From: "palmer666" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Ascii art from 1865 Lines: 72 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:28:16 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.254.76.63 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news6-win.server.ntlworld.com 1012548280 62.254.76.63 (Fri, 01 Feb 2002 07:24:40 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 07:24:40 GMT Organization: ntlworld News Service Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!lon1-news.nildram.net!peernews!peer.cwci.net!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news6-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27503 Whilst flipping the pages of a very, very old copy of Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Caroll (first published in 1865), I came upon a very example of early of ascii art. I have tried to reproduce it below as accurately as I can although it cannot be an exact copy because the printed version used font size that decreased gradually down the page. ======================================================== 'It is a long tail, certainly said Alice, looking down with wonder at the Mouse's tail; 'but why do you call it sad?' And she kept on puzzling about it while the Mouse was speaking, so that her idea of the tale was something like this:- 'Fury said to a mouse, That he met in the house, "Let us both go to law: I will prosec- cute you -- Come, I'll take no de- nial: We must have the trial; For really this morn- ing I've nothing to do." Said the mouse to the cur, "Such a trial, dear sir, With no jury or judge, would be wast- ing our breath." "I'll be judge, I'll be jury," said cun- ning old Fury; "I'll try the whole cause, and con- demn you to death" ======================================================== -- ##### Sir Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, Stephen Hawkings and now.. #### _\_ ##~~<#)#) david.666palmer@ntlworld.com #( _\ # __| http://homepage.ntlworld.com/palmer666 \___/ _.-'==='-._ Ascii art, it's not a hobby - it's an obsession. ###### From: "Sam Blanning" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Ascii art from 1865 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:42:37 -0000 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-189.antelope.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 1012548961 180 217.134.16.189 (1 Feb 2002 07:36:01 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Feb 2002 07:36:01 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27511 "palmer666" wrote in message news:Yor68.6427$sU.1045191@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com... > Whilst flipping the pages of a very, very old copy of Alice in Wonderland > by Lewis Caroll (first published in 1865), I came upon a very example of > early of ascii art. I have tried to reproduce it below as accurately as I > can although it cannot be an exact copy because the printed version used > font size that decreased gradually down the page. > 8<-----poetry snipped------>8 Technically, that's not ASCII art. That's some form of poetry. I can't remember what it's called, but someone else will surely know. There are many other examples of poetry written in the form of a picture. Unfortunately I can't remember any that I could put a title or a theme to. ###### From: "David Palmer" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art References: Subject: Re: Ascii art from 1865 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:59:45 -0000 Lines: 33 Organization: Sarcastic-bastards-R-Us X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.97.193.222 Message-ID: <3c5a588b@runswick.octacon.co.uk> X-Trace: 1 Feb 2002 08:57:47 GMT, 195.97.193.222 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onyx.net X-NNTP-Service: nntp.onyx.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!isdnet!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet-peer!btnet!runswick.octacon.co.uk Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27524 "Sam Blanning" wrote in message news:a3dgh1$5k$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... > > "palmer666" wrote in message > news:Yor68.6427$sU.1045191@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com... > > Whilst flipping the pages of a very, very old copy of Alice in Wonderland > > by Lewis Caroll (first published in 1865), I came upon a very example of > > early of ascii art. I have tried to reproduce it below as accurately as I > > can although it cannot be an exact copy because the printed version used > > font size that decreased gradually down the page. > > > 8<-----poetry snipped------>8 > > Technically, that's not ASCII art. That's some form of poetry. I can't > remember what it's called, but someone else will surely know. There are many > other examples of poetry written in the form of a picture. Unfortunately I > can't remember any that I could put a title or a theme to. > > I disagree Sam. I say it is ascii art. It is a caligram. I choose to ignore distinctions between various type of text art such as line, solid etc. I spent all that time carefully re-typing Lewis Caroll's work and then when looking for examples of caligrams to make my point I found that it had already been done http://www.geocities.com/joan_stark/textasciihistory.txt Joan Stark was there first. ###### From: Benjamin M. Weiland Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Ascii art from 1865 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:12:33 +0100 Lines: 89 Message-ID: <0bmk5uk974edvvc1dcm88roev1a4325m6k@4ax.