From: Shez Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:10:36 +0100 Organization: Last Stop Cafe Message-ID: Reply-To: Shez NNTP-Posting-Host: xerez.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: xerez.demon.co.uk:193.237.22.174 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 992708425 nnrp-10:13597 NO-IDENT xerez.demon.co.uk:193.237.22.174 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Turnpike/6.00-Beta-4-S () Lines: 9 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!lmu.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!xerez.demon.co.uk!news Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83865 YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." -Shez. -- ______________________________________________________ Black holes are where God is dividing by zero ______________________________________________________ Take a break at the Last Stop Cafe: http://www.xerez.demon.co.uk/ ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:54:52 +0100 Organization: All yuor pie are belong to us!! Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 992724684 nnrp-08:2004 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test75 (Feb 13, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 10 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!schlund.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!skynet.be!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83910 According to Shez : > YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." The word in question was the BASIC command on the Oric home micros to switch into graphics mode... Chris. -- //USENET01 JOB (CBH,ISA),'TALKING BOLLOCKS',REGION=4000K,CLASS=F, // MSGCLASS=A,PASSWORD=WIBBLE,USER=CBH,COND=(04,LT) ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:31:26 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 11 Message-ID: <20010616233126.24050640.steveo@eircom.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p1363.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 992727117 77859 194.134.170.88 (16 Jun 2001 21:31:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:31:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83927 On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:10:36 +0100 Shez wrote: > YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." Damn - I *did*. Goodnight all. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:50:36 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-007.newsdawg.com User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83951 In article , cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: > The word in question was the BASIC command on the Oric home micros to > switch into graphics mode... Nah, it was the BASIC command on the Apple II+ to switch into hi-rez graphics mode. -- Howard S Shubs "Run in circles, scream and shout!" "I hope you have good backups!" ###### From: "PL" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <2eQW6.2790$1U5.21850204@news1.tor.primus.ca> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:33:31 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.254.167.116 X-Complaints-To: news@primus.ca X-Trace: news1.tor.primus.ca 992727038 216.254.167.116 (Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:30:38 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:30:38 EDT Organization: Primus Canada Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.cgocable.net!feed.nntp.primus.ca!feed.nntp.primus.ca!news1.tor.primus.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83941 YKYBHTLW you can translate 'YKYBHTLW', having never encountered it before. "Shez" wrote in message news:uPnErkQ8T4K7Ewgx@xerez.nospam.co.uk... > YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." > > -Shez. > -- > ______________________________________________________ > > Black holes are where God is dividing by zero > ______________________________________________________ > Take a break at the Last Stop Cafe: http://www.xerez.demon.co.uk/ ###### From: "Roger Johnstone" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:38:30 +1200 Organization: ihug ( New Zealand ) Lines: 27 Message-ID: <9gh58o$585$1@lust.ihug.co.nz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p2-max1.inv.ihug.co.nz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 992745561 5381 203.173.222.130 (17 Jun 2001 02:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 02:39:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!204.71.34.15!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed.yosemite.net!nntp-relay.ihug.net!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83904 In article , Howard S Shubs wrote: > In article , > cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) wrote: > >> The word in question was the BASIC command on the Oric home micros to >> switch into graphics mode... > > Nah, it was the BASIC command on the Apple II+ to switch into hi-rez graphics > mode. > -- > Howard S Shubs > "Run in circles, scream and shout!" "I hope you have good backups!" You're thing of HGR, which turned on the high-resolution graphics mode, hi-res for short. -- Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand Apple II - Future Cop:LAPD - Warcraft II http://homepage.mac.com/rojaws ______________________________________________________________________ Oh sweet Baby Jesus, if Windows is the OS of the future, please let me die now - Bryan Chaffin, The Mac Observer ###### From: jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: Reply-To: jra@baylink.com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Lines: 15 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:11:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.161.245.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.tampabay.rr.com 992758298 24.161.245.59 (Sun, 17 Jun 2001 02:11:38 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 02:11:38 EDT Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.tampabay.rr.com!news-post.tampabay.rr.com!typhoon.tampabay.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83944 *Right* in the middle of the appendectomy, Shez turned to Hawkeye and me and said: > YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." Yeah, Hi-Res Rootbeer was always my favorite. Do they still make it? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 08:31:12 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 11 Message-ID: <20010617083112.3014d1c8.steveo@eircom.net> References: <2eQW6.2790$1U5.21850204@news1.tor.primus.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1151.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 992764598 266 194.134.203.132 (17 Jun 2001 07:56:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:56:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!cleanfeed.casema.net!leda.casema.net!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83931 On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:33:31 -0400 "PL" wrote: > YKYBHTLW you can translate 'YKYBHTLW', having never encountered it before. You cannot possibly have BHTL without encountering it, but YBHLE :) -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### Message-ID: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:35:21 -0700 From: Charles Richmond Reply-To: richmond@ev1.net Organization: Cannine Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: c1656384-a.plano1.tx.home.com X-Trace: newsa.ev1.net 992759745 c1656384-a.plano1.tx.home.com (17 Jun 2001 01:35:45 -0500) Lines: 15 X-Authenticated-User: richmond Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!newsa.ev1.net Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83958 "Jay R. Ashworth" wrote: > > *Right* in the middle of the appendectomy, Shez turned > to Hawkeye and me and said: > > YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." > > Yeah, Hi-Res Rootbeer was always my favorite. Do they still make it? > Hey!!! Do *not* bring up Rootbeer unless you have a Rootbeer for *everyone* here!!! (Gee, I am feeling kinda' thirsty right now!!!) -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:06:09 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 12 Message-ID: <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1003.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 992774159 62297 194.134.202.240 (17 Jun 2001 10:35:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:35:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!newshub1.nl.home.com!news.nl.home.com!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83932 On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:35:21 -0700 Charles Richmond wrote: CR> Hey!!! Do *not* bring up Rootbeer unless you have a Rootbeer for CR> *everyone* here!!! (Gee, I am feeling kinda' thirsty right now!!!) Now that would be a neat trick with store and forward. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: Paul Guertin Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:43:30 +0900 Organization: Amalgamated Karma Lines: 10 Message-ID: <1h9oitsq9cc8g0hfq9n34b17mk6p5b4mup@news.newsguy.com> References: Reply-To: pg@sff.net NNTP-Posting-Host: p-642.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83922 Howard S Shubs wrote: > ["hires"] was the BASIC command on the Apple II+ to switch into hi-rez graphics > mode. No, the Apple II uses "HGR" for page 1 and "HGR2" for page 2. You can also CALL -3100 to change modes non-destructively. Paul Guertin pg@sff.net ###### From: bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au (Bernd Felsche) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 17 Jun 2001 19:44:31 +0800 Organization: Innovative Reckoning Message-ID: <9gi56v$3ts$1@flywheel.innovative.iinet.net.au> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: innovative.iinet.net.au X-Trace: news.iinet.net.au 992778480 20060 203.59.144.24 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.stealth.net!