From: dfraser+news@capybara.org (Dan Fraser) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Unix Music X-Cow: Often Mooing User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (NetBSD) Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:12:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.114.255.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news4.rdc1.on.home.com 999195138 24.114.255.78 (Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:12:18 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:12:18 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news4.rdc1.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89083 Given the upcoming One Billion Seconds event, I was wondering what music was popular among computer geeks in the 1970's. I missed out on that era myself, being about -5 years old at the time, but am quite interested in this history! -- Dan J. Fraser PGP: 0xF3972A01 (17 B7 24 90 27 05 B8 92 4F 7F 61 18 B9 D1 17 CE) "Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 31 Aug 01 08:37:34 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 61 Message-ID: <2291.643T1716T5175501@nowhere.in.particular> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <3jntot8b2pl153t0nn2t48avc16bv9bld0@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-507.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89068 In article The.Central.Scrutinizer.nospam@invalid.pobox.com (The.Central.Scrutinizer.nospam) writes: >On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 02:47:03 +0200, Giles Todd >wrote: > >>For some unaccountable reason, you seem to have omitted Mozart. > >I didn't get around to listing my clasical tastes which include bach, >beethoven, dvorak, poulenc and vivaldi. Although I've enjoyed playing >mozart sonatas, I've never really enjoyed listening to mozart. I find >mozart a bit too bland and emotionless. Generally I agree with you, although I have a couple of CDs where I found delightful exceptions to the rule. But for your same reason I tend to avoid baroque music in general - that plus the fact that my equal-tempered ears find its tunings rather dreadful. IMHO for real passion, though, nothing can beat the romantic-era Russian composers: Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev, and of course Tchaikovsky. The only problem with them is that I usually get so swept up in the music that I stop working. :-) >and somehow I forgot to mention clapton, the greatest guitarist of >all time. Well, one of them anyway, and he's getting a bit overplayed. There are a lot of great fingerstylists out there. >or the moody blues Their early stuff was great... >or the eagles IMHO they hit their peak with "Desperado" and soon afterwards slid down into a slick commercial formula that relegated them to the "soft rock" radio stations and other such sources of elevator music. Too bad - they can do some wonderful tight vocals. >And of course, tom lehrer for such pearls like "poisoning pigeons >in the park" Ah, yes... >My latest'n'greatest toy is a 20G hard drive MP3 player where >I've stored just over 300 albums. Not me. In addition to my stack of CDs (one third classical, one half obscure local artists, the rest things that someone else might actually recognize), I still have the 700 vinyl albums that I accumulated through the '70s and '80s. They work just fine, and I'm not about to spend the $10k it would cost to replace them (assuming they could all be replaced, which they can't). But hey, this is a.f.c... -- cgibbs@nowhere.in.particular (Charlie Gibbs) I'm switching ISPs - watch this space. ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:12:27 +0100 Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium Message-ID: References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 999199375 nnrp-13:4930 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 16 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:88967 According to : > yes, jethro tull, king crimson, steely dan, pat benatar, the cars, deep purple, > doors, genesis, lynard skynard, pink floyd, santana, styx, supertramp, > gratefull dead, emerson lake & palmer, traffic, ELO, weather report, edgar > winter group, zappa > > And electronic/spacey music like tangerine dream, synergy, brian eno, jean > michel jarre, software, vangelis Hmm, you've just listed my record collection! Apart from the large amounts of Hawkwind, anyway. Although I was only 11 at the end of the '70s; would the comment "living in the past" be too much of a crap joke to make? Chris. ###### From: Giles Todd Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 02:47:03 +0200 Organization: None Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3jntot8b2pl153t0nn2t48avc16bv9bld0@4ax.com> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> Reply-To: gt@at-dot.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lart.bofh.org (212.136.214.115) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 999218867 3166803 212.136.214.115 (16 [65249]) X-Orig-Path: private!nobody Cancel-Lock: sha1:9+Tyfnm2Dt/N05eKY7SiyDp3ntA= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes X-NFilter: 1.2.0 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newscore.gigabell.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!lart.bofh.ORG!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89087 On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:45:15 GMT, The.Central.Scrutinizer.nospam@invalid.pobox.com () wrote: > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:12:18 GMT, Dan Fraser wrote: > >Given the upcoming One Billion Seconds event, I was wondering what music was > >popular among computer geeks in the 1970's. > > yes, jethro tull, king crimson, steely dan, pat benatar, the cars, deep purple, > doors, genesis, lynard skynard, pink floyd, santana, styx, supertramp, > gratefull dead, emerson lake & palmer, traffic, ELO, weather report, edgar > winter group, zappa > > And electronic/spacey music like tangerine dream, synergy, brian eno, jean > michel jarre, software, vangelis For some unaccountable reason, you seem to have omitted Mozart. Giles. ###### From: "Seltzer" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:18:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 19 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89051 What is the date of the Unix clock rollover? Isn't it something like 2.14BB seconds since 1/1/1970? "Dan Fraser" wrote in message news:6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com... > Given the upcoming One Billion Seconds event, I was wondering what music was > popular among computer geeks in the 1970's. > > I missed out on that era myself, being about -5 years old at the time, but > am quite interested in this history! > > -- > Dan J. Fraser > PGP: 0xF3972A01 (17 B7 24 90 27 05 B8 92 4F 7F 61 18 B9 D1 17 CE) > "Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin ###### From: never+mail@panics.com.invalid (Michael Roach) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 31 Aug 2001 15:48:49 GMT Organization: A small notepad underneath my in box Lines: 11 Message-ID: <9mobl1$oi3$1@news.panix.com> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix1.