Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.idt.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!formula1.demon.co.uk!ljw From: Lawrence Wilkinson Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: "... but when nothing more can be removed." Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:06:33 +0100 Organization: Home Message-ID: <2hIWCDA5qfV1EwwW@formula1.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.demon.co.uk:158.152.54.200 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 894833264 nnrp-09:15556 NO-IDENT formula1.demon.co.uk:158.152.54.200 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike (16) Version 3.05 Lines: 20 Can someone come up with the attribution, and perhaps the correct phrasing, for a quote along the lines of: "The job is complete not when nothing more can be added, but when nothing more can be removed." I must have got it from a programming/SW engineering book somewhere. And, in return, here is one that me be of interest: "It may be laid down as a principle that it is never worth the trouble of trying any inscrutable cypher, unless the author has himself decyphered some very difficult cypher" - Charles Babbage c.1854 (From Garry Tee's review of "Mr Babbage's secret : the tale of a cypher - and APL" by Ole Franksen) -- Lawrence Wilkinson ljw@formula1.demon.co.uk The GirlFrendo homepage: http://www.formula1.demon.co.uk/girlfrendo/ "You've got the brains, or so you say, maybe you see things another way"-bis ###### Path: ccw.ch!usenet From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: "... but when nothing more can be removed." Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:33:19 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 16 Message-ID: <35577CAF.893B510F@ccw.ch.remove> References: <2hIWCDA5qfV1EwwW@formula1.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i486) Lawrence Wilkinson wrote: > > "The job is complete not when nothing more can be added, but when > nothing more can be removed." > > I must have got it from a programming/SW engineering book somewhere. The one I have with source is: Perfection is not when nothing is left to add, but when nothing is left to take away - Antoine de Saint Exupery, early aviator. -- private: Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/ office: franklin@arch.ethz.ch.remove http://caad.arch.ethz.ch/~franklin/ Lawyers are killing society, perhaps we should return the favour. ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!newsfeed.ed.ac.uk!holyrood!st From: st@holyrood.ed.ac.uk (S Telford) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: "... but when nothing more can be removed." Date: 12 May 1998 08:29:31 GMT Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre, University of Edinburgh, UK. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <6j919b$kko@scotsman.ed.ac.uk> References: <2hIWCDA5qfV1EwwW@formula1.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: holyrood.ed.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lawrence Wilkinson (ljw@formula1.demon.co.uk) wrote: > Can someone come up with the attribution, and perhaps the correct > phrasing, for a quote along the lines of: > "The job is complete not when nothing more can be added, but when > nothing more can be removed." > I must have got it from a programming/SW engineering book somewhere. Sounds like Antoine de Saint-Exupery: "Perfection is reached not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away." -- Scott Telford Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre "Every worthwhile creation is at University of Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK. once an act of love, and an act st@holyrood.ed.ac.uk +44 131 650 5978 of violence." - G Pascal Zachary ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers From: ehrice@his.com (Edward Rice) Subject: Re: "... but when nothing more can be removed." Message-ID: Organization: NDS Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:20:18 -0400 References: <2hIWCDA5qfV1EwwW@formula1.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm5-110.his.com Lines: 12 X-Authenticated-User: ehrice Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!209.130.129.214!nntp.frontiernet.net!205.252.121.18.MISMATCH!news4.his.com!user In article <2hIWCDA5qfV1EwwW@formula1.demon.co.uk>, Lawrence Wilkinson wrote: > "The job is complete not when nothing more can be added, but when > nothing more can be removed." > > I must have got it from a programming/SW engineering book somewhere. Sounds like Frederick Brooks, "The Mythical Man-Month." ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!feed1.news.luth.se!luth.se!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!jorn From: jorn@mcs.com (Jorn Barger) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: "... but when nothing more can be removed." Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 14:26:25 -0500 Organization: The Responsible Party (conservative left) Lines: 29 Message-ID: <1d94kg7.13cy6ty3c4fw5N@jorn.pr.mcs.net> References: <2hIWCDA5qfV1EwwW@formula1.demon.co.uk> <6j919b$kko@scotsman.ed.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: jorn.pr.mcs.net X-Face: #0%K`N$`(&&tLbyv~^Ip59&CqKAo;?NXix@bv2a,uQX;y*zAek26=&iDOJou, 2\2pLI"TKqjx.[BfZf#2 wrote: > Lawrence Wilkinson (ljw@formula1.demon.co.uk) wrote: > > Can someone come up with the attribution, and perhaps the correct > > phrasing, for a quote along the lines of: > > > "The job is complete not when nothing more can be added, but when > > nothing more can be removed." > > > I must have got it from a programming/SW engineering book somewhere. > > Sounds like Antoine de Saint-Exupery: > > "Perfection is reached not when there is no longer anything to add, but > when there is no longer anything to take away." A NYT article on Susan Kare, designer of the Mac 'look' also says: "Much of what she does when asked to give a program a face lift, she said, is *take away elements* rather than add them." See: j -- I EDIT THE NET: "In human stupidity, when it is not malicious, there is something very touching, even beautiful... There always is." --Leo Tolstoy ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.he.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: TonyLima@ms.spacebbs.com (Tony Lima) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: "... but when nothing more can be removed." Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 18:13:58 GMT Organization: Nope, none Lines: 20 Message-ID: <355fd714.14574183@news.spacebbs.com> References: <2hIWCDA5qfV1EwwW@formula1.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: TonyLima@ms.spacebbs.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.204.228.52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 895342789 ON.7SG/MSE434CFCCC usenet88.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 On Sun, 10 May 1998 20:06:33 +0100, Lawrence Wilkinson wrote: >Can someone come up with the attribution, and perhaps the correct >phrasing, for a quote along the lines of: > >"The job is complete not when nothing more can be added, but when >nothing more can be removed." > >I must have got it from a programming/SW engineering book somewhere. [snip] A friend used to use the following as his .sig. Unfortunately, I can't find a message from him that includes this little goody, so I'm forced to paraphrase: The most beautiful objects in the world are those from which all excess weight has been removed. - Henry Ford HTH. - Tony ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.xcom.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-master.cisco.com!not-for-mail From: John Ahlstrom Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: "... but when nothing more can be removed." Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:23:49 -0700 Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <356098D5.15FB7483@cisco.com> References: <2hIWCDA5qfV1EwwW@formula1.demon.co.uk> <355fd714.14574183@news.spacebbs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: swing.cisco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) CC: JAhlstrom Antoine de Saint Exuprey, French aviator and author (The Little Prince) wrote Perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add but when there is no longer anything to take away, Wind, Sand, and Stars, ch. 3 Antoine de Saint-Exupéry (1900-1944) Tony Lima wrote: > > On Sun, 10 May 1998 20:06:33 +0100, Lawrence Wilkinson > wrote: > > >Can someone come up with the attribution, and perhaps the correct > >phrasing, for a quote along the lines of: > > > >"The job is complete not when nothing more can be added, but when > >nothing more can be removed." > > > >I must have got it from a programming/SW engineering book somewhere. > [snip] > > A friend used to use the following as his .sig. > Unfortunately, I can't find a message from him that includes > this little goody, so I'm forced to paraphrase: > > The most beautiful objects in the world are those from which > all excess weight has been removed. - Henry Ford > > HTH. - Tony -- Do something small, useful now.