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pd955d303.dip.t-dialin.net (217.85.211.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1012554749 41620568 217.85.211.3 (16 [7648]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!423047!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!pd955d303.dip.t-dialin.NET!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27557 "Sam Blanning" wrote: >Technically, that's not ASCII art. That's some form of poetry. I can't >remember what it's called, but someone else will surely know. In this relationship I heard of the term "visual poetry", might be the one you were looking for. >There are many >other examples of poetry written in the form of a picture. Unfortunately I >can't remember any that I could put a title or a theme to. I collected some German ones, here's my attempt to translate them: EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide Ebbs TideTideTideTideTide EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs Tide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide Ebbs TideTideTideTideTide EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs Tide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide Ebbs TideTideTideTideTide EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs Tide EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide Ebbs TideTideTideTideTide EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide Nah - the following doesn't look good when it's translated. The phrase "Die Zeit verrinnt" means "Time goes by", "Tempus fugit". Die Zeit verrinnt Die Zeit verrinnt Die Zeit verrinnt Die Zeit verrinnt Die Zeit verrin Die Zeit verr Die Zeit ve Die Zeit Die Zei Die Z Die D i e Z e i t v e Dri eitrZDe ntitiinevtr eiDtrZinnDentiZi ieDiviDvnrZDntrti reeiZetrtvinZeZet ntvDvnriZDedivrrZ DnZtvenntrZrnteie iviDvnrZvntrtiieD And i made one my own, some months ago. It's german, too. http://www.abiteuer.de/temp/truegerischewahrheit.txt The big white letters spell out "Wahrheit", which means "thruth". It is made out of the word "Luege" (sorry, the umlaut ue is not ascii char), which means "lie". benjamin ###### From: Jeremy C B Nicoll Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Ascii art from 1865 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 09:29:45 +0000 (GMT) Organization: None - home Message-ID: <4b01e6eda7Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: omba.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: omba.demon.co.uk:158.152.58.5 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1012557570 nnrp-10:15084 NO-IDENT omba.demon.co.uk:158.152.58.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net User-Agent: Pluto/2.03a (RISC-OS/3.70) Lines: 14 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!77722!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!omba.demon.co.uk!Jeremy Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27530 In article , Sam Blanning wrote: > Technically, that's not ASCII art. That's some form of poetry. I can't > remember what it's called, but someone else will surely know. There are > many other examples of poetry written in the form of a picture. > Unfortunately I can't remember any that I could put a title or a theme > to. "Concrete", I think. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ###### From: "David Palmer" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art References: <0bmk5uk974edvvc1dcm88roev1a4325m6k@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Ascii art from 1865 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:04:32 -0000 Lines: 125 Organization: Sarcastic-bastards-R-Us X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.176.69.166 Message-ID: <3c5a83da$1@runswick.octacon.co.uk> X-Trace: 1 Feb 2002 12:02:34 GMT, 194.176.69.166 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onyx.net X-NNTP-Service: nntp.onyx.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!btnet-peer!btnet!runswick.octacon.co.uk Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27529 "Benjamin M. Weiland" wrote in message news:0bmk5uk974edvvc1dcm88roev1a4325m6k@4ax.com... > "Sam Blanning" wrote: > > >Technically, that's not ASCII art. That's some form of poetry. I can't > >remember what it's called, but someone else will surely know. > > In this relationship I heard of the term "visual poetry", might be the > one you were looking for. > > >There are many > >other examples of poetry written in the form of a picture. Unfortunately I > >can't remember any that I could put a title or a theme to. > > I collected some German ones, here's my attempt to translate them: > > EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide > EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide > Ebbs TideTideTideTideTide > EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs Tide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide > EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide > Ebbs TideTideTideTideTide > EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs Tide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide > EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide > Ebbs TideTideTideTideTide > EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs Tide > EbbsEbbsEbbsEbbs TideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide > EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide > Ebbs TideTideTideTideTide > EbbsEbbs TideTideTideTide > EbbsEbbsEbbs TideTideTide > > > Nah - the following doesn't look good when it's translated. The phrase > "Die Zeit verrinnt" means "Time goes by", "Tempus fugit". > > > Die Zeit verrinnt > Die Zeit verrinnt > Die Zeit verrinnt > Die Zeit verrinnt > Die Zeit verrin > Die Zeit verr > Die Zeit ve > Die Zeit > Die Zei > Die Z > Die > D > i > e > Z > e > i > t > v > e > Dri > eitrZDe > ntitiinevtr > eiDtrZinnDentiZi > ieDiviDvnrZDntrti > reeiZetrtvinZeZet > ntvDvnriZDedivrrZ > DnZtvenntrZrnteie > iviDvnrZvntrtiieD > > > And i made one my own, some months ago. It's german, too. > > http://www.abiteuer.de/temp/truegerischewahrheit.txt > > The big white letters spell out "Wahrheit", which means "thruth". It is > made out of the word "Luege" (sorry, the umlaut ue is not ascii char), > which means "lie". > > benjamin Here's one I made last week. BUILD BUILD BUIL BU BUI BUI BUILD BUIL BUI BUILDI BUI BUILD BUILDINGBU BUIL BUI BUILDING BUI BUILD BUILDINGBU BUIL BUI BUILDING BUI BUILDI BUILD BUILDINGBU BUIL BU BUI BUILDINGB BUI BUILDI BUILD BUILDINGBUILDINGB BUILDINGB BUI BUILDINGB BUILDINGB BUILDI BUILD BUILDINGBUILDINGB BUILDINGB BUILDINGBUILD BUILDINGB BUILDI BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDIN BUILDINGBU BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDING BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDING BUILDINGBU BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBU BUILDINGBU BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBU BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDIN BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDIN BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGB dp BU BUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDINGBUILDIN -- ##### david.666palmer@ntlworld.com #### _\_ ________ _________ _______________ ##~~<#)#) \______ \ / _ \ \ / / \______ \ #( _\ | | \ / /_\ \ Y /| || | \ # __| | ` Y | \ / | || ` \ \___/ /_______ |____|__ /\___/ |___/_______ / _.-'==='-._ \/ \/ \/ ' ' http://homepage.ntlworld.com/palmer666 Alright, DON'T have a nice day, see if I care! ###### From: Dave Bird Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Ascii art from 1865 Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 01:55:35 +0000 Organization: Smelling--nose Dogs for the Anosmic Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: xemu.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: xemu.demon.co.uk:158.152.196.209 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1012683906 nnrp-13:3522 NO-IDENT xemu.demon.co.uk:158.152.196.209 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.00 U Lines: 111 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!xemu.demon.co.uk!dave Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27532 In article, Sam Blanning writes: >Technically, that's not ASCII art. That's some form of poetry. I can't >remember what it's called, but someone else will surely know. There are many >other examples of poetry written in the form of a picture. Unfortunately I >can't remember any that I could put a title or a theme to. Making pictures with typography has many forms. Some put text into a shape that suits the subject. Some use only a single character as a pixel dot, or a small variety. Others incorporate letter shapes into fine detail. Micro-art, like llizard's stuff, is built from one character equals perhaps one third of a person so entirely bases on its shape. (.") ("_) \ | wot's 'e on about I dunno, e's been on the pills agen I fink In article, palmer666 writes: >Whilst flipping the pages of a very, very old copy of Alice in Wonderland >by Lewis Caroll (first published in 1865), I came upon a very example of >early of ascii art. I have tried to reproduce it below as accurately as I >can although it cannot be an exact copy because the printed version used >font size that decreased gradually down the page. Oh, I like this a lot; I thought at first you had devised it. > >======================================================== > >'It is a long tail, certainly said Alice, looking down >with wonder at the Mouse's tail; 'but why do you call it >sad?' And she kept on puzzling about it while the >Mouse was speaking, so that her idea of the tale was >something like this:- 'Fury said to a > mouse, That > he met in the > house, "Let > us both go > to law: I > will prosec- > cute you -- > Come, I'll > take no de- > nial: We > must have > the trial; > For really > this morn- > ing I've > nothing > to do." > Said the > mouse to > the cur, > "Such a > trial, dear > sir, With > no jury > or judge, > would > be wast- > ing our > breath." > "I'll be > judge, > I'll be > jury," > said > cun- > ning > old > Fury; > "I'll > try > the > whole > cause, > and > con- > demn > you to > death" >======================================================== > _____ | | / / / \ \ / -- -| Duck! | \__ ____ / \_____/ / \ / \ | Dave@xemu.demon.co.uk /| / You \ / | \ \ / |_\called?/__/ / | |_____________///////// < |____\_______| | |(______________ () \ | \ / () | () | | \\\\\\\\\ \| | __|__ | | _|___/___ \___ | | TWOING !!! __---- ----__\---\_ / __ | ______________________ \____-------------______/ \ / \ / / / / _/ ---| hmm, it theemth | / \ / / / | i thlighly | / $ / / | mithtook | / / / | your meaning there, | | | / | buthtah !!! | \______________// \______________________/ \________/