From: Andrus Orusalu Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: [Request] Diamond Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:37:54 +0200 Organization: EENet Lines: 2 Message-ID: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.40.69.194 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.eenet.ee 1009031452 76768 193.40.69.194 (22 Dec 2001 14:30:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.eenet.ee NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:30:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!news03.bloor.is!teleglobe.net!teleglobe.net!news.estpak.ee!news.infonet.ee!news.ut.ee!news.eenet.ee!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:25941 is it possible to draw a nice diamond in ascii? ###### Lines: 8 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: kamuiyoo@aol.com (KAMUI) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Date: 22 Dec 2001 14:40:59 GMT References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!208.184.7.66.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:25946 $(B!!!!!!!!!!!?(B][$(B!@(B $(B!!!!!!!!#0!?!!!@#0(B $(B!!!!!!#0!!!!!!!!!!#0(B $(B!!!!#0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#0(B $(B!!!!#0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#0(B $(B!!!!!!#0!!!!!!!!!!#0(B $(B!!!!!!!!#0(B[10ka]$(B#0(B ###### From: drsquare Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-1-128-190.btinternet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: helle.btinternet.com 1009062777 459 213.1.128.190 (22 Dec 2001 23:12:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@helle.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:12:57 +0000 (UTC) X-No-Archive: yes X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed.nextra.ch!news.nextra.ch!nextra.at!newsfeed4.cidera.com!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!btnet-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:26023 On 22 Dec 2001 14:40:59 GMT, in alt.ascii-art, (kamuiyoo@aol.com (KAMUI)) wrote: >??????][? >????????? >?????????? >??????????? >??????????? >?????????? >?????[10ka]? What is that? .. .. . ' ' .' .' ':''.':':'':':''.':''. : :'':':''.':''. : .'.' '..: : .' : .' : ''.'..: :..' : .' : : : '..' : : : : : .' .' .' .' ###### From: "Sean S. Raines" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:32:28 -0700 Organization: N/A Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> Reply-To: "Sean S. Raines" NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.d1.9a X-Server-Date: 23 Dec 2001 12:32:29 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:25998 I believe it's in Chinese, it works if you d/l the language pack from microsoftism... "drsquare" wrote in message news:c23a2usro8mgfdpum0fkdgrl45gmneodrb@4ax.com... | On 22 Dec 2001 14:40:59 GMT, in alt.ascii-art, | (kamuiyoo@aol.com (KAMUI)) wrote: | | >??????][? | >????????? | >?????????? | >??????????? | >??????????? | >?????????? | >?????[10ka]? | | What is that? | .. .. . | ' ' .' .' | ':''.':':'':':''.':''. : :'':':''.':''. | : .'.' '..: : .' : .' : ''.'..: :..' : .' | : : : '..' : | : : : : | .' .' .' .' ###### From: "LGB" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 07:04:27 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 38 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:25997 "drsquare" wrote in message news:c23a2usro8mgfdpum0fkdgrl45gmneodrb@4ax.com... > On 22 Dec 2001 14:40:59 GMT, in alt.ascii-art, > (kamuiyoo@aol.com (KAMUI)) wrote: > > >??????][? > >????????? > >?????????? > >??????????? > >??????????? > >?????????? > >?????[10ka]? > > What is that? This .']['. O.' '.O O O O O O O O O O[10ka]O Most of the time Kamui will post an address to view his/her work in a gif ( view the santas ). The font ( Japanese's ) does not display in most news readers that uses or set to strictly ASCII or browsers that do not have the character set installed. Also it is a reply to a post that did not make thru the server at least mine anyway. --lgbeard ###### From: Philip Newton Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:26:56 +0100 Organization: very little Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> Reply-To: "Philip 'Yes, that's my address' Newton" NNTP-Posting-Host: 243.141.hh1.ip.foni.net (212.7.141.243) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1009117370 19298061 212.7.141.243 (16 [11583]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!130.133.1.3!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!243.141.hh1.ip.foni.NET!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:26022 On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:12:57 +0000 (UTC), drsquare wrote: > What is that? Japanese character set. It's supposed to look something like this: /][\ O / \ O O O O O O O O O O[10ka]O Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. ###### From: mic@dataweb.nl (Mic) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: 23 Dec 2001 17:55:13 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.78.237.152 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1009158913 29440 127.0.0.1 (24 Dec 2001 01:55:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Dec 2001 01:55:13 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:26055 Andrus Orusalu wrote in message news:<3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee>... > is it possible to draw a nice diamond in ascii? Guess not... __________________ .