet.ch/hermetic/cal_stud/formats.htm Use Google for even more. Or pay through the nose (CHF 104) at www.iso.ch to get a look at the Y2k edition. -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | I'm a .signature virus! X against HTML mail | Copy me into your ~/.signature / \ and postings | to help me spread! ###### From: Radovan Garabik Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:10:27 +0200 Lines: 38 Sender: Radovan Garabik Message-ID: References: <3D854483.5030709@boutel.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas15.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk (158.195.25.215) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1032768844 7503702 158.195.25.215 (16 [89407]) X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.17-grsecurity-1.9.2+xfs+unicodedeadkeys+pspa (i686)) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!atlas15.dnp.fmph.uniba.SK!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:117559 GerardS wrote: : | Radovan Garabik wrote: : |> GerardS wrote: : ----[----snipped----]---- : |> In any case, here is my list. Some characters won't be displayed : |> correctly as I composed the list using the "standard" DOS code-page. : | : | _which_ DOS code-page? This list has entries that cannot together : | be represented in ANY existing DOS code page. : | Seems to me that you would greatly benefit from using Unicode. : I don't see how you can tell what my characters are, as you are : viewing them through a newsgroup reader, and I don't know what my : Outlook Express did in mangleing them before I sent them out. I : could send an attached file, but I thought that would be more or : less forbidden in this newsgroup. you could put it on an FTP server or even use that new technology.. what's the name... World Wide Web to publish it. : I used whatever CODE page you get when in DOS (not under Windows). : The program was written for DOS and under DOS, so Unicode isn't an : option. I'm using country code 001 (United States), character : codes 437, 850. __________________________________Gerard S. but you CANNOT display correctly all the characters that were mangled in your post under CP850 (or any other DOS page). For example, Esperanto's u with breve. So obviously, there was some garbage being generated in the process, and already your alleged list in CP850 is already wrong. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | Radovan GarabĆ­k http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik | | __..--^^^--..__ garabik @ fmph . uniba . sk | ----------------------------------------------------------- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread! ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Sat, 28 Sep 02 12:42:19 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3d94cfda.17159024@news.ocis.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZJZSpQDJSE3P+L/c+TYgpDELJ7yunZjzC3MrX74uS08BxX3rKUoPa4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Sep 2002 13:58:12 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-109 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118050 In article <3d94cfda.17159024@news.ocis.net>, genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: >slavins@hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) wrote: > >>A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event >>was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and >>wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to >>have responded with the single line >> >>20021012T143000 >> >>He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd >>never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. > > What is that extraneous "T" for? Tick. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Sat, 28 Sep 02 12:44:05 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ1VeUdNKz56HOc4y5FiY+vE4p0Av0den2OS/ZMbEmHwEJRwoXU0htp X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Sep 2002 13:59:59 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.gol.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-109 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118055 In article <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com>, CBFalconer wrote: >Gene Wirchenko wrote: >> ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: >> >Howard S Shubs (howard@shubs.net) writes: >> >> >> >... >> >>> X-Face: >> >> >> >> The X-Face header is a little bitmapped image which some >> >> newsreaders know how to display. If you can display mine, >> >> you'll see me as I was in 1995. >> > >> > If there's hair on the head, you're too young to post here. >> >> I'm 41. I'm not old. >> >> That is hair on TOP of the head, right? > >I'm 71. I have hair on top, sides, front and back of head. My wife >forcibly leads me to the barber every so often. Does that >disqualify me? Yup but only because you cut it. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Sat, 28 Sep 02 12:46:32 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYxSqdl0PuwPfUiD+2rMGPF2Nfd8FES/sZ5g3mRSDVSHde3L+4yNzhV X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Sep 2002 14:02:26 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.gol.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-109 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118053 In article <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net>, genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: >ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: > >>Howard S Shubs (howard@shubs.net) writes: >>> >>... >>>> X-Face: >>> >>> The X-Face header is a little bitmapped image which some newsreaders >>> know how to display. If you can display mine, you'll see me as I was in >>> 1995. >> >> If there's hair on the head, you're too young to post here. B-) > > I'm 41. I'm not old. hmm.. I would have guessed older ;-) > > That is hair on TOP of the head, right? I wondered the same thing. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW References: <3d94cfda.17159024@news.ocis.net> From: Bernd Felsche User-Agent: nn/6.6.3 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:37:23 +0800 Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: innovative.iinet.net.au X-Trace: news.iinet.net.au 1033178411 11906 203.59.144.24 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.uwa.edu.au!nntp.waia.asn.au!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!news.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118096 genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) writes: >slavins@hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) wrote: >>A friend emailed me asking when and on what day a certain event >>was going to happen. I was in the middle of programming and >>wasn't really thinking too hard about the email and I seem to >>have responded with the single line >> >>20021012T143000 >> >>He had no trouble turning that into English even though he'd >>never seen that format before. He's been hacking too long. > What is that extraneous "T" for? ISO compliance. -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | I'm a .signature virus! X against HTML mail | Copy me into your ~/.signature / \ and postings | to help me spread! ###### Message-ID: <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com> From: CBFalconer Reply-To: cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net Organization: Ched Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 26 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 02:54:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.90.172.177 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1033181674 12.90.172.177 (Sat, 28 Sep 2002 02:54:34 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 02:54:34 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news-out.worldnet.att.net.MISMATCH!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118120 Gene Wirchenko wrote: > ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: > >Howard S Shubs (howard@shubs.net) writes: > >> > >... > >>> X-Face: > >> > >> The X-Face header is a little bitmapped image which some > >> newsreaders know how to display. If you can display mine, > >> you'll see me as I was in 1995. > > > > If there's hair on the head, you're too young to post here. > > I'm 41. I'm not old. > > That is hair on TOP of the head, right? I'm 71. I have hair on top, sides, front and back of head. My wife forcibly leads me to the barber every so often. Does that disqualify me? -- Chuck F (cbfalconer@yahoo.com) (cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. USE worldnet address! ###### From: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: 28 Sep 2002 14:14:17 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com> Reply-To: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet10 X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1033222457 847 134.117.136.30 (28 Sep 2002 14:14:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Sep 2002 14:14:17 GMT X-Given-Sender: ab528@freenet10.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab528 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118068 (jmfbahciv@aol.com) writes: > In article <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com>, > CBFalconer wrote: >>I'm 71. I have hair on top, sides, front and back of head. My wife >>forcibly leads me to the barber every so often. Does that >>disqualify me? > > Yup but only because you cut it. A guy with a pony tail at his age? B-)))) Braids - that's the ticket. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Sun, 29 Sep 02 10:17:32 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbilhiCvce5W2A4XJVec0pTi084trny+/qL9DCrVygkmjKumUBARBzA X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Sep 2002 11:33:35 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!eusc.inter.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.gol.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-146 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118185 In article , ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: > (jmfbahciv@aol.com) writes: >> In article <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com>, >> CBFalconer wrote: > >>>I'm 71. I have hair on top, sides, front and back of head. My wife >>>forcibly leads me to the barber every so often. Does that >>>disqualify me? >> >> Yup but only because you cut it. > > A guy with a pony tail at his age? B-)))) Why not? They're sexy. > Braids - that's the ticket. I wear braids. You gotta problem with that? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Rupert Pigott" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:43:07 +0100 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.12.139 X-Trace: news5.svr.pol.co.uk 1033313818 30924 217.134.12.139 (29 Sep 2002 15:36:58 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Sep 2002 15:36:58 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118194 wrote in message news:an6oef$jub$8@bob.news.rcn.net... > In article , > ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: > > (jmfbahciv@aol.com) writes: > >> In article <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com>, > >> CBFalconer wrote: > > > >>>I'm 71. I have hair on top, sides, front and back of head. My wife > >>>forcibly leads me to the barber every so often. Does that > >>>disqualify me? > >> > >> Yup but only because you cut it. > > > > A guy with a pony tail at his age? B-)))) > > Why not? They're sexy. Before I worked in Finance I used to have a long blonde pony tail down to my bum. I definately had more interest from women back then, but I put that down to age & attitude. :) There is a certain amount of truth to the saying "You're as old as the woman you feel." :) Of course the genders can be switched. Cheers, Rupert ###### From: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: 29 Sep 2002 20:16:56 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com> Reply-To: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet10 X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1033330616 26134 134.117.136.30 (29 Sep 2002 20:16:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Sep 2002 20:16:56 GMT X-Given-Sender: ab528@freenet10.