From: westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8,alt.sys.pdp10,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Unix portability (was: Shell scripts) Date: 17 Mar 2000 16:39:33 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics Lines: 29 Sender: westin@DIESEL Message-ID: References: <8atab0$1ms1$1@citadel.in.taronga.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: diesel.graphics.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.syr.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.graphics.cornell.edu!news Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:52176 hmv@port.ac.uk (Mike Meredith at home) writes: > In article <8atab0$1ms1$1@citadel.in.taronga.com>, > peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes: > > In article , > > Mark Crispin wrote: > >>The UNIX world can do a better job; there should be binary portability > >>between UNIX systems that have the same CPU chip (currently the exception > >>rather than the rule), > > They should indeed do a better job --- at one time there was a > European research project in producing binary Unix packages that > would be architecture independant. I can't remember any of the > details and I haven't heard anything about it in a while though. Yeah, OSF had, I think, defined a machine-independent binary format. Your machine would be shipped with a code generator which would take your shrink-wrapped software and generate an executable. Assuming all ports of OSF/1 were reasonably bug-free, ISV's could just release one binary for everyone. But various Unix vendors decided that being incompatible was better for business. I bet you could still find some description on the OSF Web site. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8,alt.sys.pdp10,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Unix portability (was: Shell scripts) Date: 18 Mar 2000 21:02:32 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6u8zzgnj1j.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <8atab0$1ms1$1@citadel.in.taronga.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 953409754 486 10.0.3.2 (18 Mar 2000 20:02:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Mar 2000 20:02:34 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.folklore.computers:52256 westin*nospam@graphics.cornell.edu (Stephen H. Westin) writes: > hmv@port.ac.uk (Mike Meredith at home) writes: > > > They should indeed do a better job --- at one time there was a > > European research project in producing binary Unix packages that > > would be architecture independant. I can't remember any of the > > details and I haven't heard anything about it in a while though. > > Yeah, OSF had, I think, defined a machine-independent binary > format. Your machine would be shipped with a code generator which > would take your shrink-wrapped software and generate an > executable. Yes, ANDF (Architecture Neutral Distribution Format). -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Nerd, Geek, Hacker, Unix Guru, Sysadmin, Roleplayer, Mystic Use a WIMP (Windows Icons Mouse Pulldowns) interface - or get one with a CLUE (Command Linue User Environment)?