From: Chris McDonald Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Old cartoon: customers, swings, and trees Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:04:54 +0800 Organization: Computer Science & Software Engineering, The University of Western Australia Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3CA10CA6.53F5502D@cs.uwa.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: enyo.uwa.edu.au 1017187492 1541 130.95.1.8 (27 Mar 2002 00:04:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uwa.edu.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!204.94.211.44!enews.sgi.com!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.uwa.edu.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:104487 Hi, I'm trying to locate a copy of an old cartoon which makes a laugh at failed communications (and perhaps a good cartoon for Software Engineering issues). It shows a number of children's swings, each worse than the previous, and ends with "What the customer wanted". Anyone know where I can find a copy of this, even better, an online copy? Thanks, _______________________________________________________________________________ Dr Chris McDonald EMAIL: chris@cs.uwa.edu.au Department of Computer Science & Software Engineering The University of Western Australia WWW: http://www.cs.uwa.edu.au/~chris Crawley, Western Australia, 6009 PH: +61 8 9380 2533, FAX: +61 8 9380 1089 ###### Reply-To: "Brian Webb" From: "Brian Webb" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <3CA10CA6.53F5502D@cs.uwa.edu.au> Subject: Re: Old cartoon: customers, swings, and trees Lines: 18 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Message-ID: <5hbo8.71601$8%.440019088@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.62.132.1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr30.news.prodigy.com 1017200833 ST000 216.62.132.1 (Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:47:13 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:47:13 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: FKPO@MC@OHTWQQ@YABND]_HBWB]^PCPDLXUNNHLIWIWTEPIB_NVUAH_[BL[\IRKIANGGJBFNJF_DOLSCENSY^U@FRFUEXR@KFXYDBPWBCDQJA@X_DCBHXR[C@\EOKCJLED_SZ@RMWYXYWE_P@\\GOIW^@SYFFSWHFIXMADO@^[ADPRPETLBJ]RDGENSKQQZN Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 03:47:13 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr30.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:104453 "Chris McDonald" wrote in message > Hi, > > I'm trying to locate a copy of an old cartoon which makes a laugh at > failed communications (and perhaps a good cartoon for Software Engineering > issues). It shows a number of children's swings, each worse than the previous, > and ends with "What the customer wanted". > > Anyone know where I can find a copy of this, even better, an online copy? > Thanks, www.businessballs.com Select "tree swing picture" from the list on the left. - Brian ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: cstacy@theworld.com (Christopher C. Stacy) Subject: Re: Old cartoon: customers, swings, and trees User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Message-ID: Sender: cstacy@BONK Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:06:37 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <3CA10CA6.53F5502D@cs.uwa.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp0b057.std.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die Lines: 13 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!193.154.160.102.MISMATCH!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.kpnqwest.at!news-hub.siol.net!zur.uu.net!ash.uu.net!world!news Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:104762 >>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:04:54 +0800, Chris McDonald ("Chris") writes: Chris> Hi, Chris> I'm trying to locate a copy of an old cartoon which makes a laugh at Chris> failed communications (and perhaps a good cartoon for Software Engineering Chris> issues). It shows a number of children's swings, each worse than the previous, Chris> and ends with "What the customer wanted". Chris> Anyone know where I can find a copy of this, even better, an online copy? Chris> Thanks, This was originally published in Datamation, I think. ###### From: David Powell Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Old cartoon: customers, swings, and trees Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:45:44 +0000 Reply-To: ddotpowell@netscapeonline.co.uk Message-ID: References: <3CA10CA6.53F5502D@cs.uwa.edu.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: ch5as20-84-255-201.cw-visp.com X-Trace: 29 Mar 2002 19:47:55 GMT, ch5as20-84-255-201.cw-visp.com Lines: 31 X-Report: Report abuse to abuse@netscapeonline.co.uk Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!proxad.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!newsfeed.icl.net!iclnet!plato.netscapeonline.co.uk!ch5as20-84-255-201.cw-visp.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:104887 In article , cstacy@theworld.com (Christopher C. Stacy) in alt.folklore.computers wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:04:54 +0800, Chris McDonald ("Chris") writes: > > Chris> Hi, > > Chris> I'm trying to locate a copy of an old cartoon which makes a laugh at > Chris> failed communications (and perhaps a good cartoon for Software Engineering > Chris> issues). It shows a number of children's swings, each worse than the previous, > Chris> and ends with "What the customer wanted". > > Chris> Anyone know where I can find a copy of this, even better, an online copy? > Chris> Thanks, > >This was originally published in Datamation, I think. I remember seeing it long, long ago, printed in a 2*3 box grid. IIRC, the cartoonist was Hargraves, or Hargreaves, or similar name. It is in a published hardback collection of his works. IMHO it is a classic, should be on the wall of every design office. It was on ours. Another one was the cartoon of the managers' car park. Roller in the spot marked "MD", Jags for the finance director, etc, etc. Apparently empty spot marked "Chief Engineer", but there's an ancient push-bike leaning against the wall. Regards, David P.