From: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Florida is in a 30 year flashback! Date: 23 Nov 2000 18:50:31 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 8 Message-ID: <8vjotn$16j$1@freenet9.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet10 X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 975005431 1235 134.117.136.30 (23 Nov 2000 18:50:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Nov 2000 18:50:31 GMT X-Given-Sender: ab528@freenet10.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!feeder.qis.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!nntp.gblx.net!xcski.com!freenet-news!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab528 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:69425 In today's Ottawa Citizen, there were pictures of Floridian vote counters holding punched cards up to the light! I remember doing that back when I knew the entire EBCDIC punch code. Another trick in those days: to find the changes made in a source program, print out the old and new versions, then hold (or tape) them to a window and scan for differences. Of course, this method only worked for scant hours at this time of year at my latitude. ###### From: "Charlie Gibbs" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Florida is in a 30 year flashback! Date: 23 Nov 00 14:52:48 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 18 Message-ID: <706.362T2415T8926004@sky.bus.com> References: <8vjotn$16j$1@freenet9.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-791.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: THOR 2.5a (Amiga;TCP/IP) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!schlund.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!165.113.238.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:69370 In article <8vjotn$16j$1@freenet9.carleton.ca> ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) writes: > In today's Ottawa Citizen, there were pictures of Floridian vote > counters holding punched cards up to the light! I remember doing > that back when I knew the entire EBCDIC punch code. > > Another trick in those days: to find the changes made in a source > program, print out the old and new versions, then hold (or tape) > them to a window and scan for differences. Of course, this method > only worked for scant hours at this time of year at my latitude. That's what light tables are for. :-) -- cgibbs@sky.bus.com (Charlie Gibbs) Remove the first period after the "at" sign to reply. ###### Sender: lynn@LYNNPC Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Florida is in a 30 year flashback! References: <8vjotn$16j$1@freenet9.carleton.ca> Reply-To: Anne & Lynn Wheeler From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler Message-ID: Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:36:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.174.227.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 975008166 199.174.227.78 (Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:36:06 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:36:06 PST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!feeder.qis.net!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:69397 ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) writes: > In today's Ottawa Citizen, there were pictures of Floridian vote > counters holding punched cards up to the light! I remember doing > that back when I knew the entire EBCDIC punch code. > > Another trick in those days: to find the changes made in a source > program, print out the old and new versions, then hold (or tape) > them to a window and scan for differences. Of course, this method > only worked for scant hours at this time of year at my latitude. the other trick was reading the holes in a "binary" program executable card deck ... finding the correct card containing executable needing changing and duping the card ... except for the code to be changed (on an 026 or 029) and "multi-punching" the binary change into the new/replacement card (34 year flashback). -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | lynn@garlic.com - http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ ###### From: jsavard@fNrOeSePnAeMt.edmonton.ab.ca (John Savard) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Florida is in a 30 year flashback! Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:22:35 GMT Organization: PowerSurfr - High Speed Internet Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3a1f2ddd.1446524@news.powersurfr.com> References: <8vjotn$16j$1@freenet9.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: c51082-001.powersurfr.com X-Trace: dagger.ab.videon.ca 975122596 17593 24.108.206.34 (25 Nov 2000 03:23:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@powersurfr.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Nov 2000 03:23:16 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ab.videon.ca!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:69513 On 23 Nov 2000 18:50:31 GMT, ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) wrote, in part: > In today's Ottawa Citizen, there were pictures of Floridian vote > counters holding punched cards up to the light! I remember doing > that back when I knew the entire EBCDIC punch code. I can reconstruct vvvv from memory, 12 &x x 11 - x x 0 0 x x 1 1AJ/ 2 2BKS :¢! 3 3CLT #.$, 4 4DMU @<*% 5 5ENV '()_ 6 6FOW =+;> 7 7GPX "|¬? 8 8HQY xxxx 9 9IRZ but ^^^^ I had to look up. (Key to the diagram: Every letter, digit, or punctuation mark, involves a punch in the row it is located in. It may also involve additional punches, indicated by the letter x in the same column with it.) John Savard http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/crypto.htm ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <8vjotn$16j$1@freenet9.carleton.ca> From: jata@aepiax.net (Julian Thomas) Subject: Re: Florida is in a 30 year flashback! Message-ID: <3a20521d$3$wg$mr2ice@news.epix.net> X-Newsreader: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Lines: 22 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 23:58:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.224.125.80 X-Complaints-To: abuse@epix.net X-Trace: news1.epix.net 975196703 199.224.125.80 (Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:58:23 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:58:23 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!209.249.123.233.MISMATCH!xfer10.netnews.com!netnews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news2.epix.net!news1.epix.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:69563 In , on 11/23/00 at 07:36 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >the other trick was reading the holes in a "binary" program executable >card deck ... finding the correct card containing executable needing >changing and duping the card ... except for the code to be changed (on an >026 or 029) and "multi-punching" the binary change into the >new/replacement card (34 year flashback). Piece of cake (relatively speaking), if it was column binary. -- Julian Thomas: jt . epix @ net http://home.epix.net/~jt remove letter a for email (or switch . and @) In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue.