From: a.krennmair@aon.at (Andreas Krennmair) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Reply-To: a.krennmair@aon.at X-Signature-Color: green Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Date: 19 Jun 2000 20:04:28 GMT Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.183.67.139 X-Trace: newsreader01.vienna.highway.telekom.at 961445068 23522 root@212.183.67.139 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsrouter.chello.at!newsmaster-01.atnet.at!atnet.at!newsfeed03.univie.ac.at!newsfeed01.highway.telekom.at!newsreader01.vienna.highway.telekom.at!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58150 Hello! I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco (actually tecoc) port from a undetermined Unix mix (Ultrix,SunOS,AIX,whatever) to Linux. I finally managed to compile it, but as I have absolutely no experience with teco I need somebody to check whether it's really a working teco version. If he/she doesn't have an installed Linux at home or at work, I can provide a guest telnet account at my home computer. If anybody's interested in, please send me an email. best regards, Andreas Krennmair -- Unix IS user-friendly. It's just very selective about who its friends are. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: Tue, 20 Jun 00 08:39:56 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <8inkoh$rke$7@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: f9oqt9dhdwHgaDK1/wDa4kIZC3+J3PiMfAwmuOD0iRw= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jun 2000 11:32:33 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-255-163 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58152 In article <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>, "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" wrote: >Andreas Krennmair wrote: > >> I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco (actually > > Aaah, the nostalgia. I once wrote a flight simulator in teco for VMS. >It didn't work very well. > Not surprising. VMS always did have its problems. [emoticon showing its bias] /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:16:02 +0100 Message-ID: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk:158.152.132.30 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 961453492 nnrp-02:2261 NO-IDENT tnglwood.demon.co.uk:158.152.132.30 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 12 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!tnglwood.demon.co.uk!falstaff.tanglewood!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58171 Andreas Krennmair wrote: > I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco (actually Aaah, the nostalgia. I once wrote a flight simulator in teco for VMS. It didn't work very well. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover, I live near 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "It burned me from within. It quickened; I was with book as a woman is with child." CS Lewis - Till we have faces, Ch 21. ###### From: "S.C.Sprong" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: 19 Jun 2000 22:37:52 GMT Lines: 24 Message-ID: <8im7c0$58hp1$1@fu-berlin.de> References: Reply-To: s.c.sprong@student.utwente.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: wit401307.student.utwente.nl (130.89.236.147) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 961454272 5523233 130.89.236.147 (16 [21098]) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!wit401307.student.utwente.NL!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58122 Andreas Krennmair wrote: >I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco >(actually tecoc) port from a undetermined Unix mix [...] to Linux. >I finally managed to compile it, but as I have absolutely no >experience with teco I need somebody to check whether it's really a >working teco version. To begin, it's your port and I don't want to spoil your fun. However, there are easier portable Teco versions, notably Matt Fichtenbaum's, patched by Sander van Malsen. You can get it from Eric S. Raymond's Retrocomputing Museum at: It compiles rather cleanly out of the box. There's also Mark Henderson's massive Teco archive at: That archive contains many versions as well as a lot of documentation, so you can learn to use Teco yourself. scsprong ###### From: Jim Thomas Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: 19 Jun 2000 15:00:15 -1000 Organization: Canada France Hawai`i Telescope Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <8im7c0$58hp1$1@fu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu X-Trace: news.hawaii.edu 961462816 23465 128.171.80.135 (20 Jun 2000 01:00:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@hawaii.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jun 2000 01:00:16 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!HSNX.atgi.net!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.hawaii.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58181 >>>>> "scsprong" == S C Sprong writes: scsprong> There's also Mark Henderson's massive Teco archive at: scsprong> scsprong> That archive contains many versions as well as a lot of scsprong> documentation, so you can learn to use Teco yourself. ? This doesn't seem to exist? ###### From: Alistair@caribsurf.com (Alistair Gale) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: 20 Jun 2000 01:25:10 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <8imb3o$69q$1@news.igs.net> Reply-To: alistair@caribsurf.com NNTP-Posting-Host: p-087.newsdawg.com User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.7 (UNIX) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeedZ.netscum.dQ!netscum.int!