-' \ _.-''-._ / '-. .-/\ .'. .'. /\-. _'/ \.' '. .' './ \'_ :======:======::======:======: '. '. \ '' / .' .' '. . \ : : / . .' '.' \ ' ' / '.' ': \: :/ :' '. \ / .' '.\ /.' miK '\/' Or is there romance in a fluffy, dotty diamond? Bye :) ###### From: mathwft@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Bill Taylor) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 02:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Department of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Canterbury, Christchurch, NewZealand Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> NNTP-Posting-Host: e220-0.math.canterbury.ac.nz X-Trace: cantuc.canterbury.ac.nz 1009162654 3388 132.181.20.4 (24 Dec 2001 02:57:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@canterbury.ac.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 02:57:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: xrn 8.02 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!newsfeed01.tsnz.net!canterbury.ac.nz!mathwft Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:26052 |> > is it possible to draw a nice diamond in ascii? A poor thing but my own... v \ / _________ ` / \ ' / \ / \ / \ _ / _ _ . _ _ \ _ \ / \ / \ / \ / ' \_________/ ` / \ ^ _ _| |___ ================================================= _| _| _|_ Bill Taylor W.Taylor@math.canterbury.ac.nz |___|_ | _|___ ================================================= |_| |_ _| Text tiles make very poor textiles. |___| | ================================================= W F C T |_| ###### From: drsquare Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-122-202-174.btinternet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: paris.btinternet.com 1009395573 2372 213.122.202.174 (26 Dec 2001 19:39:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@paris.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:39:33 +0000 (UTC) X-No-Archive: yes X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!btnet-peer!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:26206 On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:32:28 -0700, in alt.ascii-art, ("Sean S. Raines" ) wrote: >I believe it's in Chinese, it works if you d/l the language pack from >microsoftism... I won't be doing that. This is supposed to be ascii-art. >"drsquare" wrote in message >news:c23a2usro8mgfdpum0fkdgrl45gmneodrb@4ax.com... >| On 22 Dec 2001 14:40:59 GMT, in alt.ascii-art, >| (kamuiyoo@aol.com (KAMUI)) wrote: >| >| >??????][? >| >????????? >| >?????????? >| >??????????? >| >??????????? >| >?????????? >| >?????[10ka]? >| >| What is that? >| .. .. . >| ' ' .' .' >| ':''.':':'':':''.':''. : :'':':''.':''. >| : .'.' '..: : .' : .' : ''.'..: :..' : .' >| : : : '..' : >| : : : : >| .' .' .' .' > -- .. .. . ' ' .' .' ':''.':':'':':''.':''. : :'':':''.':''. : .'.' '..: : .' : .' : ''.'..: :..' : .' : : : '..' : : : : : .' .' .' .' ###### From: drsquare Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-122-202-174.btinternet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: paris.btinternet.com 1009395575 2372 213.122.202.174 (26 Dec 2001 19:39:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@paris.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:39:35 +0000 (UTC) X-No-Archive: yes X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!proxad.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!btnet-peer!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:26209 On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:26:56 +0100, in alt.ascii-art, (Philip Newton ) wrote: >On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:12:57 +0000 (UTC), drsquare > wrote: > >> What is that? > >Japanese character set. It's supposed to look something like this: > > /][\ > O / \ O > O O > O O > O O > O O > O[10ka]O > Japanese character set? I thought this group was called alt.ASCII-art -- .. .. . ' ' .' .' ':''.':':'':':''.':''. : :'':':''.':''. : .'.' '..: : .' : .' : ''.'..: :..' : .' : : : '..' : : : : : .' .' .' .' ###### From: =?ISO-8859-15?q?=22Beno=EEt= Rouits" Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:03:55 +0100 Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Message-ID: References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> User-Agent: Pan/0.10.0 (Unix) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: "drsquare" Lines: 17 Organization: Guest of ProXad - France NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jan 2002 22:00:09 MET NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.228.20.48 X-Trace: 1011128409 news1-2.free.fr 202 213.228.20.48 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-hub.siol.net!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!proxad.net!feeder2-1.proxad.net!news1-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27029 In the case if you forgot that ASCII is now 8 bits length, I remind you that Every Coutry has a Charset for ASCII And only the 127 first chars are American ! Now ASCII is 256 chars : the last 128 chars are coutry dependent. Hope this helps.. Dans l'article , "drsquare" a écrit : >> > Japanese character set? I thought this group was called alt.ASCII-art > -- http://brouits.free.fr/ ICQ #145294907 ###### Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond From: wheeler@cts.com (mike wheeler) Organization: yup X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: 16 Jan 2002 17:04:27 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3c45b29a$0$1616$e2e8da3@nntp.