From: faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu (Dave Faux) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: End of the World Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 20:10:59 GMT Organization: Taken On Faith Lines: 30 Message-ID: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> Reply-To: faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco-ts13-line7.uoregon.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: pith.uoregon.edu 902174835 2104 (None) 128.223.150.156 X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uoregon.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshub.northeast.verio.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!not-for-mail http://www.kwebradio.com/kw_faith.html Whether brought up on stories about Chicken Little or never missing an episode of Jack Van Impe, there is a sense that if the world isn't going to end soon, it sure as hell could. As the year 2000 approaches these concerns are becoming more prevalent in mainstream society. This time on "Taken on Faith," we hear from five experts who have studied the millenium from various disciplines. They are Daniel Wojcik (faith, fatalism, and apocalypse in America), Mimi Goldman (ordinary people in extraordinary social movements), Linda Kintz (the big sister who threatens to set off the apocalypse), James Earl (old news: another age, another apocalypse), and Tres Pyle (projecting desire on the blank screen of the millenium). ###### Message-ID: <35C6888F.AA4F443C@webslnger.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 21:05:35 -0700 From: Casady X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.48.52.59 Lines: 17 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.71.1.51!news-out.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.lh.net!207.48.52.59 Walter Eric Johnson wrote: > Just how does one become an expert on the end of > the world? It can't very well be based on experience. > It must be based on self-delusion. > > Eric Johnson I personally like the astronomy department at the University of Colorado, in Boulder. Took a few classes, including one in that, a few years age. Nice town. The earth will be utterly destroyed in no more than about 5 or 6 billion years, when the sun begins burning helium, or maybe in a year or two by a collision with a good sized rock. In either case, there are experts. I could probably email my former prof and get a few names, but ... Casady ###### From: hatunen@shell1.ncal.verio.com (David Hatunen) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 3 Aug 1998 21:32:57 -0700 Organization: Verio Northern California Lines: 23 Message-ID: <6q62tp$5b0$1@shell1.ncal.verio.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <6q5v05$2oi$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <6q611h$rp5$1@news2.halcyon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell1.ncal.verio.com Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!news.ncal.verio.com!not-for-mail In article <6q611h$rp5$1@news2.halcyon.com>, Carl Cook wrote: > >> >>: There is no reference to being an "expert on the end of : > the world" >>: in the description. These are experts on the Millenium. > >I know I'm dumb, but what *is* an expert on the millenium? As far as I know, a >millenium is just a piece of time that uses a calendar as a reference. He didn't say "millenium". He said "Millenium". There's a difference. >Is such an expert, an expert on millenium myths perhaps? A historian for >example. Interesting. Just wondering. -- *********** DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@wco.com) ************ * Daly City California: * * where San Francisco meets The Peninsula * ******* and the San Andreas Fault meets the Sea ******* ###### From: wej3715@fox.tamu.edu (Walter Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Date: 3 Aug 1998 23:12:46 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 8 Message-ID: <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: unix.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Aug 1998 23:12:46 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!nntp.giganews.com!solomon.io.com!news.tamu.edu!fox.tamu.edu!not-for-mail Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : Just how does one become an expert on the end of the world? It can't very well be based on experience. It must be based on self-delusion. Eric Johnson ###### Message-ID: <35C67565.4E7B3A22@freenet.msp.mn.us> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 02:43:49 +0000 From: Scott Stevens X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.34 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: usr-401-2-27.isd.net Lines: 33 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!wesley.videotron.net!Pollux.Teleglobe.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!aedes.isd.net!usr-401-2-27.isd.net Patric Miller wrote: > > Walter Eric Johnson wrote: > > > > Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: > > : > > > > Just how does one become an expert on the end of > > the world? It can't very well be based on experience. > > It must be based on self-delusion. > > > > Eric Johnson > > There is no reference to being an "expert on the end of > > the world" in the description. These are experts on the Millenium. Unless you feel the Millenium is the "end of the world," I'm confused as to how you would equate the two subjects. This from a newsgroup that banters over such minutia as "who invented the computer..." Pulleeeeze!! > > Patric Miller Many experts on "The Millenium" have been dead for nearly 1000 years now. They died with egg on their faces, too. The biggest risk we face as a culture comes from nutcases who seem to think that even though the theologians blew it at the last millenium, it's gonna happen this time. It's really unfortunate that we have to put up with it yet again. I hope we'll get over it by the year 3000. The biggest risk to the economy will be idiots pulling all the capital out and stuffing it in their bunkers. That could cause some serious turmoil. Of course, there's a fairly real computer "year 2000 problem" but that's a century problem, and has nothing at all to do with "the Millenium." It's just a coincidence (I can see people dragging out their Ouija boards, bibles, and other assorted brick-a-brack to disagree with me) that it falls on the same date (actually, a year early, but we don't need to go there....) as "the Millineum." ###### From: wendling@ganymede.isdn.uiuc.edu (Bill Wendling) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Date: 4 Aug 1998 03:25:57 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 23 Message-ID: <6q5v05$2oi$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ganymede.isdn.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!ibm.net!europa.clark.net!199.0.154.56!news2.ais.net!jamie!ais.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!wendling Patric Miller (pmiller@clipper.net) wrote: : Walter Eric Johnson wrote: : > : > Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : > : : > : > Just how does one become an expert on the end of : > the world? It can't very well be based on experience. : > It must be based on self-delusion. : > : > Eric Johnson : There is no reference to being an "expert on the end of : > the world" : in the description. These are experts on the Millenium. Unless you feel : the Millenium is the "end of the world," I'm confused as to how you would : equate the two subjects. This from a newsgroup that banters over such : minutia as "who invented the computer..." Pulleeeeze!! Okay...which one of them is 998 years old? -- || Bill Wendling wendling@ganymede.isdn.uiuc.edu ###### From: wej3715@scully.tamu.edu (Walter Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Date: 4 Aug 1998 03:44:06 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 43 Message-ID: <6q6026$oia$1@news.tamu.edu> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: unix.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Aug 1998 03:44:06 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!solomon.io.com!news.tamu.edu!scully.tamu.edu!not-for-mail Patric Miller (pmiller@clipper.net) wrote: : Walter Eric Johnson wrote: : > : > Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : > : : > : > Just how does one become an expert on the end of : > the world? It can't very well be based on experience. : > It must be based on self-delusion. : > : > Eric Johnson : : : There is no reference to being an "expert on the end of : > the world" in the description. These are experts on the : Millenium. Unless you feel the Millenium is the "end of the : world," I'm confused as to how you would equate the two : subjects. This from a newsgroup that banters over such : minutia as "who invented the computer..." Pulleeeeze!! Let's see. The title of the posting is "End of the world". In this posting is a description about some kind of discussion, presumably on the radio, among some so-called experts on the millineum. I have only run across three groups of people with a serious interest in the millineum: 1) people who can't decide whether the end of the millineum is December 31, 1999 or December 31, 2000. (I'm celebrating both times and so I don't really care about this issue.) 2) people who are worried about the Y2K problem. (I'm planning on being too busy celebrating to notice any problems.) 3) people who think the world is going to end because of deliberately reading the end of the world in Revelations (I'm planning on being too busy celebrating to notice.) In short, that list of so-called experts did not look like a list of calendar experts. If they had been experts on the calendar, they would probably not have been termed as experts on the millineum. That list did not look like Y2K consultants. In fact, the titles listed for such would likely look much different. That leaves the third group and the least expert of all. Eric Johnson ###### From: wej3715@scully.tamu.edu (Walter Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Date: 4 Aug 1998 04:00:30 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 8 Message-ID: <6q610u$oia$2@news.tamu.edu> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: unix.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Aug 1998 04:00:30 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!solomon.io.com!news.tamu.edu!scully.tamu.edu!not-for-mail Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : ... Linda Kintz (the : big sister who threatens to set : off the apocalypse) ... And this is one of the experts on the milleneum? Eric Johnson ###### From: clcook.spamsux@halcyon.com (Carl Cook) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 4 Aug 1998 04:00:49 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 14 Sender: clcook@lcy-lx101-ip8.nwnexus.net Message-ID: <6q611h$rp5$1@news2.halcyon.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <6q5v05$2oi$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lcy-lx101-ip8.nwnexus.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!news2.halcyon.com!not-for-mail > >: There is no reference to being an "expert on the end of : > the world" >: in the description. These are experts on the Millenium. I know I'm dumb, but what *is* an expert on the millenium? As far as I know, a millenium is just a piece of time that uses a calendar as a reference. Is such an expert, an expert on millenium myths perhaps? A historian for example. Interesting. Just wondering. Carl ###### From: "Juergen Nieveler" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <6q5v05$2oi$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <6q611h$rp5$1@news2.halcyon.com> <6q62tp$5b0$1@shell1.ncal.verio.com> Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:50:48 +0200 Lines: 15 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.98.136.243 Message-ID: <35c6e75f.0@wotan.compunet.de> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-vie.maz.net!news-hh.maz.net!unlisys!news.snafu.de!wotan.compunet.de!193.98.136.243 David Hatunen schrieb in Nachricht <6q62tp$5b0$1@shell1.ncal.verio.com>... >He didn't say "millenium". He said "Millenium". There's a >difference. OK, I´ll bite. They got some experts discussing a TV series? Just my $0.02 (How many Euros is this) Juergen Nieveler ###### From: tindall@panix.com (Bruce Tindall) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 4 Aug 1998 10:48:14 -0400 Organization: Panix Lines: 11 Message-ID: <6q76ve$535@panix3.panix.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <35C67565.4E7B3A22@freenet.msp.mn.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.nfs100.access.net X-Newsposter: trn 4.0-test55 (26 Feb 97) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail Scott Stevens wrote: >The biggest risk we face >as a culture comes from nutcases who seem to think that even though the >theologians blew it at the last millenium, it's gonna happen this time. Care to name some of those theologians? B "My Y1K problem...and yours" T -- Bruce Tindall tindall@panix.com ###### From: The Raintree Clinic Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 13:52:43 -0400 Organization: http://www.supernews.com, The World's Usenet: Discussions Start Here Lines: 21 Message-ID: <35C74A6B.47DAF0E6@blueridge.net> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.152.121.196 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 902253441 VRL06/YYI79C4CD98C usenet87.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.abs.net!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail Seems that Mr. WEJ was quick to attack with no basis for such a derogatory comment. When his mind closes and no one is around to see it, will it make a sound? S. (a boomerang that does not come back is just a stick) Earley Walter Eric Johnson wrote: > Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: > : > > Just how does one become an expert on the end of > the world? It can't very well be based on experience. > It must be based on self-delusion. > > Eric Johnson ###### From: Marco S Hyman Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 04 Aug 1998 14:02:56 -0700 Organization: S.N.A.F.U. (www.snafu.org) Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <6q5v05$2oi$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <6q611h$rp5$1@news2.halcyon.com> <6q62tp$5b0$1@shell1.ncal.verio.com> <35c6e75f.0@wotan.compunet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dumbcat.codewright.com X-Trace: 902264579 29261 marc 206.86.0.12 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!204.156.128.20!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail "Juergen Nieveler" writes: > David Hatunen schrieb in Nachricht <6q62tp$5b0$1@shell1.ncal.verio.com>... > >He didn't say "millenium". He said "Millenium". There's a > >difference. > They got some experts discussing a TV series? Naw... A book by John Varley. Exept I think there are other books by other authors with the same name. // marc ###### From: Rodger Coghlan Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 14:42:41 -0400 Organization: Oxford University Press Lines: 24 Message-ID: <35C75621.7576@-oup-usa.org> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C74A6B.47DAF0E6@blueridge.net> Reply-To: rodger-@-oup-usa.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.72.50.113 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!interpath.net!not-for-mail The Raintree Clinic wrote: > S. (a boomerang that does not come back is just a stick) Earley > Actually, that is not true at all - boomerangs were not designed to, necessarily come back to the thrower: (from THE big dic. OED) "boomerang, sb. 1. an Australian missile weapon: a curved piece of hard wood from 2 to 3 feet long with a sharp edge along the convexity of the curve. It is so made as to describe complex curves in its flight and can be thrown so as to hit an object in a different direction from that of projection, or so as to return to or beyond the starting-point." Some of the flight paths are designed to whirl past the target a couple times before hitting from an unexpected direction. There are some fascinating diagrams in various encyclopediae. In Figi, the boomerang is designed to strike the ground in front of an opponent, bounce up, snag and pull the shield down, leaving an opening through which an opponent can attack. -- All opinions expressed are Mine (mea culpa, mea culpa, Mea maxima culpa) ###### From: hatunen@shell1.ncal.verio.com (David Hatunen) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 4 Aug 1998 20:39:07 -0700 Organization: Verio Northern California Lines: 19 Message-ID: <6q8k4r$d64$1@shell1.ncal.verio.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <35C74A6B.47DAF0E6@blueridge.net> <6q8321$j0n$2@news.tamu.edu> <35C779C0.F27C00BE@plano.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell1.ncal.verio.com Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.wli.net!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!news.ncal.verio.com!not-for-mail In article <35C779C0.F27C00BE@plano.net>, Charles Richmond wrote: >I know that the NewsGroups are informal, and *no* one cares about >spelling. But I have read about 20 messages on the end of the >world, and it seems *no* one can spell "millennium" correctly. >So, for the record... > >And how about getting this thread *out* of . I read >*nothing* concerning computers in this thread. Be kind and remove >it from the follow-up line. Is there some particular reason you didn't do that yourself? -- *********** DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@wco.com) ************ * Daly City California: * * where San Francisco meets The Peninsula * ******* and the San Andreas Fault meets the Sea ******* ###### From: Charles Richmond Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 21:14:40 +0000 Organization: Cannine Computer Center Lines: 12 Message-ID: <35C779C0.F27C00BE@plano.net> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C74A6B.47DAF0E6@blueridge.net> <6q8321$j0n$2@news.tamu.edu> Reply-To: richmond@plano.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.44.41.87 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 902283075 R67V8VHUD2957D12CC usenet53.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail I know that the NewsGroups are informal, and *no* one cares about spelling. But I have read about 20 messages on the end of the world, and it seems *no* one can spell "millennium" correctly. So, for the record... And how about getting this thread *out* of . I read *nothing* concerning computers in this thread. Be kind and remove it from the follow-up line. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ ###### Message-ID: <35C78399.7B3C643E@freenet.msp.mn.us> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 21:56:41 +0000 From: Scott Stevens X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.34 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <35C67565.4E7B3A22@freenet.msp.mn.us> <6q76ve$535@panix3.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: usr-401-1-155.isd.net Lines: 28 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!aedes.isd.net!usr-401-1-155.isd.net Bruce Tindall wrote: > > Scott Stevens wrote: > >The biggest risk we face > >as a culture comes from nutcases who seem to think that even though the > >theologians blew it at the last millenium, it's gonna happen this time. > > Care to name some of those theologians? > > B "My Y1K problem...and yours" T > > -- > Bruce Tindall tindall@panix.com I don't have any specific names, but now you've gotten me to dig out volume IX of Toynbee's "A Study of History" (unabridged edition, Oxford University Press). Toynbee, referring to Gibbons' claim that history had come to an end in the eighteenth century, writes "...he was only suffering the same fate as his forebearers the eleventh-century Millenarians whose no better founded pessemistic conviction that History was coming to an end on the thousanth anniversary of Christ's nativity-- or, failing that, at any rate on the thousanth anniversary of of the end of His mission on Earth-- was no less conclusively refuted within their own lifetime by History's inconsiderate performance of sailing on serenely through each, in turn, of these nicely calculated successive terminal dates." (Toynbee, Volume IX, page 438) ###### From: wej3715@scully.tamu.edu (Walter Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban Date: 4 Aug 1998 22:47:29 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 14 Message-ID: <6q8321$j0n$2@news.tamu.edu> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C74A6B.47DAF0E6@blueridge.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: unix.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Aug 1998 22:47:29 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!solomon.io.com!news.tamu.edu!scully.tamu.edu!not-for-mail The Raintree Clinic (raintree@blueridge.net) wrote: : Seems that Mr. WEJ was quick to attack with no basis for such a : derogatory comment. I'd say the original posting provided plenty of basis. : When his mind closes and no one is around to see it, will it make a : sound? Aha! So we're supposed to give all the crackpots our undivided attention? Where's that fellow from Ohio who's being bombarded by mind control? Eric Johnson ###### From: Robert Billing Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:00:40 +0100 Organization: Tanglewood Message-ID: <35C78488.726EA27C@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <6q5v05$2oi$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <6q611h$rp5$1@news2.halcyon.com> <6q62tp$5b0$1@shell1.ncal.verio.com> <35c6e75f.0@wotan.compunet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tnglwood.demon.co.uk:158.152.132.30 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 902268303 nnrp-01:25468 NO-IDENT tnglwood.demon.co.uk:158.152.132.30 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) Lines: 15 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!news.idt.net!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!tnglwood.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Marco S Hyman wrote: > Naw... A book by John Varley. Exept I think there are other books by other > authors with the same name. There are of course other books with other names by the same author, as well as other books with other names by other authors, and books with the same name by the same author, although not all at once, as this would be too confusing. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover, I live near 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock phasers on the Heffalump, Piglet, meet me in transporter room three" ###### Path: ccw.ch!usenet From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 05 Aug 1998 00:28:37 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <35C67565.4E7B3A22@freenet.msp.mn.us> X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Scott Stevens writes: > Of course, there's a fairly real computer "year 2000 problem" but that's > a century problem, and has nothing at all to do with "the Millenium." Exactly. The Millenium Problem happened 998 yeara ago when 999 -> 1000. It just shows what cheap crap modern computers are that they screw up on this. 998 years ago not one computer crashed, today we fear an catastrophy ;-) > that it falls on the same date (actually, a year early, but we don't > need to go there....) as "the Millineum." Sheesh, you are spoiling our attempts of getting 2 great parties. On the odometer one and then a year later the real one. -- home: Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/ work: franklin@arch.ethz.ch.remove http://caad.arch.ethz.ch/~franklin/ *** It's true ! I read it on Usenet and the Web ! *** ###### From: jsavard@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 5 Aug 1998 03:25:45 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 13 Message-ID: <6q8jbp$uom$2@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: fnt2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.6] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!torn!