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 999272929 25155 166.84.1.1 (31 Aug 2001 15:48:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Aug 2001 15:48:49 GMT X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test74 (May 26, 2000) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:88968 In article <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com>, Dan Fraser wrote: >Given the upcoming One Billion Seconds event, I was wondering what music was >popular among computer geeks in the 1970's. Stoned^hs -- A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly, science into superstition, and art into pedantry. Hence University education. -- G. B. Shaw ###### From: quirk@swcp.com (Taki Kogoma) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 31 Aug 2001 10:49:50 -0600 Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorrow Afternoon Lines: 16 Message-ID: <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: boofura.swcp.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.siscom.net!feeder.nmix.net!feeder.swcp.com!sloth.swcp.com!boofura.swcp.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89018 On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:18:34 -0500, did "Seltzer" , to alt.folklore.computers decree... >What is the date of the Unix clock rollover? Isn't it something like 2.14BB >seconds since 1/1/1970? Y32-bit will hit on/around 18 January 2038. Exactly when depends on what timezone the box in question is set to. Gym "Whether or not time_t will have migrated to 64 bits by then is another question..." Quirk -- Capt. Gym Z. Quirk -- quirk @ swcp.com | "I'll get a life when someone (Known to some as Taki Kogoma) | demonstrates that it would be Retired 'Secret Master of | superior to what I have now." rec.arts.startrek' | -- Gym Quirk ###### From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:23:19 GMT Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd Message-ID: <999282199snz@dsl.co.uk> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 999285770 mail2news:18230 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!dsl.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.31 Lines: 33 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89233 In article <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> quirk@swcp.com "Taki Kogoma" writes: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:18:34 -0500, did "Seltzer" , > to alt.folklore.computers decree... > >What is the date of the Unix clock rollover? Isn't it something like 2.14BB > >seconds since 1/1/1970? There's another event a lot sooner than that: a week on Sunday (9th Sept) to be precise, when the time_t value first exceeds 10^9, and thus requires ten characters for its representation as a decimal (as is used in many newsreaders for Message-IDs, and in not a few news *databases*, so if the authors of the program that maintains the index didn't allow for more than 9 digits, it could prove "interesting"). This epoch is being called S1G by some, although I think I would prefer SI-compliant naming as 1Gs. As with all such "critical dates", John Stockton's web site at has the complete low-down. > Y32-bit will hit on/around 18 January 2038. Exactly when depends on what > timezone the box in question is set to. Errm, the problem will hit at exactly the same time, in GMT; when this happens to be in each timezone matters not one iota; it's not an event which will run around the planet, such as the time of sunrise. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:56:35 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 24 Message-ID: <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1405.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999291894 56538 194.134.170.130 (31 Aug 2001 21:04:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:04:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89195 On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:12:27 +0100 cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: snip list of excellent music. CH> Hmm, you've just listed my record collection! Apart from the large CH> amounts of Hawkwind, anyway. A good chunk of mine too, I'll add a fair collection of Gong, rhe Who, the Rolling Stones, Tom Lehrer. CH> Although I was only 11 at the end of the '70s; would the comment Hmm, I was 11 at the beginning of the 70s. Around that time it was Slade, T-Rex, Suzi Quattro, Mud ... Then some kind souls pointed me at Radio Caroline and The Old Grey Harris Test with Bob Whistle(1). (1) It went downhill fast after he(2) left. (2) I know it's assbackwards - it was his *own* joke originally. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:38:29 +0100 Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium Message-ID: References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 999295643 nnrp-12:1753 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 26 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89135 According to Steve O'Hara-Smith : > CH> Although I was only 11 at the end of the '70s; would the comment > > Hmm, I was 11 at the beginning of the 70s. Around that time it was > Slade, T-Rex, Suzi Quattro, Mud ... Then some kind souls pointed me at > Radio Caroline and The Old Grey Harris Test with Bob Whistle(1). ... rearrange ... > A good chunk of mine too, I'll add a fair collection of Gong, > rhe Who, the Rolling Stones, Tom Lehrer. Since my teens began in the early '80s, you probably don't want to know the type of pop stuff that found its way into my collection! > (1) It went downhill fast after he(2) left. I recall that someone allegedly did some research into this type of trend and concluded that for the first time ever, over the last ten years the quality of popular music *did* actually decline noticably, and wasn't just the perception of the "older generation" getting out of touch. I'm not really surprised as the '90s had a fairly serious talent deficit[1] compared to any previous decade. [1] At least the stuff that the record companies/radio stations would acknowledge; good new stuff was out there, just hard(er) to find. Chris. ###### From: Giles Todd Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 03:19:12 +0200 Organization: None Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <3jntot8b2pl153t0nn2t48avc16bv9bld0@4ax.com> Reply-To: gt@at-dot.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lart.bofh.org (212.136.214.115) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 999307206 3766463 212.136.214.115 (16 [65249]) X-Orig-Path: private!nobody Cancel-Lock: sha1:FRzA3WKBgulkvFDFOLP4gzFwnpI= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes X-NFilter: 1.2.0 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!130.133.1.3!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!lart.bofh.ORG!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89236 On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 02:16:21 GMT, The.Central.Scrutinizer.nospam@invalid.pobox.com () wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 02:47:03 +0200, Giles Todd wrote: > >On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:45:15 GMT, > >The.Central.Scrutinizer.nospam@invalid.pobox.com () wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:12:18 GMT, Dan Fraser wrote: > >> >Given the upcoming One Billion Seconds event, I was wondering what music was > >> >popular among computer geeks in the 1970's. > >> > >> yes, jethro tull, king crimson, steely dan, pat benatar, the cars, deep purple, > >> doors, genesis, lynard skynard, pink floyd, santana, styx, supertramp, > >> gratefull dead, emerson lake & palmer, traffic, ELO, weather report, edgar > >> winter group, zappa > >> > >> And electronic/spacey music like tangerine dream, synergy, brian eno, jean > >> michel jarre, software, vangelis > > > >For some unaccountable reason, you seem to have omitted Mozart. > > I didn't get around to listing my clasical tastes which include bach, [...] Just put it down to one of those <*WHOOSH*> moments. Giles. ###### From: gorilla@elaine.furryape.com (Alan Barclay) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 1 Sep 2001 01:44:20 GMT Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie Lines: 14 Message-ID: <999308660.141700@elaine.furryape.com> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> <999282199snz@dsl.