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab528 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118218 (jmfbahciv@aol.com) writes: > > >> Braids - that's the ticket. > > I wear braids. You gotta problem with that? If they save the woman the price of a face lift, go with them I say. But they must be very tight to do so. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 30 Sep 02 09:46:20 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZh8pfc9CzOOq3K4BLe31KLz1Zh0Ot67CJEgqb4r0D59m5C9/GoenZD X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 2002 11:02:33 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-153 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118242 In article , ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: > (jmfbahciv@aol.com) writes: >> >> >>> Braids - that's the ticket. >> >> I wear braids. You gotta problem with that? > > If they save the woman the price of a face lift, go with them I say. > But they must be very tight to do so. Why would I want to have my face lifted. Getting my pertard hoisted is so much more fun. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 30 Sep 02 09:51:31 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> <3d976eec.4761138@news.ocis.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY4HRHrHqugosuYIqLvKbXvbRoe57c+hHOFDOpHVO9Q0kA043XaIfGN X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 2002 11:07:43 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!208-59-181-153 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118253 In article <3d976eec.4761138@news.ocis.net>, genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>In article <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net>, >> genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: >>>ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: >>> >>>>Howard S Shubs (howard@shubs.net) writes: >>>>> >>>>... >>>>>> X-Face: >>>>> >>>>> The X-Face header is a little bitmapped image which some newsreaders >>>>> know how to display. If you can display mine, you'll see me as I was >>in >>>>> 1995. >>>> >>>> If there's hair on the head, you're too young to post here. B-) >>> >>> I'm 41. I'm not old. >> >>hmm.. I would have guessed older ;-) > > Taking a serious approach to it, I got into computers at about >the right time and my interests are such that I know more about the >history of computing and computers than most P/As my age. Yup. That's why I guessed older. > >>> That is hair on TOP of the head, right? >> >>I wondered the same thing. > > I was thinking of gravity. Or maybe "grabbity": Definitely the latter. > .. You grab and >pull some of your (top) hair out, because of some problem. Then, you >mope about it by, say, sticking your palms under your chin, and the >hair gets transferred. Done often enough^W^W^WWith enough experience, >you now have no hair on top and a bunch on the chin.[1] > >[1] Limited offer: may not be suitable for all sexes. Well, I learn something new here everyday. That explains why men get hair on their chin when they've been shaven for years. I never made the correlation with difficult projects before now. Neat! Another little research project to keep track. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 00:16:02 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3d976eec.4761138@news.ocis.net> Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <97o5ma.jc2.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 46 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com!hub1.meganetnews.com!nntpserver.com!telocity-west!TELOCITY!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118240 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net>, > genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: >>ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: >> >>>Howard S Shubs (howard@shubs.net) writes: >>>> >>>... >>>>> X-Face: >>>> >>>> The X-Face header is a little bitmapped image which some newsreaders >>>> know how to display. If you can display mine, you'll see me as I was >in >>>> 1995. >>> >>> If there's hair on the head, you're too young to post here. B-) >> >> I'm 41. I'm not old. > >hmm.. I would have guessed older ;-) Taking a serious approach to it, I got into computers at about the right time and my interests are such that I know more about the history of computing and computers than most P/As my age. >> That is hair on TOP of the head, right? > >I wondered the same thing. I was thinking of gravity. Or maybe "grabbity": You grab and pull some of your (top) hair out, because of some problem. Then, you mope about it by, say, sticking your palms under your chin, and the hair gets transferred. Done often enough^W^W^WWith enough experience, you now have no hair on top and a bunch on the chin.[1] [1] Limited offer: may not be suitable for all sexes. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices. ###### From: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW Date: 30 Sep 2002 11:23:52 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <3d94d171.17565820@news.ocis.net> <3D9518A5.2987E01F@yahoo.com> Reply-To: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet10 X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 1033385032 15876 134.117.136.30 (30 Sep 2002 11:23:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 2002 11:23:52 GMT X-Given-Sender: ab528@freenet10.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab528 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:118282 (jmfbahciv@aol.com) writes: > In article , > ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote: >> (jmfbahciv@aol.com) writes: >>>> Braids - that's the ticket. >>> I wear braids. You gotta problem with that? >> If they save the woman the price of a face lift, go with them I say. >> But they must be very tight to do so. > > Why would I want to have my face lifted. Getting my pertard > hoisted is so much more fun. Oh, those braids.