From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8,alt.sys.pdp10,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Hierarchical file systems (was: Filenames, shells, remote file access ...) Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:09:24 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Lines: 20 Sender: westin@DIESEL Message-ID: References: <38da49e6_2@news.wizvax.net> <8beb7i$707$1@citadel.in.taronga.com> <8bg02p$1b2k$1@citadel.in.taronga.com> <38DB95C6.C63A28D2@silcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: diesel.graphics.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.graphics.cornell.edu!news Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:52799 Lars Poulsen writes: > Who did have the first hierachical file system, by the way ? I would bet on MULTICS. At least it seems to be the first in the Boston lineage (CTSS, ITS, MULTICS, TOPS-10, Unix, ...) > What kind of filename syntax did it use ? I think it was down>down>file May be wrong about the leading "<"; my direct contact was with PRIMOS, which copied the scheme. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. ###### Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8,alt.sys.pdp10,alt.folklore.computers From: Christopher C Stacy Subject: Re: Hierarchical file systems (was: Filenames, shells, remote file access ...) Sender: news@world.std.com (Mr Usenet Himself) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:13:12 GMT References: <38da49e6_2@news.wizvax.net> <8beb7i$707$1@citadel.in.taronga.com> <8bg02p$1b2k$1@citadel.in.taronga.com> <38DB95C6.C63A28D2@silcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: world.std.com Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.5 Lines: 2 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed2.news.nl.uu.net!sun4nl!uunet!ams.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!world!news Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:52865 ITS did not have a hierarchical file system. It had one level of directories, with files underneath that. ###### Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:25:37 -0800 From: thvv@multicians.org (Tom Van Vleck) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8,alt.sys.pdp10,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Hierarchical file systems (was: Filenames, shells, remote file access ...) Message-ID: References: <38da49e6_2@news.wizvax.net> <8beb7i$707$1@citadel.in.taronga.com> <8bg02p$1b2k$1@citadel.in.taronga.com> <38DB95C6.C63A28D2@silcom.com> Organization: Multicians X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.1 X-url: http://www.multicians.org/ Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: thvv.vip.best.com X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 954012221 214 206.86.18.21 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-x.support.nl!128.32.206.60.MISMATCH!test-hog.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news3.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:52949 Stephen H. Westin wrote: > Lars Poulsen writes: > > Who did have the first hierachical file system, by the way ? > I would bet on MULTICS. At least it seems to be the first in the > Boston lineage (CTSS, ITS, MULTICS, TOPS-10, Unix, ...) > > What kind of filename syntax did it use ? > I think it was > down>down>file > May be wrong about the leading "<"; my direct contact was with PRIMOS, > which copied the scheme. Multics absolute path names began with > as in >udd>SyaAdmin>VanVleck>VanVleck.mbx Relative pathnames didn't have the leading > similar to UNIX pathnames. When Ken and Dennis presented UNIX, one of the things I really liked was the choice of / as a pathname separator, because it's in the same place on almost all keyboards, and it doesn't require a shift. Keyboards have standardized a lot now, but back in the late 60s, there were a lot of alternative locations for < and > and they weren't always lowercase.