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!Alistair Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58131 On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:37:01 -0400, donald tees wrote: >Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote in message ><394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... >>Andreas Krennmair wrote: >> >>> I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco >(actually >> >> Aaah, the nostalgia. I once wrote a flight simulator in teco for VMS. >>It didn't work very well. >> > >My favourite was a Teco macro that completely reversed a file on a character >by character basis. (Tested, of course, by running it twice and doing a file >compare). Not quite as insane as a primitive assembler I once saw written >in Teco. Can you imagine trying to make a change a year or two later? The >mind boggles. > So I take it Teco is/was even worse than Perl? -- alistair The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face. -- Jack Handey ###### From: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: 20 Jun 2000 01:53:22 GMT Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 9 Message-ID: <8imiqi$sb5$1@freenet9.carleton.ca> References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: ab528@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet10 X-Trace: freenet9.carleton.ca 961466002 29029 134.117.136.30 (20 Jun 2000 01:53:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jun 2000 01:53:22 GMT X-Given-Sender: ab528@freenet10.carleton.ca (Heinz W. Wiggeshoff) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!xcski.com!freenet-news!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab528 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58169 "Bob Billing " (unclebob@tnglwood.demon.co.uk) writes: > Andreas Krennmair wrote: > >> I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco (actually > > Aaah, the nostalgia. I once wrote a flight simulator in teco for VMS. > It didn't work very well. It crashed, did it? (FS or teco) ###### From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.lang.teco Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:15:40 -0600 Organization: Systematic Software Reply-To: Brian.dot.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: References: <8im7c0$58hp1$1@fu-berlin.de> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.148.142.25 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.148.142.25 X-Trace: 20 Jun 2000 01:15:41 -0700, 207.148.142.25 Lines: 35 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.50.1.43 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.man.poznan.pl!news.task.gda.pl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!nntp.cadvision.com!news.cadvision.com!207.148.142.25 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58183 On 19 Jun 2000 22:37:52 GMT, "S.C.Sprong" wrote: >Andreas Krennmair wrote: >>I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco >>(actually tecoc) port from a undetermined Unix mix [...] to Linux. >>I finally managed to compile it, but as I have absolutely no >>experience with teco I need somebody to check whether it's really a >>working teco version. > >To begin, it's your port and I don't want to spoil your fun. However, >there are easier portable Teco versions, notably Matt Fichtenbaum's, >patched by Sander van Malsen. You can get it from Eric S. Raymond's >Retrocomputing Museum at: > > > >It compiles rather cleanly out of the box. > >There's also Mark Henderson's massive Teco archive at: > > > >That archive contains many versions as well as a lot of documentation, >so you can learn to use Teco yourself. > >scsprong posting in alt.lang.teco [xposted there] might get some more targeted responses. Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian_Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) use address above to reply ###### From: "S.C.Sprong" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: 20 Jun 2000 08:23:50 GMT Lines: 11 Message-ID: <8in9mm$56ecp$1@fu-berlin.de> References: <8im7c0$58hp1$1@fu-berlin.de> Reply-To: s.c.sprong@student.utwente.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: wit401307.student.utwente.nl (130.89.236.147) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 961489430 5454233 130.89.236.147 (16 [21098]) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!wit401307.student.utwente.NL!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58128 Jim Thomas wrote: >>>>>> "scsprong" == S C Sprong writes: > scsprong> There's also Mark Henderson's massive Teco archive at: > scsprong> >? This doesn't seem to exist? Argh! That must be: scsprong ###### Message-ID: <394F4714.F18C9F43@boutel.co.nz> From: Brian Boutel Organization: X X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <8imb3o$69q$1@news.igs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cache-Post-Path: shelley.paradise.net.nz!unknown@boutel.co.nz X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b2 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Lines: 9 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:27:32 +1200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.96.152.26 X-Complaints-To: newsadmin@xtra.co.nz X-Trace: news.xtra.co.nz 961496852 203.96.152.26 (Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:27:32 NZST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:27:32 NZST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!lsanca1-snf1!news.gtei.net!news.netgate.net.nz!news.xtra.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58125 Alistair Gale wrote: > > So I take it Teco is/was even worse than Perl? > With Teco, if you write out your name, and run it, it may do something useful. The same probably cannot be said for Perl. --brian ###### From: "donald tees" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:37:01 -0400 Organization: IGS - Information Gateway Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: <8imb3o$69q$1@news.igs.net> References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ttya11.kw.igs.net X-Trace: news.igs.net 961458104 6458 216.58.99.49 (19 Jun 2000 23:41:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@igs.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jun 2000 23:41:44 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.uunet.ca!nntp.igs.net!news.igs.