Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!europa.clark.net!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!gatech!131.144.4.21.MISMATCH!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!cronkite.cc.uga.edu!cronkite.cc.uga.edu From: "Michael A. Covington" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:41:17 -0400 Organization: The University of Georgia Lines: 21 Message-ID: <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: aiws2.ai.uga.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I have a card made by IBM for the PC (8-bit ISA bus) around 1987 (to judge from the date codes). It's full length and has a single 9-pin socket (just like a CGA, MDA, or EGA). On it are two EPROMs (copyright IBM), a couple of large Oki and Motorola chips, and a number of other chips under large heat sinks. It's covered with a pattern of tinned squares like I've never seen before. (Anti-RFI measure?) What is it? Is it a Professional Graphics Adapter by any chance? Or a network card? Or what? -- Michael A. Covington http://www.ai.uga.edu/~mc Associate Director, Artificial Intelligence Center, and Chairman, Computer Security Incident Handling Team The University of Georgia <>< ###### From: "Chris Swearingen" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers References: <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:45:37 -0500 Lines: 25 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.94.162.11 Message-ID: <3560b96c.0@news6.kcdata.com> Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!news9.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.kcdata.com!news6.kcdata.com!209.94.162.11 Or maybe junk? Michael A. Covington wrote in message <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu>... >I have a card made by IBM for the PC (8-bit ISA bus) around 1987 (to judge >from the date codes). It's full length and has a single 9-pin socket (just >like a CGA, MDA, or EGA). > >On it are two EPROMs (copyright IBM), a couple of large Oki and Motorola >chips, and a number of other chips under large heat sinks. > >It's covered with a pattern of tinned squares like I've never seen before. >(Anti-RFI measure?) > >What is it? Is it a Professional Graphics Adapter by any chance? Or a >network card? Or what? > >-- > >Michael A. Covington http://www.ai.uga.edu/~mc >Associate Director, Artificial Intelligence Center, and >Chairman, Computer Security Incident Handling Team >The University of Georgia <>< > > ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!tivoli.tivoli.com!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: glass2@glass2.cv.lexington.ibm.com Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: 18 May 1998 21:31:52 GMT Organization: IBM Austin Message-ID: <6jq9c8$2gh8$1@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> References: <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu> Reply-To: wa4qal@vnet.ibm.com NNTP-Posting-Host: glass2.cv.lexington.ibm.com X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Lines: 39 In <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu>, "Michael A. Covington" writes: >I have a card made by IBM for the PC (8-bit ISA bus) around 1987 (to judge >from the date codes). It's full length and has a single 9-pin socket (just >like a CGA, MDA, or EGA). > >On it are two EPROMs (copyright IBM), a couple of large Oki and Motorola >chips, and a number of other chips under large heat sinks. > >It's covered with a pattern of tinned squares like I've never seen before. >(Anti-RFI measure?) > >What is it? Is it a Professional Graphics Adapter by any chance? Or a >network card? Or what? > >-- > >Michael A. Covington http://www.ai.uga.edu/~mc >Associate Director, Artificial Intelligence Center, and >Chairman, Computer Security Incident Handling Team >The University of Georgia <>< > > Does it have a part number on it? That might help to identify it. What are some of the numbers on some of the chips? Is the Motorola chip a 6845 CRT controller? It doesn't sound like a Professional Graphics Adapter, since, as best as I remember, the PGA was a pair of cards bolted together (and, I seem to remember that the PGA had a 80286 processor on it, although I'm VERY fuzzy about the details). It could be a Token Ring card. Some of the IBM token ring cards use 9 pin connectors. Dave P.S. Standard disclaimer: I work for them, but I don't speak for them. ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!p850ug1.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: 18 May 1998 22:40:05 +0100 Organization: P850 User Group Message-ID: <6jq9rl$1n2@p850ug1.demon.co.uk> References: <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: p850ug1.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: p850ug1.demon.co.uk:158.152.97.199 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 895534216 nnrp-05:15835 NO-IDENT p850ug1.demon.co.uk:158.152.97.199 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 29 Michael A. Covington (mc@ai.uga.edu) wrote: : I have a card made by IBM for the PC (8-bit ISA bus) around 1987 (to judge : from the date codes). It's full length and has a single 9-pin socket (just : like a CGA, MDA, or EGA). : On it are two EPROMs (copyright IBM), a couple of large Oki and Motorola : chips, and a number of other chips under large heat sinks. : It's covered with a pattern of tinned squares like I've never seen before. : (Anti-RFI measure?) : What is it? Is it a Professional Graphics Adapter by any chance? Or a : network card? Or what? It's not the Professional Graphics Adapter. That device is 3 stacked cards and tales up 2 adjacent slots in a PC/XT or PC/AT. I have the techref for that here (although I've never seen the card, and I'm looking for one...) If I had to guess without seeing it, I'd say your card was possibly a token ring adapter of some kind. : -- : Michael A. Covington http://www.ai.uga.edu/~mc -tony ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!Ireland.EU.net!not-for-mail From: awhite@aritech.ie (Andrew White) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:16:42 GMT Organization: EUnet Ireland customer Lines: 24 Message-ID: <35624d69.827930@192.168.1.2> References: <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.120.11.96 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 On Mon, 18 May 1998 16:41:17 -0400, "Michael A. Covington" wrote: >I have a card made by IBM for the PC (8-bit ISA bus) around 1987 (to judge >from the date codes). It's full length and has a single 9-pin socket (just >like a CGA, MDA, or EGA). > >On it are two EPROMs (copyright IBM), a couple of large Oki and Motorola >chips, and a number of other chips under large heat sinks. > >It's covered with a pattern of tinned squares like I've never seen before. >(Anti-RFI measure?) > >What is it? Is it a Professional Graphics Adapter by any chance? Or a >network card? Or what? FWIW, the two (c) IBM EPROMS strongly suggest to me it's a token ring network card ...the (c) software was probably Netbios, which originally existed in rom. Also I have a very faint memory of seeing two IBM token ring cards with the heatsink and tinned squares configuration. HTH. Later, Andrew White ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!btnet-peer!btnet!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!drspc.demon.co.uk!david From: David Skinner Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:35:14 +0100 Organization: Home Message-ID: References: <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: drspc.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: drspc.demon.co.uk:158.152.18.60 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 895685768 nnrp-04:23404 NO-IDENT drspc.demon.co.uk:158.152.18.60 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Lines: 34 Sounds like a Token Ring to me. I've got a few half-length cards at work that exhibit a similar pattern of tinned squares, and have 2 EPROMS and big silver-heatsinked chips. IBM often identifies its T.R. cards with a green circular label on the bit that sicks out the back. If the label has "16/4" written in it then it's *definitely* a T.R. card. In article <6jq6dm$r6m$1@cronkite.cc.uga.edu>, Michael A. Covington writes >I have a card made by IBM for the PC (8-bit ISA bus) around 1987 (to judge >from the date codes). It's full length and has a single 9-pin socket (just >like a CGA, MDA, or EGA). > >On it are two EPROMs (copyright IBM), a couple of large Oki and Motorola >chips, and a number of other chips under large heat sinks. > >It's covered with a pattern of tinned squares like I've never seen before. >(Anti-RFI measure?) > >What is it? Is it a Professional Graphics Adapter by any chance? Or a >network card? Or what? > >-- > >Michael A. Covington http://www.ai.uga.edu/~mc >Associate Director, Artificial Intelligence Center, and >Chairman, Computer Security Incident Handling Team >The University of Georgia <>< > > -- David Skinner ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!btnet-peer!btnet-feed1!btnet!peer.news.zetnet.net!zetnet.co.uk!not-for-mail From: lisard@zetnet.co.uk Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: 20 May 1998 19:43:25 GMT Lines: 11 Message-ID: <6jvbot$ahl$1@irk.zetnet.co.uk> References: <6jq9c8$2gh8$1@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: man-106.dialup.zetnet.co.uk X-Trace: irk.zetnet.co.uk 895693405 10805 194.247.40.136 (20 May 1998 19:43:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 May 1998 19:43:25 GMT X-Everything: Net-Tamer V 1.08X On 1998-05-18 wa4qal@vnet.ibm.com said: :(and, I seem to remember that the PGA had a 80286 processor on it, :although I'm VERY fuzzy about the details). it had an 8088 on it, and it could do 640x480. unfortunately, it did cost, and never took off (a shame, really). -- Communa (together) we remember... we'll see you falling you know soft spoken changes nothing to sing within her... ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed.lightning.net!newshost.comco.com!mrbill From: mrbill@frenzy.com (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: 21 May 1998 05:21:35 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <6jq9c8$2gh8$1@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> <6jvbot$ahl$1@irk.zetnet.co.uk> Reply-To: mrbill@frenzy.com NNTP-Posting-Host: feeding.frenzy.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.4.3 UNIX) On 20 May 1998 19:43:25 GMT, lisard@zetnet.co.uk wrote: >On 1998-05-18 wa4qal@vnet.ibm.com said: > :(and, I seem to remember that the PGA had a 80286 processor on it, > :although I'm VERY fuzzy about the details). >it had an 8088 on it, and it could do 640x480. unfortunately, it did >cost, and never took off (a shame, really). Does anybody happen to know the specs of the 8514/A monitor? I'm getting a 7554 (IBM Industrial Graphics Display, 20") soon; supposedly its just a bigger 8514/a monitor. I"d like to know what settings I'll be able to use it under on my FreeBSD box. -- Bill Bradford * mrbill@frenzy.com ------------------------------------------- "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler ###### Path: ccw.ch!usenet From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Name That Card (IBM PC, vintage 1987, video card??) Date: 21 May 1998 14:58:36 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 23 Message-ID: <7m3f6arn.fsf@chonsp.franklin.lugs.ch> References: <6jq9c8$2gh8$1@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> <6jvbot$ahl$1@irk.zetnet.co.uk>Reply-To: mrbill@frenzy.co X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 mrbill@frenzy.com (Bill Bradford) asked us: > Does anybody happen to know the specs of the 8514/A monitor? I'm getting > a 7554 (IBM Industrial Graphics Display, 20") soon; supposedly its > just a bigger 8514/a monitor. I"d like to know what settings I'll be > able to use it under on my FreeBSD box. 8514/a (according to c't May 1989, page 276): Resolut: 1024x768 Pixel: 44.9 MHz Horiz: 35.5 kHz Verti: 43.5/78 Hz (interlaced full/half frames) > "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad > "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Great .sig -- private: Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/ office: franklin@arch.ethz.ch.remove http://caad.arch.ethz.ch/~franklin/ WinCE car, crashing soon on a road near you