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!jsavard Walter Eric Johnson (wej3715@fox.tamu.edu) wrote: : Just how does one become an expert on the end of : the world? It can't very well be based on experience. : It must be based on self-delusion. Eschatology is a perfectly legitimate theological specialty. How dare you imply (accidentally, as this thread is about the Y2K problem) that faith in Holy Scripture constitutes self-delusion. If it is a delusion, most of its victims had help from their parents and their surrounding society. John Savard ###### From: Jim Everman Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 07:15:25 -0500 Organization: Very good. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <35C84CDD.673C@anet-stl.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C74A6B.47DAF0E6@blueridge.net> <6q8321$j0n$2@news.tamu.edu> <6q9a10$7l$1@heliodor.xara.net> Reply-To: everman@anet-stl.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp235.anet-stl.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news13.ispnews.com 902319428 24593 209.83.129.235 (5 Aug 1998 12:17:08 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Aug 1998 12:17:08 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!europa.clark.net!209.69.36.218!news1.ispnews.com!news11.ispnews.com!not-for-mail Andrew Ducker wrote: > > Walter Eric Johnson wrote in message <6q8321$j0n$2@news.tamu.edu>... > >The Raintree Clinic (raintree@blueridge.net) wrote: > >Aha! So we're supposed to give all the crackpots our undivided > >attention? Where's that fellow from Ohio who's being bombarded > >by mind control? > In Ohio. And let's hope he stays there. Why is it that people say, "Please reset the followups line" and then don't do it? Am I missing something (other than that)? -- Jim Everman mailto:everman@Anet-STL.com http://www.Anet-STL.com/~everman/ Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. ###### From: "Andrew Ducker" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:17:10 +0100 Lines: 21 Message-ID: <6q9a10$7l$1@heliodor.xara.net> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C74A6B.47DAF0E6@blueridge.net> <6q8321$j0n$2@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.147.15.117 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!btnet-peer!btnet!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.itg.net.uk!usenet Walter Eric Johnson wrote in message <6q8321$j0n$2@news.tamu.edu>... >The Raintree Clinic (raintree@blueridge.net) wrote: >: Seems that Mr. WEJ was quick to attack with no basis for such a >: derogatory comment. > >I'd say the original posting provided plenty of basis. > >: When his mind closes and no one is around to see it, will it make a >: sound? > >Aha! So we're supposed to give all the crackpots our undivided >attention? Where's that fellow from Ohio who's being bombarded >by mind control? In Ohio. Andy D ###### From: thweatt@prairie.NoDak.edu (Superdave the Wonderchemist) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Date: 5 Aug 1998 16:15:26 GMT Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Lines: 40 Message-ID: <6qa0eu$aq0$2@node2.nodak.edu> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: prairie.nodak.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!134.129.111.78!news.sendit.nodak.edu!news.nodak.edu!prairie.NoDak.edu!thweatt Patric Miller (pmiller@clipper.net) wrote: : Walter Eric Johnson wrote: : > : > Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : > : : > : > Just how does one become an expert on the end of : > the world? It can't very well be based on experience. : > It must be based on self-delusion. : > : > Eric Johnson : There is no reference to being an "expert on the end of : > the world" in the description. These are experts on the Millenium. Unless you feel the Millenium is the "end of the world," I'm confused as to how you would equate the two subjects. This from a newsgroup that banters over such minutia as "who invent ed the computer..." Pulleeeeze!! So they're over 1000 years old? -- --"The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span the hours spent in fishing." -- Babylonian proverb -Superdave The Wonderchemist (an inside joke) Theoretical Chemistry Grad student (read slave) NDSU Fargo, ND (read middle of nowhere) Disclaimer: I speak for no one but myself unless I am wrong, then I speak on behalf of someone else. (read whatever) Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, §227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. ##### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban From: jpenrose@netcom.com (James Penrose) Subject: Re: End of the World Message-ID: Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Organization: Netcom On-Line Services X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <6q5v05$2oi$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <6q611h$rp5$1@news2.halcyon.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:45:22 GMT Lines: 21 Sender: jpenrose@netcom18.netcom.com Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!ix.netcom.com!jpenrose Carl Cook (clcook.spamsux@halcyon.com) wrote: : > : >: There is no reference to being an "expert on the end of : > the world" : >: in the description. These are experts on the Millenium. : I know I'm dumb, but what *is* an expert on the millenium? As far as I know, a : millenium is just a piece of time that uses a calendar as a reference. : Is such an expert, an expert on millenium myths perhaps? A historian for : example. Interesting. Just wondering. It's someone who can count to a thousand without taking their shoes off one hundred times. ;0 Nice thing about it, if you're wrong you can just smile and say "Wait till next millenium and you'll see!", just like the shamans of religion can say "Give me your money now and after you die, you'll get a lovely gift." Since no one can check it out till they die, it's a really safe racket. ###### From: David Wragg Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 05 Aug 1998 20:03:50 +0000 Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <6q5v05$2oi$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <6q611h$rp5$1@news2.halcyon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sytry.doc.ic.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!server4.netnews.ja.net!doc.ic.ac.uk!gatsby.u-net.com!not-for-mail clcook.spamsux@halcyon.com (Carl Cook) writes: > >: There is no reference to being an "expert on the end of : > the > >:world" in the description. These are experts on the Millenium. > > I know I'm dumb, but what *is* an expert on the millenium? As far as I > know, a millenium is just a piece of time that uses a calendar as a > reference. Perhaps an expert on the "millenium" is someone who knows the correct spelling. -- Dave Wragg ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban From: hacker8@NOPAMusa.net (Ben) Subject: Re: End of the World Organization: None References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Lines: 13 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 20:59:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.33.241.103 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 13:59:52 PDT Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!howland.erols.net!