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-686.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: gorilla@elaine.furryape.com (Alan Barclay) Cache-Post-Path: elaine.furryape.com!unknown@elaine.furryape.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b5 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89166 In article <999282199snz@dsl.co.uk>, Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote: >In article <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> quirk@swcp.com "Taki Kogoma" writes: > >> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:18:34 -0500, did "Seltzer" , >> to alt.folklore.computers decree... >> >What is the date of the Unix clock rollover? Isn't it something like 2.14BB >> >seconds since 1/1/1970? > >There's another event a lot sooner than that: a week on Sunday (9th Sept) >to be precise, when the time_t value first exceeds 10^9, and thus In GMT. For most people here, ie anyone in North America, it's on the 8th. 21:36:40 EDT to be exact. ###### From: dfraser+news@capybara.org (Dan Fraser) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> <999282199snz@dsl.co.uk> <999308660.141700@elaine.furryape.com> User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (NetBSD) Lines: 12 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 04:11:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.114.255.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news4.rdc1.on.home.com 999317518 24.114.255.78 (Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:11:58 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:11:58 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news4.rdc1.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89215 On 1 Sep 2001 01:44:20 GMT, Alan Barclay wrote: >In GMT. For most people here, ie anyone in North America, it's on the >8th. 21:36:40 EDT to be exact. We'll be celebrating with a bit of a party here in London Ontario... I originally asked about the music thing so that we could develop an appropriate playlist for the party. :) -- Dan J. Fraser PGP: 0xF3972A01 (17 B7 24 90 27 05 B8 92 4F 7F 61 18 B9 D1 17 CE) "Help stamp out and abolish redundancy." ###### Message-ID: <3B90A01A.AC2715F@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Cannine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> <999282199snz@dsl.co.uk> <999308660.141700@elaine.furryape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 06:47:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.179.111.125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news2.rdc2.tx.home.com 999326852 24.179.111.125 (Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:47:32 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:47:32 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!206.228.179.2!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news2.rdc2.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89216 Dan Fraser wrote: > > On 1 Sep 2001 01:44:20 GMT, Alan Barclay wrote: > >In GMT. For most people here, ie anyone in North America, it's on the > >8th. 21:36:40 EDT to be exact. > > We'll be celebrating with a bit of a party here in London Ontario... I > originally asked about the music thing so that we could develop an > appropriate playlist for the party. :) > I am afraid that many of us here in will be in "box city" by the year 2038... But who knows what the programming environment will be like in 2038...you may have very little to celebrate. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:00:55 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 34 Message-ID: <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1330.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999342701 97153 194.134.170.55 (1 Sep 2001 11:11:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:11:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89199 On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:38:29 +0100 cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: CH> > Radio Caroline and The Old Grey Harris Test with Bob Whistle(1). CH> ... rearrange ... See snipped note 2. CH> Since my teens began in the early '80s, you probably don't want to CH> know CH> the type of pop stuff that found its way into my collection! Well the 70s included such memorables as the Tartan Terrors (aka The Bay City Rollers) or dear little Jimmy Osmond. I'd better stop someone will send me a bill for cleaning up the vomit soon. CH> [1] At least the stuff that the record companies/radio stations would CH> acknowledge; good new stuff was out there, just hard(er) to find. Too try, a couple of years ago I stumbled across a surprising talent as I was walking through the English Garden in Munich. My first thought was that's a good sound system and I don't remember Hendrix playing it quite that way, I wonder what the recording is. While I was on the way over to look, they finished that number and started one of their own! Their own stuff was pretty good too and that took care of the afternoon nicely. The band ? You wnat to know ? They were called Luca and the Groovy Band, and were plugging away getting nowhere in particular as far as I could see. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> Organization: Minix Subject: Re: Unix Music Message-ID: From: philip@pch.home.cs.vu.nl (Philip Homburg) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 13:33:39 +0200 Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.109.127.46 X-Trace: 999344023 newszilla.xs4all.nl 283 194.109.127.46 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!transit.news.xs4all.nl!newszilla.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89147 In article , wrote: >On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:12:18 GMT, Dan Fraser wrote: >>Given the upcoming One Billion Seconds event, I was wondering what music was >>popular among computer geeks in the 1970's. > >yes, jethro tull, king crimson, steely dan, pat benatar, the cars, deep purple, >doors, genesis, lynard skynard, pink floyd, santana, styx, supertramp, >gratefull dead, emerson lake & palmer, traffic, ELO, weather report, edgar >winter group, zappa Child in Time (Deep Purple) is appropriate in this context. Certainly the recording on the live album "Scandinavian Nights" seems to last forever (more than 17 minutes) just like Unix. And it is recorded in 1970. Like Unix, it is not clear whether you should love it or hate it. Philip Homburg ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:55:18 +0100 Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium Message-ID: <6biqm9.0q1.ln@teabag.cbhnet> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 999348039 nnrp-10:26000 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 32 