Message-ID: <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net> From: Ken McMonigal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: mouse ring in Byte; need new equivalent product; warning - long post Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 194 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:52:40 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.242.127.187 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net X-Trace: news.abs.net 981870575 208.242.127.187 (Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:49:35 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:49:35 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!grolier!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!news.abs.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:75318 I'm getting "mouse-elbow" on my right arm & am not really ambidexterous, so I remembered the product below in Byte(?) maybe 10 years ago. I talked to someone today & they thought they saw something like it in Compusa. My call got nothing. My web-searching was frustrating. Any help would be appreciated. What I need is essentially a mouse that can minimize elbow movement, but I would like one of those index-finger ring mice. The website suggested Free-D, but I couldn't find anything. As I write this, I'm thinking I could e-mail this website for specifics. But any help/suggestions would be appreciated. If anyone has one, i would consider buying it from them. (Ok, I'll do an e-Bay search now) TIA, Ken > > (from an A.D.A.-related website - http://www.worklink.net/ringmouse.html) > > RingMouse™ > > The RingMouse is out of stock. Please see Free-D, which is a similar technology. > > > This picture is almost full size! > Works on your finger, not on your desktop > > Wireless: > Utilizes advanced ultrasonic and infrared technology that is transmitted by the > RingMouse and received by the three triangulated ultrasonic receivers, and the > one infrared receiver mounted on this frame that sits on your monitor, > tabletop, or on your lap: > > > > Light weight: > Only 1/2 oz.! > > Point 'N' Click: > As your finger moves, so does the cursor > Simply click either button to execute a command > > Dual Mouse Operation: > RingMouse operates simultaneously with standard mouse > > Excellent for Office Use! > > Increases Productivity: > Most efficient way to execute mouse commands > Hands and eyes never have to leave the keyboard or screen > > Ergonomically Correct: > Minimizes Repetitive Strain Injury (RSI) > and Carpal Tunnel Syndrome > Works equally well on right or left hand > > Skip "n"Stick Free: > No cleaning required > Oil from hands or sticky desk surfaces will not affect performance > > A Must for PC Games! > > Joystick Emulator: > For DOOM and other DOS-based games > Improves and enhances 3-D motion capabilities > > Dark Forces and Descent: > Special interfaces to improve game play and enhance their 3-D features > > 3-D Capability: > A superior game control device > Reacts naturally to hand position > Reacts naturally to speed movements > Gives complete 3-D control > RINGS: a 3-D hoop-toss game included free > > Now you can go around those trees or > down that dirt road and sneak up behind > your opponents! Works well in even the > most challenging 3-D games. You'll have > fun zooming around, because RingMouse > uses the X, Y, and Z planes unlike > traditional desktop mice that are limited to > X and Y only. All this with no wires and no > need for a desktop surface. > > For all PC Compatibles: > Windows 95 / 98 > Windows 3.x > DOS compatible > Simple installation through COM port! > One year warranty > Battery lasts one year and is replaceable > > RingMouses's Five E's of Excellence > > Ergonomically Correct: > The natural comfortable motions used in operating the RingMouse help > minimize strain on neck, shoulder, hand and wrist muscles, thereby alleviating > the possibility of Repetitive Strain Injury (RSI) and Carpal Tunnel Syndrome > (CTS), normally associated with desktop mouse devices. Works equally well > on right or left hand. It's wireless and weighs less than 1/2 oz. > Energy and Environmentally Sound: > No external power source required. Draws very low power (10mA) from > serial port. The ring utilizes a long-life watch battery, that lasts over one year. > Unique power conservation features, including automatic sleep mode, and use > of no-carbon batteries to protect our environment. > Efficiently Exact: > Instantaneous response to positioning arrow/game object and execute > commands. With RingMouse on your finger, the arrow/game object moves > up, down, in, and out across the screen as it follows exactly your finger > motions through thin air. > > To execute command while arrow is positioned, simply depress one of the > two command buttons the way you would with any mouse. Simple and easy > to use. > > No lost time or extra head motion as with any other mouse. You never have > to remove your eyes from the screen or your hands from the keyboard to > locate mouse or execute commands. It's on your finger! Point 'N' Click. > > No mechanical parts to wear out. Eliminates skidding, grease and liquid spill > problems! > > Entertainingly Sophisticated: > RingMouse, a superior advanced 3-D game input device, allows full use of > hands for SPATIAL games. With 3-D compatible software, you can move or > locate arrow/game object up, down, across, and in and out, as well as behind > objects. Being wireless and having full 3 feet tracking area gives you ultimate > flexibility and freedom of hand, arm, shoulder, head and body movements. > > Specifications: > > Resolution: > 100 DPI > Tracking speed: > up to 30 inches per second > Tracking area: > up to 3 feet > Sample rate: > up to 50 updates per second > I/O level: > RS-232C > Baud rate: > 1200-9600 baud > Connector: > DB9 > Power requirements: > no external power required > Power: > 10mA > Operating temperature: > 0 degrees to 55 degrees Celsius > Ultrasonic broadcast: > 180 degrees > Infrared broadcast: > 160 degrees > Mechanical parts: > none > Buttons: > MTBF 1 million activations > Battery: > model #CR1620 > Battery life: > one year, with normal use > Sleep mode: > after one minute of non-use > FCC approval: > fully approved > > > System Requirements: > > IBM-PC Compatible 386 or higher > Free