From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa nor Jeff) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Visual Assembler a big hit Date: 2 Apr 2000 04:49:55 GMT Organization: Net Access BBS Lines: 82 Message-ID: <8c6jhj$j3q@netaxs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.cpcn.com Originator: root@bbs.cpcn.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!netaxs.newsread.com!bbs.cpcn.com!root Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:53590 [ApF] Computer industry analysts remained shocked and surprised by the huge success of IBM's new Visual Assembler product. Sales are triple expectations, current inventory is completely sold out, with long back orders flowing in. Visual Assembler was developed as a side utility for a small group of specialized customers. Assembler language programming is the "Latin" of computer programming, used for highly specialized and intricate work. Uses include writing operating systems, and highly complex work such as airline reservations. Visual Assembler allows programmers the convenience of GUI development yet retains the incredible power of down-to-the-bit programming. The new product will run on most major computer platforms, and produce programs capable of running on different platforms. Previously, assembler language had to be developed on the machine it was intended for. The new products supports IBM's System/390 (with backward compatibility for S/370 and S/360), IBM's legacy 1401/1410 and 7090 systems, Intel's 8086, 8088, 286, 386, 486, and Pentium processors, Sun SPARC midrange systems, and IBM's AS/400. When equipped with a plotter output, the package will draw wiring diagrams for IBM's full line of unit record devices including its flagship 407 accounting machine. Customers buying the package admitted they've always dreamed of having the incredible processing power and control Assembler offers, but didn't have the skill level to use it--until now. Easy pop-up windows and explanations allow the programmer to select the best instruction and modifier operands for a task. A programmer familier with Intel internal architecture can write a program in that context and the package will translate to optimum assembler usage for any other desired machine. Previously, many programmers used "C" and Unix, originally developed by the Bell Telephone Company in the 1960s. But many programmers were secretly uncomfortable with that language's origins. Some resented using a language developed for use by "Ma Bell", popularized by Laugh-In's "Ernestine". Others resented using a language developed during the decadent hippie era 1960s and prefer the staid, tried and true "Eisenhower-era" Assembler styles. IBM's new package is seen by industry stock analysts as a direct blow to Microsoft's pride. Microsoft had been king of the "Visual" product with items such as Visual BASIC. Though company officials deny it, Microsoft's founder Bill Gates is said to be furious at IBM's incursion in his territory and vowing revenge through the offering of Microsoft versions of MVS, COBOL, CICS, TSO, and IMS for the mainframe. Analysts question whether this will be possible since no one at Microsoft has ever seen an IBM mainframe, let alone programmed one. Computer tinkerers have been fascinated by the product's more arcane features, such as generating IBM 407 wiring charts. IBM has received several orders for 407 accounting machine systems and associated support hardware. The directors of information systems of both Walmart and Sears, the nation's largest retailers, indicate plans to return to punched card processing of sales to gain greater efficiency and eliminate long lines when the scanners don't work. Visual Assembler has also bolstered sales of IBM's languishing children's product line, "Petey the Punch Card" stuffed animal toys. IBM had to dig up the sewing patterns for "Colleen the Collator", "Izzy the Interpreter", and "Sally the Sorter" and rush them into production. These toys were originally developed to teach kids about punched card processing, but fell into disfavor when kids found sex on the Internet. ###### From: dowe@localhost.localdomain (Dowe Keller) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Visual Assembler a big hit References: <8c6jhj$j3q@netaxs.com> Message-ID: X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.4.3 UNIX) Lines: 26 Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 06:19:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.2.107 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp3.onemain.com 954656359 209.165.2.107 (Sun, 02 Apr 2000 01:19:19 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 01:19:19 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!europa.netcrusader.net!63.208.208.143!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp3.onemain.com.POSTED!dowe Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:53591 On 2 Apr 2000 04:49:55 GMT, Lisa nor Jeff wrote: >[ApF] Computer industry analysts remained shocked >and surprised by the huge success of IBM's new >Visual Assembler product. Sales are triple expectations, >current inventory is completely sold out, with long >back orders flowing in. > > Visual Assembler was developed as a side utility >for a small group of specialized customers. Assembler >language programming is the "Latin" of computer >programming, used for highly specialized and intricate >work. Uses include writing operating systems, and >highly complex work such as airline reservations. >Visual Assembler allows programmers the convenience >of GUI development yet retains the incredible power It took me way too long to catch on to this AFJ. You probably are giving some marketeer at MacroSloth an idea or two. God save us all from the attack of the GUI-IDEs! dowe dowe onemain com --- The whole earth is in jail and we're plotting this incredible jailbreak. -- Wavy Gravy ###### From: bbreynolds@aol.comskipthis (Bruce B. Reynolds) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Visual Assembler a big hit Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 Apr 2000 18:03:05 GMT References: <8c6jhj$j3q@netaxs.