From: uj797@victoria.tc.ca (Arthur T. Murray) Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.arch,comp.robotics.misc,bionet.neuroscience,alt.folklore.computers Subject: ___ Step 001 of DIY AI: Choose your programming language. Date: 1 Mar 99 08:27:19 GMT Organization: Victoria Telecommunity Network Lines: 25 Message-ID: <36da4f67.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.60.222.1 X-Trace: 920276860 P4H4GSONCDE01C73CC usenet55.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com Summary: "La verite est en marche, et rien ne l'arretera." -- Emile Zola, "J'accuse" Keywords: computer architecture, open source software, Technological Singularity Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!remarQ-uK!remarQ.com!supernews.com!rQdQ!remarQ69!news.victoria.tc.ca!199.60.222.3 There ought to be a law against Do-It-Yourself Artificial Intelli- gence (DIY AI), because look at what has already begun to happen: /^^^^^^^^^^^\ Mind-grid Arrays{ } in Robot PDAI /^^^^^^^^^^^\ /visual memory\ _________ / auditory \ | /--------|---------\ / LANG-UK \ | memory | | | recog-|nition | \_________/---|-------------\ | | ___|___ | | flush-vector| | ________ | | | /image \ | ____V_ ____V__ | / \ | | | / percept \ | /psi{ }\------/ uk{ } \----|-/ ear{ } \| | | \ engrams /---|---/concepts\----/ lexicon \---|-\ phonemes / | | \_______/ | \________/ \_________/ | \________/ | http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/ The Mindmaker Project will link you to "The Art of Computer Mindmaking" -- a step-by-step instruction manual on how any junior high school kid or precocious university professor can hack up some code and produce a thinking automaton. http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-sing.html Vernor Vinge has already warned us about what could conceivably go wrong with AI, but Vinge also states that the rush to AI is inescapable. http://www.opensource.org/halloween1.html Eric S. Raymond teaches us DIY AI enthusiasts how to "harness the collective IQ" of count- less individuals flung like stars across the Web of the Internet. ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!usenet From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.arch,comp.robotics.misc,bionet.neuroscience,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: ___ Step 001 of DIY AI: Choose your programming language. Date: 01 Mar 1999 20:52:41 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 34 Sender: neil@chonsp.franklin.ch Message-ID: References: <36da4f67.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 uj797@victoria.tc.ca (Arthur T. Murray) spams: > > There ought to be a law against Do-It-Yourself Artificial Intelli- > gence (DIY AI), There ought to be a law for legalising killing of spammers, > because look at what has already begun to happen: > > /^^^^^^^^^^^\ Mind-grid Arrays{ } in Robot PDAI /^^^^^^^^^^^\ [rest deleted to save our nerves from yet annother copy] because look at what has already happened: The same stupid diagram has be spammed now over ten times into our innocent and unsuspecting newsgroup. Tip: alt.folklore.computers is about OLD stuff, about the good/bad old days. It is definitely not about some cranks favourite toy project. *PLONK* You are honored with being entry #2 in my killfile. #1 held since 1/2 year by KNT, Scientology spammer; for his plonking see: http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.out-of-body/19980506_Black_Magic_driving_you_away_from_Koos -- Neil Franklin, Nerd, Geek, Unix Guru, Hacker, Mystic neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ uNsTable - usable = NT ###### Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.arch,comp.robotics.misc,bionet.neuroscience,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: ___ Step 001 of DIY AI: Choose your programming language. References: <36da4f67.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> Organization: Plethora . Net - More net, less spam! X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test70 (17 January 1999) From: seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach) Lines: 16 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:02:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.166.146.8 X-Trace: ptah.visi.com 920318565 205.166.146.8 (Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:02:45 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:02:45 CDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!howland.erols.net!outgoing.news.rcn.net.MISMATCH!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!ptah.visi.com!not-for-mail In article , Neil Franklin wrote: >uj797@victoria.tc.ca (Arthur T. Murray) spams: >> There ought to be a law against Do-It-Yourself Artificial Intelli- >> gence (DIY AI), >There ought to be a law for legalising killing of spammers, Enthusiastic second! -s -- Copyright 1999, All rights reserved. Peter Seebach / seebs@plethora.net C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter. Boycott Spamazon! Will work for interesting hardware. http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/ Visit my new ISP --- More Net, Less Spam! ###### From: "Terry" Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.arch,comp.robotics.misc,bionet.neuroscience,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: ___ Step 001 of DIY AI: Choose your programming language. Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:02:52 -0000 Organization: Netkonect InterNetNews site Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7besdo$9pp$1@infoserv.netkonect.net> References: <36da4f67.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: tinca.netkonect.net X-Trace: infoserv.netkonect.net 920319224 10041 194.164.57.180 (1 Mar 1999 20:13:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.netkonect.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Mar 1999 20:13:44 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!news-raspail.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet!news.netkonect.net!not-for-mail Peter Seebach wrote in message ... >In article , >Neil Franklin wrote: >>uj797@victoria.tc.ca (Arthur T. Murray) spams: >>> There ought to be a law against Do-It-Yourself Artificial Intelli- >>> gence (DIY AI), > >>There ought to be a law for legalising killing of spammers, > >Enthusiastic second! > And no doubt motion carried by an overwhelming majority. Meeting adjourned, see y'all at the bar! ###### From: nxk3@po.cwru.edu (Natarajan Krishnaswami) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: ___ Step 001 of DIY AI: Choose your programming language. Date: 1 Mar 1999 20:25:52 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH (USA) Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <36da4f67.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> Reply-To: nxk3@po.cwru.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: yukon.scl.cwru.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.5.2 UNIX) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.service.ohio-state.edu!usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu!nxk3 [Newsgroups trimmed] On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:02:45 GMT, Peter Seebach wrote: > Neil Franklin wrote: > >There ought to be a law for legalising killing of spammers, > > Enthusiastic second! Euthanistic third!