serial port > VGA Display Adapter > 1MB RAM > 3.5" floppy drive (to install drivers and free game) > MS-DOS 3.3 or higher > > RingMouse INCLUDES: > > Receiver frame > RingMouse with battery > 3.5" installation disk and tutorial > > Price: > $99 ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: mouse ring in Byte; need new equivalent product; warning - long post Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 01:48:20 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.f7.0a.1e X-Server-Date: 11 Feb 2001 06:48:22 GMT User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0 (PPC) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!news.mindspring.net!hshubs Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:75356 In article <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net>, Ken McMonigal wrote: >I'm getting "mouse-elbow" on my right arm & am not really ambidexterous, >so I remembered the product below in Byte(?) maybe 10 years ago. >I talked to someone today & they thought they saw something like it in >Compusa. >My call got nothing. My web-searching was frustrating. >Any help would be appreciated. Why not just get a trackball? They're easy to find and they come in various configurations. -- Howard S Shubs "Run in circles, scream and shout!" "I hope you have good backups!" ###### Message-ID: <3A86749D.604D5F91@mail.bcpl.net> From: Ken McMonigal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: mouse ring in Byte; need new equivalent product; warning - long post References: <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 51 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:16:45 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.19.142.55 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net X-Trace: news.abs.net 981890019 207.19.142.55 (Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:13:39 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:13:39 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!news.abs.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:75313 Howard S Shubs wrote: > > In article <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net>, Ken McMonigal > wrote: > > >I'm getting "mouse-elbow" on my right arm & am not really ambidexterous, > >so I remembered the product below in Byte(?) maybe 10 years ago. > >I talked to someone today & they thought they saw something like it in > >Compusa. > >My call got nothing. My web-searching was frustrating. > >Any help would be appreciated. > > Why not just get a trackball? They're easy to find and they come in various > configurations. > -- > Howard S Shubs > "Run in circles, scream and shout!" "I hope you have good backups!" Thanks for your reply & suggestion. I may have some hand/eye coordination problem with trackballs. ---------------- warning - I complain a little now - so bail out if you wish----------------------- Ok, here goes - when I go to the library, they have those aqua track balls with a cream base, IIRC, which I'm sure some people could identify the manufacturer. I have some trouble with them. I don't feel that I'm in solid control like on a mouse. I feel like I'm under/overshooting a lot. Also, on a laptop, I'm not really good with the touchpad. Perhaps there are just sensitivity settings that needed to be adjusted just like for a mouse. Right now, I'm trying to realize what parts of my arm are having trouble. It might be the elbow, then the wrist. ---------------- end of complaining --------------------------------------------- Come on, this mouse ring is cute & fun. I hope you clicked on the link & saw the picture. 3-D games & virtual reality are coming. I want to be ready. (I think there is a lasee option - just kidding ; ###### Message-ID: <3A86C4BF.BC136655@sprintmail.com> From: John Ferrell Reply-To: johnferrell@sprintmail.com Organization: Dixie Competition Products X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: mouse ring in Byte; need new equivalent product; warning - long post References: <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net> <3A86749D.604D5F91@mail.bcpl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 70 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:58:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.133.65.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 981910733 206.133.65.82 (Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:58:53 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:58:53 PST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:75324 I have been really happy with the Logitec Trackball. I bought the expensive one, $79.95. It takes less room on the desk, is easier to be precise, easy to clean, setup is ever present on the task bar, etc... The little track balls really don't feel precise to me. Ken McMonigal wrote: > Howard S Shubs wrote: > > > > In article <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net>, Ken McMonigal > > wrote: > > > > >I'm getting "mouse-elbow" on my right arm & am not really ambidexterous, > > >so I remembered the product below in Byte(?) maybe 10 years ago. > > >I talked to someone today & they thought they saw something like it in > > >Compusa. > > >My call got nothing. My web-searching was frustrating. > > >Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Why not just get a trackball? They're easy to find and they come in various > > configurations. > > -- > > Howard S Shubs > > "Run in circles, scream and shout!" "I hope you have good backups!" > > Thanks for your reply & suggestion. > > I may have some hand/eye coordination problem with trackballs. > > ---------------- warning - I complain a little now - so bail out if you > wish----------------------- > > Ok, here goes - when I go to the library, they have those aqua track > balls with > a cream base, IIRC, which I'm sure some people could identify the > manufacturer. > > I have some trouble with them. I don't feel that I'm in solid control > like on a mouse. I feel like I'm under/overshooting a lot. > > Also, on a laptop, I'm not really good with the touchpad. Perhaps there > are just > sensitivity settings that needed to be adjusted just like for a mouse. > > Right now, I'm trying to realize what parts of my arm are having > trouble. > > It might be the elbow, then the wrist. > > ---------------- end of complaining > --------------------------------------------- > > Come on, this mouse ring is cute & fun. I hope you clicked on the link & > saw the picture. > > 3-D games & virtual reality are coming. I want to be ready. > > (I think there is a lasee option - just kidding ; -- John Ferrell in Julian NC, de W8CCW Dixie Competition Products 6241 Phillippi Rd Julian NC 27283 Phone: (336)685-9606 Fax: (336)685-9771 NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 "My Competition is Not My Enemy" ###### Message-ID: <3A86D968.2D57EB71@jps.net> From: Larry Anderson Reply-To: foxnhare@jps.net Organization: http://www.jps.net/foxnhare/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: mouse ring in Byte; need new equivalent product; warning - long post References: <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 57 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:27:00 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.224.154.26 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp3.onemain.com 981915846 216.224.154.26 (Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:24:06 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:24:06 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp3.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:75353 I'm not a fan of trackballs - but there are many other (and possibly cheaper alternatives), Such as you could set your mouse sensitivity higher so it moxes farther with less movement then get one of those wrist-rest mouse pads... That should reduce elbow work a bit... There are also trackpads and others... this site looks promising for devices: http://www.utoronto.ca/atrc/reference/tech/altmouse.html Another: http://www.ergosci.com/keyboards.html the best Site I found so far: http://janweb.icdi.wvu.edu/media/altinput.html It points to a site said to offer the RingMouse http://www.infogrip.com/ but I could not find the RingMouse there... I know this thing is pretty good, it has the precision without the elbow movement: http://www.micropad.com/index_high.htm Of course doing a Yahoo search for "RingMouse" finds it right away... :/ http://www.worklink.net/products/ringmouse.html Ken McMonigal wrote: > > I'm getting "mouse-elbow" on my right arm & am not really ambidexterous, > so I remembered the product below in Byte(?) maybe 10 years ago. > I talked to someone today & they thought they saw something like it in > Compusa. > My call got nothing. My web-searching was frustrating. > Any help would be appreciated. > > What I need is essentially a mouse that can minimize elbow movement, > but I would like one of those index-finger ring mice. > > The website suggested Free-D, but I couldn't find anything. As I write > this, I'm thinking I could e-mail this website for specifics. But any > help/suggestions > would be appreciated. > > If anyone has one, i would consider buying it from them. > (Ok, I'll do an e-Bay search now) > -- 01000011 01001111 01001101 01001101 01001111 01000100 01001111 01010010 01000101 Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (209) 754-1363 300-14.4k bps Classic Commodore pages at: http://www.jps.net/foxnhare/commodore.html 01000011 01001111 01001101 01010000 01010101 01010100 01000101 01010010 01010011 ###### From: greenaum@BOLLOCKSyahoo.co.uk Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: mouse ring in Byte; need new equivalent product; warning - long post Organization: Rossum's Universal Robots Reply-To: greenaum@BOLLOCKSyahoo.co.uk Message-ID: <3a8ad9c1.15051083@news.cableinet.co.uk> References: <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net> <3A86749D.604D5F91@mail.bcpl.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 10 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:28:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.31.26.28 X-Complaints-To: abuse@blueyonder.co.uk X-Trace: news3.cableinet.net 981916099 62.31.26.28 (Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:28:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:28:19 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newshunter!cosy.sbg.ac.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.kpnqwest.at!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!npeer.kpnqwest.net!news.tele.dk!194.42.224.136!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!news-hub.cableinet.net!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news3.cableinet.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:75333 You'll get used to a trackball, it's really a relief, I wouldn't go back to a mouse now. The main advantage is, you don't have to keep it gripped tight where it is, a trackball won't drift off if you let go of it, so it's much less strain on your arm muscles and tendons. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ if love is a drug, then, ideally, it's a healing, healthful drug... it's kind of like prozac is supposed to work (without the sexual side effects and long-term damage to the brain and psyche) ###### From: Howard S Shubs Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: mouse ring in Byte; need new equivalent product; warning - long post Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:13:17 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <3A8628A8.A68C1FFB@mail.bcpl.net> <3A86749D.604D5F91@mail.bcpl.net> <3A86C4BF.BC136655@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.f7.0a.2a X-Server-Date: 11 Feb 2001 20:10:59 GMT User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0 (PPC) X-Face: "S"r{U%bs].&Ud}Pc~~~0a]M:t5l>>EN\1Faw10M9NK1Xq59wo7-"s0S+[{etQorO /Nf-Ci"i9v'MT!R8)J]N[4|2&x1r^Iq&{SB"6dknr0=+6UFb.>+{zMn_1=rw&/V+"d@* ZS5\LoW_ Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!news.algonet.se!algonet!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!hshubs Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:75352 In article <3A86C4BF.BC136655@sprintmail.com>, johnferrell@sprintmail.com wrote: >I have been really happy with the Logitec Trackball. I bought the expensive >one, >$79.95. It takes less room on the desk, is easier to be precise, easy to >clean, >setup is ever present on the task bar, etc... And I've been using the Kensington Turbo Mouse since around 1989. It uses a pool-ball sized ball, and I think it's wonderful. -- Howard S Shubs "Run in circles, scream and shout!" "I hope you have good backups!"