From: cknight@mgate.metricom.com (Chris Knight) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Stroustrup IEEE Computer interview...folklore? (long) Date: 16 Feb 1998 06:20:56 -0800 Organization: Metricom, Inc. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <6c9i08$hs0$1@mgate.metricom.com> References: <6c2a4o$n8$1@mgate.metricom.com> <6c4m42$mk5@freenet-news.carleton.ca> <6c5t9h$ons$2@hades.csu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 3634@204.179.107.4 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail All: What *evidence* do you have that this is a ruse? Is it a ruse on Stroustrup's part, or the message's author? ###### From: cknight@mgate.metricom.com (Chris Knight) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Stroustrup IEEE Computer interview...folklore? (long) Date: 18 Feb 1998 08:27:15 -0800 Organization: Metricom, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <6cf253$qbv$1@mgate.metricom.com> References: <6c2a4o$n8$1@mgate.metricom.com> <6c4m42$mk5@freenet-news.carleton.ca> <6c5t9h$ons$2@hades.csu.net> <6c9i08$hs0$1@mgate.metricom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 7551@204.179.107.4 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!newsfeed.wli.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail cknight@mgate.metricom.com (Chris Knight) says: >All: What *evidence* do you have that this is a ruse? Is it a ruse on >Stroustrup's part, or the message's author? A friend sent e-mail to Stroustrup and got this (automated) response: >From bs@research.att.com Fri Feb 13 18:57:21 1998 >Date: Fri, 13 Feb EST 20:57:23 -0500 (EST) >From: bs@day.research.att.com >Message-Id: <199802140157.UAA25164@postal.research.att.com> > >Sorry to send you a form letter, but I have received 30 copies of that >"IEEE interview" hoax in a week. Yes, it is a hoax. No, it is not a hoax >by me; had it been, it would have been less crude and more funny. > >If you want genuine information about C++, see my articles and books. >You can find references, some articles, and even a couple of genuine >interviews on my homepages. > > - Bjarne > > Bjarne Stroustrup, AT&T Labs, http://www.research.att.com/~bs Can someone who maintains the various FAQ's include this? ###### Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Stroustrup IEEE Computer interview...folklore? (long) References: <6c2a4o$n8$1@mgate.metricom.com> <6c5t9h$ons$2@hades.csu.net> <6c9i08$hs0$1@mgate.metricom.com> <6cf253$qbv$1@mgate.metricom.com> Organization: Plethora Internet X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test60 (5 October 1997) From: seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach) Lines: 19 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:26:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: herd.plethora.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:26:07 CST Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!ais.net!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!ptah.visi.com!not-for-mail In article <6cf253$qbv$1@mgate.metricom.com>, Chris Knight wrote: >Can someone who maintains the various FAQ's include this? Why? He's obviously got no sense of humor about it. Did you see Dennis Ritchie complaining about the "crudeness" of "Creators admit UNIX, C hoax"? Say what you will about the languages, but, rating them on ability to laugh at their own mistakes, dmr is far, far ahead. -s -- Copyright '98, All rights reserved. Peter Seebach / seebs@plethora.net C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter. Boycott Spamazon! Not speaking for my employer. Questions on C/Unix? Send mail for help. Visit my new ISP --- More Net, Less Spam! ###### From: genew@vip.net (Gene Wirchenko) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Stroustrup IEEE Computer interview...folklore? (long) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:40:09 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 22 Message-ID: <34ede74a.6809151@news.vip.net> References: <6c2a4o$n8$1@mgate.metricom.com> <6c5t9h$ons$2@hades.csu.net> <6c9i08$hs0$1@mgate.metricom.com> <6cf253$qbv$1@mgate.metricom.com> Reply-To: genew@vip.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 7217@204.209.212.31 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!newsfeed.wli.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach) wrote: >In article <6cf253$qbv$1@mgate.metricom.com>, >Chris Knight wrote: >>Can someone who maintains the various FAQ's include this? > >Why? He's obviously got no sense of humor about it. Did you see Dennis >Ritchie complaining about the "crudeness" of "Creators admit UNIX, C hoax"? No, I didn't. Maybe, it would even be on-topic to post it. Is it on par with "Why Pascal Is Not My Favorite Programming Language"? >Say what you will about the languages, but, rating them on ability to laugh >at their own mistakes, dmr is far, far ahead. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko C Pronunciation Guide: y=x++; "wye equals ex plus plus semicolon" x=x++; "ex equals ex doublecross semicolon" ###### Path: ccw.ch!usenet From: Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Stroustrup IEEE Computer interview...folklore? (long) Date: 21 Feb 1998 19:55:47 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <6c2a4o$n8$1@mgate.metricom.com> <6c5t9h$ons$2@hades.csu.net> <6c9i08$hs0$1@mgate.metricom.com> <6cf253$qbv$1@mgate.metricom.com> Reply-To: genew@vip.net <34ede74a.6809151@news.vip.net> X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 genew@vip.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: > No, I didn't. Maybe, it would even be on-topic to post it. Is > it on par with "Why Pascal Is Not My Favorite Programming Language"? No need to post it. I have webbed it at: http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/Jokes_and_Fun/Stroustrup_Admits_C++_Joke -- private: Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch, http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/ for Geek Code, Papernet, Voicenet, PGP public key see http: office: franklin.remove.this@arch.ethz.ch I don't like it Microsoft, I like it Megahard If I go missing, its once again my newsfeed that has craped ###### interview moved to: http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/19980216_Stroustrup_IEEE_Computer_interview_folklore home page generally moved to: http://neil.franklin.ch/ ###### From: lisard@zetnet.co.uk Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Stroustrup IEEE Computer interview...folklore? (long) Date: 22 Feb 1998 00:28:56 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6cnrg8$3us$2@irk.zetnet.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: man-188.dialup.zetnet.co.uk X-Everything: Net-Tamer V 1.08X Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!btnet-peer!btnet-feed1!btnet!peer.news.zetnet.net!zetnet.co.uk!not-for-mail On 1998-02-21 6c2a4o$n8$1@mgate.metricom.com said: :Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers :genew@vip.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: :> No, I didn't. Maybe, it would even be on-topic to post it. :>Is it on par with "Why Pascal Is Not My Favorite Programming :>Language"? :No need to post it. I have webbed it at: :http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/Jokes_and_Fun/Stroustrup_Admits_C++_Joke don't suppose you have the "Charles Moore Admits Forth Joke" article there too, do you...? that, we'd like to read again :> -- Communa (together) we remember... we'll see you falling you know soft spoken changes nothing to sing within her... Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive ###### Path: ccw.ch!usenet From: Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Stroustrup IEEE Computer interview...folklore? (long) Date: 22 Feb 1998 20:09:32 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 40 Message-ID: <3ehba237.fsf@chonsp.franklin.lugs.ch> References: <6cnrg8$3us$2@irk.zetnet.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 genew@vip.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote: > No, I didn't. Maybe, it would even be on-topic to post it. >Is it on par with "Why Pascal Is Not My Favorite Programming >Language"? Neil Franklin wrote: :No need to post it. I have webbed it at: :http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/Jokes_and_Fun/Stroustrup_Admits_C++_Joke lisard@zetnet.co.uk asked: >don't suppose you have the "Charles Moore Admits Forth Joke" article >there too, do you...? >that, we'd like to read again :> Sorry, no. If anyone has it, mail me a copy and I will Web it immediately. The same applies also to the "Why Pascal is not..." which I haven't yet got a copy of, or any other such classic hacker texts. At the moment you will have to make it with the 370 texts there, including: Bastard Operator From Hell Pournelle kicked off Arpanet Canonical List of Opcodes That ought to Exist Real Programmers don't Write Pascal Stroustrup Interview Admits that C++ was a Joke Tao of Programming Wisdom The Canonical List of Error Messages Unix and C are a Hoax Bill Gates goes to Heaven, Hell for him Windows NT Meaning Collecting Old Iron DEC Wars I Hate Computers -- private: Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch, http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/ for Geek Code, Papernet, Voicenet, PGP public key see http: office: franklin.remove.this@arch.ethz.ch I don't like it Microsoft, I like it Megahard If I go missing, its once again my newsfeed that has craped