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89139 According to Steve O'Hara-Smith : > CH> > Radio Caroline and The Old Grey Harris Test with Bob Whistle(1). > CH> ... rearrange ... > > See snipped note 2. Oops, clash of meanings there! I meant I'd rearranged your paragraphs to suit my reply (how lazy is that? :) > Well the 70s included such memorables as the Tartan Terrors (aka > The Bay City Rollers) or dear little Jimmy Osmond. I'd better stop someone > will send me a bill for cleaning up the vomit soon. Yeah, and the '80s had Adam & The Ants, Duran Duran, Tenpole Tudor, the Human League... do you really want me to go on? > Too try, a couple of years ago I stumbled across a surprising talent > as I was walking through the English Garden in Munich. My first thought was > that's a good sound system and I don't remember Hendrix playing it quite > that way, I wonder what the recording is. While I was on the way over > to look, they finished that number and started one of their own! Their own > stuff was pretty good too and that took care of the afternoon nicely. > > The band ? You wnat to know ? They were called Luca and the Groovy > Band, and were plugging away getting nowhere in particular as far as I could > see. Can't say I've heard of them (fab name though!) but, sadly, it does sort of go to prove a point. Good band, probably a large potential market, but nobody wants to give this type of music any publicity (God knows why not) Chris. ###### From: lysse Subject: Re: Unix Music Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> <6biqm9.0q1.ln@teabag.cbhnet> Organization: lysse's domain Reply-To: lysse.news@blueyonder.co.uk User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.6 (i486)) Message-ID: Lines: 28 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 15:32:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.31.9.47 X-Complaints-To: http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/abuse X-Trace: news1.cableinet.net 999358333 62.31.9.47 (Sat, 01 Sep 2001 16:32:13 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 16:32:13 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news1.cableinet.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89191 Chris Hedley wrote: >> Well the 70s included such memorables as the Tartan Terrors (aka >> The Bay City Rollers) or dear little Jimmy Osmond. I'd better stop someone >> will send me a bill for cleaning up the vomit soon. > Yeah, and the '80s had Adam & The Ants, Duran Duran, Tenpole Tudor, the > Human League... do you really want me to go on? Oh, I loved the Human League. They're still going, too; they've just released a new album on some independent label. But then I grew up in the 80s, and "Don't you want me?" was the first record I distinctly remember being captivated by. And any decade that produced New Order, Skinny Puppy (hell, the whole industrial scene), house music and the Pet Shop Boys can't be all bad. > Can't say I've heard of them (fab name though!) but, sadly, it does sort of > go to prove a point. Good band, probably a large potential market, but > nobody wants to give this type of music any publicity (God knows why not) The music industry has been corporatised. I was hoping Napster would provide an alternative distribution medium, but sadly everyone preferred to use it to rip off the record companies. (Not that they don't deserve to be ripped off, it just gives them the legal leverage to dispose of competition. Hmm, back to the DMCA again.) -- lysse at lysse dot co dot uk "Why are your problems always so much bigger than everyone else's?" "Because they're mine." -- Ally McBeal ###### From: Frank McConnell Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 01 Sep 2001 10:18:21 -0700 Organization: Reanimators Lines: 16 Message-ID: <9mr58t$m35$1@daemonweed.reanimators.org> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> <6biqm9.0q1.ln@teabag.cbhnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: daemonweed.reanimators.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: daemonweed.reanimators.org 999364701 22629 192.168.1.2 (1 Sep 2001 17:18:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@reanimators.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Sep 2001 17:18:21 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!news.reanimators.org!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89310 cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: > Yeah, and the '80s had Adam & The Ants, Duran Duran, Tenpole Tudor, the > Human League... do you really want me to go on? Scary business: two of the above (at least) are getting airplay on a San Francisco bay area commercial radio station, along with a few other bands from the 80s. My take having listened off and on for a while is that they keep their playlist small, and it seems to work by band/artist rather than by track. Somebody must think there's a market for it. There probably is too, all the folks who turned 20 in the late 1970s and 1980s are now somewhere in their 30s or 40s and more likely than not to have disposable income to spend at their advertisers. -Frank McConnell ###### From: shannon@daydream.shannon.net (Charles Shannon Hendrix) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 1 Sep 2001 13:48:11 -0400 Organization: 32-bit Message-ID: <9mr70r$epi$1@daydream.shannon.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> Reply-To: shannon@widomaker.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 15 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89287 In article <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Hmm, I was 11 at the beginning of the 70s. Around that time it was > Slade, T-Rex, Suzi Quattro, Mud ... Then some kind souls pointed me at ^^^^^ I remember them as an 80s group because of that song "Run Run Away" that came out then. I guess that was their comeback attempt? -- -- "Star Wars Moral Number 17: Teddy bears are dangerous in herds." ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music From: nailed_barnacle@NOSPAMhotmail.com (Neil Barnes) References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> Organization: Around here? User-Agent: Xnews/4.04.17tea Lines: 25 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 19:39:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.154.98.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.net X-Trace: monolith.news.easynet.net 999373176 194.154.98.206 (Sat, 01 Sep 2001 20:39:36 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 20:39:36 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!easynet-quince!easynet.net!easynet-post1!monolith.news.easynet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89336 The.Central.Scrutinizer.nospam@invalid.pobox.com () wrote in : > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:12:18 GMT, Dan Fraser > wrote: >> Given the upcoming One Billion Seconds event, I was wondering what >> music was popular among computer geeks in the 1970's. > > yes, jethro tull, king crimson, steely dan, pat benatar, the cars, deep > purple, doors, genesis, lynard skynard, pink floyd, santana, styx, > supertramp, gratefull dead, emerson lake & palmer, traffic, ELO, > weather report, edgar winter group, zappa > > And electronic/spacey music like tangerine dream, synergy, brian eno, Looked in the copyright chunk of The Microsoft Sound? ^^^^^^^^^ > jean michel jarre, software, vangelis -- I have a quantum car. Every time I look at the speedometer I get lost... barnacle http://www.nailed-barnacle.co.uk ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:45:06 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 18 Message-ID: <20010901224506.336f303a.