From: JES@statoil.no Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Bell Labs Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 13:21:10 +0100 Organization: Statoil Lines: 5 Message-ID: <348D37B6.662D@statoil.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.11.7.56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win94; I) Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!atl-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!uninett.no!online.no!statoil.no!usenet Does anybody have info on Bell Labs and their study on alien wreckidge from Roswell? C-YA JES ###### From: shokwave@well.com (Rob Hafernik) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 10:22:21 -0600 Organization: Shokwave Software, Inc Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <348D37B6.662D@statoil.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: as3-dialup-04.wc-aus.io.com X-Trace: nntp-3.io.com 881684467 8431 (None) 206.224.81.96 X-Complaints-To: usenet@io.com X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!news-xfer.siscom.net!streamer1.cleveland.iagnet.net!131.103.1.115!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!nntp.texas.net!news.io.com!as3-dialup-04.wc-aus.io.com!user In article <348D37B6.662D@statoil.no>, JES@statoil.no wrote: > Does anybody have info on Bell Labs and their study on alien wreckidge > from Roswell? > > C-YA > JES Yes, not only did they study wreckidge (sic) from Roswell, but the military was actually able to boot some of the surviving alien computers. Since Bell Labs had extensive capabilities in computer analysis, the alien computers were sent there. The Bell Labs research team was evidently lead by "Brian ___" (his last name has been blotted out in the records) and D.M. Ritchie. After much secret analysis, they were able to determine that the alien computers used a language that was in it's third generation. Since they couldn't pronounce the alien tongue, the researchers just called the generations A, B and C. The third and final generation of the language, the "C" language, created much interest among the researchers. It was at once a low-level and a high-level language, very flexible, but with a syntax that was clearly designed for alien minds. After much discussion, it was decided that this alien technology was just too useful to ignore. The researchers secretly decided to PUBLISH the specifications of the C language as if THEY had invented it, rather than the aliens. This way the alien technology could be of use to humans, without the panic that would be caused by admitting that a real extraterrestrial craft had been recovered at Roswell. I suspect this message was just a troll, as the alien nature of the "C" language is known to many. Also the "JES" who posted the message let us know he was in on the conspiracy by using a sig that included the cryptic "C-YA", indicating the he knows full well the result of the analysis of the Roswell craft. ###### From: oooyouooo@aol.com (OooYoUooO) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: 10 Dec 1997 00:59:54 GMT Lines: 6 Message-ID: <19971210005901.TAA00276@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >but the >military was actually able to boot some of the surviving alien computers. >Since Bell Labs had extensive capabilities in computer analysis, the alien >computers were sent there. What processor did the alien computers use? What kind of storage did they have? ###### From: guy@netapp.com (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: 10 Dec 1997 14:21:41 -0800 Organization: Network Appliance Lines: 23 Message-ID: <66n4ll$k3k@tooting.netapp.com> References: <19971210005901.TAA00276@ladder01.news.aol.com> <348EAB1A.423D@statoil.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: tooting.netapp.com Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!netapp.com!netapp.com!not-for-mail >> What processor did the alien computers use? What kind of storage did they >> have? > >Bell Labs are still trying to figure this out, Actually, I think one of the machines was sent to Santa Clara, California in the mid '70's. The people looking at it there discovered that it used a notion of "segmented" storage. Basically, it had four "segment registers"; one referred to code, one to data, one to stack, and the fourth was an "extra" segment register. The "segment registers" specified the starting address in memory of each of those "segments"; the address in the instruction, or the register pointing to the next instruction to be fetched and executed, was added to the starting address in the appropriate "segment register" to get the address to which the instruction referred. I'm not sure if we were able to adapt any of that technology for our own equipment. -- Reply, or follow up, but don't do both, please. postmaster@localhost postmaster@[127.0.0.1] ###### From: vijes8 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:45:46 +0100 Organization: Statoil Lines: 15 Message-ID: <348EAB1A.423D@statoil.no> References: <19971210005901.TAA00276@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.11.7.62 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win94; I) To: OooYoUooO Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!solace!mn6.swip.net!nntp.uio.no!uninett.no!online.no!statoil.no!usenet OooYoUooO wrote: > > >but the > >military was actually able to boot some of the