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler Message-ID: <20000402140305.22798.00000328@nso-bd.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!howland.erols.net!portc.blue.aol.com.MISMATCH!portc01.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:53574 This appears to be an infringement on my ongoing development efforts for Visual EDL++!!! -- Bruce B. Reynolds, Independent/Legacy Systems Consultant: Trailing Edge Technologies, Glenside PA---Sweeping Up Behind Data Processing Dinosaurs ###### Message-ID: <38E79477.A4B9858E@home.com> From: Pete Lamasney X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Visual Assembler a big hit References: <8c6jhj$j3q@netaxs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 1 Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 18:42:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.172.250 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com 954700945 24.0.172.250 (Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:42:25 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:42:25 PDT Organization: @Home Network Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:53588 Just when I was preparing the Beta release of Visual INTERCAL too! ###### Message-ID: <38E8F14E.5DC78D62@aldon.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:30:22 -0700 From: Douglas Weber X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Visual Assembler a big hit References: <8c6jhj$j3q@netaxs.com> <20000402140305.22798.00000328@nso-bd.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: aldongw.aldon.com X-Trace: 3 Apr 2000 12:24:48 -0700, aldongw.aldon.com Lines: 13 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!europa.netcrusader.net!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!den-news-01.qwest.net!qwest!news01.m-l.net!aldongw.aldon.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:53593 But imagine the improvements that Visual JCL will bring to this world. Doug Weber "Bruce B. Reynolds" wrote: > This appears to be an infringement on my ongoing development efforts for > Visual EDL++!!! > -- > Bruce B. Reynolds, Independent/Legacy Systems Consultant: Trailing Edge > Technologies, Glenside PA---Sweeping Up Behind Data Processing Dinosaurs ###### From: jcmorris@jmorris-pc.MITRE.ORG (Joe Morris) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Visual Assembler a big hit Date: 4 Apr 2000 16:11:21 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation Lines: 9 Message-ID: <8cd479$hkq$1@top.mitre.org> References: <8c6jhj$j3q@netaxs.com> <20000402140305.22798.00000328@nso-bd.aol.com> <38E8F14E.5DC78D62@aldon.com> Reply-To: jcmorris@linus.mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Host: jmorris-pc.mitre.org X-Trace: top.mitre.org 954864681 18074 128.29.251.13 (4 Apr 2000 16:11:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Apr 2000 16:11:21 GMT X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.tufts.edu!blanket.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!jmorris-pc.MITRE.ORG!jcmorris Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:53612 Douglas Weber writes: >But imagine the improvements that Visual JCL will bring to this world. ...but we had drag-and-drop for JCL long ago: you *drag* your boxes of punched cards up to the I/O clerk's window; the clerk gives them to the computer operator, who *drops* the deck onto the floor. Joe Morris ###### From: nailed_barnacleSPAMFREE@hotmail.com (barnacle) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Visual Assembler a big hit Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:09:21 GMT Organization: [posted via Easynet Ltd] Lines: 22 Message-ID: <8cd7qa$tk5$3@quince.news.easynet.net> References: <8c6jhj$j3q@netaxs.com> <20000402140305.22798.00000328@nso-bd.aol.com> <38E8F14E.5DC78D62@aldon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nbarnes.easynet.co.uk X-Trace: quince.news.easynet.net 954868362 30341 194.154.98.206 (4 Apr 2000 17:12:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Apr 2000 17:12:42 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!easynet-uk!easynet.net!quince.news.easynet.net!egbert Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:53655 In article <38E8F14E.5DC78D62@aldon.com>, Douglas Weber wrote: >But imagine the improvements that Visual JCL will bring to this world. > >Doug Weber > > >"Bruce B. Reynolds" wrote: > >> This appears to be an infringement on my ongoing development efforts for >> Visual EDL++!!! >> -- >> Bruce B. Reynolds, Independent/Legacy Systems Consultant: Trailing Edge >> Technologies, Glenside PA---Sweeping Up Behind Data Processing Dinosaurs > Nah...gimme Visual JCB...just what you need to dig the hole and bury ms (That's going to go right past the non-UK readers...) -- barnacle http://www.nailed-barnacle.co.uk ###### From: christian@yokoda.com (chris davies) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Visual Assembler a big hit Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:45:54 +0100 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <8c6jhj$j3q@netaxs.com> <20000402140305.22798.00000328@nso-bd.aol.com> <38E8F14E.5DC78D62@aldon.com> <8cd7qa$tk5$3@quince.news.easynet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.tw2.com (62.232.8.252) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 954924369 6486697 62.232.8.252 (16 1870) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!mail.tw2.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:53685 In article <8cd7qa$tk5$3@quince.news.easynet.net>, nailed_barnacleSPAMFREE@hotmail.com (barnacle) wrote: > Nah...gimme Visual JCB...just what you need to dig the hole and bury ms > (That's going to go right past the non-UK readers...) > that reminds me of something my friend told me about his previous company when they placed a job ad for someone w/ JCL and Windows experience. they got a CV from someone w/ 10 years of building site experience including 4 working for a double glazing company... -- Chris Davies http://www.trash80.org.uk/