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!nsw.nnrp.telstra.net!news.syd.connect.com.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.per.connect.com.au!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!news.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83901 Charles Richmond writes: >"Jay R. Ashworth" wrote: >> >> *Right* in the middle of the appendectomy, Shez turned >> to Hawkeye and me and said: >> > YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." >> >> Yeah, Hi-Res Rootbeer was always my favorite. Do they still make it? >> >Hey!!! Do *not* bring up Rootbeer unless you have a Rootbeer for >*everyone* here!!! (Gee, I am feeling kinda' thirsty right now!!!) The only way you're going to get a drink out of me is by sticking your finger down my throat. :-) -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | I'm a .signature virus! | X against HTML mail | Copy me into your ~/.signature| / \ and postings | to help me spread! | ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:15:03 +0100 Organization: All yuor pie are belong to us!! Message-ID: <71eig9.pe1.ln@teabag.cbhnet> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <9gi56v$3ts$1@flywheel.innovative.iinet.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 992791298 nnrp-02:17359 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test75 (Feb 13, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 10 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83909 According to Bernd Felsche : > The only way you're going to get a drink out of me is by sticking > your finger down my throat. :-) Pouring a root beer down my throat would have much the same effect. Chris. -- //USENET01 JOB (CBH,ISA),'TALKING BOLLOCKS',REGION=4000K,CLASS=F, // MSGCLASS=A,PASSWORD=WIBBLE,USER=CBH,COND=(04,LT) ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:28:35 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 15 Message-ID: <20010617162835.5e294fb5.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <9gi56v$3ts$1@flywheel.innovative.iinet.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1088.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 992790238 16867 194.134.203.69 (17 Jun 2001 15:03:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:03:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83936 On 17 Jun 2001 19:44:31 +0800 bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au (Bernd Felsche) wrote: BF> The only way you're going to get a drink out of me is by sticking BF> your finger down my throat. :-) I would think a hole almost anywhere and a straw would produce a more nutritious drink from you. Hmm, I seem to be in a cannibal mood today, now who's for dinner :) -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: mwmiller@columbus.rr.com (Matthew W. Miller) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: Reply-To: mwmiller@columbus.rr.com Approved: The cabal would never approve! Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Lines: 10 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 04:50:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.24.100.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.columbus.rr.com 992839830 65.24.100.78 (Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:50:30 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:50:30 EDT Organization: Road Runner Columbus Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newshunter!cosy.sbg.ac.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.kpnqwest.at!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!cyclone.columbus.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone-midwest.rr.com!typhoon.columbus.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84003 On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:11:38 GMT, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: >Shez wrote: >> YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." >Yeah, Hi-Res Rootbeer was always my favorite. Do they still make it? Last I checked, yes. Me, I once pixelled together a cheesy little drawing of a mug of "Hi-res" root beer, but the cleverness was not borne out by the picture quality. -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com ###### From: "Paul Grayson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:27:44 +0100 Organization: Customer of Energis Squared Lines: 13 Message-ID: <9gkhfr$77o$1@newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: host94.bjss.co.uk X-Trace: newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net 992856379 7416 194.152.80.94 (18 Jun 2001 09:26:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jun 2001 09:26:19 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83967 "Chris Hedley" wrote in message news:cidgg9.6b5.ln@teabag.cbhnet... > According to Shez : > > YKYBHTLW you read word "hires" as "hi-res." > > The word in question was the BASIC command on the Oric home micros to > switch into graphics mode... Didn't Oric BASIC have EXPLODE as a keyword? Unfortunatly this was not a emulation of HCF (halt and catch fire). ###### From: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:53:05 +0100 Organization: All yuor pie are belong to us!! Message-ID: <13qkg9.052.ln@teabag.cbhnet> References: <9gkhfr$77o$1@newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 992877245 nnrp-14:5038 NO-IDENT teabag.demon.co.uk:193.237.4.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test75 (Feb 13, 2001) Originator: cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk (Chris Hedley) Lines: 12 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!teabag.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83972 According to Paul Grayson : > Didn't Oric BASIC have EXPLODE as a keyword? Unfortunatly this was > not a emulation of HCF (halt and catch fire). I believe so. Not being an Oric owner (although I liked the look of the Oric Atmos a lot back then) I'm can't say for certain what it did, but I imagine probably what the name suggests, ie made an explosion noise... Chris. -- //USENET01 JOB (CBH,ISA),'TALKING BOLLOCKS',REGION=4000K,CLASS=F, // MSGCLASS=A,PASSWORD=WIBBLE,USER=CBH,COND=(04,LT) ###### From: "Paul Grayson" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:08:46 +0100 Organization: Customer of Energis Squared Lines: 22 Message-ID: <9gl92d$glt$1@newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net> References: <9gkhfr$77o$1@newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net> <13qkg9.052.ln@teabag.cbhnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: host94.bjss.co.uk X-Trace: newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net 992880525 17085 194.152.80.94 (18 Jun 2001 16:08:45 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jun 2001 16:08:45 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:83966 "Chris Hedley" wrote in message news:13qkg9.052.ln@teabag.cbhnet... > According to Paul Grayson : > > Didn't Oric BASIC have EXPLODE as a keyword? Unfortunatly this was > > not a emulation of HCF (halt and catch fire). > > I believe so. Not being an Oric owner (although I liked the look of the > Oric Atmos a lot back then) I'm can't say for certain what it did, but I > imagine probably what the name suggests, ie made an explosion noise... I never had an Oric either. I've just discovered the Oric FAQ at http://freespace.virgin.net/james.groom/oric/oricfaq.htm. There were 4 noise associated BASIC keywords: EXPLODE, ZAP, PING and SHOOT. Very silly! ###### From: ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 18 Jun 2001 21:28:47 +0100 Organization: P850 User Group Message-ID: <9glo9v$pk@p850ug1.demon.co.uk> References: <9gkhfr$77o$1@newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net> <13qkg9.052.ln@teabag.cbhnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: p850ug1.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: p850ug1.demon.co.uk:158.152.97.199 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 992900208 nnrp-07:27673 NO-IDENT p850ug1.demon.co.uk:158.152.97.199 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 30 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!skynet.be!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!p850ug1.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84080 Chris Hedley (cbh@ieya.co.REMOVE_THIS.uk) wrote: : According to Paul Grayson : : > Didn't Oric BASIC have EXPLODE as a keyword? Unfortunatly this was : > not a emulation of HCF (halt and catch fire). : I believe so. Not being an Oric owner (although I liked the look of the : Oric Atmos a lot back then) I'm can't say for certain what it did, but I : imagine probably what the name suggests, ie made an explosion noise... Yes (or at least according to the Oric Manual I've jsut dug out). EXPLODE 'generates an explosion'. It's in the chapter on sound, so I guess it's more correct to say it generates the sound of an explosion. There's also ZAP 'This will procude a rapidly falling whistling tone that suggests a 'galactic Laser gun' PING, 'A bell light tone' SHOOT 'simulates the sound of a gun being fired' -tony : Chris. : -- : //USENET01 JOB (CBH,ISA),'TALKING BOLLOCKS',REGION=4000K,CLASS=F, : // MSGCLASS=A,PASSWORD=WIBBLE,USER=CBH,COND=(04,LT) ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Wed, 11 Jul 01 08:33:15 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ388EQCSWSBtznwYl5WTIEQhz/vH+lyrI3xzG8NinwUnODilYyaaeq X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Jul 2001 11:12:15 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-245-47 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85033 In article , ehrice@his.com (Edward Rice) wrote: >In article <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net>, >Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:35:21 -0700 > > Charles Richmond wrote: > > > > CR> Hey!!! Do *not* bring up Rootbeer unless you have a Rootbeer for > > CR> *everyone* here!!! (Gee, I am feeling kinda' thirsty right now!!!) > > > > Now that would be a neat trick with store and forward. > >Long, long ago, when ARPAnet was still being addressed in octal (mostly >two-octet, at that!) node numbers, I telnetted to Carnegie Mellon >University and looked around their machine. Finding that they had a big >cheese-buying co-op running, one which sounded like it served up some >excellent local cheeses, I e-mailed someone there asking of non-CMU people >could in some way participate. > >I got back a cordial note declining my request, saying that until the team >had CTP working better this would not be possible. > >This would have been, very roughly, 1976. (Which makes 2001, even more >roughly, the 25th-or-26th-or-27th anniversary of my getting on the net.) Wow! You're old [very awed emoticon here]. I had a very protected childhood since I didn't get on this net until 1995. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu (Prof. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 22 Jun 2001 20:26:43 GMT Organization: House of Hawkins Lines: 26 Message-ID: <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: fac13.ds.psu.edu X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test75 (Feb 13, 2001) Originator: hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu (Prof. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84376 In article <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:35:21 -0700 >Charles Richmond wrote: >CR> Hey!!! Do *not* bring up Rootbeer unless you have a Rootbeer for >CR> *everyone* here!!! (Gee, I am feeling kinda' thirsty right now!!!) > Now that would be a neat trick with store and forward. A few years ago on rec.crafts.brewing, we came up with the notion of the .bpg compressoin format for electronic forwarding of samples . . . hmm, it's been a while. wase it r.c.b or rec.food.drink.beer where it came up . . . as I recall, there were a couple ( but not many) that frequented both, so it may have cross-pollenated . . . hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Reply-To: jra@baylink.com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Lines: 25 Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:52:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.161.245.237 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.tampabay.rr.com 993271925 24.161.245.237 (Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:52:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:52:05 EDT Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.tampabay.rr.com!news-post.tampabay.rr.com!typhoon.tampabay.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84693 *Right* in the middle of the appendectomy, Prof. Richard E. Hawkins turned to Hawkeye and me and said: > In article <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net>, > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:35:21 -0700 > >Charles Richmond wrote: > >CR> Hey!!! Do *not* bring up Rootbeer unless you have a Rootbeer for > >CR> *everyone* here!!! (Gee, I am feeling kinda' thirsty right now!!!) > > > Now that would be a neat trick with store and forward. > > A few years ago on rec.crafts.brewing, we came up with the notion > of the .bpg compressoin format for electronic forwarding of samples . . Fax me a slice of pizza? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 01:15:42 -0400 Organization: ='SEQUENTIAL' Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-183.newsdawg.com User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!howard Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84817 In article , jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) wrote: > Fax me a slice of pizza? Nah, TV me (oooo, a verb use of "tv") a Wonka chocolate bar. -- Howard S Shubs "Run in circles, scream and shout!" "I hope you have good backups!" ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:10:42 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 11 Message-ID: <20010623111042.1f0f4645.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1505.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 993289349 58245 194.134.170.230 (23 Jun 2001 09:42:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:42:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84640 On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:52:05 GMT jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) wrote: JA> Fax me a slice of pizza? Hmm, the pizza is all squished and the fax machine is beeping - what a mess :) -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au (Bernd Felsche) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 23 Jun 2001 22:45:00 +0800 Organization: Innovative Reckoning Message-ID: <9h2a1c$gu4$1@flywheel.innovative.iinet.net.au> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <20010623111042.1f0f4645.steveo@eircom.net> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: innovative.iinet.net.au X-Trace: news.iinet.net.au 993307651 16824 203.59.144.24 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newscore.gigabell.net!bignews.mediaways.net!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!news.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84326 Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: >On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:52:05 GMT >jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) wrote: >JA> Fax me a slice of pizza? >Hmm, the pizza is all squished and the fax machine is beeping - what a mess :) You're supposed to fax pizza topping-side down. Don't forget the swig of Jolt between slices. Bloody clueless 'merkins. :-) -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | I'm a .signature virus! | X against HTML mail | Copy me into your ~/.signature| / \ and postings | to help me spread! | ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:45:11 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 21 Message-ID: <20010623194511.6e9bbd73.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <20010623111042.1f0f4645.steveo@eircom.net> <9h2a1c$gu4$1@flywheel.innovative.iinet.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1484.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 993326393 61851 194.134.170.209 (23 Jun 2001 19:59:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:59:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84685 On 23 Jun 2001 22:45:00 +0800 bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au (Bernd Felsche) wrote: BF> Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: BF> >Hmm, the pizza is all squished and the fax machine is beeping - what a mess :) BF> BF> You're supposed to fax pizza topping-side down. Don't forget the BF> swig of Jolt between slices. Nope, it doesn't matter *which* way up I put the pizza in the fax machine it just gets squished and the machine beeps at me. BF> Bloody clueless 'merkins. :-) I am *not* a 'merkin, I'm Anglo-Irish and usually found in Holland (no Jolt round here is *that* the problem). -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu (Prof. Richard E. Hawkins) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 23 Jun 2001 18:52:31 GMT Organization: House of Hawkins Lines: 20 Message-ID: <9h2ohf$1id6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <20010623111042.1f0f4645.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: fac13.ds.psu.edu X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test75 (Feb 13, 2001) Originator: hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu (Prof. Richard E. Hawkins) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84438 In article <20010623111042.1f0f4645.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:52:05 GMT >jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) wrote: >JA> Fax me a slice of pizza? >Hmm, the pizza is all squished and the fax machine is beeping - what a mess :) I went to a workshop a couple of years ago with someone who had to handle a tech support call from a genius who was trying to hold a sheet of paper to the monitor for his fax modem . . . hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ ###### From: jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <20010623111042.1f0f4645.steveo@eircom.net> Reply-To: jra@baylink.com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Lines: 20 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 06:47:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.154.232 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.tampabay.rr.com 993365274 24.129.154.232 (Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:47:54 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:47:54 EDT Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.tampabay.rr.com!news-post.tampabay.rr.com!typhoon.tampabay.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84717 *Right* in the middle of the appendectomy, Steve O'Hara-Smith turned to Hawkeye and me and said: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:52:05 GMT > jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) wrote: > > JA> Fax me a slice of pizza? > > Hmm, the pizza is all squished and the fax machine is beeping - what a mess :) Didn't make it through. Please try again. Cheers, - jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:05:15 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 21 Message-ID: <20010624090515.7ee21d41.