Message-ID: <3C51083C.670A@adelphia.net> From: Adam Stouffer Organization: Bloom County (Vote Bill N' Opus 2000) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Caldera releases original unices under BSD license Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 58 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:27:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.53.187.155 X-Complaints-To: abuse@adelphia.net X-Trace: news3.news.adelphia.net 1011943660 24.53.187.155 (Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:27:40 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:27:40 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!router1.news.adelphia.net!router3.news.adelphia.net!news3.news.adelphia.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:99676 Don't know if anyone here has heard about this yet but figured it may be of some interest. http://www.tuhs.org/archive_sites.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- January 23, 2002 Dear UNIX enthusiasts, Caldera International, Inc. hereby grants a fee free license that includes the rights use, modify and distribute this named source code, including creating derived binary products created from the source code. 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BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. Very truly yours, /signed/ Bill Broderick Bill Broderick Director, Licensing Services * UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the US and other countries. ###### From: aek@spies.com (Al Kossow) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Caldera releases original unices under BSD license Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:31:49 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <3C51083C.670A@adelphia.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: il0502a-dhcp193.apple.com X-Trace: news.apple.com 1011987100 25737 17.205.24.193 (25 Jan 2002 19:31:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.apple.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Jan 2002 19:31:40 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!forum.apple.com!news.apple.com!il0502a-dhcp193.apple.com!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:99716 In article <3C51083C.670A@adelphia.net>, Adam Stouffer wrote: > Don't know if anyone here has heard about this yet but figured it may be > of some interest. http://www.tuhs.org/archive_sites.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > January 23, 2002 > Dear UNIX enthusiasts, > Caldera International, Inc. hereby grants a fee free license that > includes the rights use, modify and distribute this named source code, > including creating derived binary products created from the source code. > The source code for which Caldera > International, Inc. grants rights are limited to the following UNIX > Operating Systems that operate on the 16-Bit PDP-11 CPU and early > versions of the 32-Bit UNIX Operating System, with specific exclusion of > UNIX System III and UNIX System V and successor operating systems: > 32-bit 32V UNIX > 16 bit UNIX Versions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 > What ever happened to the Interdata 8/32 port of Release 7 done at BTL ? ###### From: Joe Pfeiffer Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Caldera releases original unices under BSD license Date: 25 Jan 2002 15:21:56 -0700 Organization: New Mexico State University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <1b7kq6dqbf.fsf@cs.nmsu.edu> References: <3C51083C.670A@adelphia.net> <1bk7u6dvvo.fsf@cs.nmsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: viper.cs.nmsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: bubba.NMSU.Edu 1011997315 27523 128.123.64.113 (25 Jan 2002 22:21:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@bubba.NMSU.Edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Jan 2002 22:21:55 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!news-in-sanjose!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!64.245.249.51!sfo2-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia!lynx.unm.edu!news.NMSU.Edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:99853 aek@spies.com (Al Kossow) writes: > > There were two. The one from BTL was written using the (then new) Portable > C Compiler, and the stack grew in the opposite direction to the one done > by Richard Miller at the Univ of Wollongong. OK -- I'd never heard of the BTL one. -- Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605 Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002 New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer Southwestern NM Regional Science and Engr Fair: http://www.nmsu.edu/~scifair ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Caldera releases original unices under BSD license Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:35:14 +0000 Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium Message-ID: <2jms2a.704.ln@teabag.cbhnet> References: <3C51083C.670A@adelphia.net> <3C51C159.46382D5F@hawaga.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1011999601 nnrp-02:9903 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 7 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsgate.cistron.nl!news2.euro.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:99838 According to Ben Clifford : > This license is only addressed to UNIX enthusiasts. Does this mean that > if you are not a UNIX enthusiast, you have to get a different license? Yes. :) Chris. ###### From: Dennis Ritchie Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Caldera releases original unices under BSD license Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 04:07:13 +0000 Organization: Bell Labs / Lucent Technologies Lines: 35 Message-ID: <3C522B71.7C9B285F@bell-labs.com> References: <3C51083C.670A@adelphia.net> <1bk7u6dvvo.fsf@cs.nmsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 135.104.65.78 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!12905900!news.imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!wn1feed!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!207.24.196.41!nntphub.cb.lucent.com!news Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:99808 Al Kossow wrote: > > In article <1bk7u6dvvo.fsf@cs.nmsu.edu>, Joe Pfeiffer > wrote: > > > aek@spies.com (Al Kossow) writes: > > > > > > What ever happened to the Interdata 8/32 port of Release 7 done at BTL ? > > > > I thought that was done at Wollongong? > > There were two. The one from BTL was written using the (then new) Portable > C Compiler, and the stack grew in the opposite direction to the one done > by Richard Miller at the Univ of Wollongong. Yes. Amazing coincidence, in fact: the Wollongong port was just about the same time as the Bell Labs one, was completely independent and were the first real efforts to make the whole system portable, and they used nearly the same hardware (Interdata 8/32 in our case, 7/32 in Wollongong's). There were local precursors (e.g. Tom Lyon and others did a partial port to S/370 in 1976-77 at Princeton, and Tom spent a summer here working on the later Interdata port. This work was pre-Seventh edition release, and many of the changes in the 7th edition compared with the 6th were in fact to make the OS and commands more portable. But as to the original question--what happened to that Interdata version? Unfortunately, I'm afraid it's lost. Interdata (by then Perkin-Elmer) never showed any enthusiasm, and we never put together a release version. Dennis ###### From: huck@skipthisfinn.com (Huck) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Caldera releases original unices under BSD license Message-ID: <3c799f2f.71536269@netnews.att.net> References: <3C51083C.670A@adelphia.net> <3C51C159.46382D5F@hawaga.org.uk> <2jms2a.704.ln@teabag.cbhnet> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 14 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:21:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.79.161.237 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1014603663 12.79.161.237 (Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:21:03 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:21:03 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!newsfeed.rt.ru!image.surnet.ru!surnet.ru!news-east.rr.com!wn2feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.72!wnfilter2!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:102587 how much do VM bigots have to pay? how much more if i admit i was in kingston with the AIX crew? On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:35:14 +0000, cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: >According to Ben Clifford : >> This license is only addressed to UNIX enthusiasts. Does this mean that >> if you are not a UNIX enthusiast, you have to get a different license? > >Yes. :) > >Chris. ###### From: jata@jata-mj.net (Julian Thomas) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Caldera releases original unices under BSD license Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:40:04 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3c7d8a95$1$wg$mr2ice@news.fltg.net> References: <3C51083C.670A@adelphia.net> <3C51C159.46382D5F@hawaga.org.uk> <2jms2a.704.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <3c799f2f.71536269@netnews.att.net> X-Newsreader: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.30a/30 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 20 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.qis.net!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:102863 In <3c799f2f.71536269@netnews.att.net>, on 02/25/02 at 02:21 AM, huck@skipthisfinn.com (Huck) said: >how much do VM bigots have to pay? >how much more if i admit i was in kingston with the AIX crew? Hey guy - how are you? I was there, and was a vm bigot to boot! -- Julian Thomas: jt . jt-mj @ net http://jt-mj.net remove letter a for email (or switch . and @) In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- Murphy's Anachronism: disk failures occur immediately before backing up.