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!newsfeed.icanect.net!newsfeed.slurp.net!not-for-mail In article <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu>, wej3715@fox.tamu.edu (Walter Eric Johnson) wrote: >Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: >: > >Just how does one become an expert on the end of >the world? It can't very well be based on experience. >It must be based on self-delusion. > >Eric Johnson I think someone becomes an expert on the apocalypse the same way those TV psychics become 'certified'. I'm looking forward to my Ph. D. in parapsychology. ###### Message-ID: <35C8F503.4FEF8921@freenet.msp.mn.us> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 00:12:51 +0000 From: Scott Stevens X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.34 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: End of the World References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <6q8jbp$uom$2@news.sas.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: usr-401-4-48.isd.net Lines: 18 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news2.ais.net!jamie!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in4.uu.net!aedes.isd.net!usr-401-4-48.isd.net jsavard@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > > Walter Eric Johnson (wej3715@fox.tamu.edu) wrote: > : Just how does one become an expert on the end of > : the world? It can't very well be based on experience. > : It must be based on self-delusion. > > Eschatology is a perfectly legitimate theological specialty. How dare you > imply (accidentally, as this thread is about the Y2K problem) that faith > in Holy Scripture constitutes self-delusion. > > If it is a delusion, most of its victims had help from their parents and > their surrounding society. > > John Savard Yes, it's a delusion, and most of it's victims had help from their parents and their surrounding society. Whatever... ####### From: Ian Stirling <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:51:38 +0100 Organization: None. Message-ID: <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q610u$oia$2@news.tamu.edu> X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 902367211 mail2news:4600 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!post-12.mail.demon.net!post.mail.demon.net![158.152.209.66]!mauve.demon.co.uk User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971106 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.34 (i586)) X-Note: Anti-UCE in effect, replying should work if you are not UCE'ng X-Warning0: For unsolicited commercial email, sent or causing to be sent to my email address X-Warning1: on this message, I reserve the right to levy a charge for my time and expenses X-Warning2: of up to 100 pounds sterling per message, plus legal, penalty or other costs. Lines: 19 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.idt.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail In alt.folklore.computers Walter Eric Johnson wrote: : Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : : ... Linda Kintz (the : : big sister who threatens to set : : off the apocalypse) ... : And this is one of the experts on the milleneum? Milennium's origin is annus - latin for year, 1000 years Milenium .. anus - not latin for year. 1000 anuses. If more people knew this, my sig might be more widely understood :) -- See http://www.mauve.demon.co.uk/ |Linux PDA, cheap electronics/PC bits sale. See_header,_for_UCE_policy___________|_____________________________Ian_Stirling. Windows 98, software for the milenia. Ian Stirling. ###### From: fuboco@aol.com (Fuboco) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: End of the World Lines: 6 Message-ID: <1998080604112400.AAA28121@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 6 Aug 1998 04:11:24 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <6q8k4r$d64$1@shell1.ncal.verio.com> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Ya, Lets get back to COMPUTER talk here, people or fatalists have been talking about the end of the world for thousands of years, if it ends, so be it, most things we worry about Never come to pass anyway, just live and work on computers is what I say..... Dan.. ###### From: "Juergen Nieveler" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q610u$oia$2@news.tamu.edu> <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:31:06 +0200 Lines: 34 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.98.136.244 Message-ID: <35c970ad.0@wotan.compunet.de> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!europa.clark.net!209.150.97.11!feeder.qis.net!news-hh.maz.net!unlisys!news.snafu.de!wotan.compunet.de!193.98.136.244 Ian Stirling <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> schrieb in Nachricht <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk>... >In alt.folklore.computers Walter Eric Johnson wrote: >: Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: >: : ... Linda Kintz (the >: : big sister who threatens to set >: : off the apocalypse) ... > >: And this is one of the experts on the milleneum? > > >Milennium's origin is annus - latin for year, 1000 years >Milenium .. anus - not latin for year. 1000 anuses. > >If more people knew this, my sig might be more widely understood :) > >-- >See http://www.mauve.demon.co.uk/ |Linux PDA, cheap electronics/PC bits sale. >See_header,_for_UCE_policy___________|_____________________________Ian_Stir ling. >Windows 98, software for the milenia. Ian Stirling. > Funny sig! Now I know that my 6 years learning latin haven´t been wasted... Jürgen Nieveler Be it ever so humble, there´s no place like home$! ###### Message-ID: <35C9B51E.C5710114@danet.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 09:52:30 -0400 From: "J. Benz" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: End of the World References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <6q8jbp$uom$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <35C8F503.4FEF8921@freenet.msp.mn.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: pc-135.danet.com Lines: 10 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!news.nauticom.net!pc-135.danet.com Scott Stevens wrote: > jsavard@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > > > > Eschatology is a perfectly legitimate theological specialty. Legitimate among self-deluded theologists... ###### From: Mike Holmans Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:42:02 +0100 Organization: Jackalope Hall Message-ID: References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q610u$oia$2@news.tamu.edu> <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: jackalope.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: jackalope.demon.co.uk:158.152.196.42 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 902407173 nnrp-09:18109 NO-IDENT jackalope.demon.co.uk:158.152.196.42 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Lines: 24 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!btnet-peer!btnet!newshub.northeast.verio.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!jackalope.demon.co.uk!possum Ian Stirling <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> felt like saying: >In alt.folklore.computers Walter Eric Johnson wrote: >: Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: >: : ... Linda Kintz (the >: : big sister who threatens to set >: : off the apocalypse) ... > >: And this is one of the experts on the milleneum? > > >Milennium's origin is annus - latin for year, 1000 years >Milenium .. anus - not latin for year. 1000 anuses. > This is presumably why you spell it with one 'l', indicating its derivation from miles - Latin for soldier, rather than mille - Latin for a thousand. Mike "bilious and bilious" Holmans -- "Well, you're unusual, Michael" - Alice Faber The exciting AFU FAQ, and many other things, may be found at http://www.urbanlegends.com ###### From: Neil Major Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 13:29:42 +0100 Message-ID: References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <35C67565.4E7B3A22@freenet.msp.mn.us> <6q76ve$535@panix3.