surviving alien computers. > >Since Bell Labs had extensive capabilities in computer analysis, the alien > >computers were sent there. > What processor did the alien computers use? What kind of storage did they > have? Bell Labs are still trying to figure this out, with one recent breaktrough. The processors use some kind of "flat" arrangment. When B.L. figured this out we became able to advanse "our own" micron-tecn. for ten more years at least. -- C-YA JES ###### From: dpeschel@u.washington.edu (D. Peschel) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: 11 Dec 1997 00:12:56 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 16 Message-ID: <66nb68$q4j$1@nntp4.u.washington.edu> References: <19971210005901.TAA00276@ladder01.news.aol.com> <348EAB1A.423D@statoil.no> <66n4ll$k3k@tooting.netapp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: saul2.u.washington.edu X-Trace: nntp4.u.washington.edu 881799176 26771 (None) 140.142.64.4 X-Complaints-To: help@cac.washington.edu NNTP-Posting-User: dpeschel Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.u.washington.edu!dpeschel In article <66n4ll$k3k@tooting.netapp.com>, Guy Harris wrote: >Actually, I think one of the machines was sent to Santa Clara, >California in the mid '70's. The people looking at it there discovered >that it used a notion of "segmented" storage. Basically, it had four >"segment registers"; one referred to code, one to data, one to stack, >and the fourth was an "extra" segment register. >I'm not sure if we were able to adapt any of that technology for our own >equipment. Clearly, the "extra" segment register is used for some weird alien purpose we don't understand... but it's evidently crucial in making the technology work, because our adaptation seems to have been pretty bad. -- Derek ###### From: scottdav@Eng.nospam.COM (Scott Davidson) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: 11 Dec 1997 01:42:17 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <66ngdp$94a$1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <66nb68$q4j$1@nntp4.u.washington.edu> Reply-To: scottdav@Eng.nospam.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: voyager2.eng.sun.com Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.eng.convex.com!newsgate.duke.edu!agate!newsfeed.kornet.nm.kr!xfer.kren.nm.kr!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!not-for-mail As a former employee of both Bell Labs and that unnamed company in Santa Clara I can definitely state that those segment registers were placed here to hold back Earth technology. In article <66n4ll$k3k@tooting.netapp.com>, Guy Harris wrote: > >>Actually, I think one of the machines was sent to Santa Clara, >>California in the mid '70's. The people looking at it there discovered >>that it used a notion of "segmented" storage. Basically, it had four >>"segment registers"; one referred to code, one to data, one to stack, >>and the fourth was an "extra" segment register. > >>I'm not sure if we were able to adapt any of that technology for our own >>equipment. > >Clearly, the "extra" segment register is used for some weird alien purpose we >don't understand... but it's evidently crucial in making the technology work, >because our adaptation seems to have been pretty bad. > >-- Derek --- Scott Davidson ###### From: connorbd@bc.edu (Coach) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:48:11 -0500 Organization: Duchesne Brick and Block Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <19971210005901.TAA00276@ladder01.news.aol.com> <348EAB1A.423D@statoil.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: st202x229.bc.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news.u.washington.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.internetmci.com!136.167.2.7!delphi.bc.edu!connorbd In article <348EAB1A.423D@statoil.no>, vijes8 wrote: >OooYoUooO wrote: >> >> >but the >> >military was actually able to boot some of the surviving alien computers. >> >Since Bell Labs had extensive capabilities in computer analysis, the alien >> >computers were sent there. >> What processor did the alien computers use? What kind of storage did they >> have? > >Bell Labs are still trying to figure this out, with one recent >breaktrough. The processors use some kind of "flat" arrangment. >When B.L. figured this out we became able to advanse "our own" >micron-tecn. for ten more years at least. Doesn't this belong in alt.conspiracy? /Coach -- Brian "Coach" Connors connorbd@bc.edu A proud member of the Killfiled by Cronan Club; go to rec.arts.startrek.current and find out how you can join too! ###### From: rs@redplanet.mars.org.cy (Rotes Sapiens) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:31:11 GMT Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au P/L, Adelaide, Australia Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3494e115.1038027@192.189.54.145> References: <19971210005901.TAA00276@ladder01.news.aol.com> <348EAB1A.423D@statoil.no> <66n4ll$k3k@tooting.netapp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spider25.cobweb.com.au X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.ntr.net!uunet!in5.uu.net!