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9h09m3$jee@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <20010623111042.1f0f4645.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p0809.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 993366675 5042 194.134.202.46 (24 Jun 2001 07:11:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 07:11:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:84658 On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 06:47:54 GMT jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) wrote: JA> *Right* in the middle of the appendectomy, Steve O'Hara-Smith turned JA> to Hawkeye and me and said: JA> > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:52:05 GMT JA> > jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) wrote: JA> > JA> > JA> Fax me a slice of pizza? JA> > JA> > Hmm, the pizza is all squished and the fax machine is beeping - what a mess :) JA> JA> Didn't make it through. Please try again. I gather the problem is that I need to lubricate the pizza with Jolt cola which is unobtainable round here, could you post some and I'll give it a go. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: ehrice@his.com (Edward Rice) Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Message-ID: Organization: NDS Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:17:24 -0400 References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: max1h-8.his.com X-Trace: vienna7.his.com 994828644 max1h-8.his.com (11 Jul 2001 01:17:24 -0400) Lines: 27 X-Authenticated-User: ehrice Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!xcski.com!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!vienna7.his.com!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85014 In article <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net>, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:35:21 -0700 > Charles Richmond wrote: > > CR> Hey!!! Do *not* bring up Rootbeer unless you have a Rootbeer for > CR> *everyone* here!!! (Gee, I am feeling kinda' thirsty right now!!!) > > Now that would be a neat trick with store and forward. Long, long ago, when ARPAnet was still being addressed in octal (mostly two-octet, at that!) node numbers, I telnetted to Carnegie Mellon University and looked around their machine. Finding that they had a big cheese-buying co-op running, one which sounded like it served up some excellent local cheeses, I e-mailed someone there asking of non-CMU people could in some way participate. I got back a cordial note declining my request, saying that until the team had CTP working better this would not be possible. This would have been, very roughly, 1976. (Which makes 2001, even more roughly, the 25th-or-26th-or-27th anniversary of my getting on the net.) Edward ###### From: Steve O'Hara-Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 07:35:19 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo NL Lines: 22 Message-ID: <20010711073519.4c0c9d39.steveo@eircom.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p1317.vcu.wanadoo.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: scavenger.euro.net 994831388 17983 194.134.170.42 (11 Jul 2001 06:03:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:03:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news2.euro.net!news.euronet.nl!ams-gw.sohara.org!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85081 On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:17:24 -0400 ehrice@his.com (Edward Rice) wrote: ER> I got back a cordial note declining my request, saying that until the team ER> had CTP working better this would not be possible. CTP is *still* not working properly. Just recently a cow orker in the Oxford office decided to send a sample of a cheese known as Stinking Bishop to us (in the Amsterdam office) and was forced to resort to the internal mail. Fortunately this piece of chemical weaponry was recognised and disposed of before anyone was foolish enough to untie the knot on the plastic bag. ER> This would have been, very roughly, 1976. (Which makes 2001, even more ER> roughly, the 25th-or-26th-or-27th anniversary of my getting on the net.) Right place, right time - it's a hard combination to beat :) -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Thu, 12 Jul 01 09:39:16 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 52 Message-ID: <9ik4ig$bo9$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYdSWVX4YyXZMZuqp6oyC9pFKnhDU6hFVv8X3S2jR20qlVQ8VfUc79X X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Jul 2001 12:18:24 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-251 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85127 In article , Ric Werme wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >>In article , >> ehrice@his.com (Edward Rice) wrote: > >>>I got back a cordial note declining my request, saying that until the team >>>had CTP working better this would not be possible. >>> >>>This would have been, very roughly, 1976. (Which makes 2001, even more >>>roughly, the 25th-or-26th-or-27th anniversary of my getting on the net.) > >>Wow! You're old [very awed emoticon here]. I had a very protected >>childhood since I didn't get on this net until 1995. > >Aw, gee Barb. I _left_ C-MU in 1974. While wasn't around for the >start of CTP, we did talk about automating the pizza order for the >Saturday night pizza bash. I usually got 1/2 LPO - half a large >Pepperoni and Onion pizza. I took over the CMU's TOPS-10 ARPAnet >development in 1972. I don't remember you telling me those stories. But, my statement still stands; _I_ did not play with this aspect of the biz until Jim died. > >One of the major down aspects of going to DEC was leaving the ARPAnet >community (and Email) behind. One of the most pleasant spinoffs of >working on it was visiting HARV-10 at Harvard and being treated like >royalty since they were the _other_ TOPS-10 site at the time and their >developer had left for Xeroc PARC. > >One of my dumber things was signing the paper at DEC promising not to >moonlight, as I was expecting I could maintain TOPS-10 ARPAnet code at >Harvard for fun and a little money. Hmmm..I don't remember signing such a paper. But then they may not have worried about Wage Class 2 types. > >I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. How old >do you feel now? As old as you. Just because I helped produce the damn things doesn't mean that I had access to the net. Even if I did have access to the net, I don't think I'd take the time off from working to play. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> From: Ric Werme X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #119 Lines: 36 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:18:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.168.185.9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 994897108 24.168.185.9 (Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:18:28 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:18:28 EDT Organization: Road Runner Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws06.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.70!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85181 jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: >In article , > ehrice@his.com (Edward Rice) wrote: >>I got back a cordial note declining my request, saying that until the team >>had CTP working better this would not be possible. >> >>This would have been, very roughly, 1976. (Which makes 2001, even more >>roughly, the 25th-or-26th-or-27th anniversary of my getting on the net.) >Wow! You're old [very awed emoticon here]. I had a very protected >childhood since I didn't get on this net until 1995. Aw, gee Barb. I _left_ C-MU in 1974. While wasn't around for the start of CTP, we did talk about automating the pizza order for the Saturday night pizza bash. I usually got 1/2 LPO - half a large Pepperoni and Onion pizza. I took over the CMU's TOPS-10 ARPAnet development in 1972. One of the major down aspects of going to DEC was leaving the ARPAnet community (and Email) behind. One of the most pleasant spinoffs of working on it was visiting HARV-10 at Harvard and being treated like royalty since they were the _other_ TOPS-10 site at the time and their developer had left for Xeroc PARC. One of my dumber things was signing the paper at DEC promising not to moonlight, as I was expecting I could maintain TOPS-10 ARPAnet code at Harvard for fun and a little money. I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. How old do you feel now? -Ric -- Ric Werme | werme@nospam.mediaone.net http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme | ^^^^^^^ delete ###### From: jra@dorothy.msas.net (Jay R. Ashworth) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> Reply-To: jra@baylink.com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Lines: 18 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 04:19:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.34.59.227 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.tampabay.rr.com 994911585 65.34.59.227 (Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:19:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:19:45 EDT Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!newsfeed.nyc.globix.net!news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.tampabay.rr.com!news-post.tampabay.rr.com!typhoon.tampabay.