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: taiga1.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: taiga1.demon.co.uk:212.228.79.101 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 902407054 nnrp-02:18970 NO-IDENT taiga1.demon.co.uk:212.228.79.101 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Lines: 34 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshub.northeast.verio.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!taiga1.demon.co.uk!Neil In article <6q76ve$535@panix3.panix.com>, Bruce Tindall writes >Scott Stevens wrote: >>The biggest risk we face >>as a culture comes from nutcases who seem to think that even though the >>theologians blew it at the last millenium, it's gonna happen this time. > >Care to name some of those theologians? > Millennial panic existed at various times between about 400AD to 1500AD in Europe. Yes before you say anything, I know that isn't the exact time, but outside of the educated elite, most people didn't know what year it was. Millennial panic (defined I guess more losely here as panic about the end of the world) existed as a consequence of early Christianity's faith that the return of the Messiah as imminent. Although the church fairly quickly changed this from being an imminent to a far off event, there were waves of belief in the general populace in the end of the world in various parts of Europe at different times, normally in times of strife. I'm sorry I don't have many examples to hand, but those who purported that the end of the world had arrived, spread radical doctorines and ended up burnt as heretics when the apocalypse refused to arrive, so I suppose this counts as egg on their face :) See Norman Cohn's In Pursuit of the Millenium for further details. The whole thing about the millenium is that are we (as a human race) no longer superstitious enough to believe that Y2K will bring an end. If people start acting as if the end of the world is imminent (eg that cult in Japan, that apart from that gassing was trying to build nukes) then we have a problem. -- Neil "We are always living in the last days. How much longer have you got? 70 years or much, much less till the end of your world?" Signal to Noise ###### From: pk2222@aol.com (Pk2222) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: End of the World Lines: 5 Message-ID: <1998080616020600.MAA24525@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 6 Aug 1998 16:02:06 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <35C9B51E.C5710114@danet.com> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >theologists... ??? Theologians, maybe? ###### From: Ian Stirling <000035CA265B.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:55:39 +0100 Organization: None. Message-ID: <000035CA265B.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q610u$oia$2@news.tamu.edu> <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 902444397 mail2news:13453 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!post-11.mail.demon.net!post.mail.demon.net![158.152.209.66]!mauve.demon.co.uk User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971106 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.34 (i586)) X-Note: Anti-UCE in effect, replying should work if you are not UCE'ng X-Warning0: For unsolicited commercial email, sent or causing to be sent to my email address X-Warning1: on this message, I reserve the right to levy a charge for my time and expenses X-Warning2: of up to 100 pounds sterling per message, plus legal, penalty or other costs. Lines: 26 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail In alt.folklore.computers Mike Holmans wrote: : Ian Stirling <000035C8FE1A.NO_UCE@mauve.demon.co.uk> felt like saying: :>In alt.folklore.computers Walter Eric Johnson wrote: :>: Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: :>: : ... Linda Kintz (the :>: : big sister who threatens to set :>: : off the apocalypse) ... :> :>: And this is one of the experts on the milleneum? :> :> :>Milennium's origin is annus - latin for year, 1000 years :>Milenium .. anus - not latin for year. 1000 anuses. :> : This is presumably why you spell it with one 'l', indicating its : derivation from miles - Latin for soldier, rather than mille - Latin for : a thousand. ARGH. :) -- See http://www.mauve.demon.co.uk/ |Linux PDA, cheap electronics/PC bits sale. See_header,_for_UCE_policy___________|_____________________________Ian_Stirling. "I am the Emperor, and I want dumplings." Austrian Emperor, Ferdinand I. ###### From: David E. Fox Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:15:37 -0700 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <902470707.1392045133@nntp.best.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C6888F.AA4F443C@webslnger.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: belvdere.vip.best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: 902470800 23256 dfox 206.86.0.12 X-Newsreader: KRN http://ultra7.unl.edu.ar Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail On Mon, 03 Aug 1998, Casady wrote: >I personally like the astronomy department at the University >of Colorado, in Boulder. Took a few classes, including one in that, >a few years age. Nice town. The earth will be utterly destroyed in >no more than about 5 or 6 billion years, when the sun begins burning Including Boulder. :) Anyhow, you've reminded me of a possibly well-known anecdote that the late Dr. Carl Sagan used. Apparently he was giving a talk on this subject, and there was this little old lady who came up to him at the close of his talk, and she asked him if he really meant six billion years. He said yes, and the little old lady replied "Oh that's a relief. I thought you said million". :) At least that's how I remember it. >Casady -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ David E. Fox Tax Thanks for letting me dfox@belvdere.vip.best.com the change magnetic patterns root@belvedere.sbay.org churches on your hard disk. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ###### From: rick larson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:55:49 -0500 Organization: univ of illinois, urbana Lines: 24 Message-ID: <35CB0765.4A80@uiuc.edu> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu> <35C6888F.AA4F443C@webslnger.com> <902470707.1392045133@nntp.best.com> Reply-To: ralarson@uiuc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: larson.ies.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!news.idt.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!128.174.5.49!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!not-for-mail David E. Fox wrote: > > > > Anyhow, you've reminded me of a possibly well-known anecdote that > the late Dr. Carl Sagan used. Apparently he was giving a talk on this > subject, and there was this little old lady who came up to him at the > close of his talk, and she asked him if he really meant six billion years. He > said yes, and the little old lady replied "Oh that's a relief. I thought you > said million". :) > > At least that's how I remember it. > I saw the same joke in a _Mutt and Jeff_ comic strip, must be more than 40 years ago now. -- Rick "maybe Carl saw the same one" Larson, NRES, UIUC, 372 EASB, 1101 W. Peabody, Urbana, IL 61801 "Maybe we should both become Amish. They're definitely pre-Velcro." -- Bill Griffith's "Zippy the Pinhead," 5 August 1998. ###### From: bradham@panix.com (Bo Bradham) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 7 Aug 1998 10:04:01 -0400 Organization: Hong Fat Noodle Company Lines: 25 Message-ID: <6qf1gh$54f@panix2.panix.