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.164.192.102 X-Trace: 1011200667 nntp.cts.com 1616 199.164.192.102 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!howland.erols.net!usc.edu!newspeer.cts.com!galanthis.cts.com!127.0.0.1.MISMATCH!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27030 My friends in Hong Kong use two bytes for every letter but only the first 96 of each one of them. I can't read them tho... :-( In article , brouits@free.fr says... > >In the case if you forgot that ASCII is now 8 bits length, >I remind you that Every Coutry has a Charset for ASCII >And only the 127 first chars are American ! >Now ASCII is 256 chars : the last 128 chars are coutry dependent. >Hope this helps.. >Dans l'article , "drsquare" > a écrit : > >>> >> Japanese character set? I thought this group was called alt.ASCII-art >> > > >-- >http://brouits.free.fr/ > >ICQ #145294907 ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Date: 16 Jan 2002 19:19:13 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 64 Message-ID: <6u6662ma5a.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 1011205154 621 10.0.3.2 (16 Jan 2002 18:19:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 2002 18:19:14 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27050 =?ISO-8859-15?q?=22Beno=EEt= Rouits" writes: > In the case if you forgot that ASCII is now 8 bits length, Nonsense. ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange) is 7 bits, as it is defined in ISO-646. > I remind you that Every Coutry has a Charset for ASCII Every script system[1] has an 8 bit set, as defined in ISO-8895. These are extended from ASCII, but are not part of ASCII themselves. [1] you in France use the same ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-15 (same as -1, but with Euro symbol added) that all other western european countries use. > And only the 127 first chars are American ! Actually they are alphabetical. Used also outside of the USA. > Now ASCII is 256 chars : the last 128 chars are coutry dependent. Script dependant. And not ASCII, and so not acceptable in ascii-art. Ascii.art is _defined_ as using the ASCII subset of all the other systems (ISO-8895 and a few others, like the ISO-2022-JP that KAMUI used, or Unicode, or ISO-10646), for exactly the reason, that ASCII will display everywhere. ISO-2022-JP does not display outside of Japanese systems, and so is definitely totally off-topic here. And KAMUI is a repeat offender at not accepting being critisized for this. > Hope this helps.. Not really, as it is wrong. > Dans l'article , "drsquare" > a écrit : > > >> > > Japanese character set? I thought this group was called alt.ASCII-art And BTW: on Usenet, one _follows_ the original posters stuff with ones additions. The original stuff is included to recall in the reader mind the thread one is extending. That should be done before adding new stuff, on planets wherte time runs past to futire.. So it should be read before, to fullfill its purpose. That requires it to be on top, at least with scripts that are read top to bottom. At least you did not quote the entire post. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer - Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery ###### From: ppunk@chello.balls.nl (Donderfliegen) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: [Request] Diamond Organization: Total Disorganisation Message-ID: <5skb4us3egap72s76rj3g3gqkhc5pbjh4g@4ax.com> References: <3C249AC1.F53C03F9@vmg.vil.ee> <20011222094059.05612.00001875@mb-fo.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.0.162 X-Original-Trace: 16 Jan 2002 20:27:00 +0100, 192.168.0.162 Lines: 21 X-Authenticated-User: donderfliegen Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:22:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.93.74.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@chello.nl X-Trace: nlnews00.chello.com 1011208927 213.93.74.225 (Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:22:07 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:22:07 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!amsnews01.chello.com!nlnews00.chello.com.POSTED!tanya. Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:27087 On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:03:55 +0100, =?ISO-8859-15?q?=22Beno=EEt= Rouits" provoked the following text: >In the case if you forgot that ASCII is now 8 bits length, >I remind you that Every Coutry has a Charset for ASCII >And only the 127 first chars are American ! >Now ASCII is 256 chars : the last 128 chars are coutry dependent. >Hope this helps.. You are SO wrong!!! ASCII stands for american Standard Code for Information Interchange. Note the "American" in that sentence. What you described were ISO-charsets. -- __ ___ / ) _/_ _(_ /'_ _ _ /(_/()/)(/(-/ / (/(-(/(-/) _/ Castrate me to reply by e-mail You cannot bathe two babies in the same tub at the same time. (Los Angeles, California city law)