From: "Sara Gardener" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Interesting question. Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:04:53 +0300 Organization: PACOnet ISP Lines: 11 Message-ID: <9mj0b3$75v$1@snark.paco.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dpt-184.paco.odessa.ua X-Trace: snark.paco.net 999097508 7359 195.114.131.184 (29 Aug 2001 15:05:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@paco.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:05:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news-feeds.jump.net!dfw-peer.news.verio.net!iad-feed.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!carrier.kiev.ua!news.ukr.net!news.tsystems.kiev.ua!news.adamant.net!info.elvisti.kiev.ua!glukr!news.paco.odessa.ua!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:20820 How you imagine GUI in ascii? For example, try to draw alarm clock from http://www.brigsoft.com ;-) -- Sara G. ###### From: "lastfuture (Peter Marquardt)" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Interesting question. Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:16:19 +0200 Organization: T-Online Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <9mj0b3$75v$1@snark.paco.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.t-online.com 999173717 03 1742 J1OxSODT2ASLG 010830 12:15:17 X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-Sender: 520084321266-0001@t-dialin.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!opentransit.net!proxad.net!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:20836 On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:04:53 +0300, "Sara Gardener" wrote: >How you imagine GUI in ascii? > >For example, try to draw alarm clock from http://www.brigsoft.com ;-) with so many complex and tiny elements it would be hella difficult to make an ascii gui if you can't change the on-screen font size... if you can it would be managable IMO -- \/ ,-------------------------. (oO) | we will infect you too! | vv __/`-------------------------' JL ###### From: mikechat.remove@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Interesting question. Date: 30 Aug 2001 15:02:55 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 54 Message-ID: <3b8e54b3.2297642@news.concentric.net> References: <9mj0b3$75v$1@snark.paco.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.220.177.92 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.frii.net!newspeer.cwnet.com!sjc1.nntp.concentric.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!global-news-master Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:20835 On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:16:19 +0200, "lastfuture (Peter Marquardt)" wrote: >On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:04:53 +0300, "Sara Gardener" > wrote: > >>How you imagine GUI in ascii? >> >>For example, try to draw alarm clock from http://www.brigsoft.com ;-) > >with so many complex and tiny elements it would be hella difficult to >make an ascii gui if you can't change the on-screen font size... if >you can it would be managable IMO too true, this for example is the rough outline of the GUI mentioned, the GUI in THIS case left no room for the actual data due to the font restriction ,,--''''`--._ ,-' `._ _______________________________ ,' . 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'. || | [_____] || | _,-' || | [_____] || | ,,- || | || \ ' / | | || ` / | | || '\ ,' +------------------+ || '-._ ,,' (_) (_) _____ || .`--....,--' __ __ [_____] || | () (*) () |__| |__| [_____] || | [] || | ____________________________ || | (*) /| |\ || | || || || | () \+--------------------------+/ |; `------------------------------------------------' by the time (no pun intended) you were able to input data the thing would be quite a few times (no pun intended) this size. *shrug* -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________| ###### From: "Andrew Carpenter" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Interesting question. Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:02:20 +0100 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <9mo8tv$isp$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <9mj0b3$75v$1@snark.paco.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-105.red-naped-sapsucker.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news5.svr.pol.co.uk 999270143 19353 62.137.208.105 (31 Aug 2001 15:02:23 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Aug 2001 15:02:23 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:20833 You used to be able to get Visual Basic for DOS, and could apparently draw ASCII character based windows and suchlike. Andrew > "Sara Gardener" wrote > in message news:9mj0b3$75v$1@snark.paco.net... > > How you imagine GUI in ascii? ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Interesting question. Date: 31 Aug 2001 21:34:02 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 38 Message-ID: <6uk7zkt45x.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <9mj0b3$75v$1@snark.paco.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 999286442 431 10.0.3.2 (31 Aug 2001 19:34:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Aug 2001 19:34:02 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:20846 "Sara Gardener" writes: > How you imagine GUI in ascii? No need to imagine it. Such UIs existed and were used on productive computer systems only 10 years ago[1]. I have actually written such programs professionally. Damn that I do not have a screenshot from one. So I will have to make an simple "artists representation" of what they sort of looked like: File Edit Database Search Help .-----------------.------.--------------------------------------. | |email | | | Name: [As|news | ] | | Family: [Ar`------' ] | | Age: [50 ] Sex: [n/a ] | | Address: [somewhere on the net_ ] | | [ ] | | | | | | | | | `---------------------------------------------------------------' -%%- 150 records loaded Ovr [1] Is the past already so far away that todays kids do not know these any more? Now I _do_ feel old. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer - Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery ###### From: "Daniel Llewellyn" Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Interesting question. Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:03:37 +0100 Lines: 10 Message-ID: <9mp1ea$h12$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <9mj0b3$75v$1@snark.paco.net> <6uk7zkt45x.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-1218.babbelas.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 999295242 17442 62.25.149.194 (31 Aug 2001 22:00:42 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Aug 2001 22:00:42 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newspeer.highwayone.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:20851 > [1] Is the past already so far away that todays kids do not know > these any more? Now I _do_ feel old. it's not THAT far away - I'm 18 and I remember the days of the Amstrads and Toshiba laptops :-p jeez, my first computer was a 1512 :-) and I made those GUIs myself - out of batch files, 'cos I was still young and didn't know alot back then - oh how things have changed - I still don't know anything tho.... ###### From: Philip Newton Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: Interesting question. Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 08:27:06 +0200 Organization: very little Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <9mj0b3$75v$1@snark.paco.net> <6uk7zkt45x.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> Reply-To: "Philip 'Yes, that's my address' Newton" NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin73.pg6.hamburg.nikoma.de (213.54.5.73) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 999325189 3842838 213.54.5.73 (16 [11583]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin73.pg6.hamburg.nikoma.DE!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.ascii-art:20863 On 31 Aug 2001 21:34:02 +0200, Neil Franklin wrote: > "Sara Gardener" writes: > > > How you imagine GUI in ascii? > > No need to imagine it. Such UIs existed and were used on productive > computer systems only 10 years ago[1]. I have actually written such > programs professionally. I suppose one could quibble that they weren't graphical in the sense that they allowed bitmaps, but there were certainly many WIMP interfaces around (well, maybe only WMP -- window, menu, pointing device/mouse; no icons). Quite a few of them, on DOS at least, based on Borland's Turbo Vision library; one could often tell from the interface if they had been programmed with TV :). Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.