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <35C6888F.AA4F443C@webslnger.com> <902470707.1392045133@nntp.best.com> <35CB0765.4A80@uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.nfs100.access.net X-Newsposter: trn 4.0-test55 (26 Feb 97) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail rick larson wrote: >David E. Fox wrote: >> >> Anyhow, you've reminded me of a possibly well-known anecdote that >> the late Dr. Carl Sagan used. Apparently he was giving a talk on this >> subject, and there was this little old lady who came up to him at the >> close of his talk, and she asked him if he really meant six billion years. He >> said yes, and the little old lady replied "Oh that's a relief. I thought you >> said million". :) >> >> At least that's how I remember it. > >I saw the same joke in a _Mutt and Jeff_ comic strip, must be more than >40 years ago now. Did Sagan tell it as though it happened to him? He refers to that joke in his book "Billions and Billions" but I am pretty sure he refers to it as an old joke, not as something he claims happened to him. Bo Bradham -- One does not seriously attack the expertise of a scientist using the undefined phrase "butt-head." _Sagan v. Apple Computer, Inc._, 874 F. Supp. 1072 (C.D. Cal. 1994) ###### From: p.kerr@auckland.ac.nz (Peter Kerr) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 16:23:42 +1200 Organization: School of Music University of Auckland Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <35C9B51E.C5710114@danet.com> <1998080616020600.MAA24525@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p.kerr.mus.auckland.ac.nz X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b6 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.clear.net.nz!news.iprolink.co.nz!auckland.ac.nz!p.kerr > > Theologians, maybe? The ones mentioned seemed to be eschatologists... -- Peter Kerr bodger School of Music chandler University of Auckland NZ neo-Luddite ###### From: "Psycho Chihuahua" Subject: Re: End of the World Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6q5g5e$7ff$1@news.tamu.edu><35C65CBD.42BC@clipper.net> <35C67565.4E7B3A22@freenet.msp.mn.us><6q76ve$535@panix3.panix.com> Organization: ANti_FLux http://www.angelfire.com/ny/AntiFluxMain/index.html Message-ID: <01bdc17f$1cc7b7a0$1f84c80a@rrideout.northatlantic.nf.ca> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Lines: 10 Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 21:15:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.128.1.15 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 17:15:28 EDT Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news21.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail When ever there's a year ending with 00 or even 000, People get scared. It was like that 1000 years ago and 100 years ago just because they are a big and rounded numbers. It's kind of paranoia built in. There's a simple solution to the 2000 bug problem, use programs that don't need time or dates, save them and when the bug is fixed, maybe a year or so later, buy a new comp. SO START SAVING!! Computers are going to be EXPENSIVE maybe 5000 dollars. or you can just replace your memory board for a nice 1000. ###### From: "Dirk" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:52:20 -0400 Organization: http://www.supernews.com, The World's Usenet: Discussions Start Here Lines: 11 Message-ID: <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.161.238.100 X-Trace: 903362036 VJMABZOFMEE64CDA1C usenet53.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-raspail.gip.net!news-dc.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cyclone.news.idirect.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail Dave Faux wrote in message <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu>... [snip-post] have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear bombs and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. Dirk ###### From: faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu (Dave Faux) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:22:26 GMT Organization: Taken On Faith Lines: 16 Message-ID: <35d83c76.6613365@news.uoregon.edu> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> Reply-To: faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco-ts15-line7.uoregon.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: pith.uoregon.edu 903363517 20782 (None) 128.223.150.190 X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uoregon.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!not-for-mail >have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . >without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear bombs >and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. > >Dirk I'll bite. What do you mean by "world," and what do you mean by "from the inside out?" Dave Faux (University of Oregon) Taken on Faith http://www.kwebradio.com/kw_faith.html Now Playing: Millenarianism 0/ <| / > ###### From: "Samael" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:00:53 +0100 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <6r9dae$l67$1@heliodor.xara.net> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.126.86.230 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!btnet-peer!btnet!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.itg.net.uk!usenet Dirk wrote in message <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com>... >Dave Faux wrote in message <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu>... > >[snip-post] > >have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . >without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear bombs >and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. Care to explain that one in a bit mroe detail? Samael ###### From: thehalls@ridgecrest.ca.us (Dave/Kristin Hall) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Date: 17 Aug 1998 20:26:01 GMT Organization: We're Disorganized! Lines: 13 Message-ID: <6ra3kp$akf$2@ash.ridgecrest.ca.us> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: owens.ridgecrest.ca.us X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.120.150.5!news.ridgecrest.ca.us!owens!not-for-mail Dirk (dirkf@praxis.net) wrote: : have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . : without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear bombs : and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. Nope. Haven't considered it. Got any reason why I should? -- David Hall Propulsion Performance Office (Code 4732H0D) Naval Air Warfare Center - Weapons Division China Lake, CA 93555 ###### From: bpalmer@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brian A Palmer) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: End of the World Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers Date: 18 Aug 1998 07:46:08 GMT Lines: 33 Message-ID: <6rbbg0$rba$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> <35d83c76.6613365@news.uoregon.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: elaine15.stanford.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!la-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.stanford.edu!nntp.stanford.edu!not-for-mail Dave Faux (faux@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : >have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . : >without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear bombs : >and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. : > : >Dirk : : I'll bite. What do you mean by "world," and what do you mean by "from : the inside out?" : : Dave Faux (University of Oregon) : Taken on Faith : http://www.kwebradio.com/kw_faith.html : Now Playing: Millenarianism : 0/ : <| : / > Don't you see what he's trying to say? Obviously, he was just limited by space and/or time (*gasp* what about he space/time continuum? Oh no, its worse than I thought!) We're all familiar with the "hello world" program shown in K&R, and the incredible, inexplicable increase in size when compiled with a newfangled C++ compiler. The extra bytes serve no purpose but to weigh down the machines; the sheer number of machines is also increasing, saturating the globe. Perhaps the millenium is when the machines reach critical mass, and the "hello world" programs converse to form a singularity, consuming the world "from inside out". This /is/ what he meant, right? brian p.s. newsgroups snipped to afc ###### From: Shez@sv.span.junkblok.com (Shez) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Tue, 18 Aug 98 15:38:04 GMT Organization: Theorem 1 Message-ID: <903479884snx@sv.span.junkblok.