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85169 *Right* in the middle of the appendectomy, Ric Werme turned to Hawkeye and me and said: > I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. How old > do you feel now? Not that old. :-) Wrote my first line of paying code at about 16.5, 2 decades ago, and got on Usenet about 2 years later. Cheers, - jc3b21!jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Baylink The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c (apologies for the delay in attribution) ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Fri, 13 Jul 01 10:44:08 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <9imsoe$muq$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9imsdi$bhm$2@news.panix.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVa830txlGMezkVlZO0NWiGmVCLSdl9pQXF27je/+uq0qcIhY2Rd4hep X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jul 2001 13:23:26 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-255-252 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85203 In article <9imsdi$bhm$2@news.panix.com>, never+mail@panics.com.invalid (Michael Roach) wrote: > >In article <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular>, >Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>In article >>TonyLima2@att.net (Tony Lima) writes: >>> >>>Hey, I was writing Fortran programs and getting paid for it >>>in my undergraduate days (around 1968). Does that count? - >> >>I was an undergrad then too, and someone did give me $20 to >>write a FORTRAN number-cruncher for him. But my first real >>job started in 1970, and I've been at it ever since. > >I've had at least 11 jobs with nine different employers since then. When >do you think you'll finish? 8^) I hope never. He tells good stories. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 12 Jul 01 23:00:56 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-636.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!171.64.14.106!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85217 In article TonyLima2@att.net (Tony Lima) writes: >On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:18:28 GMT, Ric Werme > wrote: > >>I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. >>How old do you feel now? > >Hey, I was writing Fortran programs and getting paid for it >in my undergraduate days (around 1968). Does that count? - I was an undergrad then too, and someone did give me $20 to write a FORTRAN number-cruncher for him. But my first real job started in 1970, and I've been at it ever since. -- cgibbs@nowhere.in.particular (Charlie Gibbs) I'm switching ISPs - watch this space. ###### From: Tony Lima Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Organization: Tony Lima Associates Reply-To: TonyLima2@att.net Message-ID: References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/16.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:09:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.89.204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 994990188 12.81.89.204 (Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:09:48 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:09:48 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news-out.worldnet.att.net.MISMATCH!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.71!wnfilter1!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85225 On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:18:28 GMT, Ric Werme wrote: >I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. How old >do you feel now? > > -Ric Hey, I was writing Fortran programs and getting paid for it in my undergraduate days (around 1968). Does that count? - Tony ###### From: never+mail@panics.com.invalid (Michael Roach) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 13 Jul 2001 13:17:38 GMT Organization: A small notepad underneath my in box Lines: 17 Message-ID: <9imsdi$bhm$2@news.panix.com> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix1.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 995030258 11830 166.84.0.226 (13 Jul 2001 13:17:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jul 2001 13:17:38 GMT X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test74 (May 26, 2000) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85200 In article <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular>, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >In article >TonyLima2@att.net (Tony Lima) writes: >> >>Hey, I was writing Fortran programs and getting paid for it >>in my undergraduate days (around 1968). Does that count? - > >I was an undergrad then too, and someone did give me $20 to >write a FORTRAN number-cruncher for him. But my first real >job started in 1970, and I've been at it ever since. I've had at least 11 jobs with nine different employers since then. When do you think you'll finish? 8^) -- Please, won't somebody tell me what diddie-wa-diddie means? ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 14 Jul 01 09:13:37 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 34 Message-ID: <9ipbr1$8p$3@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbIg9sjlK0J16pBzyGY1XeIrQS/eSIgiEcj95bgloPeLCf0RPtkl2q2 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jul 2001 11:53:05 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-245-51 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85244 In article , Tony Lima wrote: >On 12 Jul 01 23:00:56 -0800, "Charlie Gibbs" > wrote: > >>In article >>TonyLima2@att.net (Tony Lima) writes: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:18:28 GMT, Ric Werme >>> wrote: >>> >>>>I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. >>>>How old do you feel now? >>> >>>Hey, I was writing Fortran programs and getting paid for it >>>in my undergraduate days (around 1968). Does that count? - >> >>I was an undergrad then too, and someone did give me $20 to >>write a FORTRAN number-cruncher for him. But my first real >>job started in 1970, and I've been at it ever since. > >Well, it was a little more than that -- I was de facto >research assistant to an Sc.D. candidate in electrical >engineering. We were simulating lightning strikes (if >memory serves). - Tony Neat! Errmmm.... How the hell did you simulate them? You don't have to go into detail. I'm just curious if the strikes were from a data base or some kind of unpronuncible Fortran line that an equal sign in it. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sat, 14 Jul 01 09:10:34 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 44 Message-ID: <9ipbla$8p$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9imsdi$bhm$2@news.panix.com> <9imsoe$muq$2@bob.news.rcn.net> <1232.594T1945T6395590@nowhere.in.particular> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbGJX7NRgh7b6h3t5brh7F4SVIl7AkRD3DDpimzGSAGlJ8I0DgBjtAY X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jul 2001 11:50:02 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-245-51 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85247 In article <1232.594T1945T6395590@nowhere.in.particular>, "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: >In article <9imsoe$muq$2@bob.news.rcn.net> jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) >writes: > >>In article <9imsdi$bhm$2@news.panix.com>, >>never+mail@panics.com.invalid (Michael Roach) wrote: >> >>>In article <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular>, >>>Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>In article >>>>TonyLima2@att.net (Tony Lima) writes: >>>> >>>>>Hey, I was writing Fortran programs and getting paid for it >>>>>in my undergraduate days (around 1968). Does that count? - >>>> >>>>I was an undergrad then too, and someone did give me $20 to >>>>write a FORTRAN number-cruncher for him. But my first real >>>>job started in 1970, and I've been at it ever since. >>> >>>I've had at least 11 jobs with nine different employers since then. >>>When do you think you'll finish? 8^) >> >>I hope never. He tells good stories. > >Thanks, Barb. So do you. Thanks. I try. > >As for employers, I think I'm on about my fifth. But he's me, and >I'm looking forward to continuing the relationship for some time. :-) Heh. I'd never work for me. I'm a PITA in both jobs. >I don't get as many stupid office stories (except second-hand), but I >still get LOTS of stupid customer stories. > A lot of those stupid customer stories ended up in our code. "What possessed him to try _that_?" /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 13 Jul 01 10:39:38 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 34 Message-ID: <1232.594T1945T6395590@nowhere.in.particular> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9imsdi$bhm$2@news.panix.com> <9imsoe$muq$2@bob.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-157.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!194.74.65.73.MISMATCH!btnet-peer0!btnet-peer1!btnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub2.home.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85271 In article <9imsoe$muq$2@bob.news.rcn.net> jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) writes: >In article <9imsdi$bhm$2@news.panix.com>, >never+mail@panics.com.invalid (Michael Roach) wrote: > >>In article <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular>, >>Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>In article >>>TonyLima2@att.net (Tony Lima) writes: >>> >>>>Hey, I was writing Fortran programs and getting paid for it >>>>in my undergraduate days (around 1968). Does that count? - >>> >>>I was an undergrad then too, and someone did give me $20 to >>>write a FORTRAN number-cruncher for him. But my first real >>>job started in 1970, and I've been at it ever since. >> >>I've had at least 11 jobs with nine different employers since then. >>When do you think you'll finish? 