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> <6biqm9.0q1.ln@teabag.cbhnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: p0978.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999392472 57765 194.134.202.215 (2 Sep 2001 01:01:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89291 On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:55:18 +0100 cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: CH> Can't say I've heard of them (fab name though!) but, sadly, it does CH> sort of CH> go to prove a point. Good band, probably a large potential market, CH> but Exactly the point. I would never have heard of them had I not been strolling through the park when they happened to feel like playing in the park. I would be (pleasantly) surprised if anyone else reading this had ever heard of them. There must be a lot of this going on :( -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:51:49 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 25 Message-ID: <20010901225149.3c5e17d6.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <9mr70r$epi$1@daydream.shannon.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p0978.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999392472 57765 194.134.202.215 (2 Sep 2001 01:01:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!194.74.65.73.MISMATCH!btnet-peer0!btnet-peer!btnet!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89297 On 1 Sep 2001 13:48:11 -0400 shannon@daydream.shannon.net (Charles Shannon Hendrix) wrote: CH> In article <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net>, CH> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: CH> CH> > Hmm, I was 11 at the beginning of the 70s. Around that time it was CH> > Slade, T-Rex, Suzi Quattro, Mud ... Then some kind souls pointed me CH> at CH> ^^^^^ CH> CH> I remember them as an 80s group because of that song "Run Run Away" CH> that came out then. I guess that was their comeback attempt? I'd say so. Most people remember them for 'So Here It Is Merry Christmas' or whatever the damned thing is called. In the early 70s they developed a habit of entering the charts at the top without all that tedious messing about climbing up. They carried on gigging for a long time after they stopped charting (I'm not sure that they've stopped gigging even now). -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 23:02:32 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 23 Message-ID: <20010901230232.541853c6.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> <999282199snz@dsl.co.uk> <999308660.141700@elaine.furryape.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p0978.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999392473 57765 194.134.202.215 (2 Sep 2001 01:01:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 01:01:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89284 On Sat, 01 Sep 2001 04:11:58 GMT dfraser+news@capybara.org (Dan Fraser) wrote: DF> On 1 Sep 2001 01:44:20 GMT, Alan Barclay wrote: DF> >In GMT. For most people here, ie anyone in North America, it's on the DF> >8th. 21:36:40 EDT to be exact. DF> DF> We'll be celebrating with a bit of a party here in London Ontario... I DF> originally asked about the music thing so that we could develop an DF> appropriate playlist for the party. :) And here's me I thought it was in response to the request for a bit of rock and roll in the YKYGOW thread as it was alleged to have drifted via sex and drugs and it seemed that rock and roll should come next. OTOH nobody seems to have mentioned a liking for Bill Haley or the Big Bopper so I suppose we're still waiting on the Rock and Roll :) -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: Adam Sampson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 01 Sep 2001 22:41:59 +0100 Organization: The Society Of People Who Repeatedly Point Out That "alot" And "allot" Are Both Wrong, And It Should Be Written "a lot" Lines: 16 Sender: azz@cartman.azz.us-lot.org Message-ID: <87pu9a7fmg.fsf@cartman.azz.us-lot.org> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: raptor.ukc.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: athena.ukc.ac.uk 999389583 26774 129.12.4.232 (2 Sep 2001 00:13:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@ukc.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:13:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.online.be!62.232.80.34.MISMATCH!newspeer.highwayone.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!server3.netnews.ja.net!athena.ukc.ac.uk!cartman.azz.us-lot.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89303 The.Central.Scrutinizer.nospam@invalid.pobox.com () writes: > >Given the upcoming One Billion Seconds event, I was wondering what > >music was popular among computer geeks in the 1970's. > yes, jethro tull, king crimson, steely dan, pat benatar, the cars, > deep purple, doors, genesis, lynard skynard, pink floyd, santana, > styx, supertramp, gratefull dead, emerson lake & palmer, traffic, > ELO, weather report, edgar winter group, zappa > And electronic/spacey music like tangerine dream, synergy, brian > eno, jean michel jarre, software, vangelis In other words, absolutely nothing has changed in the last thirty years. ;) -- Adam Sampson ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 09:03:32 +0100 Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium Message-ID: References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <999308660.141700@elaine.furryape.com> <20010901230232.541853c6.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 999423958 nnrp-14:27228 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 7 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89263 According to Steve O'Hara-Smith : > OTOH nobody seems to have mentioned a liking for Bill Haley or > the Big Bopper so I suppose we're still waiting on the Rock and Roll :) Lemmy always described his band's variety of music as "nasty rock'n'roll." Chris. ###### Message-ID: <3B923D36.44C86602@ev1.net> From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Cannine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <9mof7e$ftt@boofura.swcp.com> <999282199snz@dsl.co.uk> <999308660.141700@elaine.furryape.com> <20010901230232.541853c6.steveo@eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 12:10:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.179.111.125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news2.rdc2.tx.home.com 999432609 24.179.111.125 (Sun, 02 Sep 2001 05:10:09 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 05:10:09 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.frii.net!cyclone-sjo1.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!newsfeeder.randori.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news2.rdc2.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89318 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > [snip...] [snip...] [snip...] > > OTOH nobody seems to have mentioned a liking for Bill Haley or > the Big Bopper so I suppose we're still waiting on the Rock and Roll :) > Ooooohhh...you *know* what I like.... -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 21:00:27 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 12 Message-ID: <20010902210027.7ce82a7b.