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> <35d83c76.6613365@news.uoregon.edu> X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 903453594 mail2news:12074 mail2news mail2news.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Mail2News-Path: news.demon.net!post-20.mail.demon.net!post.mail.demon.net![158.152.9.124] X-Poster: RAID@span.com, Sound & Vision Internet BBS [+44] (0)181-288-8444 Lines: 14 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail I think this is a misquote. It should read 'The End Of "Hello World"', and refers to the fact that from the millennium, all tryout programs will be required to take the form printf("I think therefore I am\n"), this being an intermediate string to be replaced ten years later with printf("I'm sorry, I can't do that Dave\n") Ironically, this is also my final posting to Usenet - yay, verily, the end is nigh! -Shez. ____________________________________________________ If replying by email delete .junkblok from address ###### From: "GrimReaperr" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:05:38 -0500 Organization: Avalon Networks Inc. Lines: 30 Message-ID: <6rdmhr$5d8$1@sword.avalon.net> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> <6r9dae$l67$1@heliodor.xara.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: x2-16.ic.avalon.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!europa.clark.net!208.134.241.18!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.71.106.34!avalon.net!not-for-mail Survival of the fittest... -- .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`GrimReaperr¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸. Samael wrote in message <6r9dae$l67$1@heliodor.xara.net>... : :Dirk wrote in message <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com>... :>Dave Faux wrote in message <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu>... :> :>[snip-post] :> :>have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . :>without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear :bombs :>and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. : : :Care to explain that one in a bit mroe detail? : :Samael : : ###### From: 237astro <237astro@concentric.net> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Date: 21 Aug 1998 20:37:08 PDT Organization: Astro View Lines: 18 Message-ID: <35DDF4A7.5A9F@concentric.net> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> <6ra3kp$akf$2@ash.ridgecrest.ca.us> Reply-To: 237astro@concentric.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ts003d31.orl-fl.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C (Win95; I) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!la-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master Dave/Kristin Hall wrote: > > Dirk (dirkf@praxis.net) wrote: > > : have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . > : without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear bombs > : and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. > > Nope. Haven't considered it. Got any reason why I should? > > -- > David Hall > Propulsion Performance Office (Code 4732H0D) > Naval Air Warfare Center - Weapons Division > China Lake, CA 93555 the predictions page at www.cyberview900.com at the bottom of the page they talk about death that it is predicable and the we are all in one so there no end to the world.we are the world. ###### From: Don Parker Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:27:44 -0700 Organization: Tazman 2000 Lines: 33 Message-ID: <35DF53F0.DFB@cswnet.com> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> <6ra3kp$akf$2@ash.ridgecrest.ca.us> <35DDF4A7.5A9F@concentric.net> Reply-To: tazman@cswnet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ashro1-36.cswnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newspeer.monmouth.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!news.csw.net!not-for-mail 237astro wrote: > > Dave/Kristin Hall wrote: > > > > Dirk (dirkf@praxis.net) wrote: > > > > : have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . > > : without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear bombs > > : and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. > > > > Nope. Haven't considered it. Got any reason why I should? > > > > -- > > David Hall > > Propulsion Performance Office (Code 4732H0D) > > Naval Air Warfare Center - Weapons Division > > China Lake, CA 93555 > the predictions page at www.cyberview900.com at the bottom of the page > they talk about death that it is predicable and the we are all in one so > there no end to the world.we are the world. Isn't there supposed to be a "drink Coke" line in there someplace???? Cheers.... (:->))= -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ //\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\\ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ / Don \/ tazman@cswnet.com \/ Parker \ ( "If you can't eat it, have fun, or make money - the hell with it" ) \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ me: "I have a mind like a Steel Trap" wife: "Yeh - old, warped, empty, and rusted shut" ###### From: "m. culligan" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.urban,alt.life.afterlife Subject: Re: End of the World Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 01:21:45 +0100 Organization: V&M CULLIGAN Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1KFeNDAZIL41Ewa$@mcb.net> References: <35c818ed.15694762@news.uoregon.edu> <6r9clk$atl$1@supernews.com> <6ra3kp$akf$2@ash.ridgecrest.ca.us> <35DDF4A7.5A9F@concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: m-thomas.mcb.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: mannet.mcb.net 903918305 1735 195.10.96.178 (24 Aug 1998 00:25:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@mannet.mcb.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Aug 1998 00:25:05 GMT X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.04 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!peer.news.th.u-net.net!u-net!news.netkonect.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!news-sender.satin.net!backpost.satin.net!news.mcb.net!mcb.net!m-thomas I read from his newsgroup and all it was interested in was money ie lottery etc surely this is not the meaning of life?In article <35DDF4A7. 5A9F@concentric.net>, 237astro <237astro@concentric.net> writes >Dave/Kristin Hall wrote: >> >> Dirk (dirkf@praxis.net) wrote: >> >> : have you considered it possible that the end of "this world" may come . . . >> : without any kind of divine intervention? . . . I don't mean by nuclear bombs >> : and such, I mean, . . . . "world" will destroy itself from the inside out. >> >> Nope. Haven't considered it. Got any reason why I should? >> >> -- >> David Hall >> Propulsion Performance Office (Code 4732H0D) >> Naval Air Warfare Center - Weapons Division >> China Lake, CA 93555 >the predictions page at www.cyberview900.com at the bottom of the page >they talk about death that it is predicable and the we are all in one so >there no end to the world.we are the world. -- m. culligan