8^) > >I hope never. He tells good stories. Thanks, Barb. So do you. As for employers, I think I'm on about my fifth. But he's me, and I'm looking forward to continuing the relationship for some time. :-) I don't get as many stupid office stories (except second-hand), but I still get LOTS of stupid customer stories. -- cgibbs@nowhere.in.particular (Charlie Gibbs) I'm switching ISPs - watch this space. ###### Sender: lynn@LYNNLT Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> Reply-To: Anne & Lynn Wheeler From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler Message-ID: Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:39:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 154.15.13.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 995056779 154.15.13.188 (Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:39:39 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:39:39 PDT X-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:37:06 PDT (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85249 Ric Werme writes: > > I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. How old > do you feel now? my first computer course was a 2hr intro to fortran the spring semester. they then hired me that summer to port a 1401 program that did unit record i/o front-end for a 709 to a 360 (actually, I had the specs of the 1401 program and resulting tapes ... and i designed and wrote a 360 assembler program from scratch that did the same thing). i was still an undergraduate when BCS was formed very late 68 and IBM and Boeing wanted me to teach a one week (40hr) computer class to the BCS technical staff early in 69. It had to wait until spring break when I had a week free from my own classes. -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | lynn@garlic.com, http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ ###### From: Tony Lima Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Organization: Tony Lima Associates Reply-To: TonyLima2@att.net Message-ID: References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/16.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:58:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.66.240 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 995061524 12.81.66.240 (Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:58:44 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:58:44 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news-out.worldnet.att.net.MISMATCH!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.72!wnfilter2!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85279 On 12 Jul 01 23:00:56 -0800, "Charlie Gibbs" wrote: >In article >TonyLima2@att.net (Tony Lima) writes: > >>On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:18:28 GMT, Ric Werme >> wrote: >> >>>I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. >>>How old do you feel now? >> >>Hey, I was writing Fortran programs and getting paid for it >>in my undergraduate days (around 1968). Does that count? - > >I was an undergrad then too, and someone did give me $20 to >write a FORTRAN number-cruncher for him. But my first real >job started in 1970, and I've been at it ever since. Well, it was a little more than that -- I was de facto research assistant to an Sc.D. candidate in electrical engineering. We were simulating lightning strikes (if memory serves). - Tony ###### From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:34:41 GMT Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd Message-ID: <995067281snz@dsl.co.uk> References: X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 995105032 mail2news:4857 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!dsl.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.31 Lines: 26 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!195.238.2.15!skynet.be!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85285 In article lynn@garlic.com writes: > i was still an undergraduate when BCS was formed very late 68 and IBM > and Boeing wanted me to teach a one week (40hr) computer class to the > BCS technical staff early in 69. It had to wait until spring break > when I had a week free from my own classes. That's a load of bollocks (if you'll pardon my French). The BCS was formed before I started working for a living in this field (which was 1964). In 1966, I used to be in awe when I regularly travelled up in the lift[1] with Stanley Gill, who was one of the first FBCS. I have a feeling that the BCS goes back right into the 1950s, with Maurice Wilkes and his peers being some of the first member. My boss at that time (1966), Harry Baecker, also was made an FBCS. Or (errm) are we not talking about the British Computer Society? [1] Or had coffee bought for me in the canteen by, or whatever. -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr- easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9imsdi$bhm$2@news.panix.com> <9imsoe$muq$2@bob.news.rcn.net> <1232.594T1945T6395590@nowhere.in.particular> From: Bernd Felsche User-Agent: nn/6.6.beta2 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:21:42 +0800 Message-ID: <6tkoi9.r2i.ln@innovative.iinet.net.au> Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: innovative.iinet.net.au X-Trace: news.iinet.net.au 995088505 20709 203.59.144.24 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!kanja.arnes.si!news-hub.siol.net!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!skynet.be!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!news.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85277 "Charlie Gibbs" writes: >As for employers, I think I'm on about my fifth. But he's me, and >I'm looking forward to continuing the relationship for some time. :-) You have the world's worst (and best) boss. >I don't get as many stupid office stories (except second-hand), but I >still get LOTS of stupid customer stories. I don't think I can write fast enough to describe all the stupid customer stories. -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | I'm a .signature virus! | X against HTML mail | Copy me into your ~/.signature| / \ and postings | to help me spread! | ###### From: Tony Lima Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Organization: Tony Lima Associates Reply-To: TonyLima2@att.net Message-ID: References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9ipbr1$8p$3@bob.news.rcn.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/16.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:25:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.67.253 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 995135147 12.81.67.253 (Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:25:47 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:25:47 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news-out.worldnet.att.net.MISMATCH!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.72!wnfilter2!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85296 On Sat, 14 Jul 01 09:13:37 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article , > Tony Lima wrote: >>Well, it was a little more than that -- I was de facto >>research assistant to an Sc.D. candidate in electrical >>engineering. We were simulating lightning strikes (if >>memory serves). - Tony > >Neat! Errmmm.... How the hell did >you simulate them? You don't have to go into detail. I'm >just curious if the strikes were from a data base or some >kind of unpronuncible Fortran line that an equal sign in it. MEMORY OVERFLOW. PROGRAM TERMINATED. Seriously, 1968 was way too long ago. I believe the guy was doing research on how lightning strikes affected electrical transmission transformers. Other than that, I can't remember any details. Ask me in another year -- by then, 1968 should be the only year I can remember! - Tony ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Sun, 15 Jul 01 07:24:02 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 39 Message-ID: <9irppq$a02$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9ipbr1$8p$3@bob.news.rcn.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZHFU1R4506h+23cd5I0thC9wN5/sVAGVIU9475VE77uGm7vDxyZb48 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jul 2001 10:03:38 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-121 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85300 In article , Tony Lima wrote: >On Sat, 14 Jul 01 09:13:37 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>In article , >> Tony Lima wrote: >>>Well, it was a little more than that -- I was de facto >>>research assistant to an Sc.D. candidate in electrical >>>engineering. We were simulating lightning strikes (if >>>memory serves). - Tony >> >>Neat! Errmmm.... How the hell did >>you simulate them? You don't have to go into detail. I'm >>just curious if the strikes were from a data base or some >>kind of unpronuncible Fortran line that an equal sign in it. > >MEMORY OVERFLOW. PROGRAM TERMINATED. ROTFLMAO. I would have expected that old Fortran program to end like that. That's why I asked the question. > >Seriously, 1968 was way too long ago. That's OK. The only reason I remember that year was because they let me out of high school. > I believe the guy was >doing research on how lightning strikes affected electrical >transmission transformers. Other than that, I can't >remember any details. Ask me in another year -- by then, >1968 should be the only year I can remember! - Tony OK. Just let me know. ;-). I didn't mean to put you on the spot. The app sounded like there had to be a lot of data hanging around. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Sender: lynn@LYNNLT Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... References: <995067281snz@dsl.co.uk> Reply-To: Anne & Lynn Wheeler From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler Message-ID: Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 50 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:25:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 154.15.13.56 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 995145924 154.15.13.56 (Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:25:24 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:25:24 PDT X-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:23:04 PDT (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85302 bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) writes: > > That's a load of bollocks (if you'll pardon my French). The BCS was > formed before I started working for a living in this field (which was > 1964). In 1966, I used to be in awe when I regularly travelled up in the > lift[1] with Stanley Gill, who was one of the first FBCS. I have a > feeling that the BCS goes back right into the 1950s, with Maurice Wilkes > and his peers being some of the first member. > > My boss at that time (1966), Harry Baecker, also was made an FBCS. > > Or (errm) are we not talking about the British Computer Society? > > [1] Or had coffee bought for me in the canteen by, or whatever. BCS or boeing computing services was formed under the head of boeing corporate data processing in '68 and they then started moving various boeing data processing entities under his control (places like boeing renton data center, etc). The formation of BCS was, in part, to allow an independent company to offer data processing services to entities outside of the boeing computing corporation (as well as independently bid on various data processing contracts). I believe there was some amount of political infighting with the move of various boeing data processing centers into BCS under the (former) head of corporate data processing. The head of corporate data processing in the main buidling off boeing field was a relatively small operation responsible for payroll and other items ... and was dwarfed by even the boeing renton data center (by possibly a factor of 100 to 200). I believe it actually took a year or more to move all of the data processing entities and operations into BCS. I believe some comparison at the time (in '68) when BCS was formed ... corporate data processing had a single 360m30 (for doing things like payroll) and just renton data center alone had over $200m in 360m65s (plus some number of 360m75s, other IBM gear as well other as non-IBM data processing equipment). BCS then expanded into many places offering computing services ... In the past couple yeas I remember seeing BCS buildings in places from Tysons Corner to Pena blvd/I70 (i.e. near new denver airport). I believe I saw within the last year or so the statement that BCS was sold (to SAIC?). -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | lynn@garlic.com, http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ ###### From: Tony Lima Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Organization: Tony Lima Associates Reply-To: TonyLima2@att.net Message-ID: <67v3lt486183rot19b2pbdj9nuluqg9bep@4ax.com> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9ipbr1$8p$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <9irppq$a02$1@bob.news.rcn.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/16.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 44 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:44:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.79.63 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 995229842 12.81.79.63 (Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:44:02 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:44:02 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!kanja.arnes.si!news-hub.siol.net!newsfeed.rt.ru!news.algonet.se!algonet!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!news-out.worldnet.att.net.MISMATCH!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.71!wnfilter1!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85324 On Sun, 15 Jul 01 07:24:02 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article , > Tony Lima wrote: >>On Sat, 14 Jul 01 09:13:37 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >>>In article , >>> Tony Lima wrote: >>>>Well, it was a little more than that -- I was de facto >>>>research assistant to an Sc.D. candidate in electrical >>>>engineering. We were simulating lightning strikes (if >>>>memory serves). - Tony >>> >>>Neat! Errmmm.... How the hell did >>>you simulate them? You don't have to go into detail. I'm >>>just curious if the strikes were from a data base or some >>>kind of unpronuncible Fortran line that an equal sign in it. >> >>MEMORY OVERFLOW. PROGRAM TERMINATED. > >ROTFLMAO. I would have expected that old Fortran program >to end like that. That's why I asked the question. Yep, saw a lot of that. >>Seriously, 1968 was way too long ago. > >That's OK. The only reason I remember that year was because >they let me out of high school. Ah, you youngsters. >> I believe the guy was >>doing research on how lightning strikes affected electrical >>transmission transformers. Other than that, I can't >>remember any details. Ask me in another year -- by then, >>1968 should be the only year I can remember! - Tony > >OK. Just let me know. ;-). I didn't mean to put you >on the spot. The app sounded like there had to be a lot >of data hanging around. If memory serves, well over half the large card deck was data. - T ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Tue, 17 Jul 01 09:50:30 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 59 Message-ID: <9j1b53$8ip$10@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9ipbr1$8p$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <9irppq$a02$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <67v3lt486183rot19b2pbdj9nuluqg9bep@4ax.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZnRTD01+g7K3aFWX6PK0MmkSq5GCgA0kXffhTj2AqnO8lIm8szL7an X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jul 2001 12:30:27 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-255-166 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85341 In article <67v3lt486183rot19b2pbdj9nuluqg9bep@4ax.com>, Tony Lima wrote: >On Sun, 15 Jul 01 07:24:02 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>In article , >> Tony Lima wrote: >>>On Sat, 14 Jul 01 09:13:37 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>> >>>>In article , >>>> Tony Lima wrote: >>>>>Well, it was a little more than that -- I was de facto >>>>>research assistant to an Sc.D. candidate in electrical >>>>>engineering. We were simulating lightning strikes (if >>>>>memory serves). - Tony >>>> >>>>Neat! Errmmm.... How the hell did >>>>you simulate them? You don't have to go into detail. I'm >>>>just curious if the strikes were from a data base or some >>>>kind of unpronuncible Fortran line that an equal sign in it. >>> >>>MEMORY OVERFLOW. PROGRAM TERMINATED. >> >>ROTFLMAO. I would have expected that old Fortran program >>to end like that. That's why I asked the question. > >Yep, saw a lot of that. > >>>Seriously, 1968 was way too long ago. >> >>That's OK. The only reason I remember that year was because >>they let me out of high school. > >Ah, you youngsters. Thanks. I needed that. I'm hip-deep in a newsgroup where I'm feeling really, really old. But those "kids" have inadvertently whacked me across the head. I've some real meat to chew for while. > >>> I believe the guy was >>>doing research on how lightning strikes affected electrical >>>transmission transformers. Other than that, I can't >>>remember any details. Ask me in another year -- by then, >>>1968 should be the only year I can remember! - Tony >> >>OK. Just let me know. ;-). I didn't mean to put you >>on the spot. The app sounded like there had to be a lot >>of data hanging around. > >If memory serves, well over half the large card deck was >data. - T I figured the data transport mechanism was a forklift. :-) /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Wed, 18 Jul 01 08:26:55 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <9j3qkk$pb5$3@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9ipbr1$8p$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <9irppq$a02$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <67v3lt486183rot19b2pbdj9nuluqg9bep@4ax.com> <9j1b53$8ip$10@bob.news.rcn.net> <7h0alt0lkdf11e3q0immnfmgoi0qitbv48@4ax.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY/wdAnqop8LrLj80aaTxZItpvQc68IyppZUK6qAGy/b3Xbhl8YaxAr X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jul 2001 11:07:00 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-102-43 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85438 In article <7h0alt0lkdf11e3q0immnfmgoi0qitbv48@4ax.com>, Tony Lima wrote: >On Tue, 17 Jul 01 09:50:30 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >>>>OK. Just let me know. ;-). I didn't mean to put you >>>>on the spot. The app sounded like there had to be a lot >>>>of data hanging around. >>> >>>If memory serves, well over half the large card deck was >>>data. - T >> >>I figured the data transport mechanism was a forklift. :-) > >Son, back in those days we didn't have no forklifts, we >lugged our card decks around on our backs. - Tony But he was working on an official research project. Those people could acquire all kinds of playthings. I never hauled cards on my back--that would put them out of sight. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: Tony Lima Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Organization: Tony Lima Associates Reply-To: TonyLima2@att.net Message-ID: <7h0alt0lkdf11e3q0immnfmgoi0qitbv48@4ax.com> References: <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9ipbr1$8p$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <9irppq$a02$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <67v3lt486183rot19b2pbdj9nuluqg9bep@4ax.com> <9j1b53$8ip$10@bob.news.rcn.