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!not-for-mail On 10 Dec 1997 14:21:41 -0800, guy@netapp.com (Guy Harris) wrote: >>> What processor did the alien computers use? What kind of storage did they >>> have? >>Bell Labs are still trying to figure this out, >Actually, I think one of the machines was sent to Santa Clara, >California in the mid '70's. The people looking at it there discovered >that it used a notion of "segmented" storage. Basically, it had four >"segment registers"; one referred to code, one to data, one to stack, >and the fourth was an "extra" segment register. The "segment registers" >specified the starting address in memory of each of those "segments"; >the address in the instruction, or the register pointing to the next >instruction to be fetched and executed, was added to the starting >address in the appropriate "segment register" to get the address to >which the instruction referred. >I'm not sure if we were able to adapt any of that technology for our own >equipment. Ha ha ha, so you're saying that the reason that the most popular computers available today use a segmented architecture, is that a UFO using this crashed? Like, the UFO using a superior non-segmented arch. didn't crash, and that's why we don't widely use this technology? |-) The five food groups are not beer, pizza, burgers, chips and chocolate. ###### From: "Greg Menke" Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: 17 Dec 1997 02:50:40 GMT Organization: .. Lines: 48 Message-ID: <01bd0a96$ae6552d0$64646464@gregm> References: <19971210005901.TAA00276@ladder01.news.aol.com> <348EAB1A.423D@statoil.no> <66n4ll$k3k@tooting.netapp.com> <3494e115.1038027@192.189.54.145> NNTP-Posting-Host: fdk-as4s36.erols.com X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 882327040 1561 207.172.145.36 (17 Dec 1997 02:50:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@erols.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.eng.convex.com!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!winter.news.erols.com!not-for-mail Actually, the architecture referred to was delivered to this plane by denizens of the underworld- hence the often heard phrase, "This thing is from hell!" We may be assured that the aliens don't run Windows, they probably use OS/2 or Linux instead. ;) Rotes Sapiens wrote in article <3494e115.1038027@192.189.54.145>... > On 10 Dec 1997 14:21:41 -0800, guy@netapp.com (Guy Harris) wrote: > > >>> What processor did the alien computers use? What kind of storage did they > >>> have? > > >>Bell Labs are still trying to figure this out, > > >Actually, I think one of the machines was sent to Santa Clara, > >California in the mid '70's. The people looking at it there discovered > >that it used a notion of "segmented" storage. Basically, it had four > >"segment registers"; one referred to code, one to data, one to stack, > >and the fourth was an "extra" segment register. The "segment registers" > >specified the starting address in memory of each of those "segments"; > >the address in the instruction, or the register pointing to the next > >instruction to be fetched and executed, was added to the starting > >address in the appropriate "segment register" to get the address to > >which the instruction referred. > > >I'm not sure if we were able to adapt any of that technology for our own > >equipment. > > Ha ha ha, so you're saying that the reason that the most popular > computers available today use a segmented architecture, is that a UFO > using this crashed? Like, the UFO using a superior non-segmented > arch. didn't crash, and that's why we don't widely use this > technology? |-) > > > The five food groups are not beer, pizza, burgers, chips and > chocolate. > > ###### From: Robert Billing Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Bell Labs Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 08:35:43 GMT Message-ID: <882347743snz@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> References: <19971210005901.TAA00276@ladder01.news.aol.com> <348EAB1A.423D@statoil.no> <66n4ll$k3k@tooting.netapp.com> <3494e115.1038027@192.189.54.145> <01bd0a96$ae6552d0$64646464@gregm> Reply-To: unclebob@tnglwood.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-User: unclebob@tnglwood.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: post-10.mail.demon.net!post.mail.demon.net!tnglwood.demon.co.uk X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 882353626 28140 unclebob tnglwood.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 Lines: 26 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!tnglwood.demon.co.uk!unclebob In article <01bd0a96$ae6552d0$64646464@gregm> NOSPAM@erols.com "Greg Menke" writes: > We may be assured that the aliens don't run Windows, they probably use OS/2 > or Linux instead. Well, the ones running Linux are the ones that didn't crash as Rosewell, which is why we didn't get it until years later. This implies that at least one copy has travelled back in time, and that if you put out a saucer of cheese and anchovies to attract the aliens you may be able to trade with them and obtain release 10 of the kernel. This puts me in mind of the quantum mechanical explanation of how Santa gets round all those chimneys in one night. He simply increases Planck's constant until the sleigh becomes a standing wave with an antinode in each child's bedroom, then drops the presents all at once. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover, I live near 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock phasers on the Heffalump, Piglet, meet me in transporter room three"