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58113 Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote in message <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... >Andreas Krennmair wrote: > >> I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco (actually > > Aaah, the nostalgia. I once wrote a flight simulator in teco for VMS. >It didn't work very well. > My favourite was a Teco macro that completely reversed a file on a character by character basis. (Tested, of course, by running it twice and doing a file compare). Not quite as insane as a primitive assembler I once saw written in Teco. Can you imagine trying to make a change a year or two later? The mind boggles. ###### From: "donald tees" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:38:20 -0400 Organization: IGS - Information Gateway Services Lines: 30 Message-ID: <8imlnu$ckp$1@news.igs.net> References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <8imb3o$69q$1@news.igs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ttyc05.kw.igs.net X-Trace: news.igs.net 961468990 12953 216.58.99.133 (20 Jun 2000 02:43:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@igs.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jun 2000 02:43:10 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!prairie.attcanada.net!newsfeed.attcanada.net!142.77.1.188!news.uunet.ca!nntp.igs.net!news.igs.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58127 Alistair Gale wrote in message ... >On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:37:01 -0400, donald tees wrote: >>Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote in message >><394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk>... >>>Andreas Krennmair wrote: >>> >>>> I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco >>(actually >>> >>> Aaah, the nostalgia. I once wrote a flight simulator in teco for VMS. >>>It didn't work very well. >>> >> >>My favourite was a Teco macro that completely reversed a file on a character >>by character basis. (Tested, of course, by running it twice and doing a file >>compare). Not quite as insane as a primitive assembler I once saw written >>in Teco. Can you imagine trying to make a change a year or two later? The >>mind boggles. >> >So I take it Teco is/was even worse than Perl? > >-- Definitely a write once language. ###### Sender: eric@ruckus.brouhaha.com From: Eric Smith Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <8imb3o$69q$1@news.igs.net> X-Disclaimer: Everything I write is false. Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. Date: 20 Jun 2000 11:22:32 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ruckus.brouhaha.com X-Trace: 20 Jun 2000 11:25:56 -0700, ruckus.brouhaha.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.spies.com!ruckus.brouhaha.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58244 "donald tees" writes: > My favourite was a Teco macro that completely reversed a file on a character > by character basis. (Tested, of course, by running it twice and doing a file > compare). Not an adequate test. There are a lot of other transformations the macro could do that would pass this test, including, obviously, the identity transform. ###### From: Lord Xarph and his Empty Bank Account Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:24:47 -0700 Organization: The Weirdness Factory Lines: 15 Message-ID: <394FEF2F.8B109B19@blueneptune.com> References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <8imb3o$69q$1@news.igs.net> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58216 donald tees wrote: > My favourite was a Teco macro that completely reversed a file on a character > by character basis. (Tested, of course, by running it twice and doing a file > compare). ...wouldn't it pass the test if the macro did nothing? =) -Lx? -- Lord Xarph and his Empty Bank Account Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get me. xarph@xarph.net http://www.xarph.net/ ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.lang.teco Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> From: Ric Werme X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #119 Lines: 69 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:32:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.12.15 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 961547562 24.91.12.15 (Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:32:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:32:42 EDT Organization: Road Runner Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!iol.ie!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws05.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.70!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58249 "Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob)" writes: >Andreas Krennmair wrote: >> I need one or two experienced teco users who want to test my teco (actually > Aaah, the nostalgia. I once wrote a flight simulator in teco for VMS. >It didn't work very well. I guess it's time for an old story that predates the WWW, but is preserved at http://www.winternet.com/~radams/warstories/warstory6.html. I think this I originally posted this to a.f.c. Apologies if this is a repost. :-) Printer music werme@Alliant.COM, 8 Feb 89 At Carnegie-Mellon, the standard carriage tape had an empty channel. An easy way to get on the bad side of the operators was to use the right character as a FORTRAN print control character. (The tape was designed so that the printer implemented nearly all of the FORTRAN carriage control features.) It was never a problem until someone wrote a SNOBOL program and forgot to print a space at the beginning of each line. The operator wasn't near the machine at the time and 1403 fed the paper faster than it could stack! ...I hereby claim the best sound of any printer music. At Sanders Technology, a defunct company that pioneered the letter quality dot matrix printer, I decided to come up with some real music. After a disappointing start, I designed some fonts that were variable numbers of vertical