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <87pu9a7fmg.fsf@cartman.azz.us-lot.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1188.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999457782 28362 194.134.203.169 (2 Sep 2001 19:09:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 19:09:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89298 On 01 Sep 2001 22:41:59 +0100 Adam Sampson wrote: AS> In other words, absolutely nothing has changed in the last thirty AS> years. ;) I'm sure we'd all be happy to hear some good new music. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 21:08:52 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 17 Message-ID: <20010902210852.3dee086e.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <999308660.141700@elaine.furryape.com> <20010901230232.541853c6.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1188.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999457782 28362 194.134.203.169 (2 Sep 2001 19:09:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 19:09:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89299 On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 09:03:32 +0100 cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: CH> Lemmy always described his band's variety of music as "nasty CH> rock'n'roll." IIRC correctly it was Dave Brock who claimed that they had been out to screw up the heads of people on acid (they kept coming back for more of course - but that's acid for you). Definitely not rock and roll. Rock and roll is something you can take lots of benzedrine for and dance yourself to death with. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 00:06:42 +0100 Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium Message-ID: <22eum9.tk6.ln@teabag.cbhnet> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010901230232.541853c6.steveo@eircom.net> <20010902210852.3dee086e.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 999503485 nnrp-07:273 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 14 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89384 According to Steve O'Hara-Smith : > IIRC correctly it was Dave Brock who claimed that they had been > out to screw up the heads of people on acid (they kept coming back for > more of course - but that's acid for you). I was on about Lemmy's new band, Motorhead, for which the below comment is quite appropriate! As for the original Hawkwind song that started it all off, hearing it played with saxophones and a violin solo after getting used to the usual thrashy version sounds *very* strange indeed. > Definitely not rock and roll. Rock and roll is something you > can take lots of benzedrine for and dance yourself to death with. Chris. ###### From: lysse Subject: Re: Unix Music Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <87pu9a7fmg.fsf@cartman.azz.us-lot.org> <20010902210027.7ce82a7b.steveo@eircom.net> Organization: lysse's domain Reply-To: lysse.news@blueyonder.co.uk User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.6 (i486)) Message-ID: <71eum9.cbh.ln@setter.lysse.co.uk> Lines: 15 Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 23:32:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.31.9.47 X-Complaints-To: http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/abuse X-Trace: news1.cableinet.net 999473540 62.31.9.47 (Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:32:20 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:32:20 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news1.cableinet.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89449 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > I'm sure we'd all be happy to hear some good new music. Are you kidding? There's always new stuff buzzing around in the UK. We still have a reasonably vibrant indie scene; at the moment garage is bubbling up from beneath the chart threshold, before that it was rave, goth, new wave, punk, etc. etc. We do innovation well over here. ;-) And we have labels like Warp and Mute, who're remarkably successful for indies. Possibly the publicly-funded music radio is a help... -- lysse at lysse dot co dot uk "Why are your problems always so much bigger than everyone else's?" "Because they're mine." -- Ally McBeal ###### From: Sam Yorko Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 19:16:59 -0800 Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3B92F62B.B361623D@computer.org> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> <6biqm9.0q1.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <9mr58t$m35$1@daemonweed.reanimators.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: symsj01.sj.symbol.com (206.61.138.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 999483371 4628965 206.61.138.2 (16 [71567]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!symsj01.sj.symbol.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89358 Frank McConnell wrote: > > cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: > > Yeah, and the '80s had Adam & The Ants, Duran Duran, Tenpole Tudor, the > > Human League... do you really want me to go on? > > Scary business: two of the above (at least) are getting airplay on a > San Francisco bay area commercial radio station, along with a few > other bands from the 80s. My take having listened off and on for a > while is that they keep their playlist small, and it seems to work by > band/artist rather than by track. > > Somebody must think there's a market for it. There probably is too, > all the folks who turned 20 in the late 1970s and 1980s are now > somewhere in their 30s or 40s and more likely than not to have > disposable income to spend at their advertisers. > > -Frank McConnell If you want something new, try 89.7FM: KFJC. Also at http://www.kfjc.org/ Sam ###### From: Frank McConnell Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 02 Sep 2001 21:08:35 -0700 Organization: Reanimators Lines: 24 Message-ID: <9muvo3$2d9q$1@daemonweed.reanimators.org> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> <6biqm9.0q1.ln@teabag.cbhnet> <9mr58t$m35$1@daemonweed.reanimators.org> <3B92F62B.B361623D@computer.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: daemonweed.reanimators.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: daemonweed.reanimators.org 999490115 79162 192.168.1.2 (3 Sep 2001 04:08:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@reanimators.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Sep 2001 04:08:35 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!feeder.via.net!news.he.net!news.kjsl.com!news.reanimators.org!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89525 Sam Yorko wrote: > If you want something new, try 89.7FM: KFJC. Also at > http://www.kfjc.org/ As it happens, KFJC is the default setting on my radios, but when I'm in the car, and I can't tell whether that noise is broadcast signal or its absence, or I've had my fill of whatever's on the air (I appear to have a short fuse for hip-hop), I start pushing buttons and sometimes even resort to turning knobs. The local radio scene (a number of non-commercial, non-NPR stations) saves me from buying a lot of recorded music. That said, when I found myself wanting to listen to stuff at work lately (to drown out an officemate so I could actually focus on work), I wanted control over the situation, and the CDs I was listening to were: Tangerine Dream (just about anything from 1986 and before), the Orb (Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld and UFOrb), Cocteau Twins, Sex Mob (new stuff, fits under category "jazz"), Ozric Tentacles (thanks Al for turning me on to them!), and Spiral Realms (Crystal Jungles of EOS). -Frank McConnell ###### From: Pete Fenelon Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:44:52 -0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: Sender: Pete Fenelon References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <87pu9a7fmg.fsf@cartman.azz.us-lot.org> <20010902210027.7ce82a7b.steveo@eircom.net> <71eum9.cbh.ln@setter.lysse.co.uk> User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.3-STABLE (i386)) X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 36 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!feed.textport.net!sn-xit-04!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89477 lysse wrote: > Possibly the publicly-funded music radio is > a help... you think? Weekday R1 is wall-to-wall pap or commercial chart-friendly indie (Lamacq) with the exception of Peel, Hobbs and Peterson, all of whom know their music intimately and convey their enthusiasm and knowledge very well. (OK, maybe those three are enough to justify your claim!) I'm unqualified to comment on the weekend output as it's almost exclusively and unapologetically dance oriented and that's not something I can enjoyably spend my time listening to. I would've listed Radcliffe and Lard amongst the good presenters, but I heard them the other week and they seem to have lost interest. I *miss* the Graveyard Shift. Damn fine show. R2 is the most musically diverse station (i.e. it plays things more than a couple of years old!) although very little it champions is innovative except in the areas of folk and new/alt country. It's kind of weird listening to Janice Long interviewing 80s alternative icons, except they're now all on Radio 2. R3, ostensibly the classical station, actually plays quite a bit of modern and avantgarde stuff tucked away in the schedules (exemplified by shows like 'Mixing It'). Unless you're referring to BBC local radio -- from previous comments I gather you're in Yorkshire; I've never heard anything on Radio Leeds, Radio York or Radio Humberside that suggest they're pushing anything interesting! (If they are, I'd be happy to hear about them!) Anyway, this is heading off-topic :) pete ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:42:12 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 29 Message-ID: <20010903224212.0e6e1801.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <87pu9a7fmg.fsf@cartman.azz.us-lot.org> <20010902210027.7ce82a7b.steveo@eircom.net> <71eum9.cbh.ln@setter.lysse.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p030.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999550079 25288 194.134.200.30 (3 Sep 2001 20:47:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 20:47:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89463 On Sun, 02 Sep 2001 23:32:20 GMT lysse wrote: > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > I'm sure we'd all be happy to hear some good new music. > > Are you kidding? There's always new stuff buzzing around in the UK. > We still have a reasonably vibrant indie scene; at the moment garage > is bubbling up from beneath the chart threshold, before that it was > rave, goth, new wave, punk, etc. etc. We do innovation well over Hmm, yes well, I have a small problem, Somewhere around the punk, new wave time is where it all seemed to go downhill as far as I could tell. Perhaps I'm missing something but not much since then has seemed to be particularly inspired (I do keep my ears open). It's not just a matter of period either, there was plenty of crud earlier it is only the accustomed sprinkling of diamonds that seems to be missing :( > here. ;-) And we have labels like Warp and Mute, who're remarkably BTW: I *am* over here - well Ireland/Netherlands but close enough. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:47:16 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 14 Message-ID: <20010903224716.6ea3ba04.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010901230232.541853c6.steveo@eircom.net> <20010902210852.3dee086e.steveo@eircom.net> <22eum9.tk6.ln@teabag.cbhnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: p030.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999550081 25288 194.134.200.30 (3 Sep 2001 20:48:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 20:48:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!195.86.7.162!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89484 On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 00:06:42 +0100 cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: CH> I was on about Lemmy's new band, Motorhead, for which the below comment CH> is quite appropriate! As for the original Hawkwind song that started it Ooops, decade error :) And yes it is appropriate to Motorhead but you have to s/benzedrine/methedrine/ for that crew, otherwise pretty much the same. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 23:14:14 +0100 Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium Message-ID: References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010902210027.7ce82a7b.steveo@eircom.net> <71eum9.cbh.ln@setter.lysse.co.uk> <20010903224212.0e6e1801.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 999590642 nnrp-01:3385 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 37 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89386 According to Steve O'Hara-Smith : > On Sun, 02 Sep 2001 23:32:20 GMT > lysse wrote: > > Are you kidding? There's always new stuff buzzing around in the UK. > > We still have a reasonably vibrant indie scene; at the moment garage > > is bubbling up from beneath the chart threshold, before that it was > > rave, goth, new wave, punk, etc. etc. We do innovation well over > > Hmm, yes well, I have a small problem, Somewhere around the punk, > new wave time is where it all seemed to go downhill as far as I could > tell. Perhaps I'm missing something but not much since then has seemed to > be particularly inspired (I do keep my ears open). To my ear, it all went wrong in about '84 when mass-produced "dance music" and rap started to take over the airwaves pretty comprehensively; prior to that, music was still quite inventive IMHO, even if I didn't like it all. I think that pop had descended to the absolute pits around '88 and has recovered slightly since then, but only marginally. To justify that statement, any scenario where average rock bands like Nirvana or Oasis are held up as the pinnacle of excellence must be a desert of decent popular music; don't get me wrong, I like some of their stuff, but it's nothing special. As Lysse said, there was some stuff worth listening to, although it was drowned out by the white noise of mediocrity and was neither obvious nor accessible in many cases; eg, I quite liked a lot of the stuff that the Goth movement produced but it was pretty low profile for the most part and er, an "acquired" taste, let's say. > It's not just a matter of period either, there was plenty of > crud earlier it is only the accustomed sprinkling of diamonds that seems > to be missing :( The diamonds are there, they're just buried in an intolerably deep layer of shit. Chris. ###### From: lysse Subject: Re: Unix Music Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <87pu9a7fmg.fsf@cartman.azz.us-lot.org> <20010902210027.7ce82a7b.steveo@eircom.net> <71eum9.cbh.ln@setter.lysse.co.uk> Organization: lysse's domain Reply-To: lysse.news@blueyonder.co.uk User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.6 (i486)) Message-ID: Lines: 38 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 23:32:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.31.9.47 X-Complaints-To: http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/abuse X-Trace: news1.cableinet.net 999559942 62.31.9.47 (Tue, 04 Sep 2001 00:32:22 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 00:32:22 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news1.cableinet.