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/16.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 03:44:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.112.155 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 995427895 12.81.112.155 (Wed, 18 Jul 2001 03:44:55 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 03:44:55 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news-out.worldnet.att.net.MISMATCH!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.71!wnfilter1!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85455 On Tue, 17 Jul 01 09:50:30 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>>OK. Just let me know. ;-). I didn't mean to put you >>>on the spot. The app sounded like there had to be a lot >>>of data hanging around. >> >>If memory serves, well over half the large card deck was >>data. - T > >I figured the data transport mechanism was a forklift. :-) Son, back in those days we didn't have no forklifts, we lugged our card decks around on our backs. - Tony ###### From: Howard Siegel Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 18 Jul 2001 03:50:46 GMT Organization: Gallifrey Beach Club Lines: 48 Message-ID: <9j312m$liq$1@news.panix.com> References: <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> Reply-To: not.interested@nospam.invalid NNTP-Posting-Host: panix6.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 995428246 22106 166.84.0.231 (18 Jul 2001 03:50:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jul 2001 03:50:46 GMT X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test74 (May 26, 2000) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.bme.hu!andromeda.datanet.hu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85433 werme@mediaone.net writes: > jmfbahciv@aol.com writes: > >In article , > > ehrice@his.com (Edward Rice) wrote: > > >>I got back a cordial note declining my request, saying that until the team > >>had CTP working better this would not be possible. > >> > >>This would have been, very roughly, 1976. (Which makes 2001, even more > >>roughly, the 25th-or-26th-or-27th anniversary of my getting on the net.) > > >Wow! You're old [very awed emoticon here]. I had a very protected > >childhood since I didn't get on this net until 1995. > > Aw, gee Barb. I _left_ C-MU in 1974. While wasn't around for the > start of CTP, we did talk about automating the pizza order for the > Saturday night pizza bash. I usually got 1/2 LPO - half a large > Pepperoni and Onion pizza. I took over the CMU's TOPS-10 ARPAnet > development in 1972. >... > I've been making money off of computers since September 1969. How old > do you feel now? First "job" programming computers was in high school for my Physics class. That'd be about 1975, program took in time & distance data for a moving object and plotted it along with velocity, accelleration and jerk. Written on the LIRICS DECsystem-10 in BASIC and DEC Algol(!). First paying computer job was as a user abuser in the CMU Computer Center in '79. First paying programming job was in '80 at CMU, post-processing data from the FAA Rehost Validation Suite that ran on C.mmp (or was it CM*) just before they pulled the plug on the machine. In FORTRAN on one of the CompSci DECsystem-10's. (Note that the FAA Rehost has still not been fielded after more than 20 years!!!!). Left CMU in '80 for the "real" world. Don't feel quite as old as Ric, but it has been a long road! I really miss the CMU CompSci Cheese Co-op! - howard -- Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! <*> hsiegel<->at<->pobox<->dot<->com ###### From: johnf@panix.com (John Francis) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 18 Jul 2001 13:27:45 -0400 Organization: PANIX -- Public Access Networks Corp. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <9j4guh$8r8$1@panix2.panix.com> References: <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <9j312m$liq$1@news.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 995477266 20550 166.84.0.227 (18 Jul 2001 17:27:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jul 2001 17:27:46 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!panix!news.panix.com!panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85462 In article <9j312m$liq$1@news.panix.com>, Howard Siegel wrote: > >First "job" programming computers was in high school for my Physics >class. That'd be about 1975, program took in time & distance data >for a moving object and plotted it along with velocity, accelleration >and jerk. Written on the LIRICS DECsystem-10 in BASIC and DEC Algol(!). Aha. Well, if you ever submitted an SPR for DEC Algol, it would have probably passed across my desk. I was working for DEC in Reading in those days, supporting DEC Algol on the 10s (and, later, 20s). ###### From: slavins@hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:15:21 +0100 Organization: None Message-ID: References: <3B2C6BC9.D76C0469@ev1.net> <20010617120609.5994fb08.steveo@eircom.net> <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <647.593T2849T13806202@nowhere.in.particular> <9ipbr1$8p$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <9irppq$a02$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <67v3lt486183rot19b2pbdj9nuluqg9bep@4ax.com> <9j1b53$8ip$10@bob.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hearsay.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: hearsay.demon.co.uk:194.222.24.177 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 995494628 nnrp-07:3308 NO-IDENT hearsay.demon.co.uk:194.222.24.177 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net Lines: 18 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!skynet.be!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!hearsay.demon.co.uk!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85540 In article <9j1b53$8ip$10@bob.news.rcn.net>, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >Ah, you youngsters. > > Thanks. I needed that. I'm hip-deep in a newsgroup where > I'm feeling really, really old. But those "kids" have > inadvertently whacked me across the head. I've some real > meat to chew for while. Everyone needs a JRST once in a while. Simon. -- http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk | I have a hunch that [] the unknown sequences No junk email please. | of DNA [will decode into] copyright notices | and patent protections. -- Donald E. Knuth Mac OS X. Because making Unix user-friendly is easier than debugging Windows. ###### From: Jim Large Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:04:08 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3B57ADB8.8945E8E7@foo.boo> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9ihcaf$loo$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <9j312m$liq$1@news.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 21 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85796 Howard Siegel wrote: > [...] > First paying programming job was in '80 at CMU, post-processing data > from the FAA Rehost Validation Suite that ran on C.mmp (or was it > CM*) just before they pulled the plug on the machine. I never used either one of those machines, but I'm guessing that you're talking about C.mmp (or "see-dot" for short.) That was the one that used to sit behind the glass wall opposite the elevators on the third floor. I think it's a contender for the most impressive display of Blinkenlights on any computer system. CM* was just a row of featureless cabinets with maybe a power light somewhere to let you know it was on. I think it continued in use well into the mid 80's. Like I said though, I wouldn't know for sure. I was just an undergrad peon at the time, banging out LISP code on CMU-C. -- Jim L. ###### From: Howard Siegel Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: YKYBHTLW.... Date: 22 Jul 2001 03:57:29 GMT Organization: Gallifrey Beach Club Lines: 28 Message-ID: <9jdiv9$2uq$1@news.panix.com> References: <9j312m$liq$1@news.panix.com> <3B57ADB8.8945E8E7@foo.boo> Reply-To: not.interested@nospam.invalid NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 995774249 3034 166.84.0.228 (22 Jul 2001 03:57:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Jul 2001 03:57:29 GMT X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test74 (May 26, 2000) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!netnews.com!nntp.abs.net!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:85590 jim.large@foo.boo writes: > Howard Siegel wrote: > > [...] > > First paying programming job was in '80 at CMU, post-processing data > > from the FAA Rehost Validation Suite that ran on C.mmp (or was it > > CM*) just before they pulled the plug on the machine. > > I never used either one of those machines, but I'm guessing that you're > talking about C.mmp (or "see-dot" for short.) That was the one that > used to sit behind the glass wall opposite the elevators on the third > floor. I think it's a contender for the most impressive display of > Blinkenlights on any computer system. > > CM* was just a row of featureless cabinets with maybe a power light > somewhere to let you know it was on. I think it continued in use well > into the mid 80's. If CM* was still in use in to the mid 80's, then I must have been using C.mmp, since that one was shut down at the end of the Fall '80 semester. The FAA Rehost V&V was the last project that used it. In fact, the machine was scheduled to be decommissioned the previous year, but the FAA project paid CMU to keep it going for them. - howard -- Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! <*> hsiegel<->at<->pobox<->dot<->com