bars in 1/2 inch wide characters. The printer's horizontal resolution was 0.001", better than laser printers, but not good enough for decent music. I had to compute line spacings in 0.0001" units and round to the nearest 0.001". About an octave and a half would fit in a 2Kb PROM (this was before 16K ram chips made down-loaded fonts practical). Next I arranged "A Bicycle Built for Two", since that was the first song a computer ever played (you've heard it in the movie 2001). It also was a hack on Daisywheel terminals, our main competition. It was impressive. And attracted a fair amount of attention at the trade shows. I later did three Christmas carols, and even a version of Le Marseilles (sp?) for a potential French customer. Since the only real language we had was Fortran, I wrote TECO programs to generate the font from a source file of frequency and character bindings, and another TECO program that read a simple music language and generated the lines of text needed to play the song. Not only could I set the meter, the program had to reverse the order of the characters for the right-left passes. I still have two of those printers. NH Mensa prints its newsletters on one. Unfortunately, I'm running out of ribbons and the pins are beginning to crack. Smart printer. Does its own justification, handles proportional fonts, mixed fonts, all sorts of stuff. Its control language is readable, inspired by runoff. Between the printer, a CP/M system and a screen editor (written as a macro for a TECO variant), who needs an IBM PC? -- Ric Werme | werme@nospam.mediaone.net http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme | ^^^^^^^ delete ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <8imb3o$69q$1@news.igs.net> From: Ric Werme X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #119 Lines: 23 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:37:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.12.15 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 961547831 24.91.12.15 (Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:37:11 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:37:11 EDT Organization: Road Runner Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws05.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.70!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58250 "donald tees" writes: >Bob Billing (AKA Uncle Bob) wrote in message >> Aaah, the nostalgia. I once wrote a flight simulator in teco for VMS. >>It didn't work very well. >My favourite was a Teco macro that completely reversed a file on a character >by character basis. (Tested, of course, by running it twice and doing a file >compare). Not quite as insane as a primitive assembler I once saw written >in Teco. Can you imagine trying to make a change a year or two later? The >mind boggles. One could write commented code. I ported a screen editor I wrote taking advantage of the screen update command for a RT-11 TECO to generate the escape sequences I needed for my Heathkit H89. Several years elapsed between the RT11 and H89 programs. I also had macros to convert Z80 assembler to 8080 assembler and back. -Ric Werme -- Ric Werme | werme@nospam.mediaone.net http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme | ^^^^^^^ delete ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.lang.teco Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux References: <8im7c0$58hp1$1@fu-berlin.de> Organization: squirrel.com - http://www.squirrel.com/ From: mch@squirrel.com (Mark Henderson) Lines: 19 Message-ID: <2BU35.1737$Qb1.149251@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:09:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.100.195.10 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 961549758 209.100.195.10 (Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:09:18 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:09:18 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.newsread.com!bad-news.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!POSTED.monger.newsread.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58240 In article , Brian Inglis wrote: >On 19 Jun 2000 22:37:52 GMT, "S.C.Sprong" > wrote: >>There's also Mark Henderson's massive Teco archive at: >> >> That URL should be ftp://ftp.mindlink.net/pub/teco/ Cheers, Mark -- Mark Henderson -- mch@squirrel.com, mch@world.std.com -- Til įrs ok frišar! unstrip for Solaris, MIND LINK crypto archive, TECO, computer security links, change-{sun,sgi}-hostid,Sun NVRAM/hostid FAQ - http://www.squirrel.com/ PGP/GnuPG keys available at http://www.squirrel.com/pgpkeys.asc ###### From: "donald tees" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: teco geeks wanted! needed to test a teco port to Linux Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:47:45 -0400 Organization: IGS - Information Gateway Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: <8ioi1s$e5a$1@news.igs.net> References: <394E9BA2.DAECA6BC@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> <8imb3o$69q$1@news.igs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ttyd13.kw.igs.net X-Trace: news.igs.net 961530748 14506 216.58.99.179 (20 Jun 2000 19:52:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@igs.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jun 2000 19:52:28 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.uunet.ca!nntp.igs.net!news.igs.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:58194 Of course. I did not say it was the *only* test. In fact, I hesitated before posting, and bet my co-worker that at least three pedants would point that out. Two to go. Eric Smith wrote in message ... >"donald tees" writes: >> My favourite was a Teco macro that completely reversed a file on a character >> by character basis. (Tested, of course, by running it twice and doing a file >> compare). > >Not an adequate test. There are a lot of other transformations the macro >could do that would pass this test, including, obviously, the identity >transform. > >