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89452 Pete Fenelon wrote: > lysse wrote: >> Possibly the publicly-funded music radio is >> a help... > you think? I did say "possibly". I virtually exclusively listen to R4 these days, so I'm perhaps a bit out of touch. ;-) > Weekday R1 is wall-to-wall pap or commercial chart-friendly indie > (Lamacq) with the exception of Peel, Hobbs and Peterson, all of whom know > their music intimately and convey their enthusiasm and knowledge > very well. (OK, maybe those three are enough to justify your claim!) Certainly Peel I was thinking of, and I'm glad there are a couple more too. I'm also quite fond of Jo Whiley, but she seems to prefer her C4 work these days. > I would've listed Radcliffe and Lard amongst the good presenters, but I heard > them the other week and they seem to have lost interest. I *miss* the > Graveyard Shift. Damn fine show. That's a real shame. I was thinking of them too, but I guess you can only bang your head against the walls of Birtian management so many times without getting concussion. > Unless you're referring to BBC local radio -- from previous comments I gather Never listen to it. (And yes, I'm Bradford-based.) > Anyway, this is heading off-topic :) Indeed. ;-) -- lysse at lysse dot co dot uk "Why are your problems always so much bigger than everyone else's?" "Because they're mine." -- Ally McBeal ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:36:42 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 15 Message-ID: <20010904203642.698bdecb.steveo@eircom.net> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010902210027.7ce82a7b.steveo@eircom.net> <71eum9.cbh.ln@setter.lysse.co.uk> <20010903224212.0e6e1801.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1232.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 999629363 14964 194.134.203.213 (4 Sep 2001 18:49:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:49:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.6.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.online.be!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89562 On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 23:14:14 +0100 cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: CH> > crud earlier it is only the accustomed sprinkling of diamonds that seems CH> > to be missing :( CH> CH> The diamonds are there, they're just buried in an intolerably deep layer CH> of shit. Perhaps I should say that it seems thinner, a *lot* thinner :( -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: never+mail@panics.com.invalid (Michael Roach) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: 4 Sep 2001 21:40:16 GMT Organization: A small notepad underneath my in box Lines: 13 Message-ID: <9n3ho0$qc0$1@news.panix.com> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix1.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 999639616 27008 166.84.1.1 (4 Sep 2001 21:40:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Sep 2001 21:40:16 GMT X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test74 (May 26, 2000) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89589 In article <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Well the 70s included such memorables as the Tartan Terrors (aka >The Bay City Rollers) or dear little Jimmy Osmond. I'd better stop someone >will send me a bill for cleaning up the vomit soon. They were just a flash in the pan anyway. And whatever happened to A Flash in the Pan, anyway? -- Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described with pictures. ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:22:25 +0100 Organization: Honest Chris' Sysadmin Emporium Message-ID: <17k3n9.6d8.ln@teabag.cbhnet> References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> <9n3ho0$qc0$1@news.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 999642330 nnrp-10:29343 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 9 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89587 According to Michael Roach : > They were just a flash in the pan anyway. And whatever happened to A > Flash in the Pan, anyway? I'm trying to decide on which appalling pun to make in response to that: either "they fizzed out" or "that train they were waiting for never turned up as it was run by British Rail." Chris. ###### From: rsteiner@isis.visi.com (Richard C. Steiner) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> Organization: Vector Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4 (UNIX) Lines: 16 Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:39:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.98.98.8 X-Complaints-To: abuse@visi.com X-Trace: ruti.visi.com 999643181 209.98.98.8 (Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:39:41 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:39:41 CDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newspeer1.nac.net!netnews.com!xfer02.netnews.com!zeus.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!ruti.visi.com!rsteiner Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89654 In article <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Well the 70s included such memorables as the Tartan Terrors (aka >The Bay City Rollers) or dear little Jimmy Osmond. I'd better stop someone >will send me a bill for cleaning up the vomit soon. S-A ... T-U-R ... D-A-Y ... night! :-) That actually isn't a bad bubblegum song, IMO. -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Eden Prairie, MN Written online using slrn 0.9.5.4! The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then. ###### From: atrn@zeta.org.au (Andy Newman) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix Music References: <6mvj7.57520$n75.14311306@news4.rdc1.on.home.com> <20010831225635.4421f6c4.steveo@eircom.net> <20010901110055.3e2b24c1.steveo@eircom.net> <9n3ho0$qc0$1@news.panix.com> Organization: is for the organised Reply-To: atrn@zeta.org.au Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (FreeBSD) Cache-Post-Path: juju.bsn!unknown@juju.bsn X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b2 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Lines: 5 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 10:35:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.132.209.248 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 999772518 144.132.209.248 (Thu, 06 Sep 2001 20:35:18 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 20:35:18 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:89718 Michael Roach wrote: >whatever happened to A Flash in the Pan, anyway? They sit back and enjoy the money their real work brought in.